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Its simple math.
Iconic buys some 5$ printed Bc cards. Tells hes very much doing what he promises. Meanwhile makes a load on profits on the card scheme. Then announces the Wall street event right after that, where people can donate. People WILL donate because he proofs hes a likeable guy with some glamour pictures of wallets that costed him a few bucks. Hooray, another profit.
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morituri13
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May 06, 2014, 04:44:24 PM |
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Pat Byrne says he doesn not know of NXT in this interview. Somewhat misleading. |
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May 06, 2014, 04:45:05 PM |
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Guys, if those cards arrive, I would be seriously careful about them. Who knows what kind of shit he could have pre-loaded onto them. Use them at your own risk IMO. If anything this outburst today has seriously raised questions about his moral integrity.
pffff. maby the umbrella has gps on it....so they know when your leaving the house, and they can steal your laptop. maby the original wallet is fake.... Yea this is the new FUD now.."when the cards come be careful"... So WHEN they show up they don't have any other arguments, so they will try to scare people from using it... I will say again...what kind of innocent person tries to distract people from the truth. And I am still waiting for Maarx to publicly say I am lying...It's a BOMB! |
All my XST coins are stolen  feel free to donate some XST to RzPMCaQxjxCNCyw2eiYsLqU2MWe45vFfLU I really appreciate that! |
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May 06, 2014, 04:45:12 PM |
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We are back to the India fud? That was debuncted on Saturday...try again To be honest I reckon the cards will all arrive. I'm more concerned about the conspiracy theories YOU come up with especially as they now involve me! But YOU are not answering any of my questions. I wonder why? I would agree and tbh I'm not concerned about the cards. I'll let that one play out. I am however more concerned at IE's lack of honesty and deliberate avoidance of key issues and questions HE started and raised.... The libellous comments about me he has refused to acknowledge or answer. And the way he has spoken about and treated you. It becomes clear that he will go for "easy targets" but once he goes for people that are more than capable of defending themselves, because they have done no wrong, he ignores them as "done business". And refunds.... they're coming when? or have you already cashed out the takings? as you said yourself. Hard to replace coins when they're in fiat. He is a liar and a fraud and now quite possibly a criminal as well. |
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May 06, 2014, 04:45:25 PM |
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Guys, if those cards arrive, I would be seriously careful about them. Who knows what kind of shit he could have pre-loaded onto them. Use them at your own risk IMO. If anything this outburst today has seriously raised questions about his moral integrity.
pffff. maby the umbrella has gps on it....so they know when your leaving the house, and they can steal your laptop. maby the original wallet is fake.... Yea this is the new FUD now.."when the cards come be careful"... So WHEN they show up they don't have any other arguments, so they will try to scare people from using it... I will say again...what kind of innocent person tries to distract people from the truth. And I am still waiting for Maarx to publicly say I am lying...He has responded to your claims on blackcoin reddit. |
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May 06, 2014, 04:46:47 PM |
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Guys, if those cards arrive, I would be seriously careful about them. Who knows what kind of shit he could have pre-loaded onto them. Use them at your own risk IMO. If anything this outburst today has seriously raised questions about his moral integrity.
pffff. maby the umbrella has gps on it....so they know when your leaving the house, and they can steal your laptop. maby the original wallet is fake.... Yea this is the new FUD now.."when the cards come be careful"... So WHEN they show up they don't have any other arguments, so they will try to scare people from using it... I will say again...what kind of innocent person tries to distract people from the truth. And I am still waiting for Maarx to publicly say I am lying...He has responded to your claims on blackcoin reddit. I want Maarx to post it here.... |
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May 06, 2014, 04:48:11 PM |
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lol, thanks for the link but did you even read that article ? |
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May 06, 2014, 04:49:30 PM |
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I don't post much but I will say this about the coin.
If it survives the next couple of days. We have one hell of a coin here.
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If you are going to leave your BTC on an exchange please send it to this address instead 1GH3ub3UUHbU5qDJW5u3E9jZ96ZEmzaXtG, I will at least use the money better than someone who steals it from the exchange. Thanks  |
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May 06, 2014, 04:49:35 PM |
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Soepkip or whoever is in charge of the BlackCast: Quick suggestion: I think you should really allow those who have been accused of being fake accounts of some people (I don't even f*ing know who), because there are a lot of these people now (including myself) to tune in during the next BlackCast, even if for a few seconds and share a few thoughts on BlackCoin. I'd really appreciate to have the opportunity to prove the point that not every single person who doesn't instantly buy into these stories must, without a doubt, be fake accounts... Otherwise, I am not really seeking attention. After all, we're currently seeing how that kind of behaviour plays out.  Thank you. Hi Amigdala, this will probably get burried, but there will be future Blackcasts.. and I guess we will be pushing a site that people can use to get in the cast..  |
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May 06, 2014, 04:50:06 PM |
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lol, thanks for the link but did you even read that article ? Yep! And i was veeery upset that I did'nt read the word "blackcoin" in the whole article  On the other hand I read the word "NXT" more than 15times  |
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May 06, 2014, 04:50:50 PM |
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I don't post much but I will say this about the coin.
If it survives the next couple of days. We have one hell of a coin here.
Antonio this thread is responsible for very little of the actual BC community. It will very easily survive this. |
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May 06, 2014, 04:50:55 PM |
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The "Foundation" started this war. Their immature actions led us to where we are now. I never fully understood why they were against Iconic, The Wall Street event, and now the BlackCoin card. Iconic pushes for this community and for our success and these guys always go against them. At first I was thinking they were jealous but now I see is much more than that. HOW CAN SOMEONE THAT SUPPORTS THIS COMMUNITY BE AGAINST A GUY THAT SHOWS RESULTS; PROPOSES IDEAS AND FIGHTS FOR THEM? ?ARE YOU ALL FUCKING BLIND OR WHAT??? ICONIC IS PUSHING FOR ALL OF US BUT GUYS LIKE SOEPKIP AND GRITT WANT ALWAYS TO BASH IT DOWN.ASK YOURSELVES: WHY They don't support officially the Wall Street Event? THE MOST EPIC EVENT EVER IN THE CRYPTO WORLD??BUNCH OF SCAMBAGS! |
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May 06, 2014, 04:51:11 PM |
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I was going to buy into DRK today but bought black instead Welcome to BLK Where is the proof to any of your accusations? Stop changing the topic you weasel. What the hell are you talking about? You just posted a link to my post history? I hate to repeat myself but here it goes... Where is the proof to any of your accusations? Stop changing the topic you weasel. Do we want proof? i think when we see proof of this....the price drops.... something is happend behind the scene..... maarx will answer quistions on irc. why not here in this forum. IE asked him .... am i right? didn''t see a aswer. +1 What is the question. ? http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/24vbsz/iama_maarx_project_manager_community_manager_part/Or ask it here, plain and clear, I will answer (but this: Warning - while you were typing 72 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post. ) The post will be buried, so I prefer reddit |
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May 06, 2014, 04:51:29 PM |
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The Group Behind The Daily Dumping
veritasBS, colinfx, TheBlackDogeOfWallStreet, morituri13, Soepkip, Gritt, and vizique
What I am about to write will without a doubt cause a rift within our community , but I feel this is something I must do to protect the investment of innocent people who believe in BlackCoin. I ask everyone whether you support me or not, to carefully read and analyze my words without prejudice.
When I first started to participate in this community I was enthusiastic to be part of a community that is inspiring and full with enthusiasm. If you look at my earlier posts from March and early April and compare them to my most recent posts you can clearly see a stark difference. Some people have been wondering if my "ego" has gotten out of control, or if something else is at play.
For a few weeks I have known about a coordinated effort to suppress the price of BC. I have hinted numerous times about this suppression, but I did not make it officially public because of the ramifications it would have on this community. I thought with the help of others I could stop or at the very least greatly diminish this suppression without letting the general public know, unfortunately we were unsuccessful.
veritasBS, colinfx, TheBlackDogeOfWallStreet, morituri13, Soepkip, Gritt, and vizique and a few others are all responsible for manipulating the price of BlackCoin for several weeks.
Their group owns roughly 10% of the total supply of BlackCoins. Apparently this is not enough for them and they want more. They decided since they cannot mine BC anymore they would use their supply of coins to keep the price down and buy coins from people cashing out. With the volume we previously had and other factors, this would have been a very slow process. So they came up with the idea of the multi-pool. They would trick everyone into thinking the multi-pool would help stabilize the price of BC, but instead they were using the multi-pool to obtain significant amounts of BC while using their supply to keep the price down. They were able to "dump" their coins, and use the multi-pool to buy more without a loss. Why do you think so much focus is on the multi-pool? The multi-pool is the key to their plan working, and the plan worked flawlessly until I came into the picture.
I had no clue at the time any of this was occurring when I started promoting BC. If you look at my early posts before anyone really "knew" me, there were early attempts to stop me from promoting BC, why? Why would anyone want to stop me from promoting BC? Because any extra buy pressure would interfere with what they are currently doing.
I quickly became a thorn in their side because any extra attention I brought to BC interfered with their sell walls and that was a problem for them. So at every step they have been there to stop me from promoting BC. I started getting suspicious after the second press release but I assumed it was just "jealousy". I didn't become aware of this plan until after I announced the BlackCoin card. I was contacted by someone in their inner circle who was "pissed" about some issue they had, so he "snitched". He gave me just enough information to start putting everything together. My attitude changed from that day because I realized we could have been trading well above the price at the time if it wasn't for them.
So I went on the offensive and started making announcements everyday to keep the buy pressure up. I formed my own group and combined we have over 6 million BC. I had to make sure there was a counter "force" to what they were doing. Our attempts to suck up their BC with minor pumps failed multiple times. So I backed the public pump which I felt would finally stop them. However, I did not anticipate the outrage from the community and I back away because I knew one day I might have to make this announcement and my credibility would need to remain intact.
Around that time I was contacted again by another smaller group that also figured out what was occurring. Their plan was to attack the multi-pool and slow them down. I did not condone this tactic because of the legal ramifications, so I declined to take part in it. However, I did use that opportunity to push news to attempt to break their walls, unfortunately I failed.
I finally realized the only way I could stop them if I organized an event so huge even their sell walls would not be able to hold up. At this time I already knew Seopkip was loosely involved but I had to give the impression I was not aware of anything, so I presented the idea to him knowing they would find some way to put it on hold. At first their was talks of funding it so I would not go to the community, but I knew that was BS. Their plan was to keep me waiting while they came up with a plan to take away from the Wall Street event. I knew my time was running out so I announced the Wall Street event before they could kill it.
What did they do? They sent Gritt to post that comment on the article to take away some steam. Then they started to slowly organize a campaign against me to finally kill my efforts. When the CoinDesk article went live on Friday they decided to announce the PR firm campaign. That night it wasn't the CoinDesk article that made the price go up, it was them. I knew they were letting the price go up to make it seem their PR firm announcement was causing "excitement". So I took credit for the price increase to take away some of the "effectiveness" of their plan. That really pissed them off because they wanted to convince the community the PR idea was having a positive effect.
The PR firm is complete bullsh!t. They created the PR firm stunt to take donations away from Wall Street. They knew the community would want to support both ideas and the funds will be split. They also knew I would ask questions, and that would be their signal to attack me. They made it seem I was "jealous" and wanted "attention". Their plan is to slow the news down, and they will tell everyone the PR firm is working on ideas and it will take time to see results. This is just a stall tactic while they continue to accumulate cheap BC.
They noticed I was still getting donations so Colinfx came up with his "match your donation" campaign to take away any remaining attention from Wall Street. Haven't you noticed how much they have posting and spamming lately? Notice how they want everyone to go to Reddit and BlackCoinTalk? If you look before Friday they rarely posted in this forum. It is their way to hijack the "message".
Now please ask yourself these questions:
Why didn't they support the Wall Street event and try to kill it?
Why didn't they spam the CoinDesk article and get the news out?
Why haven't they sent out any press releases since the last release the community sent?
Why has their focus always been on the multi-pool?
Why did they announce their PR firm project around the same time as the CoinDesk news?
Why is Colinfx so willing to match donations?
Why didn't they make a big deal out of being added to Vault Of Statoshi?
Just look at all their promotional efforts, it revolves around the multi-pool.
Now you can believe me or you can think this is some lame attempt at a coup to take over, but please start asking yourself who has been dumping steadily all these weeks and why?
I felt this was my last option because after today they would be unstoppable. I was faced with a hard decision to make. If I did not say anything people will continue to be ripped off. If I do say something my revelation might cause investors to lose faith in the coin. So I did not make this decision without giving it a lot of thought and time.
This is not a signal to start dumping coins! Do not start dumping your coins!
rat4 and maarx are not directly involved in this plot. rat4 is only interested in making BC awesome, and maarx didn't fully understand what was going on behind the scenes.
Now that everyone knows what is going on behind the scenes we can be proactive at putting an end to this fraud, there is no reason to dump. We know exactly who is behind the sell pressure and there are ways to stop it. I have a group of members who are active in this community and they are ready to hit the ground running. I promise everyone that if you follow the plan I am about to layout we will finally skyrocketing by the end of Summer.
1. rat4 denounces the group and pledges to support the community in whatever decision is made.
2. Soepkip and Gritt resigns from the official dev team.
3. Members of this community stop mining on the multi-pool immediately.
4. veritasBS, colinfx, TheBlackDogeOfWallStreet, morituri13, Soepkip, Gritt, and vizique all agree to not dump further until 60 days from now. They provide us with their public addresses so we can monitor them.
5. The group refunds all the donations received for the PR firm bullsh!t
6. The community picks someone to be the spokesperson for the dev team. (It cannot be me because I hold too much BC). It has to be someone that does not have a substantial amount of BC, but have the experience to help rat4.
Let me make it clear there is no need to dump. There is demand for the coin and the fact they have been applying sell pressure proves it. If we put a stop to them we will be back on track to being the #1 coin. Throughout the day people will come forward to offer their services and help, we can build a stronger team. The fact I did not dump my coins should give you comfort that I still believe in BC. All we have to do is get rid of the rotten few that have been suppressing our growth and we will succeed.
 Have fun posting FUD...I am leaving for a few hours because this is pointless like this past weekend. I will leave it to the smart people to figure out who is telling the truth and who is lying. |
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May 06, 2014, 04:52:03 PM |
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Guys, if those cards arrive, I would be seriously careful about them. Who knows what kind of shit he could have pre-loaded onto them. Use them at your own risk IMO. If anything this outburst today has seriously raised questions about his moral integrity.
pffff. maby the umbrella has gps on it....so they know when your leaving the house, and they can steal your laptop. maby the original wallet is fake.... Yea this is the new FUD now.."when the cards come be careful"... So WHEN they show up they don't have any other arguments, so they will try to scare people from using it... I will say again...what kind of innocent person tries to distract people from the truth. And I am still waiting for Maarx to publicly say I am lying...He has responded to your claims on blackcoin reddit. I want Maarx to post it here.... afraid of getting downvoted by the much larger community ? dude its fucking over for you |
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May 06, 2014, 04:52:56 PM |
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Guys, if those cards arrive, I would be seriously careful about them. Who knows what kind of shit he could have pre-loaded onto them. Use them at your own risk IMO. If anything this outburst today has seriously raised questions about his moral integrity.
pffff. maby the umbrella has gps on it....so they know when your leaving the house, and they can steal your laptop. maby the original wallet is fake.... Yea this is the new FUD now.."when the cards come be careful"... So WHEN they show up they don't have any other arguments, so they will try to scare people from using it... I will say again...what kind of innocent person tries to distract people from the truth. And I am still waiting for Maarx to publicly say I am lying...It's a BOMB! "The group" has not plotted to surpress the price by dumping. Some of them have helped to break 80k though (enthusiastically), but they were burned hard.
http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/24vbsz/iama_maarx_project_manager_community_manager_part/chb08vustill doing the I am a maarx thing |
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May 06, 2014, 04:53:03 PM |
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Oh god, this is how it starts guys. I'd rather have him ON our team  |
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May 06, 2014, 04:53:13 PM |
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So Iconic leaves when maarx shows up. seems legit!
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May 06, 2014, 04:53:31 PM |
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IE, even if they would have manipulated the price and gain a couple of bc more....with millions in their accounts, as you state, they have too much to lose to ruin the coin. you, however, do more harm and try to ruin the coin. this is more than obvious now.
please return my wallstreet donation and go buy your daughter another LV bag.
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May 06, 2014, 04:54:19 PM |
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You have posted that PM time and time again... In it by the word 'attack' I meant argument as you had just engaged in days of pointless arguing with the people mentioned. You are crazy if you think that PM puts me in a bad light... I don't understand these tactics at all.
Again, I was extending an olive branch to you, as I have done countless times, in order to have some relative peace on these forums.
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