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Hello, Community, I almost do not post in this thread but have been following DRK since late January. I am an adult, an investor and have so far invested around 30K USD into DRK. I love the product and if it is to be succesfull it will be based on its merits of offering value to its users, being Darksend and anonymity the most attractive feature and I hope there are more added in the future.
I am investing in the integrity of the DEV team, in the added value proposition of Darksend and in future additions like messaging, etc. The value of the coin is not in giving it away to miners as they see fit, the value is in offering benefits that bitcoin does not already offer to the intended end users, people like me, who don't mine. This is in my opinion the only altcoin that is offering something BTC does not to regular users. Other coins like Vert offer something to miners but it does nothing for me as an end user that BTC doesnt already do. So please DEV team, forget about complaining teenagers, show some respect for the people backing up this project and lets focus on adding features and benefits.
Finally, I will like to set up several master nodes, I lack the technical capability and time to do it myself but will be hiring somebody to do it for me. In that sense I would really appreciate a comprehensive guide on how to set up the master nodes, I think that would be a way better use of the time of the more technically inclined in this forum. Thanks
+1 000 000 ! Yes! Whole heartedly agree + my $20,000 invested into DRK. I am in the same boat as the above poster, this airdrop stuff is hard to watch. Focus is the key to success, without it we will dwindle into the ether of existence. Focus on what makes this project worth your time Evan, it will only produce results that compliment the effort. You two guys can definitely afford to buy my mother-in-law. Now only 19,500 DRK. With some night school, she can cook and run a few master nodes. I have some DRK too but I`m not interested in your mother-in-law.... this one who I have is very very enough  |
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Hey all, I'm having problems downloading the windows wallet from the home page. Is the server working as it should? --2014-04-07 20:48:11-- http://darkcoin.io/downloads/darkcoin-qt.exe
Resolving darkcoin.io... 162.252.83.44
Connecting to darkcoin.io|162.252.83.44|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 20791808 (20M) [application/x-msdos-program]
Saving to: `darkcoin-qt.exe'
37% [====================> ] 7,739,128 --.-K/s in 15m 13s
2014-04-07 21:03:25 (8.28 KB/s) - Read error at byte 7739128/20791808 (Connection timed out). Retrying.
--2014-04-07 21:03:26-- (try: 2) http://darkcoin.io/downloads/darkcoin-qt.exe
Connecting to darkcoin.io|162.252.83.44|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 206 Partial Content
Length: 20791808 (20M), 13052680 (12M) remaining [application/x-msdos-program]
darkcoin-qt.exe: Permission denied
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April 07, 2014, 07:17:47 PM |
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They could airdrop an equal share to everyone who has posted on this board from today's date, backward. Clearly anyone who has posted in this thread has been interested in mining Dark.
That would be fair and would help stop Darkcoin from being vulnerable to a new X11 coin launch from a dedicated dev team that includes ALL of the features of Darkcoin AND also has a fairer launch without the 10% instamine. You guys keep trashing cryptohunter but coins are a little like running for political office and if we all want Darkcoin to go mainstream, then it needs to be able to survive a political attack ad. Cryptohunter is giving the taste of what that ad would look like. People don't want to join a coin if they think that there is a massively unfair distribution and once a smart dev releases a true Darkcoin copy with newer features and also a fair launch, Darkcoin may end up shrinking in distribution as people leave to that future coin. (No 500 coin block rewards every couple of seconds and then change the block reward and time per block from seconds to 2.5 minutes only AFTER the instaminer has collected around 1.7 million coins.)
I also think that a fear that airdropping coins to much of the current Darkcoin loyalists here would kill the coin is just noise. Realistically, if the Airdrop did happen and the price did drop back to .0008 or so I would quickly drop a few thousand in at those prices because without the 10% Instamine PR problem, DRK at that price would be a steal. Further, any coins I would get would be added to my small stash and saved for a much later date (2015, 2016) and if the devs did a distribution of all the coins that were mined until the 500 block reward was changed, I think block 4500; That would clear the way for Darkcoin to never be attacked ever again as an unfair instamined coin that launched in the middle of the night with no windows wallet and 500 block rewards every couple seconds where the Dev and his launch buds claimed in the first 48 hours, almost half the coins that will be mined in the first whole year of mining. In fact, the reputation of the Darkcoin creators would reach lore status and the story of how the Devs of Darkcoin refunded the "bugged" coins to its loyal miners would be talked about in news stories and repeated as Darkcoin grows.
If there was a bug that allowed some to unfairly enrich themselves, then once that bug was fixed, shouldn't those who were unfairly enriched because of said bug also return those coins? Especially if most of those coins are being held by the creators and they have the means to easily return those "bugged" coins to the current miners who are doing the work to keep this coin alive in partnership with the dev.
This PR problem and the risk of a good and fair Darkcoin clone coming out is very real and will only get bigger as time goes on unless it is rectified.
The correct thing to do would have been to abort the launch and try again unless the point was to get a bunch of coins out in a day or two - this will always remain an issue, don't see a good way to fix it. That being said, I've bought a bit of drk as a curiosity but do know some people that simply passed on this coin because of the day 1 stuff. |
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eduffield (OP)
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April 07, 2014, 07:29:13 PM |
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They could airdrop an equal share to everyone who has posted on this board from today's date, backward. Clearly anyone who has posted in this thread has been interested in mining Dark.
That would be fair and would help stop Darkcoin from being vulnerable to a new X11 coin launch from a dedicated dev team that includes ALL of the features of Darkcoin AND also has a fairer launch without the 10% instamine. You guys keep trashing cryptohunter but coins are a little like running for political office and if we all want Darkcoin to go mainstream, then it needs to be able to survive a political attack ad. Cryptohunter is giving the taste of what that ad would look like. People don't want to join a coin if they think that there is a massively unfair distribution and once a smart dev releases a true Darkcoin copy with newer features and also a fair launch, Darkcoin may end up shrinking in distribution as people leave to that future coin. (No 500 coin block rewards every couple of seconds and then change the block reward and time per block from seconds to 2.5 minutes only AFTER the instaminer has collected around 1.7 million coins.)
I also think that a fear that airdropping coins to much of the current Darkcoin loyalists here would kill the coin is just noise. Realistically, if the Airdrop did happen and the price did drop back to .0008 or so I would quickly drop a few thousand in at those prices because without the 10% Instamine PR problem, DRK at that price would be a steal. Further, any coins I would get would be added to my small stash and saved for a much later date (2015, 2016) and if the devs did a distribution of all the coins that were mined until the 500 block reward was changed, I think block 4500; That would clear the way for Darkcoin to never be attacked ever again as an unfair instamined coin that launched in the middle of the night with no windows wallet and 500 block rewards every couple seconds where the Dev and his launch buds claimed in the first 48 hours, almost half the coins that will be mined in the first whole year of mining. In fact, the reputation of the Darkcoin creators would reach lore status and the story of how the Devs of Darkcoin refunded the "bugged" coins to its loyal miners would be talked about in news stories and repeated as Darkcoin grows.
If there was a bug that allowed some to unfairly enrich themselves, then once that bug was fixed, shouldn't those who were unfairly enriched because of said bug also return those coins? Especially if most of those coins are being held by the creators and they have the means to easily return those "bugged" coins to the current miners who are doing the work to keep this coin alive in partnership with the dev.
This PR problem and the risk of a good and fair Darkcoin clone coming out is very real and will only get bigger as time goes on unless it is rectified.
So your solution to a "premine" is to "premine" more coins. Let me theorize what posts would look like after this: "I wasn't part of that premine so it wasn't fair to me, I also wasn't part of the newest premine so now it's doubly unfair." Hello, Community, I almost do not post in this thread but have been following DRK since late January. I am an adult, an investor and have so far invested around 30K USD into DRK. I love the product and if it is to be succesfull it will be based on its merits of offering value to its users, being Darksend and anonymity the most attractive feature and I hope there are more added in the future. I am investing in the integrity of the DEV team, in the added value proposition of Darksend and in future additions like messaging, etc. The value of the coin is not in giving it away to miners as they see fit, the value is in offering benefits that bitcoin does not already offer to the intended end users, people like me, who don't mine. This is in my opinion the only altcoin that is offering something BTC does not to regular users. Other coins like Vert offer something to miners but it does nothing for me as an end user that BTC doesnt already do. So please DEV team, forget about complaining teenagers, show some respect for the people backing up this project and lets focus on adding features and benefits. Finally, I will like to set up several master nodes, I lack the technical capability and time to do it myself but will be hiring somebody to do it for me. In that sense I would really appreciate a comprehensive guide on how to set up the master nodes, I think that would be a way better use of the time of the more technically inclined in this forum. Thanks Thanks for this. Here's the official statement about the future of darkcoin and some more information about Masternodes. https://www.darkcointalk.org/threads/darkcoin-update-masternode-requirements-masternode-payments.225/ |
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April 07, 2014, 07:43:06 PM |
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Get a machine with a static ip Why can't I use a dynamic DNS service? anycoin.conf usually understands domain names, like connect=www.drkpool.com |
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April 07, 2014, 07:50:49 PM |
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Hey all, I'm having problems downloading the windows wallet from the home page. Is the server working as it should?
wget http://darkcoin.io/downloads/darkcoin-qt.exe
--2014-04-08 04:46:39-- http://darkcoin.io/downloads/darkcoin-qt.exe
Resolving darkcoin.io (darkcoin.io)... 162.252.83.44
Connecting to darkcoin.io (darkcoin.io)|162.252.83.44|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 20791808 (20M) [application/x-msdos-program]
Saving to: `darkcoin-qt.exe'
100%[==================================================================================================================================================================>] 20,791,808 1.73M/s in 20s
2014-04-08 04:47:00 (1013 KB/s) - `darkcoin-qt.exe' saved [20791808/20791808]
Working. I think you have connection problem. Try this. http://drk.poolhash.org/files/darkcoin-qt.exe(do not run. just test your connection) |
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April 07, 2014, 07:53:10 PM |
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Hello, Community, I almost do not post in this thread but have been following DRK since late January. I am an adult, an investor and have so far invested around 30K USD into DRK. I love the product and if it is to be succesfull it will be based on its merits of offering value to its users, being Darksend and anonymity the most attractive feature and I hope there are more added in the future.
I am investing in the integrity of the DEV team, in the added value proposition of Darksend and in future additions like messaging, etc. The value of the coin is not in giving it away to miners as they see fit, the value is in offering benefits that bitcoin does not already offer to the intended end users, people like me, who don't mine. This is in my opinion the only altcoin that is offering something BTC does not to regular users. Other coins like Vert offer something to miners but it does nothing for me as an end user that BTC doesnt already do. So please DEV team, forget about complaining teenagers, show some respect for the people backing up this project and lets focus on adding features and benefits.
Finally, I will like to set up several master nodes, I lack the technical capability and time to do it myself but will be hiring somebody to do it for me. In that sense I would really appreciate a comprehensive guide on how to set up the master nodes, I think that would be a way better use of the time of the more technically inclined in this forum. Thanks
+1 Totally agree Do not let teenagers/trolls/freeloaders to rob us - investors (I and few colleagues represent a large investment part too). 99% of the current holders haven't been anywhere near the first days, so all these people are trying to do is to rob us. If someone can't understand what/how happened after it's been explained 100 times, deserves to be ignored. Current distribution and inflation model is perfect - as others pointed out: No early bag holders to dump
No early bag holders to manipulate the price
No daily millions of coins requiring insane amount of BTC to keep the price
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eduffield (OP)
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April 07, 2014, 07:59:03 PM |
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Get a machine with a static ip Why can't I use a dynamic DNS service? anycoin.conf usually understands domain names, like connect=www.drkpool.com I'll enable that at some point. |
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April 07, 2014, 08:00:02 PM |
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Sounds great, I'll be setting up a master node or two. I've run my own webservers for over 5 years so should be able to mange this. In one of the steps you say to send over exactly 1000 DRK. Does this have to be sent in one go? I'd feel better sending over 0.1 DRK to test, then sent over 999.9 after. Would that be okay? Also, do we have to use the ISOs? Or is this just recommended? Cheers! Very excited for this. |
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April 07, 2014, 08:04:27 PM |
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Sounds great, I'll be setting up a master node or two. I've run my own webservers for over 5 years so should be able to mange this. In one of the steps you say to send over exactly 1000 DRK. Does this have to be sent in one go? I'd feel better sending over 0.1 DRK to test, then sent over 999.9 after. Would that be okay? Also, do we have to use the ISOs? Or is this just recommended? Cheers! Very excited for this. You have to send 1000DRK at once. It needs in one single input for technical reasons. ISO? You mean the AMI? That's for people that want something quick, definitely not required |
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April 07, 2014, 08:07:05 PM |
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Sounds great, I'll be setting up a master node or two. I've run my own webservers for over 5 years so should be able to mange this. In one of the steps you say to send over exactly 1000 DRK. Does this have to be sent in one go? I'd feel better sending over 0.1 DRK to test, then sent over 999.9 after. Would that be okay? Also, do we have to use the ISOs? Or is this just recommended? Cheers! Very excited for this. You have to send 1000DRK at once. It needs in one single input for technical reasons. ISO? You mean the AMI? That's for people that want something quick, definitely not required Ah okay. Many thanks, sounds good! I'll have to check 5 times to make sure it's working before I send over the 1000 DRK lol. |
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April 07, 2014, 08:13:05 PM |
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Ah okay. Many thanks, sounds good! I'll have to check 5 times to make sure it's working before I send over the 1000 DRK lol.
It is almost 100% probable you will be able to spend the coins, but you will never be completely sure before you actually spend them. So, how does sending in 0.1 and spending 0.1 make it more probable that you will be able to spend 1000?  |
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April 07, 2014, 08:13:46 PM |
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Can you get that 1000 DRK back out of the demon or are they lost once send?
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April 07, 2014, 08:25:12 PM |
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+1 Totally agree
Do not let teenagers/trolls/freeloaders to rob us - investors (I and few colleagues represent a large investment part too).
99% of the current holders haven't been anywhere near the first days, so all these people are trying to do is to rob us.
If someone can't understand what/how happened after it's been explained 100 times, deserves to be ignored.
Current distribution and inflation model is perfect - as others pointed out:
No early bag holders to dump
No early bag holders to manipulate the price
No daily millions of coins requiring insane amount of BTC to keep the price
Serious investors and miners involved.
What does I and a few colleagues mean? Is there some investment group thing going on? |
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April 07, 2014, 08:30:18 PM |
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Can you get that 1000 DRK back out of the demon or are they lost once send?
The money is still good, it's just locked while you're a masternode. To send it back out of the daemon you would need to disable the "masternode=1" in the config and restart. |
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April 07, 2014, 08:35:23 PM |
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Hello, Community, I almost do not post in this thread but have been following DRK since late January. I am an adult, an investor and have so far invested around 30K USD into DRK. I love the product and if it is to be succesfull it will be based on its merits of offering value to its users, being Darksend and anonymity the most attractive feature and I hope there are more added in the future.
I am investing in the integrity of the DEV team, in the added value proposition of Darksend and in future additions like messaging, etc. The value of the coin is not in giving it away to miners as they see fit, the value is in offering benefits that bitcoin does not already offer to the intended end users, people like me, who don't mine. This is in my opinion the only altcoin that is offering something BTC does not to regular users. Other coins like Vert offer something to miners but it does nothing for me as an end user that BTC doesnt already do. So please DEV team, forget about complaining teenagers, show some respect for the people backing up this project and lets focus on adding features and benefits.
Finally, I will like to set up several master nodes, I lack the technical capability and time to do it myself but will be hiring somebody to do it for me. In that sense I would really appreciate a comprehensive guide on how to set up the master nodes, I think that would be a way better use of the time of the more technically inclined in this forum. Thanks
+1 Totally agree Do not let teenagers/trolls/freeloaders to rob us - investors (I and few colleagues represent a large investment part too). 99% of the current holders haven't been anywhere near the first days, so all these people are trying to do is to rob us. If someone can't understand what/how happened after it's been explained 100 times, deserves to be ignored. Current distribution and inflation model is perfect - as others pointed out: No early bag holders to dump
No early bag holders to manipulate the price
No daily millions of coins requiring insane amount of BTC to keep the price
Serious investors and miners involved.I completely agree with you, everything core after this will be completely locked down (Name, Moneysupply, etc). We're done with that initial phase now, moving on to innovating and trying to build our brand. |
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April 07, 2014, 08:36:53 PM |
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As the designer of #8, I still think #6 is by far the best. #2 just seems a bit too busy and probably won't scale well, but it seems like some people like it more than #6 because of its color scheme. The color scheme can be changed very easily, so I think we should bet too hung up on a design because it's "darkness" or lack therof. I think that's something that can be settled after a design is chosen. Just an example of what could be done for those who think #6 is too dark (using #2's color scheme):  This is a pretty good compromise, and I love that it's coming from the designer of #8. What a selfless move to say he still likes #6 best, and fixing it. The blue makes this so much more trustworthy and appealing for the financial sector(imo). |
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April 07, 2014, 08:55:03 PM |
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What does I and a few colleagues mean?
Is there some investment group thing going on?
Not an investment group per say, it's just various people (friends/family/colleagues to be exact) who I talked to about cryptocurrencies, and as a result they invested large amounts of fiat into it (most in Darkcoins) over the last month. It is very reassuring to hear from Evan that the core parameters are not going to change. |
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April 07, 2014, 08:55:44 PM |
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Get a machine with a static ip Why can't I use a dynamic DNS service? anycoin.conf usually understands domain names, like connect=www.drkpool.com I'll enable that at some point. I don't know if that is a good idea or not. Isn't the idea of a master node is that they are on a server AND network expecting a fair amount of traffic? No server has a dynamic IP address, so by enabling it the only additional uses would be on a home computer on residential internet, which is not good for both the user (your ISP may not like it and shut you off/make you upgrade to business class internet, which would have a static IP, making this a moot point) as well as the network as a whole (my primary server has a 1 gigabit connection and great peering with everybody. my home internet has a 30 megabit connection with .75 megabit upload and shit peering.) |
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