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Author Topic: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency  (Read 9722548 times)
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August 20, 2014, 01:59:32 PM
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Funnel 10% of MN fees to Save the Children, OXFAM, whatever. I'll sign up now. Let's see the media tackle that.

"Darkcoin! OMG isn't that illegal?"
"No, actually we raise shitloads of money for starving children."

Great idea!

Also Dark Net sounds awesome and explains itself.

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Funnel 10% of MN fees to Save the Children, OXFAM, whatever. I'll sign up now. Let's see the media tackle that.

"Darkcoin! OMG isn't that illegal?"
"No, actually we raise shitloads of money for starving children."

They'll exploit the ambiguity (DRK raises shitloads of money to starve children - ewwww).

Seriously, no matter what one does somebody won't like it (or will pretend not to, for agenda purposes).

Strong idea, and it would have a positive impact even if not universally supported.

Edit, afterthought: I mine another alt that does "good works" and I've noticed in its discussion threads that people show up to say "it doesn't do enough good work" or "I don't like the good works it's doing, it should be doing X instead", blah blah. With that kind of thing in mind, it might be wiser for us to seek a bunch of charity "good work" sites to accept DRK so donors can choose rather than having DRK endorse Charity X. This is harder to do than one might guess. One of the major "good works" campaigns announced recently that they had lost government funding and desperately needed money. When approached to see if they would accept crypto donations they said, in effect, "we'll think about it" and went into a bureaucratic coma - despite the fact that donors were lined up and they could have converted to fiat (or whatever) instantly through the exchanges.
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August 20, 2014, 02:06:03 PM
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Latest update from Evan - RC4 and Darksend+ working, Kristov Atlas Review, Open Source and DarkTor Announcement - Amazing

https://darkcointalk.org/threads/development-update-august-19-2014.2086/

Thanks for sharing that. I'm guessing Evan read my PM and did not reply, so we won't be seeing a new thread/one that is updated regurarily.
The issue is that people miss these sort of things if they aren't on darkcointalk. It's hard to manage 1 forum and keep up with 2-3 coins regularly (Bitcoin being first).
The idea of DarkTor is amazing. The price of $0.50 a day is too much when you compare at what prices you could find a VPN. I think that $0.20 would be somewhere around the perfect mark, while imposing some sort of limit. You don't want the user (abuser) maxing out the network and just forcing huge amount of traffic for no reason.

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August 20, 2014, 02:08:43 PM
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The idea of DarkTor is amazing. The price of $0.50 a day is too much when you compare at what prices you could find a VPN. I think that $0.20 would be somewhere around the perfect mark, while imposing some sort of limit. You don't want the user (abuser) maxing out the network and just forcing huge amount of traffic for no reason.

Set a cap, or just charge based on bandwidth. Any user will already need a Darkcoin wallet, it keeps track DRKTor use and deducts fees accordingly.

The network already calculates fees based on tx size and charges the client - a lot of that code could be repurposed without too much bother.

You would have a DRK balance for your coins, and a DRKTor balance for your comms.
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August 20, 2014, 02:08:56 PM
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Funnel 10% of MN fees to Save the Children, OXFAM, whatever. I'll sign up now. Let's see the media tackle that.

"Darkcoin! OMG isn't that illegal?"
"No, actually we raise shitloads of money for starving children."

If the name stays (and probably it will), then that's the forward thinking we need (risk mitigation regarding marketing issue).
Such measures would effectively reduce a lot of the potential negativity we may see some day.
Sends a positive vibe to the outside world.

Great suggestion. Let's see what MN owners have to say on that.
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August 20, 2014, 02:16:18 PM
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Funnel 10% of MN fees to Save the Children, OXFAM, whatever. I'll sign up now. Let's see the media tackle that.

"Darkcoin! OMG isn't that illegal?"
"No, actually we raise shitloads of money for starving children."

If the name stays (and probably it will), then that's the forward thinking we need (risk mitigation regarding marketing issue).
Such measures would effectively reduce a lot of the potential negativity we may see some day.
Sends a positive vibe to the outside world.

Great suggestion. Let's see what MN owners have to say on that.

Give users the option in the client: Use Masternodes that donate to good causes Yes/No? (There is no extra cost to you.)

Put a ticker in every client: Charitable funds raised so far: $$$$$$$$$$ - make everyone who touches a Darkcoin wallet aware that they are doing something positive for the world with every single transaction.

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August 20, 2014, 02:21:06 PM
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Give users the option in the client: Use Masternodes that donate to good causes Yes/No? (There is no extra cost to you.)

Put a ticker in every client: Charitable funds raised so far: $$$$$$$$$$ - make everyone who touches a Darkcoin wallet aware that they are doing something positive for the world with every single transaction.



Nice idea. Let the users choose the charity though. That way when the charity turns out to be a front for the CIA (or whatever) down the road, it's the user's issue, not DRK's.
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August 20, 2014, 02:23:16 PM
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Give users the option in the client: Use Masternodes that donate to good causes Yes/No? (There is no extra cost to you.)

Put a ticker in every client: Charitable funds raised so far: $$$$$$$$$$ - make everyone who touches a Darkcoin wallet aware that they are doing something positive for the world with every single transaction.



Nice idea. Let the users choose the charity though. That way when the charity turns out to be a front for the CIA (or whatever) down the road, it's the user's issue, not DRK's.


I think this is a great fucking idea... Do something thatll really capture attention and steal the limelight.... no easier press then Charity Press
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August 20, 2014, 02:24:59 PM
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Nice idea. Let the users choose the charity though. That way when the charity turns out to be a front for the CIA (or whatever) down the road, it's the user's issue, not DRK's.

Which government castrated you in '52?

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August 20, 2014, 02:26:03 PM
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Set a cap, or just charge based on bandwidth. Any user will already need a Darkcoin wallet, it keeps track DRKTor use and deducts fees accordingly.

The network already calculates fees based on tx size and charges the client - a lot of that code could be repurposed without too much bother.

You would have a DRK balance for your coins, and a DRKTor balance for your comms.
I've actually registered on the forum just to share some input from here so that it doesn't get lost in the numerous posts here.
This is actually a good idea, some people might need 500gb some might need 50gb even less.
The pricing should probably have some tiers like <100gb - costs x.xx and above a different price.

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August 20, 2014, 02:26:59 PM
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Another thought on the charity issue - it might potentially conflict with the decentralization/anonymity issue so that would have to be thought through. Which MNs, exactly, support charities? Give me all the details - oopsie.

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August 20, 2014, 02:28:19 PM
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Nice idea. Let the users choose the charity though. That way when the charity turns out to be a front for the CIA (or whatever) down the road, it's the user's issue, not DRK's.

Which government castrated you in '52?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing
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August 20, 2014, 02:28:46 PM
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Nice idea. Let the users choose the charity though. That way when the charity turns out to be a front for the CIA (or whatever) down the road, it's the user's issue, not DRK's.

Which government castrated you in '52?

Heh. My avatar picture is Alan Turing. He is one of my heroes.
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August 20, 2014, 02:32:39 PM
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Nice idea. Let the users choose the charity though. That way when the charity turns out to be a front for the CIA (or whatever) down the road, it's the user's issue, not DRK's.

Which government castrated you in '52?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing

Poor bastard, got shafted after he did so much during the war...

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August 20, 2014, 02:33:54 PM
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Perhaps just give masternodes the option to send 1 out of every x payments to an address administrated by the Darkcoin foundation. These funds would then be distributed between a number of charities that we could vote on. Additionally, such a scheme could be implemented with a % of transaction fees.
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August 20, 2014, 02:42:54 PM
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Funnel 10% of MN fees to Save the Children, OXFAM, whatever. I'll sign up now. Let's see the media tackle that.

"Darkcoin! OMG isn't that illegal?"
"No, actually we raise shitloads of money for starving children."

If the name stays (and probably it will), then that's the forward thinking we need (risk mitigation regarding marketing issue).
Such measures would effectively reduce a lot of the potential negativity we may see some day.
Sends a positive vibe to the outside world.

Great suggestion. Let's see what MN owners have to say on that.

Give users the option in the client: Use Masternodes that donate to good causes Yes/No? (There is no extra cost to you.)

Put a ticker in every client: Charitable funds raised so far: $$$$$$$$$$ - make everyone who touches a Darkcoin wallet aware that they are doing something positive for the world with every single transaction.

I`m a MNs operator and I would take part in this project if it will go on.

BBC - "Darkcoin masternodes operators donate $500.000 for "Save The Children" in Nigeria"
CNN - "DarkTor fees were able to fund schools for children in 3rd world countries.
etc.

That could be great.

We have the potencial to do much lol Smiley

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August 20, 2014, 02:46:09 PM
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Nice idea. Let the users choose the charity though. That way when the charity turns out to be a front for the CIA (or whatever) down the road, it's the user's issue, not DRK's.

Which government castrated you in '52?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Imitation_Game

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The Imitation Game is an upcoming historical drama film about British mathematician, logician, cryptanalyst and computer scientist Alan Turing, a key figure in cracking Nazi Germany's Enigma code that helped the Allies win World War II, who was later criminally prosecuted for his homosexuality.[6][7][8] It stars Benedict Cumberbatch as Turing and is directed by Morten Tyldum with a screenplay by Graham Moore, based on the biography Alan Turing: The Enigma by Andrew Hodges.[9][10][11]

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August 20, 2014, 02:49:27 PM
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Perhaps just give masternodes the option to send 1 out of every x payments to an address administrated by the Darkcoin foundation. These funds would then be distributed between a number of charities that we could vote on. Additionally, such a scheme could be implemented with a % of transaction fees.

Just like many others, I invested in creating a master node.  I'd say I'm about 3k$ in the hole all in all.  The thoughts that I might be forced to give up a portion of my meager income to charity just makes me wanna hurl.  I agree that it should be optional.  

I've also read about a "mistaken" DRK insta/pre mine......  Why aren't these funds being used to fund a charity.....or set up MNs with the sole purpose of donating their proceeds to charity?

 

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August 20, 2014, 02:50:11 PM
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So I received another masternode payment.  That's two in a little over six hours.  What's troubles me is that I should have gotten three payments if it wasn't for this guy not paying the 20% masternode fee.  http://explorer.darkcoin.io/block/0000000000086eadb80ad08b5d7ff75891abbad0a7040a2fbf1d4c82cf1a0727.  He's not paying any fee's http://explorer.darkcoin.io/address/Xqi4JGoYQsKy2uyxyA3nuR1vrJi474jnJj  It really ticks me off that I didn't get my payment.  Something needs to be done about this.  It's costing me money.  Ironic isn't it?



So what's the status on enforcement?  The lack of it is costing me money because I'm not getting all my masternode payments due to non-compliant entities refusing to pay the 20% fee.  Something needs to be done about this ASAP.    
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If you read the latest development update, it says that enforcement testing is going to start soon, and enforcement should occur prior to RC5.
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