[ANN][AUTO-SWITCH] Profit-switch auto-exchange pool: CleverMining.com

[Xenocyde]

I understand we can't switch other algorithms on a whim at the moment, but maybe devs should be looking into making a new miner that can support switching between several algorithms. I've seen SGMiner supports different kernels for normal scrypt and X11 scrypt, can it be that hard to code a miner that incorporates the most profitable algorithms?

[byt411]

I understand we can't switch other algorithms on a whim at the moment, but maybe devs should be looking into making a new miner that can support switching between several algorithms. I've seen SGMiner supports different kernels for normal scrypt and X11 scrypt, can it be that hard to code a miner that incorporates the most profitable algorithms?

I suppose it isn't too difficult to code CGWatcher, simply make its "profitable coin" chooser more accurate and fetch it from CoinWarz or WhatMine, and you could implement profiles with different settings and miners.

Wrong thread anyway, go start a new thread.

[Xenocyde]

It's not the wrong thread as long as we are discussing what the implementation of new scrypts in a pool imply. There are several people who would want multi-scrypt pools and Terk might be able to pull this one if we insist.

[byt411]

It's not the wrong thread as long as we are discussing what the implementation of new scrypts in a pool imply. There are several people who would want multi-scrypt pools and Terk might be able to pull this one if we insist.

Yeah. But to have a miner that can easily switch between coin algorithms has nothing to do with Terk.
That has more to do with the developers of SGMiner and such.
Again, if you can code, try coding the implementation I suggested into CGWatcher, and add a CGWatcher API.

[VirosaGITS]

Thats alot of hassle, if Terk goes down that way, it'd prolly be best if he just make a different pool for X11 or whatever. I'm not too fond of Scrypt-n. I'm expecting something potent to come by before the ASIC come parading down.

I have a fail-over script that could let me specify which algorithm to load for different address, so if the pool simply kick the miner, it'd failover to the new algo, but that would just not work for many, many reasons.

[solariis]

April 9, 2014 partial results after 19 hours: 0.00293 BTC/day per MH/s (70% LTC)
Ouch, I just can't do this anymore with continuously declining profits, gonna have to stick with mining scrypt-N coins and just hold while hoping they skyrocket in the future.

[inductiveconcepts]

If you guys are looking to mine Scrypt-N, now appears to be a good time. Not much money in pure Scrypt anymore.

We have a small Vertcoin pool, you are welcome to check it out.   

http://vertpool.inductiveconcepts.com

[Xenocyde]

Well something seems to be wrong, can't really have bad luck for 2 days in a row with LTC blocks.

Terk, how's the new update coming? We gonna get over 100% profitability any time soon?  

[JHammer]

Well something seems to be wrong. can't really have bad luck for 2 days in a row with LTC blocks.

Terk, how's the new update coming? We gonna get over 100% profitability any time soon?  

Yup..  WP kicking ass..  Heading there now..

[elpsycongro]

I think that it's high time to introduce scrypt-n and X11 coins to clever mining. These currencies show some good profits. Scrypt only coins start to struggle already.

I like the idea of adding SCRYPT-N and/or X11!

I support the X11 introduction as well.

A lot of people have been saying that.
What you must understand, is that you can't simply "add coins" of another algorithm into a scrypt pool.
CleverMining would have to have seperate pools: CleverMining Scrypt, CleverMining Scrypt-N, and CleverMining X11.
You simply cannot switch between different algorithms using the same miner. If you are mining Scrypt and a X11 coin is the most profitable, CleverMining cannot make your miner switch algorithm.

Terk hasn't even properly finished programming the current pool.

You are absolutely correct! I have no idea how difficult it is to set up a second pool for lets say SCRYPT-N in parallel to the existing Pool. Maybe the program code for determining the most profitable coin at the moment could be re-used for SCRYPT-N? I kind of like the idea to mine Vertcoin for example and get auto-paid in BTC. As far as I know no pool offers this at the moment.... this would be a unique feature 

@Terk: I am fairly new to mining (around 1 month) and would like to take the opportunity to say thank you for your pool! I tried a lot pools during the last month but I most enjoy mining here!

coin solver does this already but the profit is way less than scrypt so its not worth it currently  , could be they are just bad at choosing the most profitable scryp-n coin so terk might have an advantage here.

[zneww]

I think that it's high time to introduce scrypt-n and X11 coins to clever mining. These currencies show some good profits. Scrypt only coins start to struggle already.

I like the idea of adding SCRYPT-N and/or X11!

I support the X11 introduction as well.

A lot of people have been saying that.
What you must understand, is that you can't simply "add coins" of another algorithm into a scrypt pool.
CleverMining would have to have seperate pools: CleverMining Scrypt, CleverMining Scrypt-N, and CleverMining X11.
You simply cannot switch between different algorithms using the same miner. If you are mining Scrypt and a X11 coin is the most profitable, CleverMining cannot make your miner switch algorithm.

Terk hasn't even properly finished programming the current pool.

You are absolutely correct! I have no idea how difficult it is to set up a second pool for lets say SCRYPT-N in parallel to the existing Pool. Maybe the program code for determining the most profitable coin at the moment could be re-used for SCRYPT-N? I kind of like the idea to mine Vertcoin for example and get auto-paid in BTC. As far as I know no pool offers this at the moment.... this would be a unique feature 

@Terk: I am fairly new to mining (around 1 month) and would like to take the opportunity to say thank you for your pool! I tried a lot pools during the last month but I most enjoy mining here!

coin solver does this already but the profit is way less than scrypt so its not worth it currently  , could be they are just bad at choosing the most profitable scryp-n coin so terk might have an advantage here.

Not so sure about _way_ less then scrypt. I've been getting around what I would be getting on scrypt at the CoinSolver Scrypt-N beta pool.. Look here for more information about it. If you check out www.whatmine.com the #3 & #6 Coins on there are most profitable are Scrypt-N coins, being SPA and GPU.

How many scrypt-n coins do you think there are? You also have to exchange these, so they have to have volume at the markets. Just because it says its profitable doesn't mean you can actually sell at that price.

Also, the hash is low so they can't mine VTC yet.

[raveneye]

April 9, 2014 partial results after 19 hours: 0.00293 BTC/day per MH/s (70% LTC)
Ouch, I just can't do this anymore with continuously declining profits, gonna have to stick with mining scrypt-N coins and just hold while hoping they skyrocket in the future.

Have you seen NiceHash is paying 0.0055 right now?
http://www.nicehash.com/

[patlaka2000]

If the things don't turn around, there will be no users left mining at clever until the end of the month. 

[pieran]

April 9, 2014 partial results after 19 hours: 0.00293 BTC/day per MH/s (70% LTC)
Ouch, I just can't do this anymore with continuously declining profits, gonna have to stick with mining scrypt-N coins and just hold while hoping they skyrocket in the future.

Have you seen NiceHash is paying 0.0055 right now?
http://www.nicehash.com/

Gave it a quick try, but got 100% rejects.....

I guess atm all multipools struggle a bit and P2Pool mining seems the most profitable...

[patlaka2000]

For nicehash you must configure sgminer in order not to have rejects....sgminer works far better by the way.

[elpsycongro]

I think that it's high time to introduce scrypt-n and X11 coins to clever mining. These currencies show some good profits. Scrypt only coins start to struggle already.

I like the idea of adding SCRYPT-N and/or X11!

I support the X11 introduction as well.

A lot of people have been saying that.
What you must understand, is that you can't simply "add coins" of another algorithm into a scrypt pool.
CleverMining would have to have seperate pools: CleverMining Scrypt, CleverMining Scrypt-N, and CleverMining X11.
You simply cannot switch between different algorithms using the same miner. If you are mining Scrypt and a X11 coin is the most profitable, CleverMining cannot make your miner switch algorithm.

Terk hasn't even properly finished programming the current pool.

You are absolutely correct! I have no idea how difficult it is to set up a second pool for lets say SCRYPT-N in parallel to the existing Pool. Maybe the program code for determining the most profitable coin at the moment could be re-used for SCRYPT-N? I kind of like the idea to mine Vertcoin for example and get auto-paid in BTC. As far as I know no pool offers this at the moment.... this would be a unique feature 

@Terk: I am fairly new to mining (around 1 month) and would like to take the opportunity to say thank you for your pool! I tried a lot pools during the last month but I most enjoy mining here!

coin solver does this already but the profit is way less than scrypt so its not worth it currently  , could be they are just bad at choosing the most profitable scryp-n coin so terk might have an advantage here.

Not so sure about _way_ less then scrypt. I've been getting around what I would be getting on scrypt at the CoinSolver Scrypt-N beta pool.. Look here for more information about it. If you check out www.whatmine.com the #3 & #6 Coins on there are most profitable are Scrypt-N coins, being SPA and GPU.

How many scrypt-n coins do you think there are? You also have to exchange these, so they have to have volume at the markets. Just because it says its profitable doesn't mean you can actually sell at that price.

Also, the hash is low so they can't mine VTC yet.

i mined there a few days and my payouts were about 50% of what i get with regular scrypt , rejects were almost 0% its just not as profitable yet.

[elpsycongro]

April 9, 2014 partial results after 19 hours: 0.00293 BTC/day per MH/s (70% LTC)
Ouch, I just can't do this anymore with continuously declining profits, gonna have to stick with mining scrypt-N coins and just hold while hoping they skyrocket in the future.

Have you seen NiceHash is paying 0.0055 right now?
http://www.nicehash.com/

Gave it a quick try, but got 100% rejects.....

I guess atm all multipools struggle a bit and P2Pool mining seems the most profitable...

yeah 100% rejects ....

edit , i switched to sgminer and its taking shares lol still i dont trust it too much ill keep it as an option
also they have their own thread so we should stop commenting about another pools here,  go here instead https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=562238.0

[Courtjester]

lol I said ages ago this pool was a complete scam

it still is lol @ 70% LTC profitability for 3 days

lol lol lol what a scam pool

[byt411]

lol I said ages ago this pool was a complete scam

it still is lol @ 70% LTC profitability for 3 days

lol lol lol what a scam pool

It's not a scam, but Terk, seriously, what is going on with the profitability???

[Xenocyde]

lol I said ages ago this pool was a complete scam

it still is lol @ 70% LTC profitability for 3 days

lol lol lol what a scam pool

You clearly lurk somewhere in the past, profitability is over 100% now.