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Author Topic: ChangeNow.io (Evercode Lab) - Scam. Illegally holding of 100 BCH (11 bitcoins).  (Read 33900 times)
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September 07, 2018, 07:10:48 PM
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>The evidence points to selective scamming

No evidence also, just suspicion


> but giving them the benefit of the massive doubt they need to clarify the whole situation with the AML/KYC and the threshold that makes it mandatory to send ID to them.

Agree. Will be waiting for their clarification
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September 07, 2018, 07:27:15 PM
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There is no proof Interpol or anybody else asked changenow for blocking and seizing control of crypto.
I doubt any legit company would share information about which law enforcement agency requested customer data.

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There is no proof Interpol or anybody else asked changenow for blocking and seizing control of crypto.
I doubt any legit company would share information about which law enforcement agency requested customer data.
I'm sorry but what law enforcement agency?  what legit company?

this is their "company"
https://postimg.cc/image/i8a8z5nj5/
https://postimg.cc/image/odwzy37rl/
https://postimg.cc/image/b52djluz5/
https://postimg.cc/image/9d9eoze9t (the page was removed a 5 weeks ago)
https://postimg.cc/image/6j69bhmdd/ (the founders were changed 3 weeks ago; the office was abandoned, new address of the office is secret)

and this ChangeNOW.io Evercode Lab - Scam. Defamation. Abuses. Threats - Russian Business

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September 07, 2018, 07:36:55 PM
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There is no proof Interpol or anybody else asked changenow for blocking and seizing control of crypto.
I doubt any legit company would share information about which law enforcement agency requested customer data.
Oh god what law enforcement agency?  what legit company?

this is their "company"
https://postimg.cc/image/i8a8z5nj5/
https://postimg.cc/image/odwzy37rl/
https://postimg.cc/image/b52djluz5/
https://postimg.cc/image/9d9eoze9t (the page was removed a 5 weeks ago)
https://postimg.cc/image/6j69bhmdd/ (the founders were changed 3 weeks ago)

and this ChangeNOW.io Evercode Lab - Scam. Defamation. Abuses. Threats - Russian Business


I see you have no more arguments and can not maintain a dialogue
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September 07, 2018, 08:03:36 PM
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There is no proof Interpol or anybody else asked changenow for blocking and seizing control of crypto.
I doubt any legit company would share information about which law enforcement agency requested customer data.

I have the same doubts. Something about changenow does not seem right.

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September 09, 2018, 12:49:12 PM
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just read it. it is a matter of great shame that scammers sum is growing day by day. Sad
For this, i am afraid of giving personal information or doing kyc.
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September 09, 2018, 01:01:17 PM
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To be very honest the whole financial world is like gambling. Its a full of people who does not want to produce nothing to the society.
So some of the players will lose and some players will win.
If you want more then you lose it all.
Yes sometimes you win but then you might lose it all.
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just read it. it is a matter of great shame that scammers sum is growing day by day. Sad
For this, i am afraid of giving personal information or doing kyc.

I will never give or send ID to these "companies". You have no idea who they are and what their real intentions are after they get your ID in their hands.

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September 09, 2018, 01:32:27 PM
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Companies can open other companies with your ID.
They can get the loans line of credit and tax return.
But most dangerous to send their id is for usa/canada and australia people.
For europe and uk its quite safe and russia and eastern europe its safe as for africans.
But at the end of the day its all not real world !!
Only real things are your friends  your family your health.
So those things all are just fiction.
You are not your ID put you are real physical person.
You are not your bank account or btc wallet you are you you are real humen with soul and real life.
This is how it is.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5884885/Criminals-peddle-stolen-fake-UK-travel-documents-social-media-little-800.html

"When the Mail tracked down a shocked Mr Nicolson, from Windsor, Berkshire, he said: ‘It’s disturbing. I’m an innocent victim of something that is becoming a pandemic.’

It is unclear when Mr Nicolson’s details were taken. He has been abroad six times in the past year – to St Tropez twice, Paris, Sicily, Abu Dhabi and Dubai.

In Sicily and Abu Dhabi he had to hand over his passport at the hotel, but not on the other trips and he didn’t use it for anything such as car hire.

He keeps his passport locked in his desk drawer at home when he doesn’t have it with him. Other than that, he used his passport when enquiring about car finance two weeks ago and for a mortgage renewal on a buy-to-let three months ago."


So when you give your passport copies to anybody they might be a front to a bigger fraud. Some of these people might takes IDs for legitimate reasons but front line employees might have links to criminals so send them off the fraudsters for money.

Be very careful when sending your ID to anybody. If people are setting up ICOs to scam millions of USD from investors then exchanges are also being set up with a view to playing long games befor ethey run off with your money and ID.

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September 09, 2018, 02:19:48 PM
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System is pretty much fcked and corrupted all the ways.
But other then just someone use your idendenty to travel what kind of harm it can do for the id real owner?
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Second, Using someone else's indentity is under any circumstances prohibited and punishable by law.
I did not do anything like that. I did not even mention any name or surname. I just sent a picture from google images to them(to suspicious bucket shop). And I did it by accident. I told them about it. It happened by itself. It happens - I was nervous.

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Third, They are an exchange and there's no way you can run such without complying to legal regulations; there'll be KYC/AML policies
But I'm sure it's not. They are few dishonest people who make money from home.
Where is the confirmation that they are exchanger company? Where is their license, where are they physically located? They are just scammers, who are covered by some laws. And thanks to this, they apparently hope to appropriate this money to themselves (70 thousand dollars - a successful hunt, is not it?).
Or maybe you think that if they seized this money they will give it ... I do not know .... to the police? Really? Smiley They just leave them to themselves and you perfectly know it.


I don't find any terms and conditions on the site did you agreed anything before?
At the very bottom of the left. But it's interesting that at the start of the exchange the site does not offer to agree with the user agreement.
You don't take your funds seriously! If you send someones photo instead of yours, they are not a scam. You just not identify yourself as known person. Or you don't want identify yourself because of criminal activities.
And you don't take cryptocurrency exchange seriously. Is the same if you don't take Binance seriously. YOU ARE GUILTY IN YOUR TROUBLES!  https://twitter.com/MichaelcMcKee/status/1038507195833442304
I have make mistake with twitter account age verification, they blocked my account and asking to upload ID copy, and of course i upload it and they unblock my account. You better make video verification to get your funds back!
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September 09, 2018, 07:51:37 PM
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System is pretty much fcked and corrupted all the ways.
But other then just someone use your idendenty to travel what kind of harm it can do for the id real owner?

If someone has a cloned passport as well as residential proof such as photographic drivers licence they can do harm to the unsuspecting victim in many ways.

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who spent his money to promote this on bitcointalk?
I mean seriously?

It was promoted by the person who got scammed. Yes seriously.

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September 10, 2018, 12:54:59 PM
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ChangeNOW.io’s Public Statement: Our Stance on AML/KYC

ChangeNOW.io has been on the market for more than a year now and has earned a reputation of a reliable service with great rates and an amazing support team. We have made a good amount of partnerships with big exchanges, wallets, and exchange aggregators.

We can say that our service has come a long way: what used to be a tiny anonymous exchanger is now a big resource with more than 150 supported coins. We have also partnered with a service which allows fiat-to-crypto purchases, are constantly connecting additional exchanges and still are far from done.

Our service is constantly growing and ever evolving, and we tend to take the rules and requirements of the market concerning the activity of cryptocurrency services really seriously.

A number of changes has been made; for instance, we had dropped our anonymity back in April and implemented AML/KYC at the same time in order to comply to the requirements of exchanges, regulators, and legal authorities.

We are aware of the fact that for a certain part of the crypto community this might be upsetting, and we understand them completely - we are all children of Satoshi Nakamoto, after all.

However, we’ve always favored fair play, which is why we updated our policies and accepted the new way of life.

We would like to release a statement to keep the community updated on our workflow and the development of our service. We believe it’s our duty to the crypto community as a whole and our clients in particular to be transparent about our operations and to let everyone know what’s going on under the hood, so to say; this is especially relevant in the light of current events, that have shown us that we need to provide our customers with more information about ChangeNOW.

So, here’s the matters that are taking place at the time of writing this:

One of our customers has been carrying out a full-blown defamation campaign to harm ChangeNOW’s reputation and ruin our operations.

As a service, we are constantly growing, subsequently attracting more and more attention. We do our best to reply to every tweet and every single message we get, since we find it really great that the community trusts us and is willing to discuss our platform.

Unfortunately, this amount of attention means that trolls are bound to show up. We can’t stand it when our clients have problems and/or misunderstandings, therefore we try our hardest in order to make our platform as transparent as possible.

Let’s get back to AML and KYC for a little bit.

KYC stands for Know Your Customer. AML is for Anti-Money Laundering.

Cryptocurrencies are often considered to be used for illegal operations that allow you to withdraw money from the shadows. In order to prevent this, it is necessary to take measures to ensure customer verification and security of financial transactions.

KYC/AML policy is used in many countries. The main scope of its usage are the activities related to the conduct of questionable transactions.

States are doing everything possible to control and limit the activities of such organizations, and to introduce them into the framework of the law. The KYC/AML policy remains the most common method for this. Its application convinces the regulatory authorities of the absolute legality of the transaction carried out by you.

Thus, you confirm that you are a law-abiding citizen and the state has no reason to address any claims towards you.

You can read some info on KYC and AML here:

http://business.rediff.com/report/2010/oct/18/perfin-why-kyc-is-mandatory-now.htm

https://www.quora.com/What-is-a-difference-between-KYC-and-AML

https://aml-cft.net/conduct-proper-customer-due-diligence-cdd/

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2017/692/pdfs/uksi_20170692_en.pdf

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/aml.asp

http://www.fatf-gafi.org

ChangeNOW’s KYC procedure is no different from that of any other crypto exchanger.


Our risk management system can define a transaction as suspicious based on a certain set of criteria, among which are the size of a transaction, the wallet address, the funds’ origin, etc.

When the RMS sends us a suspicious transaction alert, we handle the case manually. Our support team does their best to make the procedure as quick and painless for the client as possible.

Here’s how it goes:

As we’ve already stated, each KYC case is handled individually. We will apply a set of standard procedures to our KYC clients, among which are asking a client to send a minimal set of documents that will allow us to confirm their identity and provide the source of funds. If we still have questions to the client, we might ask them for a face-to-face conversation via a video call.

This procedure is the best practice around the market and most reputable exchanges, exchangers, and other crypto-related services follow it. We in particular have several KYC cases a month, and usually they tend to get resolved quickly (mostly because our clients are great!)

So, why are we telling you all this?


We have decided to make this information public in order to give the community some insight on what we have already done so that the entire process is more understandable and transparent; also, we want to get our company’s position across.

Without a doubt, we are deeply chagrined by the fact that one client has been trying his best to ruin our lives.

We are ready to admit that our transparency policy is still a work in progress regarding the KYC procedure: we have expanded our FAQ, adding a special section on AML and KYC (available here: r/https://changenow.io/faq#kyc), as well as a notification and a link to our AML/KYC info. As we grow, we are going to add more tweaks and features to to our website for convenience of our users.

Some people might really do have things to hide, and, as we respect their privacy, we believe that such clients have the right to be informed about the fact that they might be asked for identification.

We aren’t going to keep this client’s funds. They’re stored on a cold wallet created specifically for his case.

We are going to continue our operations as honestly, transparently, and conveniently for those of our clients who, just like us, respect the law and are ready to follow the rules of the market.

We won’t let shady blackmailers spoil our and our customers’ joy from the crypto market’s development and are ready to do whatever it takes to make sure the market is free of crooks.

What about the case described in this statement and what are we planning to do next?


The client in question is surely going to continue his activities on the Internet.

We, in turn, are preparing legal claims which we are going to submit to Interpol, Europol, and other authorities, along with the info we have on the client and the cold wallet address on which the funds are kept for the time being. After that we are going to wait for their official reply. In no circumstances are we going to keep this user’s funds for ourselves.

ChangeNOW is going to keep the community updated on the situation because we stand for all things that are good and against all things that are bad.


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September 10, 2018, 01:07:03 PM
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ChangeNOW.io’s Public Statement: Our Stance on AML/KYC

ChangeNOW.io has been on the market for more than a year now and has earned a reputation of a reliable service with great rates and an amazing support team. We have made a good amount of partnerships with big exchanges, wallets, and exchange aggregators.



You are not a company. You are just bunch of cowards from Russia who work illegally there and afraid of Russian authorities:

https://postimg.cc/image/i8a8z5nj5/
https://postimg.cc/image/odwzy37rl/
https://postimg.cc/image/b52djluz5/
https://postimg.cc/image/9d9eoze9t (the page was removed a 5 weeks ago)
https://postimg.cc/image/6j69bhmdd/ (the founders were changed 3 weeks ago; the office was abandoned, new address of the office is secret)

and ChangeNOW.io Evercode Lab - Scam. Defamation. Abuses. Threats - Russian Business



You are just ridiculous and not one sane person can take you seriously.

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Last edit: September 10, 2018, 02:34:16 PM by JollyGood
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@changenow

Stop this pathetic conduct. In the end regardless of what the OP did or what you did the status quo suits you because you are the one holding 110 BCH that does not belong to you. Why are you copying the same Medium post here?

In your 1+ year of entering this business how many others have you done the same thing to? Why ask for ID after you receive the funds? If the amount was too big to exchange without AML/KYC your automated system should have given a JS pop up alert or any alert at the same time as the address was generated so the customer could have made an informed choice.

I fully support the OP in this matter. If you are a bonafide business why are you behaving like scammers? Others including myself believe this to be selective scamming where you allow many of the trades to go through without hassle but decide to select a few large trades to try to scam. In this case the OP gave you all the negative publicity you deserve. Full credit to him for spending even more money on paid ads to inform us all about your business.

To resolve this situation you should return the 110 BCH to the same address you received it from. Please do it, thank you.

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A number of changes has been made; for instance, we had dropped our anonymity back in April and implemented AML/KYC at the same time in order to comply to the requirements of exchanges, regulators, and legal authorities.
Enlighten me: which regulators allow you to ask KYC for certain transactions without specifying when this will happen? This sounds a lot like selective scamming to me.

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Our risk management system can define a transaction as suspicious based on a certain set of criteria, among which are the size of a transaction, the wallet address, the funds’ origin, etc.
And your legal authorities accept a "risk management system" instead of an airtight KYC system that requires KYC from all customers like any legit exchange would do?

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One of our customers has been carrying out a full-blown defamation campaign to harm ChangeNOW’s reputation and ruin our operations.
I know of at least 2 large cases. But so far you've pretty much ignored the PrivCoin case.
It looks like you scammed the wrong guy.

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We are ready to admit that our transparency policy is still a work in progress regarding the KYC procedure: we have expanded our FAQ, adding a special section on AML and KYC (available here: r/https://changenow.io/faq#kyc), as well as a notification and a link to our AML/KYC info. As we grow, we are going to add more tweaks and features to to our website for convenience of our users.
If you admit this, how about you return the funds you took to the sender?

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We, in turn, are preparing legal claims which we are going to submit to Interpol, Europol, and other authorities
Lol Cheesy

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In no circumstances are we going to keep this user’s funds for ourselves.
How about you send it to a trusted escrow on this forum?


Did you know crossposting the same post on many boards is against the rules?

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Could you kindly tell us your official phone numbers and registered address, wherever it is that you operate from? Surely, as a non-anonymous exchange, you wouldn't be operating anonymously, would you? I would like to know who I am sending my personal identification to, and I am sure the op feels the same way too. You must admit that nobody in their right mind would send their data to an anonymous company.

For example, these are the two exchanges I use, and I wouldn't hesitate to send them my ID's. This, because I know that if anything goes wrong, my lawyers can find them. I cannot find any information for Changenow outside their support ticket and telegram.

Coinbase
San Francisco (HQ)
United States
548 Market St #23008 94104
+1 888 908-7930 (US/Intl)
0808 168 4635 (UK)

Bittrex
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800 5th Avenue
Ste. 4100
Seattle, WA 98104-3100
+1(888)-474-0472
+33 9 77 55 47 75

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A number of changes has been made; for instance, we had dropped our anonymity back in April and implemented AML/KYC at the same time in order to comply to the requirements of exchanges, regulators, and legal authorities.
Enlighten me: which regulators allow you to ask KYC for certain transactions without specifying when this will happen? This sounds a lot like selective scamming to me.

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Our risk management system can define a transaction as suspicious based on a certain set of criteria, among which are the size of a transaction, the wallet address, the funds’ origin, etc.
And your legal authorities accept a "risk management system" instead of an airtight KYC system that requires KYC from all customers like any legit exchange would do?

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One of our customers has been carrying out a full-blown defamation campaign to harm ChangeNOW’s reputation and ruin our operations.
I know of at least 2 large cases. But so far you've pretty much ignored the PrivCoin case.
It looks like you scammed the wrong guy.

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We are ready to admit that our transparency policy is still a work in progress regarding the KYC procedure: we have expanded our FAQ, adding a special section on AML and KYC (available here: r/https://changenow.io/faq#kyc), as well as a notification and a link to our AML/KYC info. As we grow, we are going to add more tweaks and features to to our website for convenience of our users.
If you admit this, how about you return the funds you took to the sender?

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We, in turn, are preparing legal claims which we are going to submit to Interpol, Europol, and other authorities
Lol Cheesy

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In no circumstances are we going to keep this user’s funds for ourselves.
How about you send it to a trusted escrow on this forum?


Did you know crossposting the same post on many boards is against the rules?

Your points are laid out very elegantly. I see now reason why changenow would be behaving in this manner except that to apply their selective scamming rule to the OP.

Changenow have certainly messed about with the wrong person. They never expected him to pay for adverts so that he could expose these scammers.

Full respect to the OP for having such a big heart that even after suffering the loss for 11 BTC he decided to pay to expose changenow just for the sake of the community so others cannot get ripped off.

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