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[Jesse Livermore]

So I was trying to figure out my 'line in the sand' for a support level that, if broken, I would have to finally take my long-term DRK profits. And I realized the long-term DRK chart looked very very familiar...
I introduce you to a fractal. Bitcoin has gone through many of these already. They're one of the coolest (because they can be ridiculously accurate) and sometimes scariest (because they can stop being accurate and all hell can break loose) phenomenons that occurs naturally in the environment and in stocks/bonds/currencies/etc.

Essentially, the April to August price and volume action has copied the April 21-May 3 timeframe. Personally, in my all my years of working in investments I've seen many price fractals but never seen price with volume fractals.
And coincidentally enough, other chart methods I use (unrelated to the fractal) tell me to make my line in the sand at the high (.00555) from that April 21-May 3 timeframe. Hopefully this fractal continues to bear fruit and we're really in that May 3-4 region and DRK takes off here soon in a huge way again with volume.
We'll see..

JL

The 30 day support level was .0074 BTC

30 days?! That's arbitrary. What's your point?

[raleit2014]

dump right now 20k of dark no need for shit promises about anonymity...if you cannot deliver the product you intend to serve to people dont say much words...

ok... that is great news... everyone listen up 20k of dark coming down the pipe and about  to be dumped ... get your btc's ready... and im. throwing my fiat to btc right now.... let us know when sir.

If everyone was buying cheap DRK's like they say then the price wouldn't keep going down.  Most of those people saying "More cheap Darks" are not buying and they know it.  You might be scooping up some cheap coins but you're not going to lift this market alone.  

The problem right now is that most of the people hyping DRK the most are already 100% invested in DRK and have no btc to buy more.  

People are not buying DRK right now because they are waiting until most sells and buys establish a foundation or equilibrium.
Another way of saying is that buyers are waiting to see how far the price drops.
Your observation makes some sort of sense but not as an investor thinks

[bigrcanada]

Can someone please post the  current Masternode stats... how many?  Or is there a link  where ee can view  this.  thanks

[Ignition75]

You need to learn some shit retard... XC has full TRUSTLESS ANNON they actually beat you to it... CLOAK has FULL annon but it isnt trustless... YET..block escrow is added in to PoSA this week.. Get ur fucking head out of ur ass an at least recognize the competition out there has either caught up or surpassed your coin... This is why DRK looks like KOOL-AID drinkers to the rest of the world cause you even deny FACTS... dont believe it download a wallet from either.. send a transaction... link it back to sender..

Ladies and Gents, I introduce you to Shojayxt's partner in crime, Pookielax.  The two of them used to work exchange chat boxes discrediting DRK with every breath they had.

Where is your other partner in crime, LingLing or FingFing?  I forget their name...

You know what?  I've been trying to be nice and then you come along waving your DRK pom poms trying to make excuses for everything going wrong.  

You are nothing more than a blatant liar and you know it.  I never worked the exchange trollboxes.  I have made comments that didn't put DRK in the best light but for you to come here and say that I was working in concert with others to discredit DRK is nothing but a bunch of ignorant bullshit and you know it.  

You know what?  My comments have likely saved people money while your ignorant cheerleading hype has probably caused people to make a bad investment.  

Darkcoins problems have nothing to do with me or anything I may have posted here or in some trollbox somewhere.  Darkcoins problems come from ignorant people like you hyping the coin to unobtainable expectations and updates that have been either failures or extremely problematic.  You and your clown posse are the reason for darkcoins price decline.  You hyped and hyped for months.  Well people have had enough of you and your kind.  They don't believe you or any of the hype you're pushing anymore.  YOU and your ignorance are the reason that Darkcoin has fallen out of favor.  If people like you would have kept your mouths shut and attacked anyone and everyone that wasn't drinking your koolaid maybe things would be different.  What you've done is alienate a large percentage of the altcoin community with your aggressive attacks.  Now nobody cares about you and your coin.  There will be no sympathy forthcoming from the altcoin community.  In fact I imagine there are many people quietly smirking in the background.  Karma's a bitch isn't it.

I do not know if shojay is a troll. he is speak truth about ingintion75, I see him spread fud and lies on many other coin. He work hard to kill other coin and make darkcoin strong. sometime it reurn to you. so in future you should not do these things ok?

please forgive my broken english.

OMG you respond to my posts?  I've had you on ignore for a few months... You're just spewing rubbish now Shojayxt... What aggressive attacks lol?

You and Pookielax, every time someone even mentioned the work Darkcoin on the Polo Trollbox you were all over them spreading fud trying to steer their investment into XC and Monero...

You're just a paid sock puppet and you need to get a life... Did you tell Omaha to quote you so I would read your dribble??? Fckn lol  

[MasterMined710]

In all seriousness, AFAIK the only other provably anon, trustless coins are bytecoin clones and those have bloat issues. Is there actual proof of anything else?  Or are we just talking about trusted mixers and vaporware?

And cryptonote coins are true P2P.  No masternode network required.  But they have been taking a hit as well.  I don't think that anonymity is as big of a deal to the majority of people as it is to the diehard DRK'rs.  It was just the latest fad.  Mainstream commercial adoption where the money is doesn't care about anonymity.  DRK may very well be the best anonymous coin one day but it will still only occupy a small niche market.

Also, progress is being made on the bloat issue and one cryptonote coin is already doing some pruning of the blockchain.

if you did not spend all of your time trolling drk and kept up with your cryptonote investments you would know that the pruning efforts are negligible and the bloat can't be fixed as AnonyMint has pointed out. they are now just saying that the bloat won't be a problem in the future because of moore's law but that's just wishful thinking and not a solution.
in the future masternodes can help y'all with your bloating issues though, for a small fee of course

[shojayxt]

In all seriousness, AFAIK the only other provably anon, trustless coins are bytecoin clones and those have bloat issues. Is there actual proof of anything else?  Or are we just talking about trusted mixers and vaporware?

And cryptonote coins are true P2P.  No masternode network required.  But they have been taking a hit as well.  I don't think that anonymity is as big of a deal to the majority of people as it is to the diehard DRK'rs.  It was just the latest fad.  Mainstream commercial adoption where the money is doesn't care about anonymity.  DRK may very well be the best anonymous coin one day but it will still only occupy a small niche market.

Also, progress is being made on the bloat issue and one cryptonote coin is already doing some pruning of the blockchain.

Shojayxt, I'm so terribly dissapointed you've turned into a pumper. C'mon u know drk works. Cryptonotes are now doa. They don't have Btc compatibility.

How am I pumping?  I haven't mentioned any specific coin by name.  I stated some facts.  And for the record, I have sold my cryptonote coin holdings like I did with DRK because there is too much misinformation and hype.  All altcoins are pump and dumps anymore.  It doesn't mater if it's Darkcoin, or a cryptonote coin.

[raleit2014]

So I was trying to figure out my 'line in the sand' for a support level that, if broken, I would have to finally take my long-term DRK profits. And I realized the long-term DRK chart looked very very familiar...
I introduce you to a fractal. Bitcoin has gone through many of these already. They're one of the coolest (because they can be ridiculously accurate) and sometimes scariest (because they can stop being accurate and all hell can break loose) phenomenons that occurs naturally in the environment and in stocks/bonds/currencies/etc.

Essentially, the April to August price and volume action has copied the April 21-May 3 timeframe. Personally, in my all my years of working in investments I've seen many price fractals but never seen price with volume fractals.
And coincidentally enough, other chart methods I use (unrelated to the fractal) tell me to make my line in the sand at the high (.00555) from that April 21-May 3 timeframe. Hopefully this fractal continues to bear fruit and we're really in that May 3-4 region and DRK takes off here soon in a huge way again with volume.
We'll see..

JL

The 30 day support level was .0074 BTC

30 days?! That's arbitrary. What's your point?

He was asking about support level. I'm not sure what time period he was asking for...he wanted to know when to take profits.
support is not arbitrary though

[Ozziecoin]

dump right now 20k of dark no need for shit promises about anonymity...if you cannot deliver the product you intend to serve to people dont say much words...

ok... that is great news... everyone listen up 20k of dark coming down the pipe and about  to be dumped ... get your btc's ready... and im. throwing my fiat to btc right now.... let us know when sir.

If everyone was buying cheap DRK's like they say then the price wouldn't keep going down.  Most of those people saying "More cheap Darks" are not buying and they know it.  You might be scooping up some cheap coins but you're not going to lift this market alone.  

The problem right now is that most of the people hyping DRK the most are already 100% invested in DRK and have no btc to buy more.  

Ok, ok. So it's a bloodbath. Suggest you liquidate monero now because u know that's a dead coin. All cryptonotes are dead now that the Drk anonymising function works.

[Ozziecoin]

How am I pumping?  I haven't mentioned any specific coin by name.  I stated some facts.  And for the record, I have sold my cryptonote coin holdings like I did with DRK because there is too much misinformation and hype.  All altcoins are pump and dumps anymore.  It doesn't mater if it's Darkcoin, or a cryptonote coin.

Smart move offloading cryptonotes. But pump or not, the Drk anonymising function works. Let's also agree on that.

[shojayxt]

Am I doing something wrong?
Win7 x64, unlocked wallet, client 0.10.12.29, total balance 313.62... , darksend enabled, coins to be anonymized 13, round 1

.. and I'm getting this at the end of the debug:

2014-08-15 15:49:13 DoAutomaticDenominating : No funds detected in need of denominating (2)
2014-08-15 15:49:16 AcceptToMemoryPool: 199.175.55.159:9999 /Satoshi:0.10.12.27/ : accepted 5e32c57c9a786ac0257749433131b3bbbc10c2c9f70719f75e01cd9c86950601 (poolsz 1)
2014-08-15 15:49:25 CDarkSendPool::CheckTimeout() : REMOVING EXPIRED QUEUE ENTRY - 0

darkSend => Idle and nothing happen..

2014-08-15 16:01:23 DoAutomaticDenominating : No funds detected in need of denominating (2)
2014-08-15 16:01:25 CDarkSendPool::CheckTimeout() : REMOVING EXPIRED QUEUE ENTRY - 0
2014-08-15 16:01:51 AcceptToMemoryPool: 94.23.158.91:9999 /Satoshi:0.10.12.29/ : accepted 79f72fe66097664671b5205a27426886d97bf0338a16c83b1fea6071371709ab (poolsz

Same thing from my debug log

2014-08-15 16:34:02 DoAutomaticDenominating : No funds detected in need of denominating (2)

I restarted darkcoin wallet and it deducted another .001 but nothing is anonymized.

It's been almost 24 hours and all I have to show for it is -.002 deducted from my wallet.  Not one coin is anonymized.  

[Ozziecoin]

Am I doing something wrong?
Win7 x64, unlocked wallet, client 0.10.12.29, total balance 313.62... , darksend enabled, coins to be anonymized 13, round 1

.. and I'm getting this at the end of the debug:

2014-08-15 15:49:13 DoAutomaticDenominating : No funds detected in need of denominating (2)
2014-08-15 15:49:16 AcceptToMemoryPool: 199.175.55.159:9999 /Satoshi:0.10.12.27/ : accepted 5e32c57c9a786ac0257749433131b3bbbc10c2c9f70719f75e01cd9c86950601 (poolsz 1)
2014-08-15 15:49:25 CDarkSendPool::CheckTimeout() : REMOVING EXPIRED QUEUE ENTRY - 0

darkSend => Idle and nothing happen..

2014-08-15 16:01:23 DoAutomaticDenominating : No funds detected in need of denominating (2)
2014-08-15 16:01:25 CDarkSendPool::CheckTimeout() : REMOVING EXPIRED QUEUE ENTRY - 0
2014-08-15 16:01:51 AcceptToMemoryPool: 94.23.158.91:9999 /Satoshi:0.10.12.29/ : accepted 79f72fe66097664671b5205a27426886d97bf0338a16c83b1fea6071371709ab (poolsz

Same thing from my debug log

2014-08-15 16:34:02 DoAutomaticDenominating : No funds detected in need of denominating (2)

I restarted darkcoin wallet and it deducted another .001 but nothing is anonymized.

It's been almost 24 hours and all I have to show for it is -.002 deducted from my wallet.  Not one coin is anonymized.  

Check coin control inputs.

[shojayxt]

You need to learn some shit retard... XC has full TRUSTLESS ANNON they actually beat you to it... CLOAK has FULL annon but it isnt trustless... YET..block escrow is added in to PoSA this week.. Get ur fucking head out of ur ass an at least recognize the competition out there has either caught up or surpassed your coin... This is why DRK looks like KOOL-AID drinkers to the rest of the world cause you even deny FACTS... dont believe it download a wallet from either.. send a transaction... link it back to sender..

Ladies and Gents, I introduce you to Shojayxt's partner in crime, Pookielax.  The two of them used to work exchange chat boxes discrediting DRK with every breath they had.

Where is your other partner in crime, LingLing or FingFing?  I forget their name...

You know what?  I've been trying to be nice and then you come along waving your DRK pom poms trying to make excuses for everything going wrong.  

You are nothing more than a blatant liar and you know it.  I never worked the exchange trollboxes.  I have made comments that didn't put DRK in the best light but for you to come here and say that I was working in concert with others to discredit DRK is nothing but a bunch of ignorant bullshit and you know it.  

You know what?  My comments have likely saved people money while your ignorant cheerleading hype has probably caused people to make a bad investment.  

Darkcoins problems have nothing to do with me or anything I may have posted here or in some trollbox somewhere.  Darkcoins problems come from ignorant people like you hyping the coin to unobtainable expectations and updates that have been either failures or extremely problematic.  You and your clown posse are the reason for darkcoins price decline.  You hyped and hyped for months.  Well people have had enough of you and your kind.  They don't believe you or any of the hype you're pushing anymore.  YOU and your ignorance are the reason that Darkcoin has fallen out of favor.  If people like you would have kept your mouths shut and attacked anyone and everyone that wasn't drinking your koolaid maybe things would be different.  What you've done is alienate a large percentage of the altcoin community with your aggressive attacks.  Now nobody cares about you and your coin.  There will be no sympathy forthcoming from the altcoin community.  In fact I imagine there are many people quietly smirking in the background.  Karma's a bitch isn't it.

I do not know if shojay is a troll. he is speak truth about ingintion75, I see him spread fud and lies on many other coin. He work hard to kill other coin and make darkcoin strong. sometime it reurn to you. so in future you should not do these things ok?

please forgive my broken english.

OMG you respond to my posts?  I've had you on ignore for a few months... You're just spewing rubbish now Shojayxt... What aggressive attacks lol?

You and Pookielax, every time someone even mentioned the work Darkcoin on the Polo Trollbox you were all over them spreading fud trying to steer their investment into XC and Monero...

You're just a paid sock puppet and you need to get a life... Did you tell Omaha to quote you so I would read your dribble??? Fckn lol  

Good grief

All I can do is laugh at you.  It's obvious that you're mentally challenged.  

[shojayxt]

dump right now 20k of dark no need for shit promises about anonymity...if you cannot deliver the product you intend to serve to people dont say much words...

ok... that is great news... everyone listen up 20k of dark coming down the pipe and about  to be dumped ... get your btc's ready... and im. throwing my fiat to btc right now.... let us know when sir.

If everyone was buying cheap DRK's like they say then the price wouldn't keep going down.  Most of those people saying "More cheap Darks" are not buying and they know it.  You might be scooping up some cheap coins but you're not going to lift this market alone.  

The problem right now is that most of the people hyping DRK the most are already 100% invested in DRK and have no btc to buy more.  

Ok, ok. So it's a bloodbath. Suggest you liquidate monero now because u know that's a dead coin. All cryptonotes are dead now that the Drk anonymising function works.

It works? 

My wallet has been open for almost 24 hours and nothing is anonymized.  But .002 has been deducted.  How is that working?

[Dusty11]

I can buy more at $2 each, thats 0.004 btc, not far away now 

[Ignition75]

And for the record, I have sold my cryptonote coin holdings like I did with DRK because there is too much misinformation and hype.

There is not any misinformation or hype, the problem is, you're listening to the voices in your head and it's confusing you...

[Ozziecoin]

dump right now 20k of dark no need for shit promises about anonymity...if you cannot deliver the product you intend to serve to people dont say much words...

ok... that is great news... everyone listen up 20k of dark coming down the pipe and about  to be dumped ... get your btc's ready... and im. throwing my fiat to btc right now.... let us know when sir.

If everyone was buying cheap DRK's like they say then the price wouldn't keep going down.  Most of those people saying "More cheap Darks" are not buying and they know it.  You might be scooping up some cheap coins but you're not going to lift this market alone.  

The problem right now is that most of the people hyping DRK the most are already 100% invested in DRK and have no btc to buy more.  

Ok, ok. So it's a bloodbath. Suggest you liquidate monero now because u know that's a dead coin. All cryptonotes are dead now that the Drk anonymising function works.

It works?  

My wallet has been open for almost 24 hours and nothing is anonymized.  But .002 has been deducted.  How is that working?

Check coin control inputs. Tick list mode. You should see 1 round.

Edit: there is a small bug with wallet not registering subsequent rounds, so it tries to keep denominating.

[innergy]

Check coin control inputs. Tick list mode. You should see 1 round.

Edit: there is a small bug with wallet not registering subsequent rounds, so it tries to keep denominating.

Checked.. it says "Darksend Rounds -2" for inputs!?

[qwizzie]

dump right now 20k of dark no need for shit promises about anonymity...if you cannot deliver the product you intend to serve to people dont say much words...

ok... that is great news... everyone listen up 20k of dark coming down the pipe and about  to be dumped ... get your btc's ready... and im. throwing my fiat to btc right now.... let us know when sir.

If everyone was buying cheap DRK's like they say then the price wouldn't keep going down.  Most of those people saying "More cheap Darks" are not buying and they know it.  You might be scooping up some cheap coins but you're not going to lift this market alone.  

The problem right now is that most of the people hyping DRK the most are already 100% invested in DRK and have no btc to buy more.  

Ok, ok. So it's a bloodbath. Suggest you liquidate monero now because u know that's a dead coin. All cryptonotes are dead now that the Drk anonymising function works.

It works?  

My wallet has been open for almost 24 hours and nothing is anonymized.  But .002 has been deducted.  How is that working?

Check coin control inputs. Tick list mode. You should see 1 round.

Edit: there is a small bug with wallet not registering subsequent rounds, so it tries to keep denominating.

yep, best to set rounds to 1 untill this has been fixed.

[qwizzie]

Check coin control inputs. Tick list mode. You should see 1 round.

Edit: there is a small bug with wallet not registering subsequent rounds, so it tries to keep denominating.

Checked.. it says "Darksend Rounds -2" for inputs!?

everything below 1.1 DRK gets -2 in the rounds and also everything gets -2 when it hasnt started denominating yet.

[shojayxt]

dump right now 20k of dark no need for shit promises about anonymity...if you cannot deliver the product you intend to serve to people dont say much words...

ok... that is great news... everyone listen up 20k of dark coming down the pipe and about  to be dumped ... get your btc's ready... and im. throwing my fiat to btc right now.... let us know when sir.

If everyone was buying cheap DRK's like they say then the price wouldn't keep going down.  Most of those people saying "More cheap Darks" are not buying and they know it.  You might be scooping up some cheap coins but you're not going to lift this market alone.  

The problem right now is that most of the people hyping DRK the most are already 100% invested in DRK and have no btc to buy more.  

Ok, ok. So it's a bloodbath. Suggest you liquidate monero now because u know that's a dead coin. All cryptonotes are dead now that the Drk anonymising function works.

I dumped the last of my XMR awhile ago.  Saying that cryptonote coins are dead is incorrect.  The current coins will likely fade away but the technology is suffering growing pains.  There will be a next generation of cryptonote coins that will have many of the early issues resolved.    


The same way you guys always use the "Darkcoin is breaking new ground with new technology" argument, the same can be said for cryptonote coins where the technology is merely a couple months old.  You're smart enough to know that.

Not to get into a long debate but have you read the cryptonote white paper? https://cryptonote.org/whitepaper.pdf

If not I think you'll find it rather interesting.