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March 01, 2013, 05:41:48 AM
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Congratulations to ASICMINER, the first miner to submit 1 billion shares since October 2011 (share counts from proportional were not carried into the PPS/PPLNS systems).



D1 shares? or just shares?

EDIT:  D1 shares.

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March 01, 2013, 05:46:40 AM
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Congratulations to ASICMINER, the first miner to submit 1 billion shares since October 2011 (share counts from proportional were not carried into the PPS/PPLNS systems).



D1 shares? or just shares?

EDIT:  D1 shares.

High-diff shares are counted as multiple shares, so it's Diff1 equivalent submissions Smiley.  The actual amount would be more like 1,953,125 actual submissions (estimated).

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March 01, 2013, 12:56:31 PM
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Hmm, I'll see what I can do tonight. Does CGMiner do stratum by default? Will I be working faster or just the same as usual when I switch? I figure the same speed.

So stratum supports little miners still, but had to be geared toward Gigahash miners because of their shear speed?

With stratum there is no persistent connection via HTTP, so each time a miner wants work they create a TCP packet asking for info from the server? (is that what "push-based" means?).
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March 01, 2013, 03:11:29 PM
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At least for me I usually get the idle warning email. I login btcguild to make sure which ones have gone idle, so I look at the dashboard. After getting the miner up I look for the idle warning enable but I have to go settings for that. I know that logically it is a setting but that setting is automatically turned off when something that can be seen in dashboard happens. So I wish idle e-mail setting was in dashboard.
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March 01, 2013, 03:53:50 PM
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At least for me I usually get the idle warning email. I login btcguild to make sure which ones have gone idle, so I look at the dashboard. After getting the miner up I look for the idle warning enable but I have to go settings for that. I know that logically it is a setting but that setting is automatically turned off when something that can be seen in dashboard happens. So I wish idle e-mail setting was in dashboard.

The reason that idle warnings are not in the dashboard any more is that soon (this weekend) they will remain turned on after they are sent.  I'm setting up a new outgoing email server with proper RDNS settings and SPF records so hopefully they will not get completely dropped by some email providers.  I had to turn them off after they were sent before due to the daily outgoing email limits imposed by Google Apps, which is what I've been using to make sure the emails don't get marked as spam. 

Setting up the new outgoing email server is my next project after the hot wallet maintenance (which starts in just over 1 hour).

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March 01, 2013, 03:58:54 PM
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The reason that idle warnings are not in the dashboard any more is that soon (this weekend) they will remain turned on after they are sent.  I'm setting up a new outgoing email server with proper RDNS settings and SPF records so hopefully they will not get completely dropped by some email providers.  I had to turn them off after they were sent before due to the daily outgoing email limits imposed by Google Apps, which is what I've been using to make sure the emails don't get marked as spam. 

Setting up the new outgoing email server is my next project after the hot wallet maintenance (which starts in just over 1 hour).

This made more sense, thanks!
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March 01, 2013, 04:27:34 PM
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Hmm, I'll see what I can do tonight. Does CGMiner do stratum by default? Will I be working faster or just the same as usual when I switch? I figure the same speed.

So stratum supports little miners still, but had to be geared toward Gigahash miners because of their shear speed?

With stratum there is no persistent connection via HTTP, so each time a miner wants work they create a TCP packet asking for info from the server? (is that what "push-based" means?).

Hmm, just found the stratum white paper from Slush

https://docs.google.com/document/d/17zHy1SUlhgtCMbypO8cHgpWH73V5iUQKk_0rWvMqSNs/edit?hl=en_US#heading=h.qtac027hfsqw

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March 01, 2013, 04:36:15 PM
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Hmm, I'll see what I can do tonight. Does CGMiner do stratum by default? Will I be working faster or just the same as usual when I switch? I figure the same speed.

So stratum supports little miners still, but had to be geared toward Gigahash miners because of their shear speed?

With stratum there is no persistent connection via HTTP, so each time a miner wants work they create a TCP packet asking for info from the server? (is that what "push-based" means?).

Hmm, just found the stratum white paper from Slush

https://docs.google.com/document/d/17zHy1SUlhgtCMbypO8cHgpWH73V5iUQKk_0rWvMqSNs/edit?hl=en_US#heading=h.qtac027hfsqw



CGMiner (all recent versions for the last couple months) supports stratum by default.  You will not hash faster, but will likely have lower stale rates.

Stratum with variable difficulty is designed as "infinitely" scalable without increasing the amount of data required between the miner and the pool.  So it's small and massive miner friendly.

Stratum is a persistent TCP connection.  It's push-based because you don't ask for work from the server, the server just pushes new work to you whenever it has new work.  The work supplied by the server is more than 4.2 billion times more work than what you would have received from getwork [and can be expanded further easily], meaning you will never run out of work before new work is sent.

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March 01, 2013, 05:03:19 PM
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Hot wallet maintenance has started.  While I've given the estimate of being done around noon (PST), I'm hoping it will be done much earlier than that.

1 Hour Update:  Hot wallet has been upgraded to 0.8 bitcoind and is resync'ing the blockchain in the new format just to be safe.  The private key for the wallet coins are mined to has been imported and it is nearly sync'd.  Coins from all the change addresses were moved to the cold wallet, and fresh coins have been sent to the hot wallet address.  As soon as these coins have a few confirmations the hot wallet will be put back online.

1h 20m Update:  Hot wallet is now set to process auto payouts at the next interval (11 AM).  Manual payouts still frozen until a few more confirmations hit.

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March 01, 2013, 06:28:24 PM
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Hot wallet maintenance is complete and all payouts are now being processed again.  I did a manual run on automatic payouts to catch up on the two that were missed.

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March 02, 2013, 03:02:39 AM
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Upcoming Changes (This weekend hopefully):

1) New email server being deployed to avoid the outgoing email limits imposed by Google Apps.  Once it's confirmed to work, this means Idle Warning settings will not be disabled once an email has been sent.

2) Mining Teams.  Yes, I know it's not an important feature, but it can help bring back some spirit of competition among miners.  You might not be able to be the fastest or the luckiest on your own, but it can be fun to see how you and your friends compare to other groups.

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March 02, 2013, 03:16:32 AM
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Mining Teams.  Yes, I know it's not an important feature, but it can help bring back some spirit of competition among miners.  You might not be able to be the fastest or the luckiest on your own, but it can be fun to see how you and your friends compare to other groups.
I'm on the ASICMiner team.     Cheesy
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March 02, 2013, 04:12:33 AM
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Mining Teams are great fun!  The SETIs, Folders, and BOINCers have had them since forever.

Let the granfalloonery commence!   Cheesy

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Bitcoin is intentionally designed to be ungovernable and governance-free.  luke-jr 2016

Technology tends to move in the direction of making surveillance easier, and the ability of computers to track us doubles every eighteen months. - Phil Zimmerman 2013

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March 02, 2013, 04:19:31 AM
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Mining Teams are great fun!  The SETIs, Folders, and BOINCers have had them since forever.

Let the granfalloonery commence!   Cheesy

Yeah, I planned on adding them LONG ago but it wasn't received too well at first.  Now a few other pools have added them, and I think with the new interface it will be nice.  The old interface was pretty cluttered already without adding Teams.

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March 02, 2013, 04:27:21 AM
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Way back then (2011), a mining pool was pretty much the same thing as a mining team.  And we hashed using abacuses and trained pterodactyls, Flintstone-style.

The emergence of friendly, healthy intra-pool rivalries is a good example of Bitcoin scaling as it grows up.

Welcome to the latest metasystem transition; you're soaking in it!   Cool

The difference between bad and well-developed digital cash will determine whether we have a dictatorship or a real democracy.  David Chaum 1996
Fungibility provides privacy as a side effect.  Adam Back 2014
"Monero" : { Private - Auditable - 100% Fungible - Flexible Blocksize - Wild & Free® - Intro - Wallets - Podcats - Roadmap - Dice - Blackjack - Github - Android }


Bitcoin is intentionally designed to be ungovernable and governance-free.  luke-jr 2016
Blocks must necessarily be full for the Bitcoin network to be able to pay for its own security.  davout 2015
Blocksize is an intentionally limited resource, like the 21e6 BTC limit.  Changing it degrades the surrounding economics, creating negative incentives.  Jeff Garzik 2013


"I believed @Dashpay instamine was a bug & not a feature but then read: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg13017231#msg13017231
I'm not against people making money, but can't support questionable origins."
https://twitter.com/Tone_LLT/status/717822927908024320


The raison d'être of bitcoin is trustlessness. - Eric Lombrozo 2015
It is an Engineering Requirement that Bitcoin be “Above the Law”  Paul Sztorc 2015
Resiliency, not efficiency, is the paramount goal of decentralized, non-state sanctioned currency -Jon Matonis 2015

Bitcoin is intentionally designed to be ungovernable and governance-free.  luke-jr 2016

Technology tends to move in the direction of making surveillance easier, and the ability of computers to track us doubles every eighteen months. - Phil Zimmerman 2013

The only way to make software secure, reliable, and fast is to make it small. Fight Features. - Andy Tanenbaum 2004

"Hard forks cannot be co
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March 02, 2013, 04:59:57 AM
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Way back then (2011), a mining pool was pretty much the same thing as a mining team.  And we hashed using abacuses and trained pterodactyls, Flintstone-style.

The emergence of friendly, healthy intra-pool rivalries is a good example of Bitcoin scaling as it grows up.

Welcome to the latest metasystem transition; you're soaking in it!   Cool


Yeah, now all we need are some integrated blockchain and MtGox live charts and there would be no reason to leave the dashboard.  Tongue
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March 02, 2013, 06:12:26 AM
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^^Yes!  Let's make this the UI update to end all UI updates.

Besides the MtGox and Blockchain.info scrapers, we need integrated RSS for BTCtalk drama feeds.

Then I'll nevar haff to leave BTCGuild!!!  WIN!!!!!~1!

The difference between bad and well-developed digital cash will determine whether we have a dictatorship or a real democracy.  David Chaum 1996
Fungibility provides privacy as a side effect.  Adam Back 2014
"Monero" : { Private - Auditable - 100% Fungible - Flexible Blocksize - Wild & Free® - Intro - Wallets - Podcats - Roadmap - Dice - Blackjack - Github - Android }


Bitcoin is intentionally designed to be ungovernable and governance-free.  luke-jr 2016
Blocks must necessarily be full for the Bitcoin network to be able to pay for its own security.  davout 2015
Blocksize is an intentionally limited resource, like the 21e6 BTC limit.  Changing it degrades the surrounding economics, creating negative incentives.  Jeff Garzik 2013


"I believed @Dashpay instamine was a bug & not a feature but then read: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg13017231#msg13017231
I'm not against people making money, but can't support questionable origins."
https://twitter.com/Tone_LLT/status/717822927908024320


The raison d'être of bitcoin is trustlessness. - Eric Lombrozo 2015
It is an Engineering Requirement that Bitcoin be “Above the Law”  Paul Sztorc 2015
Resiliency, not efficiency, is the paramount goal of decentralized, non-state sanctioned currency -Jon Matonis 2015

Bitcoin is intentionally designed to be ungovernable and governance-free.  luke-jr 2016

Technology tends to move in the direction of making surveillance easier, and the ability of computers to track us doubles every eighteen months. - Phil Zimmerman 2013

The only way to make software secure, reliable, and fast is to make it small. Fight Features. - Andy Tanenbaum 2004

"Hard forks cannot be co
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March 02, 2013, 06:32:13 AM
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Mining Teams are great fun!  The SETIs, Folders, and BOINCers have had them since forever.

Let the granfalloonery commence!   Cheesy

Yeah, I planned on adding them LONG ago but it wasn't received too well at first.  Now a few other pools have added them, and I think with the new interface it will be nice.  The old interface was pretty cluttered already without adding Teams.
Can we join any team we like or will the team have to allow/invite members? I'm guessing we can create a team but if I saw an existing one I feel an affinity with I'm wondering if joining is just a one-click type affair.

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March 02, 2013, 06:39:42 AM
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Mining Teams are great fun!  The SETIs, Folders, and BOINCers have had them since forever.

Let the granfalloonery commence!   Cheesy

Yeah, I planned on adding them LONG ago but it wasn't received too well at first.  Now a few other pools have added them, and I think with the new interface it will be nice.  The old interface was pretty cluttered already without adding Teams.
Can we join any team we like or will the team have to allow/invite members? I'm guessing we can create a team but if I saw an existing one I feel an affinity with I'm wondering if joining is just a one-click type affair.

Teams will be simple to create/join.  When creating a team, whoever creates it will have the option of a Public (anyone can join) or Private (password restricted) team.  If you just want to join a team, there will be a drop down list to choose one (with password entry for private teams).

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Nice update to the website. Love the EU support aswell! But I would like to see stratum on port 80. Right now the port80 server isn't even listed on the new pages.
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