[ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency

[MadGhost]

see,


i told you guys to make a faucet a month ago and looks what happens


DRK down 60%++

it is not the faucet thing that drops the drk, that is how the market works with ups and downs.

[qwizzie]

I really don't get it why is drk crashing so hard?? Huh

rc4 seems a success, yes it is till closed source but it seems to work.

People went crazy when rc3 was released and now we have a real working anon solution what cant even be compared to rc3 and instead of gaining some value its falling more and more. I really dont get it .. bitshares still doing good did I invest in the wrong anoncoin..? I must say I am/was really convinced about drk so I took a large amount of my btc in the last weeks to buy drk but I'm questioning myself now if it was a big mistake. And still when I think about it, it should be gaining value, all of the improvements that have been made lately and all the things you can do with these masternodes. Its a brand new concept that seems to work with probably endless possibilities and yet price is only falling ??

Can someone enlighten me ? I really don't get it. Or is everybody in the dark on this one ....?

Thanks

TROLL DETECTED LOLOLOLOL

This is ridiculous if your serious.

Holding more than 2000drk you cant say on every question people are asking that they are trolling look at my post history you can see I am NOT a troll. Just a concerned drk holder who is trying to understand the current situation. Making me mad to be honest to be accused of trolling this quick.

+101

I think we need to be careful. We have had so many trolls that we might be in danger of overreacting to every question, view or genuine attempt to identify problems.

(did i get that right? getting very slowly pissed. Sun, sea, and much sauciness don't make it easy to post)

i found it rather funny seeing a troll (McHammer) shout troll to another user .. ofc for the other user not knowing that person is a troll and already ignored by many thats rather insulting... dont worry bamsterdam, only the troll thinks yr a troll

[McHammer]

no , it was irony
once i felt like him
and a user with bra in the beginning called me troll all the time
RAMPAGE
edit* it was bigrcanada

[UdjinM6]

Ok, even "amount...." eq 200 seems to be working too. At least it starts to denominate some.  

[HinnomTX]

Ok... please... everyone send me test DRK's to this address... mvZud4QZT6roVqYLSfWzwjR9YRm5ip98Cf
'll send myself my entire balance, thus de-anonymizing it. Please send lots! The more the merrier!
When I have a shitload of them, I'll run the test again!!!

I'd like to denominate 1 million test DRKs, 8 rounds !!

43k tDRK sent.
7a1bac63279428c15065bcc02c79a2ceede1923c53882c4276e4768c7a3dfde5

[GhostPlayer]

@GhostPlayer @Mangled Blue

Could do test with "Amount of Darkcoin to keep anoymized : 100" with above 10K ?


amount : 100, keep splitting,
https://i.imgur.com/fBa1w43.png


after changing amount 100 to 1000, instant denom happen.
https://i.imgur.com/zC7A75w.png


I think this behavior already reported http://jira.darkcoin.qa/browse/DRK-28

post address, I will send

Code:

darktest@sv1:~> darkcoind getinfo
{
    "version" : 91231,
    "protocolversion" : 70035,
    "walletversion" : 60000,
    "balance" : 229337.93232363,
    "blocks" : 16200,
    "timeoffset" : 0,
    "connections" : 14,
    "proxy" : "",
    "difficulty" : 0.26152176,
    "testnet" : true,
    "keypoololdest" : 1405792853,
    "keypoolsize" : 969,
    "paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
    "mininput" : 0.00001000,
    "errors" : ""
}

Chaeplin... trying to understand you... I have  A LOT OF TEST darks on the way. My plan is to create a new wallet and send ALL the funds to that new wallet address.

Then setup up 8x rounds with over the total balance, an test the time and calculate total fees.

Do you propose something different ?

[raleit2014]

Yes. But the coin is dying and there is a tiny window to save it by creating a Btc mixing service to get new Btc into the coin. Do it while the marketcap is large enough to handle decent volume.

While I agree a BTC mixing service would bring tons of volume and market acceptance to darkcoin, I don't understand how you would get anonymous bitcoin out the other side. Exchanges do not provide sufficient anonymity when exchanging DRK for BTC. How would that work?

And what's the point anyway? As soon as you spend those BTC they're traceable straight back to you unless you jump through a lot of hoops. Why not just use DRK, that's what it's for.

You guys don't have enough purchasing power to stabilise coin value. Fresh money is needed.

your whole premise Ozzie is market manipulation. of course they don't have enough resources to stabilize DRK. that statement only discredits what you say.

[qwizzie]

@GhostPlayer @Mangled Blue

Could do test with "Amount of Darkcoin to keep anoymized : 100" with above 10K ?


amount : 100, keep splitting,
https://i.imgur.com/fBa1w43.png


after changing amount 100 to 1000, instant denom happen.
https://i.imgur.com/zC7A75w.png


I think this behavior already reported http://jira.darkcoin.qa/browse/DRK-28

post address, I will send

Code:

darktest@sv1:~> darkcoind getinfo
{
    "version" : 91231,
    "protocolversion" : 70035,
    "walletversion" : 60000,
    "balance" : 229337.93232363,
    "blocks" : 16200,
    "timeoffset" : 0,
    "connections" : 14,
    "proxy" : "",
    "difficulty" : 0.26152176,
    "testnet" : true,
    "keypoololdest" : 1405792853,
    "keypoolsize" : 969,
    "paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
    "mininput" : 0.00001000,
    "errors" : ""
}

Chaeplin... trying to understand you... I have  A LOT OF TEST darks on the way. My plan id to create a new wallet and send ALL the funds to that new wallet address.

Then setup up 8x rounds with over the total balance, an test the time and calculate total fees.

Do you propose something different ?

i think he wants you two to test the boundries of the ''amount of darkcoin to keep anonymized'' .. from 100 (which appearently gives problems starting Darksend denominate) to higher (trying to find the boundry where it doesnt give problems starting Darksend denominate with large wallets). At least thats how i read it.

[chaeplin]

Ok, even "amount...." eq 200 seems to be working too. At least it starts to denominate some.  

Splitting subset has 900 + 180 + fee(?)

With large walllet, "amount...." less than 180 seems to be not working correctly.
 

Code:

2014-08-17 17:03:18 SelectCoins() best subset: 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 0.125 0.0135 0.0125 0.0125 0.0125 0.0125 total 11880.1885

2014-08-17 17:03:18 SelectCoins() best subset: 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 0.125 0.0135 0.013 0.0125 0.0125 0.0125 0.0125 0.0125 total 11880.214

2014-08-17 17:44:53 SelectCoins() best subset: 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 0.125 0.0205 0.0125 0.0125 0.0125 0.0125 0.0125 total 11880.208

2014-08-17 17:44:53 SelectCoins() best subset: 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 0.125 0.0205 0.0125 0.0125 0.0125 0.0125 0.0125 total 11880.208

2014-08-17 18:05:20 SelectCoins() best subset: 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 0.125 0.0145 0.0125 0.0125 0.0125 0.0125 0.0125 total 11880.202

[GhostPlayer]

GO GhostPlayer - put a fucking end to all the shit posted here, and prove the OBVIOUS to the people with an IQ of 80+ :


                             DS+ WORKS !!!

What? do you not see my posts here?

Also testing the issue?

Really?

D+ definitely works!! People dont fully understand it , thats all...  I just hope the price says this low for a while    Definitely shorting some BTC in favour of DRK right now!

Will keep you posted...

[AlexGR]

Perhaps I am still misstating the math or misunderstanding the spread-sheet.
Let's say I have 1 different coin sources. 60/600 compromised nodes I choose 2 hops and make 1 transaction. Then according to the spreadsheet, that one transaction has 1% chance of being compromised.
Now lets say I have 100 different coin sources, one for each of 100 transactions. 60/600 compromized nodes at a 2-hop rate. Now each transaction itself has a 1% chance of compromise. thus in total, 63% that at least one of them is compromized.
An example: let's say I have 100 dice with each having 100 sides. So each dice has 1/100 chance of rolling a "7". Now if I roll all 100, then there is 63% chance that at least one out of the 100 gets a "7", regardless of the fact that they are different dice. It's just acumulating the independent probabilities of the unrelated events

What is being traced? You have 1% chance of traced back to the one address. But that original address has no context. The coins for that address has itself been mixed.

My original question was why are there different numbers of masternodes being chosen, in other words, 1, 2, etc.. rounds of mixing. the purpose of this question was I was wondering the speed of transaction involved. The answer was that "The  several rounds are just to eliminate the possibility of a large number of masternodes  colluding with each other to deanon transactions." and a spreadsheet was given with the probability of de-anoning happening. So as I understand it, the spreadsheet is telling you the chance of a de-anon'd transaction. Is this incorrect? My main point here is why do I have to do many hops if it takes a long time? If I only have to do 1 hops, why is there an option for 2 hops? why not just always do 1 hops?

It's not the speed of transaction you are concerned about, but the speed of the pre-mixing. Up to RC3, transaction and mixing was in the same stage. Therefore if mixing was delayed, the transaction was delayed.

In RC4 you premix the coins at some point of time and this process might take minutes or hours - it depends on the number of other people who are also mixing. Essentially you are readying the coins for when you want to make transactions.

Now... When you transact, the transaction speed is like Litecoin (2.5m confirmation block), whether you transact non-anonymized funds, or anonymized funds.

Regarding the rounds of mixing / hops.

In a 60 sockpuppet nodes / 600 total nodes scenario, this is how I see it:

one round of mixing means you have 10% risk of deanonymization.
two rounds means 10% x 10% = 1%
three rounds mean 0.1%
four means 0.01%
five means 0.001%
six means 0.0001%
seven means 0.00001%
eight means 0.000001%

So if you do 5000 transactions after 8 round mixing, the possibility that just one of these transactions might be deanonymized by the holder of the 60 nodes is 0.000001% x 5000 = 0.005%

If you are more paranoid about your security, you can probably do 8 rounds x 8 rounds of mixing for a total of 16 rounds

[reflexmk]

GO GhostPlayer - put a fucking end to all the shit posted here, and prove the OBVIOUS to the people with an IQ of 80+ :


                             DS+ WORKS !!!

What? do you not see my posts here?

Also testing the issue?

Really?

I'm seeing your posts, but a 100k or 1m coins and 8 rounds test will be the final STFU I need to see. Keep up the good work btw.

[shojayxt]

Joe Public doesn't give a damn about drk or anon.  Regarding utility,  Joe Public knows you can spend btc at overclock Dell expedia and likely soon eBay.

Joe Public doesn't give a shit about Bitcoin either.

No one is expecting DRK to be a replacement for bitcoin.  

What you fail to let others know is the view from people from within the Bitcoin Foundation: Those who need and have possibly started using Bitcoin are being targeted and killed. Their spending is traceable. That is not my overly dramatic view, that comes from the Bitcoin foundation.

Now.

Russia is creating legislation to ban Bitcoin. There are many who do not like Russian politics. But there are many Russians who are decent and they will become criminals for using Bitcoin and they will be hunted down through the blockchain.

So you are attempting to contribute to killing a project, whether you are paid to do so or not, that gives people an alternative. You are directly supporting people who would exploit and murder, and you are supporting Putin who wants to create a police state that imprisons those who wish to have financial freedom.

You claim to be a real advocate for Bitcoin. You are in actual fact Putin's little puppet, his man bitch. Bend over and take a few more.

Wow!  You clowns are really out there.  How do you paranoid loonies even fall asleep at night?  Do you look under your bed?  Check the closet?  Peek out the curtains every five minutes?

When you say nobody is expecting DRK to replace bitcoin it makes me think that you suffer from alzheimers.  You've been on this thread long enough.  All you have to do is go back in this thread and you'll find plenty of fanboys talking about drk replacing bitcoin.  Do you actually believe the lies you tell?  Or do you just tell lies to further your agenda?

I have bought merchandise from overstock.com, should I now start worrying about being tracked down and eliminated by these individuals that are targeting people spending bitcoin?

So you're saying that I am an accessory to murder now?  I'm a putin supporter too?  You sir have completely lost your mind.

What project am I killing?  DRK is going down all by itself and nutcases like you that are vocal proponents are doing more harm than good.

The part that is really over the top is saying that I am putins sock puppet.  I'm a proud native citizen of the United States of America. Always have and always will be.  

Your gay fantasies about bending over are pretty telling as to what goes on in your sick mind.  You need to seek some mental help like several of your drk buddies.

I won't lower myself to your level and retaliate with sick derogatory remarks towards you like you have towards me.  I understand that you're suffering from severe mental anguish right now because everything you believe in "Darkcoin" is collapsing before your eyes.

Have a nice day.  

[shojayxt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiRvmh_tNoc

Hahaha! This made my day. Must have written some FUD again to deserve this video [can't see his posts since he has been in ignore with half a dozen others]

Bro the best feature ever... IGNORE!  lol  so much less noise.   im in the process of creating an Official DarkCoin TROLL/FUDDSTER list that will warn new people of these maggots..

I bump it forward every few pages to let one know.

Please submit your list of TROLLS/FUDDSTERS. Please though dont submit people that you have personal issues with.   I want this list to have integrity and not a list of people that you have issues with.

Please start listing away... ill post one this evening.  it will not be editable other then by me so we dont have these clowns screwing around.  thanks

Ignore Ignore Ignore Ignore!

You can't handle the truth

[McHammer]

You can't handle the truth

thats why u ignore and still hold dark
i cant handle it neither
still holding
fuck me
we are all loosers
(k lets say most of us)

[illodin]

I won't lower myself

Too late. You have already proven to be racist and a homophobic bigot.

[shojayxt]

Request going out for darkcoin community members to forward a list of TROLLS &  FUDDSTERS.  

please include any information you may have on the individual.

I want start making this JPG/Gif format list later this afternoon.

Thanks.

Ha ha ha!

Darkcoin Scapegoat list!

shojayxt makes comments that are critical of Darkcoin and single handedly crashes price and wipes out millions in market cap.

Make a list with all information about these individuals.  Make a list!  Make a list!  

Send out the soldiers and round them up!  Track them down!  Go after their families, friends, pets, etc...

Get busy with that list!  

Do you people not see what your doing to Darkcoin all by yourselves with your pathetic nonsense?

What a joke.

An ignore list to pass out to the community.  Maybe you can embed it in the Darkcoin blockchain and make it viewable with the block explorer.  How about an app so that you can always find out who to ignore with a simple swipe on your cell phone.

I remember you telling me that you guys are professional investors.  If I pump a coin and make a list like you will I be a professional investor as well?



P.S

Please put me at the top of your list in big bold letters.

Thanks in advance.

[bigrcanada]

Hey - SoJax's it.

How are you on this fine day?


What was that???
Oh - sorry - you've been on the ignore list for AGE's


Have a nice day sojaxit :-P

yup... ignore is a thing of beauty.  so much more peaceful.   

[shojayxt]

Request going out for darkcoin community members to forward a list of TROLLS &  FUDDSTERS.  

please include any information you may have on the individual.

I want start making this JPG/Gif format list later this afternoon.

Thanks.

this won't help..
trolls are trolling, the problem is uncertainty about rc4.
people are afraid that there are bugs, things have to get sort out wether there are some or not.
evan should take some time on that i think, i know he likes coding more but it lacks a bit of his response to the "issues"
posting screenshots of working rounds is useless imo, especially on test net. we are on mainnet already, the average user doesn't care about test net.

Finally some words of reason.  Be careful though.  You might end up on the list.

[chaeplin]

Ok, even "amount...." eq 200 seems to be working too. At least it starts to denominate some.  

Splitting subset has 900 + 180 + fee(?)

With large walllet, "amount...." less than 180 seems to be not working correctly.
 

Code:

2014-08-17 17:03:18 SelectCoins() best subset: 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 0.125 0.0135 0.0125 0.0125 0.0125 0.0125 total 11880.1885

2014-08-17 17:03:18 SelectCoins() best subset: 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 0.125 0.0135 0.013 0.0125 0.0125 0.0125 0.0125 0.0125 total 11880.214

2014-08-17 17:44:53 SelectCoins() best subset: 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 0.125 0.0205 0.0125 0.0125 0.0125 0.0125 0.0125 total 11880.208

2014-08-17 17:44:53 SelectCoins() best subset: 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 0.125 0.0205 0.0125 0.0125 0.0125 0.0125 0.0125 total 11880.208

2014-08-17 18:05:20 SelectCoins() best subset: 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 900.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 180.00 0.125 0.0145 0.0125 0.0125 0.0125 0.0125 0.0125 total 11880.202

With debug log, I think "amount...."  should have minimum value or another splitting statge to avoid constant splitting

Code:

2014-08-15 00:58:22  auto-- split amount 20000000
2014-08-15 04:41:30  auto-- split amount 5000000
2014-08-15 13:45:02  auto-- split amount 19759997
2014-08-15 21:42:56  auto-- split amount 19679997
2014-08-15 22:34:55  auto-- split amount 20000000
2014-08-15 23:10:58  auto-- split amount 2500000
2014-08-16 00:45:22  auto-- split amount 20000000
2014-08-16 01:32:35  auto-- split amount 20000000
2014-08-16 04:29:17  auto-- split amount 20000000
2014-08-16 06:10:19  auto-- split amount 2500000
2014-08-17 19:06:39  auto-- split amount 90000000000  --> 900 (12k)
2014-08-17 19:34:58  auto-- split amount 20000000000  --> 200 (1K)