[NLG] The even greater Gulden thread!

[negatief]

Is the florin price below the IPO price?

More people like MUNT, florin is ok for holding but MUNT getting gulden nft early next year.

The problem with MUNT and Florin and will be same with the NFT is blockhut only raises funds from dev funds and nft sales. Blockhut can be cleared of funds and 100s of users waiting to buy which would normally drive the value up but it doesn't. Most of the community don't want to buy on exchanges. When Gulden was on litebit and Nocks the price was higher.

This is why Gulden missed out on the last bull market. We only start to understand how important Nocks was for Gulden, maybe one day a new Nocks will come.

Truth but Nocks did rip off some people in the community with the Ncks token. A community member that was admin on telegram got screwed, when Nocks became a exchange it cost too much for them to maintain so it would not work in the long run. Nocks was much better when it was a broker then when it became a full exchange and started adding other coins and its own token.

The fact that gulden already experienced a microcosmic version nearly 5 years ago of what is now happening with the entire cryptosector tells me that in key ways the entire MUNT/NLG/XFL project, despite "lack of visibility" is actually ahead of the curve in some ways because going forward, less and less people will trust exchanges as a way to acquire and hold their coins despite the continued interest in digital currencies that aren't cbdcs.

 Tether, Gemini, even Binance could eventually pop which would essentially reset the whole market, bitcoin included, providing a brand new basis for the entire industry which could really favor under the radar projects with strong fundamentals, strong tech and the ability to survive without huge amounts of liquidity, which is exactly what munt/gulden/florin represents.

 Once the liquidity does return, the investor saaviness factor will be geared towards finding these exact durable, non-hyped projects of which the entire centure group of coins could very well set the new standard for the future of adoption.

Just look at the respective supply ratios compared to other very recent, overly hyped defi/smartcontract/tokenomics projects that will all continue to collapse if more exchanges melt down. Meanwhile, None of these centure coins are exposed to these outsized risk factors with exchange meltdowns like virtually all of the currently still frothy evaluations of the top 100 in CMC.
 It is not out of the realm of possibility to see these three offerings really set a higher quality bar for digital asset investments in the next 2-5 years.

Bitcoin was started in 2008, all crypto bear markets occurred when the normal markets were doing fine. What do you think is coming for stocks, housing,  businesses etc in 2023? We will have a crypto bear market with a global recession for the first time. It's not going to be pretty.

The 100 million premine will have to be sold on the exchanges to cover costs for centure as less people will have money to buy into crypto. The community will have to split their investments into 3 different centure projects and pray for the best. The 100 million premine looks to be dropping fast and I am willing to bet another 100 million premine will be needed to cover costs.

Munt is the dumping ground for the other 2 projects. Florin is the better option for ROI in a few years.

[BarryDnH]

Bitcoin was started in 2008, all crypto bear markets occurred when the normal markets were doing fine. What do you think is coming for stocks, housing,  businesses etc in 2023? We will have a crypto bear market with a global recession for the first time. It's not going to be pretty.

The 100 million premine will have to be sold on the exchanges to cover costs for centure as less people will have money to buy into crypto. The community will have to split their investments into 3 different centure projects and pray for the best. The 100 million premine looks to be dropping fast and I am willing to bet another 100 million premine will be needed to cover costs.

Munt is the dumping ground for the other 2 projects. Florin is the better option for ROI in a few years.

Rijk the founder doesn't own any Gulden/Munt, he sold all his coins this year. He does own Florin as he sees this as a better investment.

[Toldyouso]

The price is reflecting a future premine. The Gulden name change will decrease interest in this blockchain.

[salvatordoppelbock]

Bitcoin was started in 2008, all crypto bear markets occurred when the normal markets were doing fine. What do you think is coming for stocks, housing,  businesses etc in 2023? We will have a crypto bear market with a global recession for the first time. It's not going to be pretty.

The 100 million premine will have to be sold on the exchanges to cover costs for centure as less people will have money to buy into crypto. The community will have to split their investments into 3 different centure projects and pray for the best. The 100 million premine looks to be dropping fast and I am willing to bet another 100 million premine will be needed to cover costs.

Munt is the dumping ground for the other 2 projects. Florin is the better option for ROI in a few years.

Rijk the founder doesn't own any Gulden/Munt, he sold all his coins this year. He does own Florin as he sees this as a better investment.

My partner and me were thinking of selling last week at 15sat but those prices got sold. We bought Gulden for the name and stayed because some people in the community are good people but lots of them have left. Rob is my best person in the community. We plan to sell Munt when the price is a little better but we will keep the florin for longer term.

[Reallist]

You lucky btc still exists on the buy side for this coin. It's a no hope project where the investors also need to work and take the risks to make this project work.
They need to increase the value of the premine while the benefit of the premine goes to the founder.  My friends there is projects you can invest in with no premines and the founders take all the risks.

[Toldyouso]

You lucky btc still exists on the buy side for this coin. It's a no hope project where the investors also need to work and take the risks to make this project work.
They need to increase the value of the premine while the benefit of the premine goes to the founder.  My friends there is projects you can invest in with no premines and the founders take all the risks.

The project is dead.imho.

[BramVee]

Munt must be left to die and team only focus on Florin. No one is buying the Munt premine and the Gulden nft or put the Gulden nft on the florin blockchain.

I have downloaded other wallets like metamask and the industry has passed centure in developing because working on 2 blockchains slows development.

Rijk also has no investment in MUNT besides selling the premine and he said he only has Florin. Blockhut will only be a service for selling the premine and no hope of ever buying off bittrex as no skills like Roel in the team.

[BramVee]

Gulden needs another Nocks.

It's difficult to start a successful service like Nocks, I tried to get GRS listed on Nocks because of all features it came with that the GRS team could of used effectively in the wallets. MaNi did some good work on the Gulden wallets with Nocks. Is blockhut only selling premine or upgraded to Nocks status?

Blockhut is only for selling the premine and from the devs PoV that is all they need. It will never be another Nocks, forget that dream.

You can buy all the coins you want on blockhut and the value won't move. Florin and Gulden (named to Munt) are stuck unless another Nocks adds Gulden.

For the Dev team no incentive to sell anything other then the premine. The costs of running a brilliant service locks Nocks is not cheap and it requires good skills that Roel and his team had.

Yes.

[BarryDnH]

Munt must be left to die and team only focus on Florin. No one is buying the Munt premine and the Gulden nft or put the Gulden nft on the florin blockchain.

I have downloaded other wallets like metamask and the industry has passed centure in developing because working on 2 blockchains slows development.

Rijk also has no investment in MUNT besides selling the premine and he said he only has Florin. Blockhut will only be a service for selling the premine and no hope of ever buying off bittrex as no skills like Roel in the team.

If you notice the price triple in one day it will be followed with an announcement by blockhut that it's expanding its services to buy off the exchanges. imo. Insiders will buy up a lot of Munt which would be unfair.
The fact the price is this low tells you no flow of money is making it into the exchanges besides the normal community that is decreasing in size.

[JwJimJim]

Nocks gave gulden value but blockhut is a zombie service that is only in place to feed the premine through and not created to increase value for Gulden or new name Munt. Is MaNI still working with Rijk?

[salvatordoppelbock]

Nocks gave gulden value but blockhut is a zombie service that is only in place to feed the premine through and not created to increase value for Gulden or new name Munt. Is MaNI still working with Rijk?

We get tired of this guys coins going down in bear and bull times. It make us angry that we invested in this useless coins, the community is chased away by him.

[BarryDnH]

Nocks gave gulden value but blockhut is a zombie service that is only in place to feed the premine through and not created to increase value for Gulden or new name Munt. Is MaNI still working with Rijk?

We get tired of this guys coins going down in bear and bull times. It make us angry that we invested in this useless coins, the community is chased away by him.

Move on, it's better for your health. Invest in other projects you know the people behind are putting effort in. This project the community was expected to invest and make work when we have careers of our own.

[BarryDnH]

Nocks gave gulden value but blockhut is a zombie service that is only in place to feed the premine through and not created to increase value for Gulden or new name Munt. Is MaNI still working with Rijk?

Most people have left the community,  another 100 million premine coming soon to the MUNT blockchain.

[Stefcommerce]

Nocks gave gulden value but blockhut is a zombie service that is only in place to feed the premine through and not created to increase value for Gulden or new name Munt. Is MaNI still working with Rijk?

We get tired of this guys coins going down in bear and bull times. It make us angry that we invested in this useless coins, the community is chased away by him.

Munt removed off Stex, only bittrex left. Anyone buying the gulden nft needs a IQ check. Its a sad state of affairs but this guy has ditched the original gulden and florin. He will make his money from the NFT and start a 4th project. People are dumb AF if they buy the NFT.

[salvatordoppelbock]

Nocks gave gulden value but blockhut is a zombie service that is only in place to feed the premine through and not created to increase value for Gulden or new name Munt. Is MaNI still working with Rijk?

We get tired of this guys coins going down in bear and bull times. It make us angry that we invested in this useless coins, the community is chased away by him.

Munt removed off Stex, only bittrex left. Anyone buying the gulden nft needs a IQ check. Its a sad state of affairs but this guy has ditched the original gulden and florin. He will make his money from the NFT and start a 4th project. People are dumb AF if they buy the NFT.

I do feel sory for my friend in the community Robbie, he has coins he won't be able to sell for profit because Rijk is against this same investors for making money, so all investors in Munt are going to be losers because he don't want to make some investors rich and everyone suffers. He also sold all his munt, which was gulden before. Better to hold florin if you support Rijks coins and you have to guess when he will dump his coins and make a new coin.

[Danuberiver]

I do feel sory for my friend in the community Robbie, he has coins he won't be able to sell for profit because Rijk is against this same investors for making money, so all investors in Munt are going to be losers because he don't want to make some investors rich and everyone suffers. He also sold all his munt, which was gulden before. Better to hold florin if you support Rijks coins and you have to guess when he will dump his coins and make a new coin.

Rijk dumped most of his premine in 2017, he make lots of money and he will be fine for a long time, so he don't care about u investors.  Both his coins will be removed from the exchanges, EFL had similar volumes before removed off bittrex. It makes me angry he started Gulden because he messed up

chances of EFL and only because he got a good developer he was able to beat us.

[johnnybraveau]

Whats this new thing being mention on slack?

https://twitter.com/wearecoinfan

[DoctorWho7000]

The only reason I purchased Gulden was because I thought Nocks was a good service and you could buy at bitcoin merchants using Gulden with Nocks. When Nocks shutdown it was the end for Gulden. I also supported EFL but it never had people like Roel to make a difference.

[johnnybraveau]

The only reason I purchased Gulden was because I thought Nocks was a good service and you could buy at bitcoin merchants using Gulden with Nocks. When Nocks shutdown it was the end for Gulden. I also supported EFL but it never had people like Roel to make a difference.

Roel, is this you?

[DeathstarApproaching]

The only reason I purchased Gulden was because I thought Nocks was a good service and you could buy at bitcoin merchants using Gulden with Nocks. When Nocks shutdown it was the end for Gulden. I also supported EFL but it never had people like Roel to make a difference.

IMHO the death nail was the removal from litebit and bitcoinmeester. From what I have read on this thread, blockhut only sells the premine and this is a sad state of affairs for potential investors. No one will touch this coin if they can't buy and sell easily.