⚒[CGA] Cryptographic Anomaly - The Elusive Coin⚒

[wzttide]

Hi, I want to describe to my account deposit. However, it gives the following error. 2 units have an account. In the other can do. Inside are coin.

http://mpos.cga.anomalypool.com/

Failed to update your account: Failed to update your account

I'm the owner of the pool. Please send me a PM about your problem, I don't quite understand what your problem is.

[polmax]

if not difficult, you can do it on the pool http://mpos.cga.anomalypool.com
Last 20 Blocks Found column Amount to increase the fractional part to 6 decimal places
and in the Dashboard in the block Prop Stats-CGA Estimates or Account Information output statistics - mining 24 hours

do I understand correctly? at the next update Block Reward will be
if(diff>3) Block Reward = 1/diff
that is, if the diff 16.589 Block Reward = 1/16.589 =0,06028....
if(diff<=3) Block Reward = 0.333333...
and will not Block Reward = 0?

[s4w3d0ff]

if not difficult, you can do it on the pool http://mpos.cga.anomalypool.com
Last 20 Blocks Found column Amount to increase the fractional part to 6 decimal places
and in the Dashboard in the block Prop Stats-CGA Estimates or Account Information output statistics - mining 24 hours

do I understand correctly? at the next update Block Reward will be
if(diff>3) Block Reward = 1/diff
that is, if the diff 16.589 Block Reward = 1/16.589 =0,06028....
if(diff<=3) Block Reward = 0.333333...
and will not Block Reward = 0?

After the coming update yes, that is how the reward will be.

[coin-cidence]

Hi, as a CGA huge fan I'm constantly voting on Cryptorush.in, when I started it had 150 votes and ~70 position now it has >1000 votes and 20 postition. If anybody has cryptorush account please help and vote 

[goodluck0319]

do u guys know how many coin I can mined with r9 290 (non x)? according to cointweak, I can get 1 BTC per month. do u know if that is correct or not?

[DarkAGeS]

do u guys know how many coin I can mined with r9 290 (non x)? according to cointweak, I can get 1 BTC per month. do u know if that is correct or not?

no, I think it will about 0,3-0,4 BTC per month

Does anybody know when normal web front-end for p2pool will be?..
like this http://asia01.mine.nu:8372/static/ that will show speed per address

[wzttide]

do u guys know how many coin I can mined with r9 290 (non x)? according to cointweak, I can get 1 BTC per month. do u know if that is correct or not?

no, I think it will about 0,3-0,4 BTC per month

Does anybody know when normal web front-end for p2pool will be?..
like this http://asia01.mine.nu:8372/static/ that will show speed per address

You mean something like that? http://anomalypool.com/static/graphs.html?Day

[DarkAGeS]

do u guys know how many coin I can mined with r9 290 (non x)? according to cointweak, I can get 1 BTC per month. do u know if that is correct or not?

no, I think it will about 0,3-0,4 BTC per month

Does anybody know when normal web front-end for p2pool will be?..
like this http://asia01.mine.nu:8372/static/ that will show speed per address

You mean something like that? http://anomalypool.com/static/graphs.html?Day

oh, at least like that, but its very unhandiness. Or can I limit the stats by only one wallet?

[DarkAGeS]

how can I watch or calculate CGA-net-hashrate?
can I roughly calculate my average day profit as

Code:

(my_hashrate / net_hashrate) x 200000/365

[Relnarien]

To summarize I like to invest, but right now I feel that apart from its uniqueness in the way it adjusts how an anomaly is found I don't understand the economical benefit of it yet.

I suppose you can call the coin a novelty. That's where the economic value lies. While the unpredictability of the block reward system does add an aspect of rarity to the coin, it does so in a way that is not economically relevant nor dependable. However, the coin's aspect of being "hard to mine" and the bragging rights that come with having one whole piece gives its speculators a false sense of value, which ultimately raises the coin's economic value. In that respect, CGA follows the same principle as Dogecoin -- recognition of the meme lead to mass acceptance which in turn lead to a relatively high economic value. Essentially, the more people want the coin, the higher its value. So the system s not economically beneficial in theory, but it is in practice. I want at least one whole piece of my own, that's for sure.

[DarkAGeS]

I search p2pool source for CGA. I find this post only https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=437950.msg4973973#msg4973973
Any progress from this time?

[0btc]

I search p2pool source for CGA. I find this post only https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=437950.msg4973973#msg4973973
Any progress from this time?

I've been meaning to finalize and announce this for a long time, but so far the p2pool CGA source is still experimental to me (mostly because of the lack of a proper SUBSIDY_FUNC). As such I put it in the experimental branch on https://github.com/0x0aNL/p2pool-0x0a/tree/experimental which you can clone with

Code:

git clone https://github.com/0x0aNL/p2pool-0x0a -b experimental p2pool-cga

[DarkAGeS]

I search p2pool source for CGA. I find this post only https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=437950.msg4973973#msg4973973
Any progress from this time?

I've been meaning to finalize and announce this for a long time, but so far the p2pool CGA source is still experimental to me (mostly because of the lack of a proper SUBSIDY_FUNC). As such I put it in the experimental branch on https://github.com/0x0aNL/p2pool-0x0a/tree/experimental which you can clone with

Code:

git clone https://github.com/0x0aNL/p2pool-0x0a -b experimental p2pool-cga

Thank you very mach! Do I understand correctly that existent p2pools for CGA (three on first page) based on this sources?
Can you explain more about problem with SUBSIDY_FUNC ?

Maybe you know answer on this question to?:

how can I watch or calculate CGA-net-hashrate?
can I roughly calculate my average day profit as

Code:

(my_hashrate / net_hashrate) x 200000/365

Thank you once again!

[DarkAGeS]

I'll do my best here to explain it from a technical point of view.
The block reward can either be 0 (zero) or 1 (one) CGA coin.

    1. The block reward is determined by first checking if the difficulty is above or below 3 (three). If it's BELOW 3, then go to the next step. If it's ABOVE 3, go to step 3.
    2. Divide the current block number by 3 (three), and check the remainder.
    2a.  If the remainder is equal to 0 (zero), then the block rewards one CGA coin. Done.
    2b.  If the remainder is not equal to 0 (zero), then the block does not reward any CGA. Done.
    3. Divide the current block number by the current difficulty, and check the remainder.
    3a.  If the remainder is LESS THAN 1 (one), then the block rewards one CGA coin. Done.
    3b.  If the remainder is NOT LESS THAN 1 (one), then the block does not reward any CGA. Done.

We know that the difficulty increases as the network's hashrate increases, so more mining will make this coin more elusive, but not impossible to find.
s4w3d0ff and others, please correct me if I am wrong. I hope this helps you understand the coin better!

can you explain step 3 more on the examples:
current block is 57452 and diff is 4.26714924
current block is 57453 and diff is 5.94869535

[s4w3d0ff]

I'll do my best here to explain it from a technical point of view.
The block reward can either be 0 (zero) or 1 (one) CGA coin.

    1. The block reward is determined by first checking if the difficulty is above or below 3 (three). If it's BELOW 3, then go to the next step. If it's ABOVE 3, go to step 3.
    2. Divide the current block number by 3 (three), and check the remainder.
    2a.  If the remainder is equal to 0 (zero), then the block rewards one CGA coin. Done.
    2b.  If the remainder is not equal to 0 (zero), then the block does not reward any CGA. Done.
    3. Divide the current block number by the current difficulty, and check the remainder.
    3a.  If the remainder is LESS THAN 1 (one), then the block rewards one CGA coin. Done.
    3b.  If the remainder is NOT LESS THAN 1 (one), then the block does not reward any CGA. Done.

We know that the difficulty increases as the network's hashrate increases, so more mining will make this coin more elusive, but not impossible to find.
s4w3d0ff and others, please correct me if I am wrong. I hope this helps you understand the coin better!

can you explain step 3 more on the examples:
current block is 57452 and diff is 4.26714924
current block is 57453 and diff is 5.94869535

57452 % 4.26714924 = 3.36978188 > 1 = No anomaly
57453 % 5.94869535 = 0.50030969999 < 1 = Anomaly

[brother3]

we consider adding this coin on start of our exchange, messaged the admin.

I got your message but I don't feel comfortable giving you "0.1 BTC" in CGA. This is because since the current price of CGA does not depict the true value of CGA, I would be giving you all my personal CGA so that you can dump it for 0.1 BTC... this would be very counter productive to the coin. Someone had sold CGA for 0.0999 before, and the current price is around 0.005. So I ask my self, how much do I give you, to put CGA on an exchange that is still being built? 1 CGA? 20 CGA? How do I know you just wont dump the coins and we never hear from you again? CGA is a prime target for scams right now because of the fluctuating price and there are so few in number. The potential price is through the roof.

And I have already expressed my opinion before about exchanges exploiting new coins for immediate profit (ie Cryptorush.in, tho they had recently changed their tactics to a voting system). I will say this again, if you feel that CGA will bring you profit in trade fees, then from a business point of view, you should add CGA free of charge. If an exchange that had absolutely no fees were to ask for a donation to add CGA then I would consider it.

Sorry if this isn't what you want to hear, but CGA has made it on 3(4) exchanges without the developer paying out of pocket. I am not going to start now, with an exchange that has yet to exist.

Love the reply 

[Cor2]

I've been meaning to finalize and announce this for a long time, but so far the p2pool CGA source is still experimental to me (mostly because of the lack of a proper SUBSIDY_FUNC). As such I put it in the experimental branch on https://github.com/0x0aNL/p2pool-0x0a/tree/experimental which you can clone with

Code:

git clone https://github.com/0x0aNL/p2pool-0x0a -b experimental p2pool-cga

Greetings from another Dutchman!
Is your pool SW different than tf2honeybadger's P2P pool at inceptioncraft.net?
Or are you using the same?
I have mined on that P2P pool a short while, but my miner did not reach the usual hash rate
due to the restarts for every new block detected, probably this is something unique for CGA P2P pool
since I rarely see a work restart on other pools.

[Cor2]

I'll do my best here to explain it from a technical point of view.
The block reward can either be 0 (zero) or 1 (one) CGA coin.

    1. The block reward is determined by first checking if the difficulty is above or below 3 (three). If it's BELOW 3, then go to the next step. If it's ABOVE 3, go to step 3.
    2. Divide the current block number by 3 (three), and check the remainder.
    2a.  If the remainder is equal to 0 (zero), then the block rewards one CGA coin. Done.
    2b.  If the remainder is not equal to 0 (zero), then the block does not reward any CGA. Done.
    3. Divide the current block number by the current difficulty, and check the remainder.
    3a.  If the remainder is LESS THAN 1 (one), then the block rewards one CGA coin. Done.
    3b.  If the remainder is NOT LESS THAN 1 (one), then the block does not reward any CGA. Done.

We know that the difficulty increases as the network's hashrate increases, so more mining will make this coin more elusive, but not impossible to find.
s4w3d0ff and others, please correct me if I am wrong. I hope this helps you understand the coin better!

can you explain step 3 more on the examples:
current block is 57452 and diff is 4.26714924
current block is 57453 and diff is 5.94869535

57452 % 4.26714924 = 3.36978188 > 1 = No anomaly
57453 % 5.94869535 = 0.50030969999 < 1 = Anomaly

Sawedoff,
I hope that I am wrong, but I think we have a problem in the current code....
For days I have been mining and noticed that all pools are paying *much* less than what I would expect from calculation,
so I decided to look into it more. First I checked how many blocks were found by pools to see if that would show that the
coin works as expected and what I saw is that the nr of found coins is *much* lower than can be expected from the
ratio between pool and network hash rates. I did take into account that the pool does *not* show blocks that have no reward,
the only blocks that you will see on a pool are the 1 CGA reward blocks and the blocks with 0 CGA but carrying TX fees (generally 0.001 CGA). What I would expect if the Diff is lower than 3, a pool should find 1/3 of the expected blocks with 1 CGA reward and an unknown nr with only TX fees but essentially the other 2/3 have 0 reward. If the diff is >3 then the pool should show on average a lower nr of blocks with 1 CGA reward and higher nr with no reward.
What I found was that even on the biggest pool (anomalypool) which has 2/3 of network hashing power, less than 10% of the blocks have 1 CGA reward, even though the diff is around 3 and you'd expect that more than 30% of the blocks carry a 1 CGA reward.
I verified with another smaller pool and a very honest pool operator, who did not know nor could explain why it regularly took more than 1000% of expected shares to find a block (with reward, since zero-reward blocks are not shown) and generally the stats were about 3 times lower in payout and finding then I could calculate.
Then I decided to take the test, grab a random block without reward (which can show up on the pool due to carrying 0.001 CGA TX fee)
and do the calculations for myself by hand. Take block with height 58,041 and verify the diff: 3.89795634
Now 58,041 % 3.89795634 = 0.43 !!!!
As far as I can see, this zero-reward block *should* have been rewarded with 1 CGA.
Can you verify the code that you are putting in the new release, because I am afraid that there is a bug in the CGA code so it does not pay out as expected and since network hash rate has gone up, we are seeing even fewer payouts, anomalies are not as much as calculated. My estimations are that we are seeing only half to as low as a third of the expected CGA rewards. That makes mining CGA unattractive...

[Cor2]

Sawedoff,
It appears that also for low diff there is a problem.
Take for example the block with height 57,996 with diff 0.8
57996/3 = 19332 so this is an Anomaly and
this block should have 1CGA reward, but the pool shows 0 reward (and a small TX fee)
I am afraid that many more blocks *should* have carried a reward, but incorrectly show 0 reward...
So, the earlier released description of the rewards is how it *should* have worked, but not what is actual...
That is the reason that there is such excessive times between finding a block with reward!
(and the fact that pool sw does not show the 0-reward blocks, you must be lucky to find an incorrect block
that is carrying TX fee so it shows up) All other truly 0-reward blocks found are invisible, so it is hard to see
that the algorithm is broken...

I hope you can release the new update soon where every block is rewarded with some CGA and not the faulty 0-or-1 CGA.

[DarkAGeS]

guys can you answer this question please
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=437950.msg5679715#msg5679715