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August 21, 2013, 05:45:17 PM
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There is no debate!  He already clearly told you what you think you're reading is not the case!  Troll.

Yes, yes there is. The debate is on whether it was fair to award the purchasers who made purchases @ the lowest prices instead of award the purchasers who purchased at the highest prices. It was handled completely backwards... Those who purchased @ 2 btc were NOT rewarded but those who purchased for 1 or less btc were? In what twisted version of history is that even logical?

Now, why don't you address that? Because there is no way to address that issue LOGICALLY and THAT is why nobody wants to have the discussion.

"In what twisted version of history is that even logical?" perhaps the logic is based on difficulty increase and not purchase price? One could argue that those who paid the highest price had the longest time mining at lower difficulty? Just a thought.

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August 21, 2013, 05:47:49 PM
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Do the coupons have an expiration date (and thus needing to make a bunch of one device orders to keep them) or can I just order one at a time as I hit the required amount of Bitcoin?
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August 21, 2013, 05:51:37 PM
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So, what happened to the coupon program? Every other reseller has issued them to ALL their customers... Why has BTCGuild not done the same?

WRONG.  Every other reseller has issued them to approximately 30% of their customers, EXACTLY the same as what BTC Guild has done.


8/8/13 AsicMiner Promo 0.10 btc pricing - My promotional inventory has been distributed to all my past customers at the 30% rate. You should have been contacted by me and allowed to purchase 30% of past 0.89 btc+ USB miners from me at the 0.10 btc price. I was told to handle the 30% promo with my customers as I see fit. Thus, ALL(not the last 30%) past 0.89+ btc  USB miners qualify for the 30% promo, not just the last 30% of orders(which would have been unfair to everyone as the last large order I placed was for my own personal use). If friedcat allows 100 % promo on all  USB miners at 0.89 btc and above, I will pass the savings on to my customers. Everyone that is entitled to promo units will be able to purchase them. Thanks for the question and hope this clarifies it for all my valued customers.

Who are you quoting here? I don't ever remember seeing .89 btc price on BTC Guild?

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August 21, 2013, 05:52:13 PM
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New coupons are now distributed to every order (from 0.60 to 1.05 orders) on a 1:1 basis.  These are not ASICMINER's 0.15 coupons as stated many times previously.  They will not expire unless the price on new units drops under 0.40.  The only orders that did not receive this batch of coupons are the orders made using the 0.15 coupons.




Yes, yes there is. The debate is on whether it was fair to award the purchasers who made purchases @ the lowest prices instead of award the purchasers who purchased at the highest prices. It was handled completely backwards... Those who purchased @ 2 btc were NOT rewarded but those who purchased for 1 or less btc were? In what twisted version of history is that even logical?

BTC Guild did not sell any at 2 BTC.  So that argument is invalid.  Additionally, they were given out PER ASICMINER'S INSTRUCTIONS.  If you want to bitch, bitch at the one reseller who didn't follow them, or bitch at ASICMINER.

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August 21, 2013, 05:55:24 PM
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Do the coupons have an expiration date (and thus needing to make a bunch of one device orders to keep them) or can I just order one at a time as I hit the required amount of Bitcoin?

Why bother with the coupon orders anyway? You can get them CHEAPER than the offer, without worry of an expiration, from other vendors. Do yourselves a favor and buy somewhere else, it is what I have been doing since this fiasco started.

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August 21, 2013, 06:00:15 PM
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Do the coupons have an expiration date (and thus needing to make a bunch of one device orders to keep them) or can I just order one at a time as I hit the required amount of Bitcoin?

Why bother with the coupon orders anyway? You can get them CHEAPER than the offer, without worry of an expiration, from other vendors. Do yourselves a favor and buy somewhere else, it is what I have been doing since this fiasco started.

So what then, by pissing and moaning and complaining, you hoped he would reward your behavior by giving you what you want and lower the price? I'm curious, just what price do you want to pay for these things?

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August 21, 2013, 06:03:31 PM
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Just checked out the new coupons and even at the coupon price of .4 I don't see it being very viable to purchase another. I would at a price that had a chance of returning at least most of the investment but I don't see that happening until at least .30. Thanks for the coupon program though.
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August 21, 2013, 06:05:46 PM
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Do the coupons have an expiration date (and thus needing to make a bunch of one device orders to keep them) or can I just order one at a time as I hit the required amount of Bitcoin?

Why bother with the coupon orders anyway? You can get them CHEAPER than the offer, without worry of an expiration, from other vendors. Do yourselves a favor and buy somewhere else, it is what I have been doing since this fiasco started.

So what then, by pissing and moaning and complaining, you hoped he would reward your behavior by giving you what you want and lower the price? I'm curious, just what price do you want to pay for these things?

I am currently paying .30-.31 btc for them, so Elutheria would have to offer a better price than that (as a coupon) for me to bite. Seriously, with razor sharp margins and near zero ROI, you would think this would be a no-brainer, instead you all say I am whining or complaining. Go figure...


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August 21, 2013, 06:09:53 PM
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I am currently paying .30-.31 btc for them, so Elutheria would have to offer a better price than that (as a coupon) for me to bite. Seriously, with razor sharp margins and near zero ROI, you would think this would be a no-brainer, instead you all say I am whining or complaining. Go figure...



Grats, continue paying that elsewhere.  I've said in the past, I have no intention of dropping my prices to what group buys offer because it is not worth my time.  I'm not going to order thousands of extra units of inventory at a profit margin of 3% (at 0.31 assuming shipping is extra), especially when another price drop by ASICMINER would suddenly eat all the profit I made and then some due to leftover inventory that was purchased pre-pricedrop.

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August 21, 2013, 06:14:42 PM
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Do the coupons have an expiration date (and thus needing to make a bunch of one device orders to keep them) or can I just order one at a time as I hit the required amount of Bitcoin?

Why bother with the coupon orders anyway? You can get them CHEAPER than the offer, without worry of an expiration, from other vendors. Do yourselves a favor and buy somewhere else, it is what I have been doing since this fiasco started.

So what then, by pissing and moaning and complaining, you hoped he would reward your behavior by giving you what you want and lower the price? I'm curious, just what price do you want to pay for these things?

I am currently paying .30-.31 btc for them, so Elutheria would have to offer a better price than that (as a coupon) for me to bite. Seriously, with razor sharp margins and near zero ROI, you would think this would be a no-brainer, instead you all say I am whining or complaining. Go figure...



Can he even buy them at that price? Buying here is the easier than the other places. No creating shipping labels, signing transactions etc. Maybe we are willing to pay a premium for that. Why would he bother with this if he only made a $1 on each one. If they don't sell i suspect the price will drop.

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August 21, 2013, 06:16:05 PM
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I am currently paying .30-.31 btc for them, so Elutheria would have to offer a better price than that (as a coupon) for me to bite. Seriously, with razor sharp margins and near zero ROI, you would think this would be a no-brainer, instead you all say I am whining or complaining. Go figure...



Grats, continue paying that elsewhere.  I've said in the past, I have no intention of dropping my prices to what group buys offer because it is not worth my time.  I'm not going to order thousands of extra units of inventory at a profit margin of 3% (at 0.31 assuming shipping is extra), especially when another price drop by ASICMINER would suddenly eat all the profit I made and then some due to leftover inventory that was purchased pre-pricedrop.

How can others do it and you can't? Hmmm

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August 21, 2013, 06:27:29 PM
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I am currently paying .30-.31 btc for them, so Elutheria would have to offer a better price than that (as a coupon) for me to bite. Seriously, with razor sharp margins and near zero ROI, you would think this would be a no-brainer, instead you all say I am whining or complaining. Go figure...



Grats, continue paying that elsewhere.  I've said in the past, I have no intention of dropping my prices to what group buys offer because it is not worth my time.  I'm not going to order thousands of extra units of inventory at a profit margin of 3% (at 0.31 assuming shipping is extra), especially when another price drop by ASICMINER would suddenly eat all the profit I made and then some due to leftover inventory that was purchased pre-pricedrop.

How can others do it and you can't? Hmmm

Either ASICMINER is screwing me, or others will happily sell at a $1 or less profit per unit.  Then again, I noticed Canary increased his price to 0.33 and shipping is not included.  You have to print and email your own shipping label for a small flat rate box ($5.15 or more).

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I am currently paying .30-.31 btc for them, so Elutheria would have to offer a better price than that (as a coupon) for me to bite. Seriously, with razor sharp margins and near zero ROI, you would think this would be a no-brainer, instead you all say I am whining or complaining. Go figure...



Grats, continue paying that elsewhere.  I've said in the past, I have no intention of dropping my prices to what group buys offer because it is not worth my time.  I'm not going to order thousands of extra units of inventory at a profit margin of 3% (at 0.31 assuming shipping is extra), especially when another price drop by ASICMINER would suddenly eat all the profit I made and then some due to leftover inventory that was purchased pre-pricedrop.

How can others do it and you can't? Hmmm
I'm having trouble trying to understand just what you are trying to accomplish... You clearly don't like the price here and are quite happy to jump through hoops to get the best price you can, so go do it. I personally don't mind paying a bit more for the convenience & trust. You state others can do it so why don't he.. WHY DO YOU CARE? Eleuthria don't have to do this at all. You don't like the store? Go shop somewhere else! You seem to be on some crusade that people should run THEIR business the way you think they should and by nattering on about it you will make them change. You want to tilt at a windmill go find a BFL thread and natter on in there.

  

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August 21, 2013, 06:32:59 PM
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Added a Cancel Order link to unpaid orders, so you can remove them from your order status without sending me an email.

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I am currently paying .30-.31 btc for them, so Elutheria would have to offer a better price than that (as a coupon) for me to bite. Seriously, with razor sharp margins and near zero ROI, you would think this would be a no-brainer, instead you all say I am whining or complaining. Go figure...



Grats, continue paying that elsewhere.  I've said in the past, I have no intention of dropping my prices to what group buys offer because it is not worth my time.  I'm not going to order thousands of extra units of inventory at a profit margin of 3% (at 0.31 assuming shipping is extra), especially when another price drop by ASICMINER would suddenly eat all the profit I made and then some due to leftover inventory that was purchased pre-pricedrop.

How can others do it and you can't? Hmmm
I'm having trouble trying to understand just what you are trying to accomplish... You clearly don't like the price here and are quite happy to jump through hoops to get the best price you can, so go do it. I personally don't mind paying a bit more for the convenience & trust. You state others can do it so why don't he.. WHY DO YOU CARE? Eleuthria don't have to do this at all. You don't like the store? Go shop somewhere else! You seem to be on some crusade that people should run THEIR business the way you think they should and by nattering on about it you will make them change. You want to tilt at a windmill go find a BFL thread and natter on in there.

  

I could ask you the same thing... WHY DO YOU CARE WHAT I DO WITH MY TIME? You could easily just ignore me, but you aren't, you want answers to your questions but I am not allowed to ask mine? Hypocrisy at its best...
Good for you that YOU are willing to pay a premium (your own description, not mine) for something that can CLEARLY be had for less...(curious behavior for an item that has close to zero chance for a ROI)...

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I could ask you the same thing... WHY DO YOU CARE WHAT I DO WITH MY TIME? You could easily just ignore me, but you aren't, you want answers to your questions but I am not allowed to ask mine? Hypocrisy at its best...
Good for you that YOU are willing to pay a premium (your own description, not mine) for something that can CLEARLY be had for less...(curious behavior for an item that has close to zero chance for a ROI)...

Um... cause your cluttering up this thread with it? In any case, wish granted, ignored.

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I am currently paying .30-.31 btc for them, so Elutheria would have to offer a better price than that (as a coupon) for me to bite. Seriously, with razor sharp margins and near zero ROI, you would think this would be a no-brainer, instead you all say I am whining or complaining. Go figure...



Grats, continue paying that elsewhere.  I've said in the past, I have no intention of dropping my prices to what group buys offer because it is not worth my time.  I'm not going to order thousands of extra units of inventory at a profit margin of 3% (at 0.31 assuming shipping is extra), especially when another price drop by ASICMINER would suddenly eat all the profit I made and then some due to leftover inventory that was purchased pre-pricedrop.

How can others do it and you can't? Hmmm
I'm having trouble trying to understand just what you are trying to accomplish... You clearly don't like the price here and are quite happy to jump through hoops to get the best price you can, so go do it. I personally don't mind paying a bit more for the convenience & trust. You state others can do it so why don't he.. WHY DO YOU CARE? Eleuthria don't have to do this at all. You don't like the store? Go shop somewhere else! You seem to be on some crusade that people should run THEIR business the way you think they should and by nattering on about it you will make them change. You want to tilt at a windmill go find a BFL thread and natter on in there.

  

I could ask you the same thing... WHY DO YOU CARE WHAT I DO WITH MY TIME? You could easily just ignore me, but you aren't, you want answers to your questions but I am not allowed to ask mine? Hypocrisy at its best...
Good for you that YOU are willing to pay a premium (your own description, not mine) for something that can CLEARLY be had for less...(curious behavior for an item that has close to zero chance for a ROI)...

Done.  Welcome to "ignore".
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I am currently paying .30-.31 btc for them, so Elutheria would have to offer a better price than that (as a coupon) for me to bite. Seriously, with razor sharp margins and near zero ROI, you would think this would be a no-brainer, instead you all say I am whining or complaining. Go figure...



Grats, continue paying that elsewhere.  I've said in the past, I have no intention of dropping my prices to what group buys offer because it is not worth my time.  I'm not going to order thousands of extra units of inventory at a profit margin of 3% (at 0.31 assuming shipping is extra), especially when another price drop by ASICMINER would suddenly eat all the profit I made and then some due to leftover inventory that was purchased pre-pricedrop.

How can others do it and you can't? Hmmm
I'm having trouble trying to understand just what you are trying to accomplish... You clearly don't like the price here and are quite happy to jump through hoops to get the best price you can, so go do it. I personally don't mind paying a bit more for the convenience & trust. You state others can do it so why don't he.. WHY DO YOU CARE? Eleuthria don't have to do this at all. You don't like the store? Go shop somewhere else! You seem to be on some crusade that people should run THEIR business the way you think they should and by nattering on about it you will make them change. You want to tilt at a windmill go find a BFL thread and natter on in there.

 

I could ask you the same thing... WHY DO YOU CARE WHAT I DO WITH MY TIME? You could easily just ignore me, but you aren't, you want answers to your questions but I am not allowed to ask mine? Hypocrisy at its best...
Good for you that YOU are willing to pay a premium (your own description, not mine) for something that can CLEARLY be had for less...(curious behavior for an item that has close to zero chance for a ROI)...


Done.  Welcome to "ignore".

Clearly these two are not the sharpest tools in the shed, but I digress... Anybody else want to have a reasonable debate on WHY you would pay more for something that can be had for much less?
I have a couple coupons I would be willing to sell you for a measly .05 btc each... you would still be saving .05 btc over regular price... lol

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August 21, 2013, 09:53:01 PM
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As has been the case all week, new orders have been getting packed every couple hours so that by the time the pickup happens, as many packages will go out as possible.

Some good news for international customers:  Many countries (Australia, New Zealand, Germany, Spain, Netherlands, and others) have started rolling out a deal with USPS which should give you tracking on first class mail all the way to its destination.  I don't know full details on if this includes expedited customs clearance, or if it's guaranteed to track all the way to delivery, but a lot of recent packages are starting to show status up until Delivery instead of stopping once it hits foreign customs.  These new tracking numbers start with 'LZ' instead of 'LJ'. 'CJ' orders for priority are still supposed to include tracking from start to finish.

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Update on USPS First Class International tracking:

Per the USPS website, the following countries are eligible for the "E-DELCON" (Electronic Delivery Confirmation) International Service:

Australia
Germany
Belgium
Great Britain
Brazil
Israel
Canada
Netherlands
Croatia
New Zealand
Denmark
Spain
France
Switzerland


This fits with what I've been seeing, since recent packages to these countries print out with a "POST EXPRESS" emblem in the upper center of the label. If you're in any of the above countries and considering an order, this should help in your decision on whether you want to pay the extra cost of Priority Mail International.

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