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January 26, 2014, 01:35:27 AM |
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Still waiting for your proof of purchase maui. Also if you would be so kind as to post your KNC eBay sale that would go a long way to prove that you are not totally full of shit like I think you are.
hes working on it... be patient... but we're worried now too... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FPO7xoOX.png&t=665&c=T1CRyflGshAPTA)
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January 26, 2014, 01:40:20 AM |
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When you were doing all that vigorous research Phoenix/maui, did you look at CMS's product page? http://www.cms.uk.com/cms_products.htmlThe products they produce range in price from £25 - £95. The premises RickJames found on google seem appropriate for a small company producing products in that price range. Anyone who believes these is a 20nm production facility behind those doors needs their head examined. Just so they will know better the next time Phoenix/maui, this is what a fab facility looks like: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fww4.hdnux.com%2Fphotos%2F15%2F03%2F35%2F3422051%2F3%2F628x471.jpg&t=665&c=VfQnOlVtcTu0ag) Hell, I sell $20 cards by the thousands, my facility is much more impressive than either CMS shed. I could house fab stuff ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I should start an asic company.
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January 26, 2014, 01:41:20 AM |
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![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Reading this thread leads me to the following suggestion ..
How about we ask the 'mods' to stickie a new thread in "hardware" that lists all the hardware vendors that have been duly "vetted" by the community ?? By "vetted" I mean an equipment vendor that has infact delivered product .. It should include vendors for SHA-256 and Scrypt miners .. The list can be edited going forward as new vendors are vetted or old ones no longer qualify .. It would be a useful resource for the thread regulars and anyone looking to buy equipment from proven suppliers without having to spend days weeding thru the forums to get reliable info ..
Just an idea ..
Triff ..
Good idea....now get started on it...!
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January 26, 2014, 01:42:17 AM |
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I just googled cointerra and lo and behold this company came up as the first paid link:
Forget about Cointerra - Buy 20nm 5 TH/s Bitcoin Miners Now Adwww.ctsminer.com/ Worlds Most Powerful Bitcoin Miners CTS Miner has 970 followers on Google+
Searching for ctsminer led me here. After reading through this thread, I would not buy anything from them.
Wow! Same ad if you type in knc miner or butterflylabs! That's ridiculously smart! Makes sense... when you register the keywords, you can enter anything you want. wow. hehe not smart, we are all going to click that ad and they are going to have to pay google per click....let's all google search cointerra and click on this fraudsters pay per click ad.
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January 26, 2014, 01:43:27 AM |
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When you were doing all that vigorous research Phoenix/maui, did you look at CMS's product page? http://www.cms.uk.com/cms_products.htmlThe products they produce range in price from £25 - £95. The premises RickJames found on google seem appropriate for a small company producing products in that price range. Anyone who believes these is a 20nm production facility behind those doors needs their head examined. Just so they will know better the next time Phoenix/maui, this is what a fab facility looks like: edited out pic Hell, I sell $20 cards by the thousands, my facility is much more impressive than either CMS shed. I could house fab stuff ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I should start an asic company. Look back just a couple posts.... still looking for the facility
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January 26, 2014, 01:44:40 AM |
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When you were doing all that vigorous research Phoenix/maui, did you look at CMS's product page? http://www.cms.uk.com/cms_products.htmlThe products they produce range in price from £25 - £95. The premises RickJames found on google seem appropriate for a small company producing products in that price range. Anyone who believes these is a 20nm production facility behind those doors needs their head examined. Just so they will know better the next time Phoenix/maui, this is what a fab facility looks like: edited out pic Hell, I sell $20 cards by the thousands, my facility is much more impressive than either CMS shed. I could house fab stuff ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I should start an asic company. Look back just a couple posts.... still looking for the facility The picture I posted is the address they list on the website, it has the cms logo, and it is a shed.
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January 26, 2014, 01:44:56 AM |
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Reading this thread leads me to the following suggestion ..
How about we ask the 'mods' to stickie a new thread in "hardware" that lists all the hardware vendors that have been duly "vetted" by the community ?? By "vetted" I mean an equipment vendor that has infact delivered product .. It should include vendors for SHA-256 and Scrypt miners .. The list can be edited going forward as new vendors are vetted or old ones no longer qualify .. It would be a useful resource for the thread regulars and anyone looking to buy equipment from proven suppliers without having to spend days weeding thru the forums to get reliable info ..
Just an idea ..
Triff ..
That is an excellent suggestion form someone who is thinking of solutions. CTS Miner is certainly not "vetted", because they have shipped nothing. I just happen to think they will. Although I reserve the right to change my mind at ANY time. KNC was not vetted until people actually started receiving hardware. Once they did, then all the people who played it safe, placed their orders. The people who took a risk were rewarded. This is a risk, and hopefully I will be rewarded and not totally shafted.
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January 26, 2014, 01:46:03 AM |
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Ok well based on your screen shots I would have to say that you are not totally full of shit. Just very foolish Assuming they are not Photoshopped of course. A copy of the email that you received with the BTC payment address would have been much better as the blockchain cannot be faked.
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January 26, 2014, 01:49:53 AM |
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Hell, I sell $20 cards by the thousands, my facility is much more impressive than either CMS shed. I could house fab stuff ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I should start an asic company. Probably one of the only places in Europe that could produce 20nm chips is the Intel plants in Ireland. Just a little bigger than the CMS shed ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.finfacts.com%2Firelandbusinessnews%2Fuploads%2Fintelsept202007.jpg&t=665&c=s5HPVDScRHg9OQ) Intel- Fab 10, Fab 14 and Fab 24
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January 26, 2014, 01:52:10 AM |
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Still waiting for your proof of purchase maui. Also if you would be so kind as to post your KNC eBay sale that would go a long way to prove that you are not totally full of shit like I think you are.
Below are some pics of my orders from KNC & CTS Miner. As well as the message from ebay. They deleted both my listing because of the 30 day policy. I sold them both before eBay deleted them. Don't ask me for anything else, because you are not going to get it. If you don't believe me, I don't care. If you think CTS is a scam, then don't buy one. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlTkmJuQ.jpg&t=665&c=PWV00_1025xZfA) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FqO0n7B2.jpg&t=665&c=cSg-B5Bg85FWAg) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FATkR4GD.jpg&t=665&c=1ycp7m-d8DVvuw) BTW, I found another possible location, but it's so far from the road, that it way too blurry to read. It looks like the CMS logo, but really hard to tell. Look for it yourself. No you are a fraudster, eBay did not remove your listing because of a 30 day policy, they removed it as a fraud and scam to protect the buyers. It is right there in what you posted scammer.
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January 26, 2014, 01:52:49 AM |
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When you were doing all that vigorous research Phoenix/maui, did you look at CMS's product page? http://www.cms.uk.com/cms_products.htmlThe products they produce range in price from £25 - £95. The premises RickJames found on google seem appropriate for a small company producing products in that price range. Anyone who believes these is a 20nm production facility behind those doors needs their head examined. Just so they will know better the next time Phoenix/maui, this is what a fab facility looks like: edited out pic Hell, I sell $20 cards by the thousands, my facility is much more impressive than either CMS shed. I could house fab stuff ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I should start an asic company. Look back just a couple posts.... still looking for the facility The picture I posted is the address they list on the website, it has the cms logo, and it is a shed. That totally is there logo. I did not notice on the 1st look. It does look like a shed, made of bricks. But certainly not a fabrication facility. It is obviously just their office, but I must admit, am a little worried now. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FcDXx1fU.png&t=665&c=qjDGaIvO8J2DfQ)
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January 26, 2014, 01:58:54 AM |
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No you are a fraudster, eBay did not remove your listing because of a 30 day policy, they removed it as a fraud and scam to protect the buyers. It is right there in what you posted scammer.
Like I said. I don't care what you think. My buyers will get my pre-orders from KNC. I think you are just angry and like to come onto forums and attempt to get people in a tizzy by making false accusations, when those same people are only trying to share what they think with community.
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January 26, 2014, 02:01:52 AM |
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No you are a fraudster, eBay did not remove your listing because of a 30 day policy, they removed it as a fraud and scam to protect the buyers. It is right there in what you posted scammer.
Like I said. I don't care what you think. My buyers will get my pre-orders from KNC. I think you are just angry and like to come onto forums and attempt to get people in a tizzy by making false accusations, when those same people are only trying to share what they think with community. sure, too bad your fraud will not snare anyone in...as for pay click ad, it will soon owe $100s of dollars to google. Stop fraudsters, search google for cointerra, click the pay per click ad titled "Forget about Cointerra - Buy 20nm 5 TH/s Bitcoin Miners Now" and make them pay for their scamming attempts and if you see the google ad with the fake BFL address, click on that too, it is the same group of scammers.
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January 26, 2014, 02:02:54 AM |
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okay, here's the reason we cant find it yet.... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FB1lzpqq.png&t=665&c=oeP87sd4lahQmA)
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January 26, 2014, 02:04:36 AM |
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Yeah, hang on a minute. You added that eBay screenshot after I responded. I thought you sold them with the buy-it-now option as you stated. Both Neptunes sold in about a minute on ebay. Thank you.
And Both Neptunes sold in about a minute on ebay. Thank you.
Do you mind sharing the price you sold them for? Also how do you handle the trust issue? How do you make the buyer trust you that you will ship the miners after you receive them? Thank you. $16,500 and I think I was too low. I didn't do an auction. Just buy now button.
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January 26, 2014, 02:07:17 AM |
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Yeah, hang on a minute. You added that eBay screenshot after I responded. I thought you sold them with the buy-it-now option as you stated. Both Neptunes sold in about a minute on ebay. Thank you.
And Both Neptunes sold in about a minute on ebay. Thank you.
Do you mind sharing the price you sold them for? Also how do you handle the trust issue? How do you make the buyer trust you that you will ship the miners after you receive them? Thank you. $16,500 and I think I was too low. I didn't do an auction. Just buy now button. He did not sell anything on eBay...he tried to scam people but eBay caught on and removed the listing "to protect buyers" Where is the bitcoin payment for all these hardware so it can be checked in the block chain...not these phony orders. Obviously these 2 scammers are running that site, so they can show fake orders. The proof nees to be in the payment with bitcoin, which of course they can't produce...cannot manipulate that as easily as fake orders.
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January 26, 2014, 02:09:35 AM |
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Yeah, hang on a minute. You added that eBay screenshot after I responded. I thought you sold them with the buy-it-now option as you stated. Both Neptunes sold in about a minute on ebay. Thank you.
And Both Neptunes sold in about a minute on ebay. Thank you.
Do you mind sharing the price you sold them for? Also how do you handle the trust issue? How do you make the buyer trust you that you will ship the miners after you receive them? Thank you. $16,500 and I think I was too low. I didn't do an auction. Just buy now button. He did not sell anything on eBay...he tried to scam people but eBay caught on and removed the ad "to protect buyers" I think you need to chill and go vent your anger somewhere else. This topic is for something else.
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January 26, 2014, 02:13:55 AM |
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January 26, 2014, 02:18:39 AM |
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All the same stuff I pointed out earlier. If you click on, for example, the Embedded Controllers link, it goes to the Aitch8 etc.
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January 26, 2014, 02:19:37 AM |
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Yeah, hang on a minute. You added that eBay screenshot after I responded. I thought you sold them with the buy-it-now option as you stated. Both Neptunes sold in about a minute on ebay. Thank you.
And Both Neptunes sold in about a minute on ebay. Thank you.
Do you mind sharing the price you sold them for? Also how do you handle the trust issue? How do you make the buyer trust you that you will ship the miners after you receive them? Thank you. $16,500 and I think I was too low. I didn't do an auction. Just buy now button. He did not sell anything on eBay...he tried to scam people but eBay caught on and removed the ad "to protect buyers" I think you need to chill and go vent your anger somewhere else. This topic is for something else. So the scammers bought you for 0.1 btc? Kind of low price for protection. I suggest we all donate a bit to Cypher to go check them out.
lol avenger... It wasn't nearly what Mauiflipper experienced... but I certainly got a chuckle out of that.
I'll start...
Cypher... .1 btc on the way... cheers
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