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May 04, 2013, 10:25:36 PM
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A Ddos is not a solution, and i hate the ddos attacks, but a fee its too not a solution and the new fee its abusive.
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May 04, 2013, 10:35:27 PM
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A Ddos is not a solution, and i hate the ddos attacks, but a fee its too not a solution and the new fee its abusive.

Huh? Supply & demand.

eleuthria has done an exceptional job at building a reliable pool for which there is a high demand. There is a cost to eleuthria for building and maintaining his pool. Even ignoring the 51% thing, it's reasonable that the price can increase. 

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May 04, 2013, 10:36:58 PM
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I guess someone is digging its own grave..!!

I find it stupid that your true (small) miners who made your pool what it is today are victum of your succes

Why not tell some big guys to move over..

Time to leave after all these years of good mining at your pool ..it sucks to be forced the fuck off..

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May 04, 2013, 10:40:37 PM
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I guess someone is digging its own grave..!!

I find it stupid that your true (small) miners who made your pool what it is today are victum of your succes

Why not tell some big guys to move over..

Time to leave after all these years of good mining at your pool ..it sucks to be forced the fuck off..

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your not being forced anywhere you could always just upgrade your software and use strtum i dont see the issuse except maybe lazyness on gateway users part.

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May 04, 2013, 10:48:43 PM
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A Ddos is not a solution, and i hate the ddos attacks, but a fee its too not a solution and the new fee its abusive.

The abuse is demanding pools offer a payout method that forces them to risk bankruptcy so that greedy miners can make a short term profit.

PPS is no longer a viable payout method so I would suggest getting used to that idea.

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May 04, 2013, 10:52:18 PM
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A Ddos is not a solution, and i hate the ddos attacks, but a fee its too not a solution and the new fee its abusive.

The abuse is demanding pools offer a payout method that forces them to risk bankruptcy so that greedy miners can make a short term profit.

PPS is no longer a viable payout method so I would suggest getting used to that idea.

Exactly this.  I am trying to get users to either A) Voluntarily leave the pool and find another pool that offers PPS  or B) Switch to PPLNS.  I'm hopeful that some speed will be lost as a result, that's why this was the first step (the next being dropping getwork support completely).   BTC Guild has consistently LOST money (not even counting server costs) in the last 5 weeks due to PPS.  I have no reason to keep offering it at a fee that is actually losing me money for that length of time.


I find it funny that the most common "solution" people are giving is to kick off the big miners.  How is that fair?  The larger miners run more efficient setups, and have more invested in their setup.  Why should they get punished over the smaller miners?  They get hit harder by the fee increase if they stick to PPS.  They'll leave if they find that to be a problem, just as small miners will.

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May 04, 2013, 10:54:52 PM
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A Ddos is not a solution, and i hate the ddos attacks, but a fee its too not a solution and the new fee its abusive.

The abuse is demanding pools offer a payout method that forces them to risk bankruptcy so that greedy miners can make a short term profit.

PPS is no longer a viable payout method so I would suggest getting used to that idea.

I agree pps is to risky now unless a pool charges higher fees or runs other methods and only allows so many to use pps at a time.  Sad thing most in bitcoin are only out for themselfs they dont think about others or what it takes to run a pool.  I liked using getwork cause i was selling the namecoins and getwork was less laggy on my network for some reason but i have switched all my boxes to stratum now and with newer cgminer lags gone it seems.

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May 04, 2013, 11:37:36 PM
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Still getting DDoS'd on some Stratum servers, moving things around as fast as I can to mitigate them.

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May 06, 2013, 05:52:05 PM
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The new server in Germany is finally provisioned so I can restore EU Stratum to an actual EU server.  I'll be moving DNS over later today once the server is setup.  This will get us back out of EC2, which was the cause of the increased stale rate the last week.  The performance on EC2 is just so random that occasionally the servers would take close to 2 or 3 seconds to produce work for a new block, then the very next block would take less than 1/10th a second, causing very erratic stale rates depending on how overloaded the EC2 instance was.

Users should not notice the change to eu-stratum DNS.  The next time you connect (once it's updated) should point you at the new server.  After 48 hours I will kill off the EC2 instances which should force users to reconnect to the new servers (even very aggressive DNS caching should have updated well before that time).  In the event of another DDoS, I'm leaving a bitcoind instance on EC2, so it should allow me to quickly launch new Stratum nodes with fresh IPs in future attacks.

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May 06, 2013, 06:49:07 PM
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One getwork server is down (surprised nobody reported it yet).  Coming back up as quickly as possible.

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May 08, 2013, 01:10:05 PM
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Any ideas when PPS will be going back to 5%?

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May 08, 2013, 01:24:25 PM
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Any ideas when PPS will be going back to 5%?

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May 08, 2013, 02:05:12 PM
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No. Just don't care to rely on luck, due to the fact I usually have none.

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May 08, 2013, 04:56:28 PM
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Any ideas when PPS will be going back to 5%?

I'm actually more likely to close PPS entirely than return to 5%.  I'm just not in the mood to gamble when the price of BTC has gone this high.  Like I said earlier in the thread, the fee increase was to get some people to leave, other people to switch payout methods.  I did think more people would leave, I'm quite surprised how many are still using PPS as well.  There has been a slight decline, but not nearly what I expected.  However, some people are just slow to switch around their pools, so we'll see what happens after a week has elapsed.

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May 09, 2013, 03:52:55 PM
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Notice to Getwork Miners

Starting tomorrow (May 10th at approx 16:00 UTC), Getwork based mining will be moved to PPLNS as the payment system.  The merged mining server will still pay NMC as PPS.

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May 10, 2013, 07:17:10 AM
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Did anybody else have multiple miners just crash when mining against BTCGuild last night? I had 4 running on 4 separate machines and they all died about 8 hours ago..weird!
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May 10, 2013, 07:49:01 AM
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Did anybody else have multiple miners just crash when mining against BTCGuild last night? I had 4 running on 4 separate machines and they all died about 8 hours ago..weird!

Around 8 hours ago the getwork server was restarted, and so was EU-Stratum (not sure on the exact time, but it was around 8 hours ago).  It shouldn't have made a miner die though, both outages were quite brief.  Are you up to date on your mining software?  I thought most the recent versions had fixed disconnect/reconnect issues for Stratum (and getwork never had reconnect issues as far as I'm aware).

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May 10, 2013, 08:45:10 AM
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Did anybody else have multiple miners just crash when mining against BTCGuild last night? I had 4 running on 4 separate machines and they all died about 8 hours ago..weird!

yes, same here. (cgminer 3.1.0, Debian)

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May 10, 2013, 09:06:09 AM
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Did anybody else have multiple miners just crash when mining against BTCGuild last night? I had 4 running on 4 separate machines and they all died about 8 hours ago..weird!

Around 8 hours ago the getwork server was restarted, and so was EU-Stratum (not sure on the exact time, but it was around 8 hours ago).  It shouldn't have made a miner die though, both outages were quite brief.  Are you up to date on your mining software?  I thought most the recent versions had fixed disconnect/reconnect issues for Stratum (and getwork never had reconnect issues as far as I'm aware).

Yep, I'm on cgminer 3.1.0...I can understand maybe having issues reconnecting, but for the app to crash completely was very strange.
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May 10, 2013, 09:06:56 AM
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Did anybody else have multiple miners just crash when mining against BTCGuild last night? I had 4 running on 4 separate machines and they all died about 8 hours ago..weird!

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