[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[abalam]

DRK is now on Europex : https://www.europex.eu/#coin/btc/drk
Only 0.18% exchange fee
Only 0.00002 BTC fee for instant BTC withdraw

[blajde]

What about "Brights" for the lowest DRK denomination?

I like the idea of playing against the dark theme.

Just my 2 Brights.

Evans?

I don't think "duffs" can be beat.

I totally agree, The Simpsons are a classic.  Would you believe I remember when they first started out on the Tracy Ullman show?  LOL  It pays homage to that and of course Mr. Duffield

With a lawsuit it can...

a failed lawsuit is not something people tend to go for

[eduffield]

As i understood the cost to run a masternode will be 1000 DRK .

1000 DRK is way too high, i understand you ambition but it would eventually prevent a healthy amount of masternodes.

I would host masternodes worth 2000 DRK, i even have the option to provide different IP geo locations, if one masternode costs 1000 DRK to run i can only host two with my budget. NSA can host thousands!!!!

Please consider that there indeed should be a monetary hurdle but it should be considered really, really carefully. Because probably the advantages outweight the disadvantages from lowering the monetary hurdle.

I really want to urge you to double think about that! 150 - 500 DRK should be much enough to host a masternode!

Best Regards,

If we have the limit at 250DRK, the person with 1000DRK will just have four "tickets" instead of 1. So the outcome is the same really, with the same security too.

The only difference between 250DRK and 1000DRK is that we'll end up with lower end master nodes. I think we need only people that really understand security, ddos protection and how to run a service with 99.9999% uptime. These nodes are going to be the life blood of the whole network, so those things are highly valuable.

[eltito]

If we have the limit at 250DRK, the person with 1000DRK will just have four "tickets" instead of 1. So the outcome is the same really, with the same security too.

The only difference between 250DRK and 1000DRK is that we'll end up with lower end master nodes. I think we need only people that really understand security, ddos protection and how to run a service with 99.9999% uptime. These nodes are going to be the life blood of the whole network, so those things are highly valuable.

I agree in principle, I'm just not sure I understand how a higher cost of entry ensures those things.

[chaeplin]

current block number is 44976
Hard fork : 24 blocks , 1 hour left

[eduffield]

If we have the limit at 250DRK, the person with 1000DRK will just have four "tickets" instead of 1. So the outcome is the same really, with the same security too.

The only difference between 250DRK and 1000DRK is that we'll end up with lower end master nodes. I think we need only people that really understand security, ddos protection and how to run a service with 99.9999% uptime. These nodes are going to be the life blood of the whole network, so those things are highly valuable.

I agree in principle, I'm just not sure I understand how a higher cost of entry ensures those things.

A higher cost of investment and a lot of money as risk will ensure the person at least understands what he's doing.

Later on I envision we'll have master node pools where you can buy shares and receive a percentage of the payout. This will offer smaller investors the same investment, with someone else managing the node that can protect it.

[Kai Proctor]

A similar service for Darkcoin would be cool https://bips.me (DarkSend compatible)

[AlexGR]

As i understood the cost to run a masternode will be 1000 DRK .

1000 DRK is way too high, i understand you ambition but it would eventually prevent a healthy amount of masternodes.

I would host masternodes worth 2000 DRK, i even have the option to provide different IP geo locations, if one masternode costs 1000 DRK to run i can only host two with my budget. NSA can host thousands!!!!

Please consider that there indeed should be a monetary hurdle but it should be considered really, really carefully. Because probably the advantages outweight the disadvantages from lowering the monetary hurdle.

I really want to urge you to double think about that! 150 - 500 DRK should be much enough to host a masternode!

Best Regards,

If we have the limit at 250DRK, the person with 1000DRK will just have four "tickets" instead of 1. So the outcome is the same really, with the same security too.

The only difference between 250DRK and 1000DRK is that we'll end up with lower end master nodes. I think we need only people that really understand security, ddos protection and how to run a service with 99.9999% uptime. These nodes are going to be the life blood of the whole network, so those things are highly valuable.

I think (?) there is one more difference: Network resilience. If there are 400 master nodes vs 100 nodes, the network is more resilient from a DDOS scenario where nodes are taken out. It is conceivable that if there is a way to see the addresses of other nodes, then a hacker could launch a DDOS attack towards them in order to increase his chances that his master node can perform the last transaction and gain the mining reward. If he manages to block 50 out of 100 master nodes, then he's doubling his mining output from darksends. And if hackers start competing between themselves on who DDOSes better the other nodes, very few will remain standing.

[salmion]

How about a blink for the lowest value..

[chaeplin]

2014-04-03 18:17:01 received block 000000000045c3612c21637ac992def1debf5230fac58a69d87023c45759a4dd
2014-04-03 18:17:02 Committing 39 changed transactions to coin database...
2014-04-03 18:17:02 SetBestChain: new best=000000000045c3612c21637ac992def1debf5230fac58a69d87023c45759a4dd  height=45000  log2_work=54.933667  tx=184909  date=2014-04-03 18:15:18 progress=0.999994
2014-04-03 18:17:02 ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED
2014-04-03 18:17:02 ThreadRPCServer method=getblockcount
2014-04-03 18:17:02 ThreadRPCServer method=getblockhash
2014-04-03 18:17:02 ThreadRPCServer method=getblock

[chaeplin]

current block number is 45000
Hard fork : 0 blocks , 0 min left


current block number is 45001
Hard fork : -1 blocks , -2.5 min left

!!

[eduffield]

current block number is 45000
Hard fork : 0 blocks , 0 min left


current block number is 45001
Hard fork : -1 blocks , -2.5 min left

!!

Awesome, now 32bit wallets should be able to sync (After I update the exe again)

[CHAOSiTEC]

current block number is 45000
Hard fork : 0 blocks , 0 min left


current block number is 45001
Hard fork : -1 blocks , -2.5 min left

!!

one question..

http://drk.poolhash.org/graph.html

what does ts diff mean, and could you explain the numbers in that column

[CHAOSiTEC]

Stats

Number of bets:	24339
Real house edge:	+1.89523%
Total wagered:	1540.38477346 DRK
Wins:	15463
Losses:	8876
Win/Loss Ratio:	1.742

http://dark-dice.com

[chaeplin]

current block number is 45000
Hard fork : 0 blocks , 0 min left


current block number is 45001
Hard fork : -1 blocks , -2.5 min left

!!

one question..

http://drk.poolhash.org/graph.html

what does ts diff mean, and could you explain the numbers in that column

Oh that's timestamp diffrence,
ts diff = block received time(server time) - block timestamp(hardcoded in block) [sec]

[mahowi]

Beta version (v0.10.0.0-unk-beta) doesn't sync after hard fork. Last block is 44999.  

[blajde]

If we have the limit at 250DRK, the person with 1000DRK will just have four "tickets" instead of 1. So the outcome is the same really, with the same security too.

The only difference between 250DRK and 1000DRK is that we'll end up with lower end master nodes. I think we need only people that really understand security, ddos protection and how to run a service with 99.9999% uptime. These nodes are going to be the life blood of the whole network, so those things are highly valuable.

I agree in principle, I'm just not sure I understand how a higher cost of entry ensures those things.

A higher cost of investment and a lot of money as risk will ensure the person at least understands what he's doing.

Later on I envision we'll have master node pools where you can buy shares and receive a percentage of the payout. This will offer smaller investors the same investment, with someone else managing the node that can protect it.

I have more than 1k DRK I don't have time or interest to learn the technical stuff. I would just like to earn interest of supporting the coin as an early adopter, and I would like to do it safely.

I really don't think it would be the best solution to force the master nodes people to have to get techincal ( correct me if I missunderstood ).

Should there then be 3d parties involved offering security for your node with fee ( but that wouldn't work because of trust issues ).

Thoughts?

[CHAOSiTEC]

current block number is 45000
Hard fork : 0 blocks , 0 min left


current block number is 45001
Hard fork : -1 blocks , -2.5 min left

!!

one question..

http://drk.poolhash.org/graph.html

what does ts diff mean, and could you explain the numbers in that column

Oh that's timestamp diffrence,
ts diff = block received time(server time) - block timestamp(hardcoded in block) [sec]

so lower is better - and -5 is very fast or clock runs wrong?

[chaeplin]

current block number is 45000
Hard fork : 0 blocks , 0 min left


current block number is 45001
Hard fork : -1 blocks , -2.5 min left

!!

one question..

http://drk.poolhash.org/graph.html

what does ts diff mean, and could you explain the numbers in that column

Oh that's timestamp diffrence,
ts diff = block received time(server time) - block timestamp(hardcoded in block) [sec]

so lower is better - and -5 is very fast or clock runs wrong?

I think it's miner clock is wrong, not pool.
I don't know really, which one set the timestamp of a block.

[chaeplin]

current block number is 45000
Hard fork : 0 blocks , 0 min left


current block number is 45001
Hard fork : -1 blocks , -2.5 min left

!!

Awesome, now 32bit wallets should be able to sync (After I update the exe again)

now recompile 32bit linux.