[ANN] Blacknet BLN | Staking | Future of zApp & ZeFi

[micryon]

Anyhow, IF we see BlackCoin starting up a large Wave 3 here soon expect the rally to be far larger than the Wave 1 we just saw (and Wave 1 more or less took us from 5k to 95k, or an 1800% return). A large Wave 3 could easily take us to 400k (a 1900% return) and potentially much higher due to the ridiculous strength and speed of Wave 1.

I don't believe in any kind of chart analysis as a predictor... but I do believe in your fundamentals statement: coin has shown it has good value as a crypto currency for the original purpose Bitcoin was intended for: except done more efficiently and faster.  And there's no mining inflation... But I actually also like NXT for the same reason (also an investor in NXT).

Short term, BC is still not known by many, yet.. and the benefits of BC not understood by many.. This will change over time, but until that time where it reaches a broader audience, it will be difficult to sustain the interim valuations we saw from past few days.. That said, long term I'm a believer in this coin.

[gpools]

Anyhow, IF we see BlackCoin starting up a large Wave 3 here soon expect the rally to be far larger than the Wave 1 we just saw (and Wave 1 more or less took us from 5k to 95k, or an 1800% return). A large Wave 3 could easily take us to 400k (a 1900% return) and potentially much higher due to the ridiculous strength and speed of Wave 1.

I don't believe in any kind of chart analysis as a predictor... but I do believe in your fundamentals statement: coin has shown it has good value as a crypto currency for the original purpose Bitcoin was intended for: except done more efficiently and faster.  And there's no mining inflation... But I actually also like NXT for the same reason (also an investor in NXT).

Short term, BC is still not known by many, yet.. and the benefits of BC not understood by many.. This will change over time, but until that time where it reaches a broader audience, it will be difficult to sustain the interim valuations we saw from past few days.. That said, long term I'm a believer in this coin.

+1

[alison03]

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hey guys i am holden a large amount bc. how i can save this 100% safe?
any ideas?


do you think this site is serious? http://paperwallet.ga/BlackCoin/

just save your wallet.dat on an usb stick, and/or on another pc so if your pc crashes you still have your coins

you do not want this file (wallet.dat) on an computer connected to the internet or it could be compromised!!

is there specific, for a newbie, steps on how to get it off? I have saved that file to usb sticks, but don't know what to do now.

Mac? PC? Linux? You need to find the directory that holds the original wallet.dat file to remove it. This is the exact same process for a Bitcoin wallet when using the Qt client. There are plenty of tutorials out there to access your wallet file for the Bitcoin-Qt. Same procedure, same directory, but for BlackCoin-Qt folder

I'm on a Mac. I've actually never had the bitcoin-qt downloaded before (the blackcoin-qt is my first and only). I didn't realize I could find a bitcoin tutorial and have it be the same process as this one. I will go try to dig around!

Since you are on a mac you will need to start by pulling aside the veil...to look into your system files. Here's a link to a tutorial that shows you how to show-all files:
http://krypted.com/mac-os-x/mavericks-show-hidden-files/
Next, open finder and go the the home "user" tab... you should see a greyed out "Library" folder. Look inside, find "Application Support." Inside you will find the "BlackCoin-Qt" folder which contains your wallet.dat file. If you were backing up a Bitcoin wallet I would suggest saving the blockchain too (because its a huge file - 17+ gbs - and its a pain in the ass to download).
BUT, since you are dealing with BlackCoin the blockchain is new and very small. So, just worry about wiping your computer of that "wallet.dat" file  
Best of luck to you and your stash of coin!

thank you so so so much!!!

[STT]

The latest pool payout seems to have messed up a bit.   Its stated payout is about 15x what it actually sent to my wallet.

Anyone else getting that disparity

[digicidal]

The latest pool payout seems to have messed up a bit.   Its stated payout is about 15x what it actually sent to my wallet.

Anyone else getting that disparity

I got exactly what it shows on the front page sent to my wallet.  Are you sure you're looking at the right transaction?  Should be ~15.4BC/Mh/s.

[dr.octopus]

Anyhow, IF we see BlackCoin starting up a large Wave 3 here soon expect the rally to be far larger than the Wave 1 we just saw (and Wave 1 more or less took us from 5k to 95k, or an 1800% return). A large Wave 3 could easily take us to 400k (a 1900% return) and potentially much higher due to the ridiculous strength and speed of Wave 1.

I don't believe in any kind of chart analysis as a predictor... but I do believe in your fundamentals statement: coin has shown it has good value as a crypto currency for the original purpose Bitcoin was intended for: except done more efficiently and faster.  And there's no mining inflation... But I actually also like NXT for the same reason (also an investor in NXT).

Short term, BC is still not known by many, yet.. and the benefits of BC not understood by many.. This will change over time, but until that time where it reaches a broader audience, it will be difficult to sustain the interim valuations we saw from past few days.. That said, long term I'm a believer in this coin.

our main goal first is to be on top 3 no1 BTC no2 LTC and no3 BC... but how? if we even cant beat AUR which i believe was left by many...

[digicidal]

Anyhow, IF we see BlackCoin starting up a large Wave 3 here soon expect the rally to be far larger than the Wave 1 we just saw (and Wave 1 more or less took us from 5k to 95k, or an 1800% return). A large Wave 3 could easily take us to 400k (a 1900% return) and potentially much higher due to the ridiculous strength and speed of Wave 1.

I don't believe in any kind of chart analysis as a predictor... but I do believe in your fundamentals statement: coin has shown it has good value as a crypto currency for the original purpose Bitcoin was intended for: except done more efficiently and faster.  And there's no mining inflation... But I actually also like NXT for the same reason (also an investor in NXT).

Short term, BC is still not known by many, yet.. and the benefits of BC not understood by many.. This will change over time, but until that time where it reaches a broader audience, it will be difficult to sustain the interim valuations we saw from past few days.. That said, long term I'm a believer in this coin.

our main goal first is to be on top 3 no1 BTC no2 LTC and no3 BC... but how? if we even cant beat AUR which i believe was left by many...

NO (or at least it shouldn't be). Our main goal is to be a stable, secure, and useful means of exchange and store of value.  The rest is what comes with proving the first.

[STT]

s on the front page sent to my wallet.  Are you sure you're looking at the right transaction?  Should be ~15.4BC/Mh/s.

Shows Profitability (BC/MH)  14.43
for me

Next is Blackcoin Sent and its not what I received and it was the same timestamp, so..

Its not a massive deal, Im not a full time miner just thought I'd mention it

[brim]

BlackCoin has super strong. Go on~~~

[micryon]

our main goal first is to be on top 3 no1 BTC no2 LTC and no3 BC... but how?

Agree that's an important goal... however I believe a more fundamental metric that we should drive is not the price, but the coin/wallet distribution.  That is something more controllable than the price.

This coin has the advantage of not having a mining inflation dump.. in fact it has the opposite via reverse multi-pool.

So really.. the *only* thing we really need to do at this point is to promote and let more people know about this coin.  If each of us just told 10 persons about this coin (and maybe even give them 1 BC to encourage them to download a wallet)... and hopefully they will tell their friends.  Use facebook, twitter, reddit, youtube videos.. other forums to spread the info on the internet.. Then the value of the coin will rise by itself.  People will see the value.

Other thing is we should leverage the advantage that Blackcoin has in terms of service compatibility.. get it on all exchanges, all wallets: android/ios/web.. get it everywhere so everyone can get access to it.

if we even cant beat AUR which i believe was left by many...

Well.. depends on how you calculate AUR, coinmarketcap recently adjusted AUR, and it's now at #28 based on current float coins instead of total available coins.  (I'm a holder of AUR as well).  

[futile-resistance]

Anyhow, IF we see BlackCoin starting up a large Wave 3 here soon expect the rally to be far larger than the Wave 1 we just saw (and Wave 1 more or less took us from 5k to 95k, or an 1800% return). A large Wave 3 could easily take us to 400k (a 1900% return) and potentially much higher due to the ridiculous strength and speed of Wave 1.

I don't believe in any kind of chart analysis as a predictor... but I do believe in your fundamentals statement: coin has shown it has good value as a crypto currency for the original purpose Bitcoin was intended for: except done more efficiently and faster.  And there's no mining inflation... But I actually also like NXT for the same reason (also an investor in NXT).

Short term, BC is still not known by many, yet.. and the benefits of BC not understood by many.. This will change over time, but until that time where it reaches a broader audience, it will be difficult to sustain the interim valuations we saw from past few days.. That said, long term I'm a believer in this coin.

our main goal first is to be on top 3 no1 BTC no2 LTC and no3 BC... but how? if we even cant beat AUR which i believe was left by many...

What do you mean by beating Auroracoin? AUR is sitting at 28th in market cap ($1 million) based on number of publicly available coins and it has a $49,000 market volume. After the drop BC is sitting at #9 in market cap ($10 million) with $3 million in market volume.

http://coinmarketcap.com/

I realize these numbers aren't everything. Maybe you mean something else. AUR is a really neat concept, not intending to coin bash.

[dr.octopus]

Anyhow, IF we see BlackCoin starting up a large Wave 3 here soon expect the rally to be far larger than the Wave 1 we just saw (and Wave 1 more or less took us from 5k to 95k, or an 1800% return). A large Wave 3 could easily take us to 400k (a 1900% return) and potentially much higher due to the ridiculous strength and speed of Wave 1.

I don't believe in any kind of chart analysis as a predictor... but I do believe in your fundamentals statement: coin has shown it has good value as a crypto currency for the original purpose Bitcoin was intended for: except done more efficiently and faster.  And there's no mining inflation... But I actually also like NXT for the same reason (also an investor in NXT).

Short term, BC is still not known by many, yet.. and the benefits of BC not understood by many.. This will change over time, but until that time where it reaches a broader audience, it will be difficult to sustain the interim valuations we saw from past few days.. That said, long term I'm a believer in this coin.

our main goal first is to be on top 3 no1 BTC no2 LTC and no3 BC... but how? if we even cant beat AUR which i believe was left by many...

NO (or at least it shouldn't be). Our main goal is to be a stable, secure, and useful means of exchange and store of value.  The rest is what comes with proving the first.

i've said that because i think no.1 we are stable now no.2 we are also secure...  nobody cant stop what you call the P&Ds because we are on trading... you cannot tell anyone or somebody who will buy Bc at cheap prices and sold at high prices of course everybody is doing that... but what really happens is a whale or group bought at low price high volume maybe starts at 9k then wait for the peak they wanted probly 70-80's then they leave.. so us (mostly) little ones were left stuck at 6-7 since they sold and never come back or probly waiting another buildup then they will buy again.. correct me if im wrong but thats what i think what happen

and i admit i did a mistake for putting a buy order and then sleep and woke up it was filled at 70 but price is at 36. that was a huge mistake for me though im just a very very tiny shrimp with only 1 btc hoping to double it in BC but its ok .. i am in crypto and i understand anything can happen anytime...

[futile-resistance]

our main goal first is to be on top 3 no1 BTC no2 LTC and no3 BC... but how?

Agree that's an important goal... however I believe a more fundamental metric that we should drive is not the price, but the coin/wallet distribution.  That is something more controllable than the price.

This coin has the advantage of not having a mining inflation dump.. in fact it has the opposite via reverse multi-pool.

So really.. the *only* thing we really need to do at this point is to promote and let more people know about this coin.  If each of us just told 10 persons about this coin (and maybe even give them 1 BC to encourage them to download a wallet)... and hopefully they will tell their friends.  Use facebook, twitter, reddit, youtube videos.. other forums to spread the info on the internet.. Then the value of the coin will rise by itself.  People will see the value.

Other thing is we should leverage the advantage that Blackcoin has in terms of service compatibility.. get it on all exchanges, all wallets: android/ios/web.. get it everywhere so everyone can get access to it.

if we even cant beat AUR which i believe was left by many...

Well.. depends on how you calculate AUR, coinmarketcap recently adjusted AUR, and it's now at #28 based on current float coins instead of total available coins.  (I'm a holder of AUR as well).  

I still think a good goal would be to introduce new miners to the multipool at this point. Maybe we could make a cleaner looking blackcoin-themed GUI miner (we could take out the stratum/host/port stuff to help simplify it a bit too). Maybe set up the clients for "known hardware configs"?

If we could make the pool, literally, the simplest and easiest way to make money on the internet... well, I think that would be a good start.

edit: Are there plans to add cpu coins to the pool? I realize they're not really profitable. But it's much easier to set up a cpu mining program (basically just needs threads) and would be better for introducing noobies.

[dr.octopus]

Anyhow, IF we see BlackCoin starting up a large Wave 3 here soon expect the rally to be far larger than the Wave 1 we just saw (and Wave 1 more or less took us from 5k to 95k, or an 1800% return). A large Wave 3 could easily take us to 400k (a 1900% return) and potentially much higher due to the ridiculous strength and speed of Wave 1.

I don't believe in any kind of chart analysis as a predictor... but I do believe in your fundamentals statement: coin has shown it has good value as a crypto currency for the original purpose Bitcoin was intended for: except done more efficiently and faster.  And there's no mining inflation... But I actually also like NXT for the same reason (also an investor in NXT).

Short term, BC is still not known by many, yet.. and the benefits of BC not understood by many.. This will change over time, but until that time where it reaches a broader audience, it will be difficult to sustain the interim valuations we saw from past few days.. That said, long term I'm a believer in this coin.

our main goal first is to be on top 3 no1 BTC no2 LTC and no3 BC... but how? if we even cant beat AUR which i believe was left by many...

What do you mean by beating Auroracoin? AUR is sitting at 28th in market cap ($1 million) based on number of publicly available coins and it has a $49,000 market volume. After the drop BC is sitting at #9 in market cap ($10 million) with $3 million in market volume.

http://coinmarketcap.com/

I realize these numbers aren't everything. Maybe you mean something else. AUR is a really neat concept, not intending to coin bash.

what i mean is bc is more popular than aur right now ... aur price is 0.001 when it started i think but bc never reaches that so we never beat aur.. like drk its very quiet but its price is 0.001 ... so i wrote we need to beat all these alts to make it at no.3 ... because many says we will replace btc.. bc is a replacement of btc but how if we cannot top the altcoins first..

i still believe bc lacks something .. we have the strong and great community as you say... but we are missing something secret ingredient

[micryon]

I still think a good goal would be to introduce new miners to the multipool at this point. Maybe we could make a cleaner looking blackcoin-themed GUI miner (we could take out the stratum/host/port stuff to help simplify it a bit too). Maybe set up the clients for "known hardware configs"?

If we could make the pool, literally, the simplest and easiest way to make money on the internet... well, I think that would be a good start.

Yeah that's a great idea as well.  Mining is a way for coin distribution and getting people to know about BC...

It is always best to make it easier for people to adopt.  Hardest thing about these cryptos is getting someone to even install a wallet.. People pay $4 / install for stupid android apps.. so .. if we can get more people to install or mine, that's value right there.

[Jeezy911]

Auroracoin wont even be a player long term. 50% premine country coins are a joke.

[virtualfaqs]

Anyhow, IF we see BlackCoin starting up a large Wave 3 here soon expect the rally to be far larger than the Wave 1 we just saw (and Wave 1 more or less took us from 5k to 95k, or an 1800% return). A large Wave 3 could easily take us to 400k (a 1900% return) and potentially much higher due to the ridiculous strength and speed of Wave 1.

I don't believe in any kind of chart analysis as a predictor... but I do believe in your fundamentals statement: coin has shown it has good value as a crypto currency for the original purpose Bitcoin was intended for: except done more efficiently and faster.  And there's no mining inflation... But I actually also like NXT for the same reason (also an investor in NXT).

Short term, BC is still not known by many, yet.. and the benefits of BC not understood by many.. This will change over time, but until that time where it reaches a broader audience, it will be difficult to sustain the interim valuations we saw from past few days.. That said, long term I'm a believer in this coin.

our main goal first is to be on top 3 no1 BTC no2 LTC and no3 BC... but how? if we even cant beat AUR which i believe was left by many...

What do you mean by beating Auroracoin? AUR is sitting at 28th in market cap ($1 million) based on number of publicly available coins and it has a $49,000 market volume. After the drop BC is sitting at #9 in market cap ($10 million) with $3 million in market volume.

http://coinmarketcap.com/

I realize these numbers aren't everything. Maybe you mean something else. AUR is a really neat concept, not intending to coin bash.

what i mean is bc is more popular than aur right now ... aur price is 0.001 when it started i think but bc never reaches that so we never beat aur.. like drk its very quiet but its price is 0.001 ... so i wrote we need to beat all these alts to make it at no.3 ... because many says we will replace btc.. bc is a replacement of btc but how if we cannot top the altcoins first..

i still believe bc lacks something .. we have the strong and great community as you say... but we are missing something secret ingredient

Need more publicity and convince other altcoin holders to jump on board.

[dr.octopus]

Anyhow, IF we see BlackCoin starting up a large Wave 3 here soon expect the rally to be far larger than the Wave 1 we just saw (and Wave 1 more or less took us from 5k to 95k, or an 1800% return). A large Wave 3 could easily take us to 400k (a 1900% return) and potentially much higher due to the ridiculous strength and speed of Wave 1.

I don't believe in any kind of chart analysis as a predictor... but I do believe in your fundamentals statement: coin has shown it has good value as a crypto currency for the original purpose Bitcoin was intended for: except done more efficiently and faster.  And there's no mining inflation... But I actually also like NXT for the same reason (also an investor in NXT).

Short term, BC is still not known by many, yet.. and the benefits of BC not understood by many.. This will change over time, but until that time where it reaches a broader audience, it will be difficult to sustain the interim valuations we saw from past few days.. That said, long term I'm a believer in this coin.

our main goal first is to be on top 3 no1 BTC no2 LTC and no3 BC... but how? if we even cant beat AUR which i believe was left by many...

What do you mean by beating Auroracoin? AUR is sitting at 28th in market cap ($1 million) based on number of publicly available coins and it has a $49,000 market volume. After the drop BC is sitting at #9 in market cap ($10 million) with $3 million in market volume.

http://coinmarketcap.com/

I realize these numbers aren't everything. Maybe you mean something else. AUR is a really neat concept, not intending to coin bash.

what i mean is bc is more popular than aur right now ... aur price is 0.001 when it started i think but bc never reaches that so we never beat aur.. like drk its very quiet but its price is 0.001 ... so i wrote we need to beat all these alts to make it at no.3 ... because many says we will replace btc.. bc is a replacement of btc but how if we cannot top the altcoins first..

i still believe bc lacks something .. we have the strong and great community as you say... but we are missing something secret ingredient

Need more publicity and convince other altcoin holders to jump on board.

thats 1... and i hope you are getting my point of view

[digicidal]

Anyhow, IF we see BlackCoin starting up a large Wave 3 here soon expect the rally to be far larger than the Wave 1 we just saw (and Wave 1 more or less took us from 5k to 95k, or an 1800% return). A large Wave 3 could easily take us to 400k (a 1900% return) and potentially much higher due to the ridiculous strength and speed of Wave 1.

I don't believe in any kind of chart analysis as a predictor... but I do believe in your fundamentals statement: coin has shown it has good value as a crypto currency for the original purpose Bitcoin was intended for: except done more efficiently and faster.  And there's no mining inflation... But I actually also like NXT for the same reason (also an investor in NXT).

Short term, BC is still not known by many, yet.. and the benefits of BC not understood by many.. This will change over time, but until that time where it reaches a broader audience, it will be difficult to sustain the interim valuations we saw from past few days.. That said, long term I'm a believer in this coin.

While I partially agree with you (as far as technical analysis) - it actually is accurate enough much of the time to be very useful.  In exactly the same way that studying history is useful, or psychology for that matter - because ultimately almost anything considered valuable in this world (especially crypto currencies) has little to no intrinsic value - the obvious exceptions being food, water, and shelter.  Everything else is people - so although you can debate the validity of a particular statistical or technical theory - you can't debate the fact that people are creatures of habit, the broad majority of which spend their lives following the herd.

Simply being involved in crypto currencies at this point means you're slightly more of a maverick and less of a sheep - but the 'follower' mentality is alive and well.

If stocks, currencies, and even consumer goods were purchased only based on their fundamentals - you would never be able to trade for profit.  Well, you could, but it would be as boring as following Warren Buffet's trades (note that I didn't say you couldn't make money investing that way - but you won't trading per se).

On the other hand if you look at almost anything that has the same situation as crypto currencies - even just pop culture 'properties' like Britney Spears or Justin Bieber, or a TV show like Mad Men or CSI.... it actually follows a very similar pattern.  

Does the following describe a coin, country, celebrity, band, and/or creative product?:

1- Nearly complete obscurity.
2- Tiny cult following.
3- Moderate press coverage and some public notoriety.
4- Moderate money infusion, marketing, and popularity.
5- Disillusionment of cult followers & mass popularity.
6- Explosive growth and notoriety.
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7- Crisis of control - loss of popularity.
8- Replacement by similar property currently at step 4.
9- Return to obscurity.
                 -or-
7- Adaptation to current prevailing trends.
8- Universal notoriety and adoption.
9- Nominal reduction in growth but sustains value long-term.


(* And I completely agree with you on the fundamentals of BC, of course *)

[Subtuppel]

edit: Are there plans to add cpu coins to the pool? I realize they're not really profitable. But it's much easier to set up a cpu mining program (basically just needs threads) and would be better for introducing noobies.

Yeah, the addition of CPU mining coins would be great. I got several Xeon E3 1240v3 mostly idling around, letting them work with scrypt cpu miner would be nonsense if i am not wrong. Or did that thing improve?