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[RenegadeMan]

I absolutely love Darkcoin and all the people that make up this community, but reading through all that's just happened to xxxgoodgirls and what stonehedge went through with the hack he suffered recently one would have to come to the conclusion that managing your locally stored Darkcoin is far from certain and assured. It's alarming to me that substantial amounts of value can be lost so easily and with such accompanying confusion that entraps even very experienced people.

Until the retention and securing of coins in wallets can be lifted up and out of this level of technical confusion and need for extreme (almost forensic) troubleshooting, Darkcoin is NOT going to be used by regular people. To read through pages and pages of someone battling to understand where their thousands of $ have gone and finally admitting defeat is terrible (so sorry for your loss xxx; l sure hope something gets resolved and you can retrieve your DRK somehow).

This really is an aspect of crypto that will prevent many people from getting involved (read: virtually everyone who is outside of these levels of technical ability which is 99.9%), We really need to spend a whole lot more time and effort on firming up wallet apps and infrastructure if Darkcoin is to be taken seriously as the potential to inexplicably lose all your DRK is very real.

[splawik21]

Got a reply from DirectBet in regards to questions asked by the DRK community. Will put it up tomorrow on CryptoArticles

+2

[Lebubar]

Uhm I am not finding anything about how comodo's sandbox works.
I don't know if running a sandboxed .exe means it cannot modify anything on the hard disk in real time or it just modifies it but then gets its modifies reverted at its closesing (I guess the 1st option).
Anyway the whole blockchain and wallet.dat has been downloaded somewhere, for a while at least (temp folder or so).
If someone manages to find a way (if any) to recover the wallet .dat, I'll tip you those 5 exceding DRKs for the help.

C:\ProgramData\Shared Space is empty.

What you have here :
'C:/Program Data/Shared Space'. ?

EDIT :You can access the shared space folder in the following ways:
Clicking the 'Shared Space' shortcut on your computer desktop
Clicking 'Shared Space' button on the CIS interface
Opening 'Sandbox Tasks' from the Tasks interface then clicking 'Open Shared Space'

[xxxgoodgirls]

Uhm I am not finding anything about how comodo's sandbox works.
I don't know if running a sandboxed .exe means it cannot modify anything on the hard disk in real time or it just modifies it but then gets its modifies reverted at its closesing (I guess the 1st option).
Anyway the whole blockchain and wallet.dat has been downloaded somewhere, for a while at least (temp folder or so).
If someone manages to find a way (if any) to recover the wallet .dat, I'll tip you those 5 exceding DRKs for the help.

C:\ProgramData\Shared Space is empty.

What you have here :
'C:/Program Data/Shared Space'. ?

EDIT :You can access the shared space folder in the following ways:
Clicking the 'Shared Space' shortcut on your computer desktop
Clicking 'Shared Space' button on the CIS interface
Opening 'Sandbox Tasks' from the Tasks interface then clicking 'Open Shared Space'

It is empty.

[qwizzie]

Uhm I am not finding anything about how comodo's sandbox works.
I don't know if running a sandboxed .exe means it cannot modify anything on the hard disk in real time or it just modifies it but then gets its modifies reverted at its closesing (I guess the 1st option).
Anyway the whole blockchain and wallet.dat has been downloaded somewhere, for a while at least (temp folder or so).
If someone manages to find a way (if any) to recover the wallet .dat, I'll tip you those 5 exceding DRKs for the help.

C:\ProgramData\Shared Space is empty.

What you have here :
'C:/Program Data/Shared Space'. ?

EDIT :You can access the shared space folder in the following ways:
Clicking the 'Shared Space' shortcut on your computer desktop
Clicking 'Shared Space' button on the CIS interface
Opening 'Sandbox Tasks' from the Tasks interface then clicking 'Open Shared Space'

It is empty.

/tmp (that is if such folder exist.. and if yr using Ubuntu and if you havent powered down yr pc)

[xxxgoodgirls]

I absolutely love Darkcoin and all the people that make up this community, but reading through all that's just happened to xxxgoodgirls and what stonehedge went through with the hack he suffered recently one would have to come to the conclusion that managing your locally stored Darkcoin is far from certain and assured. It's alarming to me that substantial amounts of value can be lost so easily and with such accompanying confusion that entraps even very experienced people.

Until the retention and securing of coins in wallets can be lifted up and out of this level of technical confusion and need for extreme (almost forensic) troubleshooting, Darkcoin is NOT going to be used by regular people. To read through pages and pages of someone battling to understand where their thousands of $ have gone and finally admitting defeat is terrible (so sorry for your loss xxx; l sure hope something gets resolved and you can retrieve your DRK somehow).

This really is an aspect of crypto that will prevent many people from getting involved (read: virtually everyone who is outside of these levels of technical ability which is 99.9%), We really need to spend a whole lot more time and effort on firming up wallet apps and infrastructure if Darkcoin is to be taken seriously as the potential to inexplicably lose all your DRK is very real.

Nah, there are several ways to avoid getting fucked.
I have been dumb, it is all of my fault.
Anyway 2FA will be a killer.

[Lebubar]

Uhm I am not finding anything about how comodo's sandbox works.
I don't know if running a sandboxed .exe means it cannot modify anything on the hard disk in real time or it just modifies it but then gets its modifies reverted at its closesing (I guess the 1st option).
Anyway the whole blockchain and wallet.dat has been downloaded somewhere, for a while at least (temp folder or so).
If someone manages to find a way (if any) to recover the wallet .dat, I'll tip you those 5 exceding DRKs for the help.

C:\ProgramData\Shared Space is empty.

What you have here :
'C:/Program Data/Shared Space'. ?

EDIT :You can access the shared space folder in the following ways:
Clicking the 'Shared Space' shortcut on your computer desktop
Clicking 'Shared Space' button on the CIS interface
Opening 'Sandbox Tasks' from the Tasks interface then clicking 'Open Shared Space'

It is empty.

FAK!
Did you habe shared space button on the CIS interface?

[xxxgoodgirls]

Uhm I am not finding anything about how comodo's sandbox works.
I don't know if running a sandboxed .exe means it cannot modify anything on the hard disk in real time or it just modifies it but then gets its modifies reverted at its closesing (I guess the 1st option).
Anyway the whole blockchain and wallet.dat has been downloaded somewhere, for a while at least (temp folder or so).
If someone manages to find a way (if any) to recover the wallet .dat, I'll tip you those 5 exceding DRKs for the help.

C:\ProgramData\Shared Space is empty.

What you have here :
'C:/Program Data/Shared Space'. ?

EDIT :You can access the shared space folder in the following ways:
Clicking the 'Shared Space' shortcut on your computer desktop
Clicking 'Shared Space' button on the CIS interface
Opening 'Sandbox Tasks' from the Tasks interface then clicking 'Open Shared Space'

It is empty.

FAK!
Did you habe shared space button on the CIS interface?

Yup, but it redirects me to  the empty folder. What about a utility recovery of temp files? Where has the blockchain been downloaded?

[qwizzie]

Uhm I am not finding anything about how comodo's sandbox works.
I don't know if running a sandboxed .exe means it cannot modify anything on the hard disk in real time or it just modifies it but then gets its modifies reverted at its closesing (I guess the 1st option).
Anyway the whole blockchain and wallet.dat has been downloaded somewhere, for a while at least (temp folder or so).
If someone manages to find a way (if any) to recover the wallet .dat, I'll tip you those 5 exceding DRKs for the help.

C:\ProgramData\Shared Space is empty.

What you have here :
'C:/Program Data/Shared Space'. ?

EDIT :You can access the shared space folder in the following ways:
Clicking the 'Shared Space' shortcut on your computer desktop
Clicking 'Shared Space' button on the CIS interface
Opening 'Sandbox Tasks' from the Tasks interface then clicking 'Open Shared Space'

It is empty.

FAK!
Did you habe shared space button on the CIS interface?

Yup, but it redirects me to  the empty folder. What about a utility recovery of temp files? Where has the blockchain been downloaded?

check for a folder named /tmp

[stonehedge]

I absolutely love Darkcoin and all the people that make up this community, but reading through all that's just happened to xxxgoodgirls and what stonehedge went through with the hack he suffered recently one would have to come to the conclusion that managing your locally stored Darkcoin is far from certain and assured. It's alarming to me that substantial amounts of value can be lost so easily and with such accompanying confusion that entraps even very experienced people.

Until the retention and securing of coins in wallets can be lifted up and out of this level of technical confusion and need for extreme (almost forensic) troubleshooting, Darkcoin is NOT going to be used by regular people. To read through pages and pages of someone battling to understand where their thousands of $ have gone and finally admitting defeat is terrible (so sorry for your loss xxx; l sure hope something gets resolved and you can retrieve your DRK somehow).

This really is an aspect of crypto that will prevent many people from getting involved (read: virtually everyone who is outside of these levels of technical ability which is 99.9%), We really need to spend a whole lot more time and effort on firming up wallet apps and infrastructure if Darkcoin is to be taken seriously as the potential to inexplicably lose all your DRK is very real.

Nah, there are several ways to avoid getting fucked.
I have been dumb, it is all of my fault.
Anyway 2FA will be a killer.

Agreed.  I screwed up.  My loss.  Suck it up and move on.

2FA is going to be amazing...

[Lebubar]

No tmp in windows..

BC is in same folder as wallet.dat.

Can you contact comodo to know how they work with a sandboxed application.
And where put the files generated by the sandboxed application.
If they put thwm in /dev/null of windows... You loose all..

Mmm a last dumb thinking : did you check trash?
And maybe search for a hd recovery tools..

[xxxgoodgirls]

No tmp in windows..

BC is in same folder as wallet.dat.

Can you contact comodo to know how they work with a sandboxed application.
And where put the files generated by the sandboxed application.

Yeah I am gonna do that, thank you everyone for the efforts, you guys are awesome.

[qwizzie]

No tmp in windows..

BC is in same folder as wallet.dat.

Can you contact comodo to know how they work with a sandboxed application.
And where put the files generated by the sandboxed application.

Yeah I am gonna do that, thank you everyone for the efforts, you guys are awesome.

if yr using windows check here for temp files :

C:\Users\YRUSERNAME\AppData\Local\Temp
C:\Windows\Temp

i got the impression you were running Ubuntu so that why i mentioned the  /tmp folder earlier.

[thelonecrouton]

I absolutely love Darkcoin and all the people that make up this community, but reading through all that's just happened to xxxgoodgirls and what stonehedge went through with the hack he suffered recently one would have to come to the conclusion that managing your locally stored Darkcoin is far from certain and assured. It's alarming to me that substantial amounts of value can be lost so easily and with such accompanying confusion that entraps even very experienced people.

Until the retention and securing of coins in wallets can be lifted up and out of this level of technical confusion and need for extreme (almost forensic) troubleshooting, Darkcoin is NOT going to be used by regular people. To read through pages and pages of someone battling to understand where their thousands of $ have gone and finally admitting defeat is terrible (so sorry for your loss xxx; l sure hope something gets resolved and you can retrieve your DRK somehow).

This really is an aspect of crypto that will prevent many people from getting involved (read: virtually everyone who is outside of these levels of technical ability which is 99.9%), We really need to spend a whole lot more time and effort on firming up wallet apps and infrastructure if Darkcoin is to be taken seriously as the potential to inexplicably lose all your DRK is very real.

I think you're being a bit pessimistic, but what I would like to see is automatic periodic backup to a second location of the wallet.dat, and a big popup on initial startup of a new wallet (or creation of a new address) encouraging the user to click a button to print out their privkey(s) - with "KEEP THESE PRIVATE AND SAFE!" at the top of the page and instructions on how to import them.

[YourMother]

"'Shared Space' is a dedicated area on your local drive that sandboxed applications are permitted to write to and which can also be accessed by non-sandboxed applications (hence the term 'Shared Space'). For example, any files or programs you download via a sandboxed browser that you wish to be able to access from your real system should be downloaded to the shared space. This folder is also used by the Virtual Kiosk and is located by default at 'C:/Program Data/Shared Space'.

You can access the shared space folder in the following ways:
Clicking the 'Shared Space' shortcut on your computer desktop
Clicking 'Shared Space' button on the CIS interface
Opening 'Sandbox Tasks' from the Tasks interface then clicking 'Open Shared Space'

By default, sandboxed applications can access folders and files on your 'real' system but cannot save any changes to them. However, you can define exceptions to this rule by using the 'Do not virtualize access to...' links."

_________

Now, if the files were indeed saved to that "shared space" folder, then you should start a file recovery application yesterday. The more you wait, the more files are being written randomly on your C partition, thus diminishing your chances of recovery greatly.

If you are using a TRIM-enabled SSD, then i'm truly sorry. Your data is unrecoverable.

[Artoodeetoo]

What happened to stone hedge?

[jdebunt]

The link will be posted here once the interview has been published, no worries

[xxxgoodgirls]

"'Shared Space' is a dedicated area on your local drive that sandboxed applications are permitted to write to and which can also be accessed by non-sandboxed applications (hence the term 'Shared Space'). For example, any files or programs you download via a sandboxed browser that you wish to be able to access from your real system should be downloaded to the shared space. This folder is also used by the Virtual Kiosk and is located by default at 'C:/Program Data/Shared Space'.

You can access the shared space folder in the following ways:
Clicking the 'Shared Space' shortcut on your computer desktop
Clicking 'Shared Space' button on the CIS interface
Opening 'Sandbox Tasks' from the Tasks interface then clicking 'Open Shared Space'

By default, sandboxed applications can access folders and files on your 'real' system but cannot save any changes to them. However, you can define exceptions to this rule by using the 'Do not virtualize access to...' links."

_________

Now, if the files were indeed saved to that "shared space" folder, then you should start a file recovery application yesterday. The more you wait, the more files are being written randomly on your C partition, thus diminishing your chances of recovery greatly.

If you are using a TRIM-enabled SSD, then i'm truly sorry. Your data is unrecoverable.

Do you know any good file recover application? I guess I can try to run it on the open 'shared space'.
Qwizzie I am on the fucking Windows 8.

[xxxgoodgirls]

FUCK YEAH

C:\VTRoot\HarddiskVolume3\Users\XXXX\AppData\Roaming\DarkCoin

SO HAPPYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[qwizzie]

"'Shared Space' is a dedicated area on your local drive that sandboxed applications are permitted to write to and which can also be accessed by non-sandboxed applications (hence the term 'Shared Space'). For example, any files or programs you download via a sandboxed browser that you wish to be able to access from your real system should be downloaded to the shared space. This folder is also used by the Virtual Kiosk and is located by default at 'C:/Program Data/Shared Space'.

You can access the shared space folder in the following ways:
Clicking the 'Shared Space' shortcut on your computer desktop
Clicking 'Shared Space' button on the CIS interface
Opening 'Sandbox Tasks' from the Tasks interface then clicking 'Open Shared Space'

By default, sandboxed applications can access folders and files on your 'real' system but cannot save any changes to them. However, you can define exceptions to this rule by using the 'Do not virtualize access to...' links."

_________

Now, if the files were indeed saved to that "shared space" folder, then you should start a file recovery application yesterday. The more you wait, the more files are being written randomly on your C partition, thus diminishing your chances of recovery greatly.

If you are using a TRIM-enabled SSD, then i'm truly sorry. Your data is unrecoverable.

Do you know any good file recover application? I guess I can try to run it on the open 'shared space'.
Qwizzie I am on the fucking Windows 8.

old link but maybe it helps :

http://forums.comodo.com/feedbackcommentsannouncementsnews/where_are_stored_comodo_log_files_and_temp_files-t2968.0.html