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I also checked the wayback machine Internet archive and the website has been designing and manufacturing MICROPROCESSOR system for many years. This can't be a scam. https://web.archive.org/web/19990208012249/http://www.cms.uk.com/The data points are really starting to add up to them being legit. Hopefully, someone at the company will be working this weekend to give us more information that we can verify and paint a complete picture. I think they just didn't realize how many people have been burned and are very wary about new companies with amazing products popping up overnight. Although I can't find any social profiles for any of them, it isn't all that unlikely. I also have ZERO social profiles a well. I never used one and never will, because I know what Google, Facebook and the like do with your data. It's sickening. If people actually read their terms and conditions and understood it, they would never signup. Most people just don't understand "implied consent" or any other legal terms. Social networking is a big sham. Every piece of data you give them they use against you and profit heavily from it. They make thousands of dollars every year from each of your profiles (data that YOU give them) and have their way with it over and over again. |
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January 25, 2014, 05:04:26 PM |
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I doff my hat, that is a fine bit of detective work. I also checked the wayback machine Internet archive and the website has been designing and manufacturing MICROPROCESSOR system for many years. This can't be a scam. https://web.archive.org/web/19990208012249/http://www.cms.uk.com/The data points are really starting to add up to them being legit. Hopefully, someone at the company will be working this weekend to give us more information that we can verify and paint a complete picture. I think they just didn't realize how many people have been burned and are very wary about new companies with amazing products popping up overnight. Although I can't find any social profiles for any of them, it isn't all that unlikely. I also have ZERO social profiles a well. I never used one and never will, because I know what Google, Facebook and the like do with your data. It's sickening. If people actually read their terms and conditions and understood it, they would never signup. Most people just don't understand "implied consent" or any other legal terms. Social networking is a big sham. Every piece of data you give them they use against you and profit heavily from it. They make thousands of dollars every year from each of your profiles (data that YOU give them) and have their way with it over and over again. Yeah, but anyone can say they are working with a legit company, doesn't make them legit. Best bet here is to contact CMS themselves and ask. The majority of the other foundries have been forthcoming on their collaborations with Asic companies |
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January 25, 2014, 05:09:03 PM |
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It would be really easier to ask Rebecca some questions on this forum if some guys would not jump her like hungry dogs.
Maybe next time the horde will first ask questions first and then bite.
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January 25, 2014, 05:09:45 PM |
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I also checked the wayback machine Internet archive and the website has been designing and manufacturing MICROPROCESSOR system for many years. This can't be a scam. https://web.archive.org/web/19990208012249/http://www.cms.uk.com/The data points are really starting to add up to them being legit. Hopefully, someone at the company will be working this weekend to give us more information that we can verify and paint a complete picture. I think they just didn't realize how many people have been burned and are very wary about new companies with amazing products popping up overnight. Although I can't find any social profiles for any of them, it isn't all that unlikely. I also have ZERO social profiles a well. I never used one and never will, because I know what Google, Facebook and the like do with your data. It's sickening. If people actually read their terms and conditions and understood it, they would never signup. Most people just don't understand "implied consent" or any other legal terms. Social networking is a big sham. Every piece of data you give them they use against you and profit heavily from it. They make thousands of dollars every year from each of your profiles (data that YOU give them) and have their way with it over and over again. Sorry Maui but you are just as suspect as this outfit is. Your first post on here was for selling two KNC preorders. You would not take escrow and when no one took you up on your offer you sold them on eGay within minutes as you state. I am curious. Do you have an ebay link to prove this. Also did you even see the post above you. There are some more data points for you to put into your equation. Sorry if I sound skeptical. A simple link to your ebay sale will make me happily eat my words. |
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January 25, 2014, 05:11:54 PM |
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a fraudulent scheme and the other was registered to prey on people which misspell the official domain from Butterfly Labs.
well done on your investigations, and thank you for confirming what we already suspected. |
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January 25, 2014, 05:19:47 PM |
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UK.Gov seems to think they existed for quite some time... you have proof otherwise? https://i.imgur.com/fzSG1YM.pngOr you guys too busy whacking off to Rebecca's pic to investigate, and would rather just troll? We all predicted the "unknown" asic companies secretly developing...and here they are... now you chastise the secret development, when it's a key component to any high tech business, and when it unfolded just as predicted? ABOUT US
Crypto Technology Systems, the team behind the CTS Miner, have been established in the microprocessor industry since 1975. CTS are an elite group formed internally from a world-class microprocessor engineering company at the forefront of Embedded controller design and manufacture, supplying products for a wide range of applications including Aircraft Testing, Remote Switchgear Operation, Stock Control, Instrumentation, Oil and Petrochemical Exploration, Marine Science and Environmental Control.
We have been following the cryptocurrency industry, and particularly Bitcoin mining, for the past year and a half. In May 2013, a team was put together to work on producing Bitcoin mining ASIC chips to be used in miners. Our small management team have had the backing of 50 full time microprocessor designers and engineers here in the UK. Over the past 8 months, we have worked tirelessly to build a group of products which outperform all competitors that will be available at a price which is un-matchable. The "Crypto Technology System" is not a subsidiary of "Cambridge Microprocessor System Limited". They are completely different entities. The first entity is fake and unregistered, while the later entity is real and registered. The people operating the first entity is misrepresenting the later entity. They are providing false information to instigate a false sense of confidence among potential customers victims. http://www.ctsminer.com/contact-us/Unit 17A
Chelmsford Road Industrial Estate
Great Dunmow
Essex
CM6 1XG
United Kingdom
Telephone: +44 1371 606056 http://www.cms.uk.com/cms_contact_us.htmlCambridge Microprocessor
Systems Limited
Unit 17, Zone D
Chelmsford Road Industrial Estate
Great Dunmow
Essex
CM6 1XG
United Kingdom
Telephone: +44 1371 606050
Facsimile: +44 1371 606051 The "Crypto Technology System" is using a very similar address and telephone number used by "Cambridge Microprocessor System Limited". Notice the slight difference is the zone letter for the address and the last digits for the telephone number.  A research using domaintools.com Internet page shows the domain ctsminer.com was redirect from the IP address 185.8.106.66 to the IP address 199.188.201.252. In accordance with the above evidence, the Internet Page was host in the IP address 185.8.106.66 from 13rd January 2014 to 17th January 2014. An examination of the IP address 185.8.106.66 reveals some interesting results, such as: https://www.virustotal.com/en/ip-address/185.8.106.66/information/ The WHOIS record on 19th January 2014 for the domain butterflyiab.com matches exactly with the WHOIS record on 12th January 2014 for the domain ctsminers.com:   That means it is very likely the same person operating the domain ctsminers.com is also responsible for the domain butterflyiab.com. Both domains were first directed to a hosting service located in Lithuania. One domain is being used to perpetrate a fraudulent scheme and the other was registered to prey on people which misspell the official domain from Butterfly Labs. IT does not mean that the same person is operating both domains. It just means they used the same domain registration obfuscation service. Corporations do that in order to not give their competitors and clue as to what they are doing. I performed some ns lookups and IP geolocations: ctsminer.com resolves to 199.188.201.252 -> United States -> Los Angeles -> Namecheap cms.uk.com resolves to 94.136.40.103 -> United Kingdom -> Derby -> Webfusion Internet Solutions butterflylabs.com resolves to 141.101.123.48 -> United Kingdom -> London -> Cloudflare Cdn Network The fact that ctsminer.com & cms.uk.com are not hosted on the same server or even the same network is a little disconcerting, I must admit. But clearly nothing to do with butterfly labs. |
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January 25, 2014, 05:24:38 PM |
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That means it is very likely the same person operating the domain ctsminers.com is also responsible for the domain butterflyiab.com.
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January 25, 2014, 05:29:21 PM |
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UK.Gov seems to think they existed for quite some time... you have proof otherwise? https://i.imgur.com/fzSG1YM.pngOr you guys too busy whacking off to Rebecca's pic to investigate, and would rather just troll? We all predicted the "unknown" asic companies secretly developing...and here they are... now you chastise the secret development, when it's a key component to any high tech business, and when it unfolded just as predicted? ABOUT US
Crypto Technology Systems, the team behind the CTS Miner, have been established in the microprocessor industry since 1975. CTS are an elite group formed internally from a world-class microprocessor engineering company at the forefront of Embedded controller design and manufacture, supplying products for a wide range of applications including Aircraft Testing, Remote Switchgear Operation, Stock Control, Instrumentation, Oil and Petrochemical Exploration, Marine Science and Environmental Control.
We have been following the cryptocurrency industry, and particularly Bitcoin mining, for the past year and a half. In May 2013, a team was put together to work on producing Bitcoin mining ASIC chips to be used in miners. Our small management team have had the backing of 50 full time microprocessor designers and engineers here in the UK. Over the past 8 months, we have worked tirelessly to build a group of products which outperform all competitors that will be available at a price which is un-matchable. The "Crypto Technology System" is not a subsidiary of "Cambridge Microprocessor System Limited". They are completely different entities. The first entity is fake and unregistered, while the later entity is real and registered. The people operating the first entity is misrepresenting the later entity. They are providing false information to instigate a false sense of confidence among potential customers victims. http://www.ctsminer.com/contact-us/Unit 17A
Chelmsford Road Industrial Estate
Great Dunmow
Essex
CM6 1XG
United Kingdom
Telephone: +44 1371 606056 http://www.cms.uk.com/cms_contact_us.htmlCambridge Microprocessor
Systems Limited
Unit 17, Zone D
Chelmsford Road Industrial Estate
Great Dunmow
Essex
CM6 1XG
United Kingdom
Telephone: +44 1371 606050
Facsimile: +44 1371 606051 The "Crypto Technology System" is using a very similar address and telephone number used by "Cambridge Microprocessor System Limited". Notice the slight difference is the zone letter for the address and the last digits for the telephone number. A research using domaintools.com Internet page shows the domain ctsminer.com was redirect from the IP address 185.8.106.66 to the IP address 199.188.201.252. In accordance with the above evidence, the Internet Page was host in the IP address 185.8.106.66 from 13rd January 2014 to 17th January 2014. An examination of the IP address 185.8.106.66 reveals some interesting results, such as: https://www.virustotal.com/en/ip-address/185.8.106.66/information/The WHOIS record on 19th January 2014 for the domain butterflyiab.com matches exactly with the WHOIS record on 12th January 2014 for the domain ctsminers.com: That means it is very likely the same person operating the domain ctsminers.com is also responsible for the domain butterflyiab.com. Both domains were first directed to a hosting service located in Lithuania. One domain is being used to perpetrate a fraudulent scheme and the other was registered to prey on people which misspell the official domain from Butterfly Labs. IT does not mean that the same person is operating both domains. It just means they used the same domain registration obfuscation service. Corporations do that in order to not give their competitors and clue as to what they are doing. I performed some ns lookups and IP geolocations: ctsminer.com resolves to 199.188.201.252 -> United States -> Los Angeles -> Namecheap cms.uk.com resolves to 94.136.40.103 -> United Kingdom -> Derby -> Webfusion Internet Solutions butterflylabs.com resolves to 141.101.123.48 -> United Kingdom -> London -> Cloudflare Cdn Network The fact that ctsminer.com & cms.uk.com are not hosted on the same server or even the same network is a little disconcerting, I must admit. But clearly nothing to do with butterfly labs. WTF. ButterlyIab.com b u t t e r f l y i a b .com Insinuating BFL has anything to do with this is borderline libel/slander. Not that I'm against others using libel or slander of BFL in anyway. |
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January 25, 2014, 05:31:07 PM |
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Insinuating BFL has anything to do with this is borderline libel/slander. Not that I'm against others using libel or slander of BFL in anyway.
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Gamer67
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January 25, 2014, 05:31:16 PM |
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UK.Gov seems to think they existed for quite some time... you have proof otherwise? https://i.imgur.com/fzSG1YM.pngOr you guys too busy whacking off to Rebecca's pic to investigate, and would rather just troll? We all predicted the "unknown" asic companies secretly developing...and here they are... now you chastise the secret development, when it's a key component to any high tech business, and when it unfolded just as predicted? ABOUT US
Crypto Technology Systems, the team behind the CTS Miner, have been established in the microprocessor industry since 1975. CTS are an elite group formed internally from a world-class microprocessor engineering company at the forefront of Embedded controller design and manufacture, supplying products for a wide range of applications including Aircraft Testing, Remote Switchgear Operation, Stock Control, Instrumentation, Oil and Petrochemical Exploration, Marine Science and Environmental Control.
We have been following the cryptocurrency industry, and particularly Bitcoin mining, for the past year and a half. In May 2013, a team was put together to work on producing Bitcoin mining ASIC chips to be used in miners. Our small management team have had the backing of 50 full time microprocessor designers and engineers here in the UK. Over the past 8 months, we have worked tirelessly to build a group of products which outperform all competitors that will be available at a price which is un-matchable. The "Crypto Technology System" is not a subsidiary of "Cambridge Microprocessor System Limited". They are completely different entities. The first entity is fake and unregistered, while the later entity is real and registered. The people operating the first entity is misrepresenting the later entity. They are providing false information to instigate a false sense of confidence among potential customers victims. http://www.ctsminer.com/contact-us/Unit 17A
Chelmsford Road Industrial Estate
Great Dunmow
Essex
CM6 1XG
United Kingdom
Telephone: +44 1371 606056 http://www.cms.uk.com/cms_contact_us.htmlCambridge Microprocessor
Systems Limited
Unit 17, Zone D
Chelmsford Road Industrial Estate
Great Dunmow
Essex
CM6 1XG
United Kingdom
Telephone: +44 1371 606050
Facsimile: +44 1371 606051 The "Crypto Technology System" is using a very similar address and telephone number used by "Cambridge Microprocessor System Limited". Notice the slight difference is the zone letter for the address and the last digits for the telephone number. A research using domaintools.com Internet page shows the domain ctsminer.com was redirect from the IP address 185.8.106.66 to the IP address 199.188.201.252. In accordance with the above evidence, the Internet Page was host in the IP address 185.8.106.66 from 13rd January 2014 to 17th January 2014. An examination of the IP address 185.8.106.66 reveals some interesting results, such as: https://www.virustotal.com/en/ip-address/185.8.106.66/information/The WHOIS record on 19th January 2014 for the domain butterflyiab.com matches exactly with the WHOIS record on 12th January 2014 for the domain ctsminers.com: That means it is very likely the same person operating the domain ctsminers.com is also responsible for the domain butterflyiab.com. Both domains were first directed to a hosting service located in Lithuania. One domain is being used to perpetrate a fraudulent scheme and the other was registered to prey on people which misspell the official domain from Butterfly Labs. IT does not mean that the same person is operating both domains. It just means they used the same domain registration obfuscation service. Corporations do that in order to not give their competitors and clue as to what they are doing. I performed some ns lookups and IP geolocations: ctsminer.com resolves to 199.188.201.252 -> United States -> Los Angeles -> Namecheap cms.uk.com resolves to 94.136.40.103 -> United Kingdom -> Derby -> Webfusion Internet Solutions butterflylabs.com resolves to 141.101.123.48 -> United Kingdom -> London -> Cloudflare Cdn Network The fact that ctsminer.com & cms.uk.com are not hosted on the same server or even the same network is a little disconcerting, I must admit. But clearly nothing to do with butterfly labs. You are correct Butterfly labs has nothing to do with this. They also have nothing to do with the post you quoted. The URL in question is butterflyiabs.com note the i instead of an L. Did you see my post above directed at you ? Just curious if you can give me an answer. |
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January 25, 2014, 05:40:13 PM |
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It would be really easier to ask Rebecca some questions on this forum if some guys would not jump her like hungry dogs.
Maybe next time the horde will first ask questions first and then bite.
Always make me laugh when newbie, junior account defend scammers. Who are you to defend her? I like when new scam appear and then all hero memebers, and other with history on forum point scam and than bunch of newbie accounts, junior accounts defend scam by saying crap like above. Obvious scam is scam. |
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January 25, 2014, 05:45:41 PM |
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The next step should be to contact the real company at the real adress and ask them in person if they have something to do with those criminals
but someone who is not accepting fiat is not legit and forcibly supicious
btc is for customer protection they said,loool
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January 25, 2014, 05:49:17 PM |
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The next step should be to contact the real company at the real adress and ask them in person if they have something to do with those criminals
but someone who is not accepting fiat is not legit and forcibly supicious
btc is for customer protection they said,loool
they didn't say 'customer' protection.. they said 'protection' to protect them from the tax man, and from going to jail for fraud. |
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January 25, 2014, 05:56:09 PM |
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The next step should be to contact the real company at the real adress and ask them in person if they have something to do with those criminals
but someone who is not accepting fiat is not legit and forcibly supicious
btc is for customer protection they said,loool
they didn't say 'customer' protection.. they said 'protection' to protect them from the tax man, and from going to jail for fraud. By the way can someone contact bitpay in order to remove them from it thanks |
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January 25, 2014, 06:02:59 PM |
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They gave us a phone number. A couple international calls is all it'd take to resolve a lot of this.
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January 25, 2014, 06:03:53 PM |
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January 25, 2014, 06:05:26 PM |
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By the way can someone contact bitpay in order to remove them from it
They aren't using bitpay! Please refer to my earlier post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=429513.msg4720277#msg4720277It's just a QR code and an bitcoin address. It's totally untraceable. Would a legit business with 30 years experience set themselves up in such a criminal manner?? Oh and that bitcoin address appears to get newly generated each time a new order is placed. Totally legit, right?  |
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January 25, 2014, 06:08:06 PM |
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The next step should be to contact the real company at the real adress and ask them in person if they have something to do with those criminals
but someone who is not accepting fiat is not legit and forcibly supicious
btc is for customer protection they said,loool
That's exactly what I intend to do on Monday. |
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January 25, 2014, 06:16:13 PM |
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The next step should be to contact the real company at the real adress and ask them in person if they have something to do with those criminals
That's exactly what I intend to do on Monday. ...said the graphic designer...  again... http://FACEPALM |
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