[NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread

[makoto1337]

As NEM is being build from the ground up, would this be a problem for exchanges to add NEM?

Everything that's not a Bitcoin clone requires custom implementation, just as NXT. Thus it is indeed harder for exchanges to implement Nxt/Nem. Nothing to worry much about, though. Those exchanges that added Nxt earlier will most likely be able to add Nem quickly.

one of the devs should write up a "how to" sort of thing to help exchanges to implement support for nem.. or set a large bounty for the first 2 exchanges with large volume(has to be above x amount of trade per day) that implement it.... perhaps the nem community should work on its own exchange like dgex. i think it may be vital if no exchanges can implement it... but please for the love of god make it look and work better then dgex. it looks dreadfully bad... i saw it in december and instantly thought it was a scam site. set bounty for that too.. also someone should get working on a multipool so it is ready for launch when the coin launches! a good multipool will be a huge boost at the start too! SET A BOUNTY FOR IT!

 i will say now i will donate nem towards

1) multipool  (50,000 nem) (following conditions must be met)
    a) support for all types of mining
    b) i will only give the bounty out once it reaches (some one inject a healthy amount of hashing power, nothing ridiculous, but not small ether)
    c) very user friendly UI

2) Nem exchange (50,000 NEM) (btc <> Nem) (assuming btc <> Nem isnt supported in client AT LAUNCH)
   a) user friendly NOT like dgex
   b) safe NOT like cryptsy

3) first and second exchange to support NEM (50,000 Nem first, 30,000 second) (exchanges to include only exchanges with decent volume(someone inject exchanges please)

4) first nem related app on apple i-store and android-store to get (100,000 unique downloads(someone correct me if 100,000 isnt much?) (30,000 nem to each app developer)
   a) must have links/info about nem, how to buy nem and what it is for ect...

conditions of bounties subject to change at.

i have many other ideas for bounties so if other people are willing to help with bounties i will do more!


 

I think we should work with many exchanges to get NEM listed. In addition, we should make our own exchange so that we can control the buying/selling experience.

[j23a]

Look at this Nem picture http://www.danhgiakpi.com/nemClient/web/index.html#ajax/dashboard.html

Would it be possible to only release the source code (months after launch) of the everything related to how the coin works, but keep everything else close source for much, much, much longer?

That way the clones will stay very inferior, and not just anyone could copy it to the tune of 21+ coins per week.

[patmast3r]

Look at this Nem picture http://www.danhgiakpi.com/nemClient/web/index.html#ajax/dashboard.html

Would it be possible to only release the source code (months after launch) of the everything related to how the coin works, but keep everything else close source for much, much, much longer?

That way the clones will stay very inferior, and not just anyone could copy it to the tune of 21+ coins per week.

That's exactly what the clones would be after. I don't think keeping parts back that are not related to the infrastructure of the network will hamper cloning.

[bitfromit]

Look at this Nem picture http://www.danhgiakpi.com/nemClient/web/index.html#ajax/dashboard.html

Would it be possible to only release the source code (months after launch) of the everything related to how the coin works, but keep everything else close source for much, much, much longer?

That way the clones will stay very inferior, and not just anyone could copy it to the tune of 21+ coins per week.

breathless. that is amazing.

[pranas]

anybody knows when will be finall stake holder list?

[j23a]

Look at this Nem picture http://www.danhgiakpi.com/nemClient/web/index.html#ajax/dashboard.html

Would it be possible to only release the source code (months after launch) of the everything related to how the coin works, but keep everything else close source for much, much, much longer?

That way the clones will stay very inferior, and not just anyone could copy it to the tune of 21+ coins per week.

That's exactly what the clones would be after. I don't think keeping parts back that are not related to the infrastructure of the network will hamper cloning.

It's not to hamper it, but keep away those popular features.

[patmast3r]

Look at this Nem picture http://www.danhgiakpi.com/nemClient/web/index.html#ajax/dashboard.html

Would it be possible to only release the source code (months after launch) of the everything related to how the coin works, but keep everything else close source for much, much, much longer?

That way the clones will stay very inferior, and not just anyone could copy it to the tune of 21+ coins per week.

That's exactly what the clones would be after. I don't think keeping parts back that are not related to the infrastructure of the network will hamper cloning.

It's not to hamper it, but keep away those popular features.

All the popular features are part of how the coin works

[pabloangello]

NEM - Nothing Else Matters!

[bitfromit]

NEM - Nothing Else Matters!

ok il go with that 

[Fatih87SK]

http://www.danhgiakpi.com/nemClient/web/index.html

Is this the client design prototype?

This is fckng awesome!

[pabloangello]

http://www.danhgiakpi.com/nemClient/web/index.html

Is this the client design prototype?

This is fckng awesome!

It doesn't look like wallet, it looks like some kind of web-dev framework.

edit:
Yes it is Bootstrap

Here: https://wrapbootstrap.com/theme/barnie-minimal-admin-theme-WB0R67929

Nothing wrong with that of course. Just integrate it with NEM

[pranas]

   
   
Re: [NEM] NEM -New Economy Movement - No Envy Movement - Updates+Discussion thread
Today at 10:47:09 AM
   
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Quote from: instacash on April 02, 2014, 08:09:39 PM
http://www.danhgiakpi.com/nemClient/web/index.html

Is this the client design prototype?

This is fckng awesome!

better than nxt client

[WayToGo]

fcking awesome....
neat interface.

would be a good integration, if it happens

[Thingamajig]

Look at this Nem picture http://www.danhgiakpi.com/nemClient/web/index.html#ajax/dashboard.html

Would it be possible to only release the source code (months after launch) of the everything related to how the coin works, but keep everything else close source for much, much, much longer?

That way the clones will stay very inferior, and not just anyone could copy it to the tune of 21+ coins per week.

This doesn't look in any way official.

[j23a]

Look at this Nem picture http://www.danhgiakpi.com/nemClient/web/index.html#ajax/dashboard.html

Would it be possible to only release the source code (months after launch) of the everything related to how the coin works, but keep everything else close source for much, much, much longer?

That way the clones will stay very inferior, and not just anyone could copy it to the tune of 21+ coins per week.

This doesn't look in any way official.

I think I might have pasted the wrong thing, but it would be cool if that's what the web interface would look like for Nem.

I meant to post the wallet

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B9jSTPeGZxgtdzZ5RVltMGhyOG8&usp=sharing&tid=0B9jSTPeGZxgtTjVncFlmMmJ6LW8

[WayToGo]

Can someone give me the best answer for this query, which was asked in a different thread.

What does NEM hope to deliver that makes it much better than NXT? I know this sounds like a defensive attacking question but it's not, I genuinely want to know what is the best at least on paper if all things promised are delivered?

[mlwlxz]

http://www.danhgiakpi.com/nemClient/web/index.html

Is this the client design prototype?

This is fckng awesome!

It doesn't look like wallet, it looks like some kind of web-dev framework.

edit:
Yes it is Bootstrap

Here: https://wrapbootstrap.com/theme/barnie-minimal-admin-theme-WB0R67929

Nothing wrong with that of course. Just integrate it with NEM

Great and Impressive, This is the real BTC 2.0!

[Jaguar0625]

There are many merits and failings of both brain wallets and desktop wallets. To be honest, I think it's just a matter of personal preference...

It's an interesting discussion, but I think it's pretty much a finality that NEM will be using a desktop wallet system. A poll on the forum a while back, plus a general browse on forums, shows that desktop wallets are preferred by the vast majority of people.

Perhaps the fact that this discussion is happening indicates that a new wallet system is needed, a hybrid of brain and desktop wallets. Perhaps something for the NEM developers to think about in the future?

I'm not one for online wallets to be honest. In fact i'm not one for anything "online" based as i feel i have far less control over the security of whatever it is in question (Whether that be software or, in this case, currency)


A hybrid would be ideal. This to me was the biggest downfall of NXT as online storage has more cons than pro's.

Offspring for Nxt (Win/Mac/Linux) supports local wallets, I believe:

https://github.com/incentivetoken/offspring

True. You can save your coins on your PC with offspring.

At its core, NXT is using a brain wallet. I'm not sure how you can save coins to your PC, unless you are referring to backing up the pass-phrase? Even so, it seems like they could still be unlocked by the network. Or am I missing something?

[patmast3r]

Can someone give me the best answer for this query, which was asked in a different thread.

What does NEM hope to deliver that makes it much better than NXT? I know this sounds like a defensive attacking question but it's not, I genuinely want to know what is the best at least on paper if all things promised are delivered?

+ Initial distribution
+ POI
+ kickass client at launch

There is much more "under the hood" stuff that is being worked on though. I can't say anything about that because it hasn't been officially anounced yet and I don't want to overpromise (in case something goes south and things don't make it into the release).

+Obivously the whole team (whichi includes the entire community, devs, ...).

[patmast3r]

There are many merits and failings of both brain wallets and desktop wallets. To be honest, I think it's just a matter of personal preference...

It's an interesting discussion, but I think it's pretty much a finality that NEM will be using a desktop wallet system. A poll on the forum a while back, plus a general browse on forums, shows that desktop wallets are preferred by the vast majority of people.

Perhaps the fact that this discussion is happening indicates that a new wallet system is needed, a hybrid of brain and desktop wallets. Perhaps something for the NEM developers to think about in the future?

I'm not one for online wallets to be honest. In fact i'm not one for anything "online" based as i feel i have far less control over the security of whatever it is in question (Whether that be software or, in this case, currency)


A hybrid would be ideal. This to me was the biggest downfall of NXT as online storage has more cons than pro's.

Offspring for Nxt (Win/Mac/Linux) supports local wallets, I believe:

https://github.com/incentivetoken/offspring

True. You can save your coins on your PC with offspring.

At its core, NXT is using a brain wallet. I'm not sure how you can save coins to your PC, unless you are referring to backing up the pass-phrase? Even so, it seems like they could still be unlocked by the network. Or am I missing something?

https://github.com/incentivetoken/offspring/tree/master/com.dgex.offspring.wallet/src/com/dgex/offspring/wallet

I guess you can "backup" your wallet. Skiming the code it looks like you store your password encrypted locally but of course that doesn't mean noone can access that account anymore.
Imho this gives a complete false sense of security since it suggests that you store your coins locally.

May have missunderstood the code though...