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September 30, 2013, 03:49:33 PM
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Things are starting to come back online after 12 hours of fighting with DNS and proxies.  Luck has been terrible all night (not just from DDoS, just bad luck in general), which isn't helped by the pool speed dropping 50% during the attacks.

When attacks happen I notice a substantial drop off in my earnings.

Why? It seems like the answer is obvious, but I don't get it.

If the hash rate of the pool drops because miners can't connect, or leave, or whatever, then I should be receiving more of a share in the earnings.

Said another way... The payout of PPLNS is determined by the number of individuals contributing over the last 10 rounds. So why do I always see a drop of in my earnings when a DDOS attack occurs?

Because we had bad luck at the same time as the DDoS.  Normally losing pool speed wouldn't affect 24h earnings much, because you get a bigger share of each block.  But at lower pool speeds, bad luck takes longer to power through.  As a result of bad luck DURING the attack, we had 12 hours where luck was just plain awful instead of 3 or 4 hours of bad luck.

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September 30, 2013, 03:50:57 PM
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because if the pool isnt finding blocks,  there is no payout to share 

It's finding blocks fine at the moment. Check blockchain.info. The private server is working great.
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September 30, 2013, 03:55:39 PM
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Geesh, it isn't bad enough that there is going to be a ton of new hashing power coming on line over the next week, they hafta take away what little i earn now with an attack? stoko!

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September 30, 2013, 03:57:52 PM
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yes its finding blocks,   but not as many as usual,   therefore the payouts on pplns will represent that....

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September 30, 2013, 04:01:46 PM
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260918 (Main Chain)   2013-09-30 14:41:46   0000000000000015ed69c53f0bfbc923d3394565fb3c9b4fe1181ecafb77a2c8
260872 (Main Chain)   2013-09-30 07:59:04   000000000000001074e551eedf768fc320cbeedc5fc099720608328b696d8a1a



it went almost 7 hours without finding a block at all... even tho the private pool was still working.... thats a long time without finding a block.... it should level back off in the next 12 hrs or so as long as the attack stops.....



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September 30, 2013, 04:02:51 PM
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Geesh, it isn't bad enough that there is going to be a ton of new hashing power coming on line over the next week, they hafta take away what little i earn now with an attack? stoko!

Sorry, but there shouldn't have been any point during this attack when you couldn't hash (apart from the few tens of seconds taken for the rollover). My miners went from BTC Guild to 50BTC to Slush without missing a heartbeat. Now I've manually configured the private server as first in the failover chain (last is solo mining).

You need to make sure you have an effective failover strategy in place.
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September 30, 2013, 04:06:03 PM
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if anyone has the ability to also dDos ghash.io and 50btc right now.... they could control 51% of the network.....


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September 30, 2013, 04:08:21 PM
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Geesh, it isn't bad enough that there is going to be a ton of new hashing power coming on line over the next week, they hafta take away what little i earn now with an attack? stoko!

Sorry, but there shouldn't have been any point during this attack when you couldn't hash (apart from the few tens of seconds taken for the rollover). My miners went from BTC Guild to 50BTC to Slush without missing a heartbeat. Now I've manually configured the private server as first in the failover chain (last is solo mining).

You need to make sure you have an effective failover strategy in place.

I'm mining here because my Bitfury rig wouldn't work on slush. I don't think that they can do rollover either. The attack sure did reek havoc on my charts. How to turn 25 Gh/s into 16 Gh/s without really trying Sad

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September 30, 2013, 04:19:10 PM
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From the stats page it looks like things are turning back on. I don't have 200GHs so I can't ask for private server so I'm just watching the public stats page. Can anyone confirm if things are indeed moving?

Things are starting to come back online after 12 hours of fighting with DNS and proxies.  Luck has been terrible all night (not just from DDoS, just bad luck in general), which isn't helped by the pool speed dropping 50% during the attacks.

Are the attackers trying to contact pool owners?  Any demands, or is this just an attack?

No demands, no gloating, nobody even taking credit.

I'm responsible for the attacks. Eleuthria didn't send me a silver usb miner, so I said, everyone will pay!

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September 30, 2013, 04:19:36 PM
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Geesh, it isn't bad enough that there is going to be a ton of new hashing power coming on line over the next week, they hafta take away what little i earn now with an attack? stoko!

Sorry, but there shouldn't have been any point during this attack when you couldn't hash (apart from the few tens of seconds taken for the rollover). My miners went from BTC Guild to 50BTC to Slush without missing a heartbeat. Now I've manually configured the private server as first in the failover chain (last is solo mining).

You need to make sure you have an effective failover strategy in place.

I'm mining here because my Bitfury rig wouldn't work on slush. I don't think that they can do rollover either. The attack sure did reek havoc on my charts. How to turn 25 Gh/s into 16 Gh/s without really trying Sad

Are you using cgminer?
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September 30, 2013, 04:21:02 PM
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From the stats page it looks like things are turning back on. I don't have 200GHs so I can't ask for private server so I'm just watching the public stats page. Can anyone confirm if things are indeed moving?

Things are starting to come back online after 12 hours of fighting with DNS and proxies.  Luck has been terrible all night (not just from DDoS, just bad luck in general), which isn't helped by the pool speed dropping 50% during the attacks.

Are the attackers trying to contact pool owners?  Any demands, or is this just an attack?

No demands, no gloating, nobody even taking credit.

I'm responsible for the attacks. Eleuthria didn't send me a silver usb miner, so I said, everyone will pay!

haha,   i think im about to order some silver ones off ebay... 

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September 30, 2013, 05:06:36 PM
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From the stats page it looks like things are turning back on. I don't have 200GHs so I can't ask for private server so I'm just watching the public stats page. Can anyone confirm if things are indeed moving?

Things are starting to come back online after 12 hours of fighting with DNS and proxies.  Luck has been terrible all night (not just from DDoS, just bad luck in general), which isn't helped by the pool speed dropping 50% during the attacks.

Are the attackers trying to contact pool owners?  Any demands, or is this just an attack?

No demands, no gloating, nobody even taking credit.

I'm responsible for the attacks. Eleuthria didn't send me a silver usb miner, so I said, everyone will pay!

haha,   i think im about to order some silver ones off ebay... 

I can sell you couple silver heat sinks Smiley Bought 9 miners, got 7 blue and 2 silver ones. Replased heat sinks with bigger ones.
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September 30, 2013, 05:44:41 PM
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Geesh, it isn't bad enough that there is going to be a ton of new hashing power coming on line over the next week, they hafta take away what little i earn now with an attack? stoko!

Sorry, but there shouldn't have been any point during this attack when you couldn't hash (apart from the few tens of seconds taken for the rollover). My miners went from BTC Guild to 50BTC to Slush without missing a heartbeat. Now I've manually configured the private server as first in the failover chain (last is solo mining).

You need to make sure you have an effective failover strategy in place.

I'm mining here because my Bitfury rig wouldn't work on slush. I don't think that they can do rollover either. The attack sure did reek havoc on my charts. How to turn 25 Gh/s into 16 Gh/s without really trying Sad
Are you using cgminer?
no, i'm using the software that was imaged with the pi software. With cgminer there would be no problem with rollover.

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September 30, 2013, 06:01:12 PM
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Geesh, it isn't bad enough that there is going to be a ton of new hashing power coming on line over the next week, they hafta take away what little i earn now with an attack? stoko!

Sorry, but there shouldn't have been any point during this attack when you couldn't hash (apart from the few tens of seconds taken for the rollover). My miners went from BTC Guild to 50BTC to Slush without missing a heartbeat. Now I've manually configured the private server as first in the failover chain (last is solo mining).

You need to make sure you have an effective failover strategy in place.

I'm mining here because my Bitfury rig wouldn't work on slush. I don't think that they can do rollover either. The attack sure did reek havoc on my charts. How to turn 25 Gh/s into 16 Gh/s without really trying Sad
Are you using cgminer?
no, i'm using the software that was imaged with the pi software. With cgminer there would be no problem with rollover.


You're a software engineer (no such thing as retired in my book). I think you know what to do.
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September 30, 2013, 06:05:27 PM
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The pool servers seem to have stabilized over the last 45 minutes.  Can't be sure the attacks have stopped, but at least they seem to have done so for now.

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September 30, 2013, 06:33:36 PM
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if anyone has the ability to also dDos ghash.io and 50btc right now.... they could control 51% of the network.....
DDoSing half of the network does not give you control of the other half..

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September 30, 2013, 06:36:26 PM
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if anyone has the ability to also dDos ghash.io and 50btc right now.... they could control 51% of the network.....
DDoSing half of the network does not give you control of the other half..

no, but i bet it upped the income of those who weren't attacked.

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September 30, 2013, 06:38:27 PM
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not sure if there is another DDoS or the same one, but I can't seem to connect... :/

EDIT: Hm EU server works fine and I was thinking this is an issue on my end (maybe it is?) Anyone else have the same issues?

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September 30, 2013, 07:01:09 PM
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if anyone has the ability to also dDos ghash.io and 50btc right now.... they could control 51% of the network.....
DDoSing half of the network does not give you control of the other half..

no, but i bet it upped the income of those who weren't attacked.

That's not true. Think about it: if the network hash rate (say) halves, then all network blocks (on average) will be solved at half the rate (20 minutes instead of 10 minutes at the default rate) but any particular hash rate that somebody can throw onto the network is going to earn the same that it did before at the current difficulty (obviously, people who are not hashing because they're attacked are going to earn nothing). DDoSing affects the block rate of the entire network, it doesn't affect an individual miner who is still hashing.

Another way to think about it: if BTC Guild's rate halves (and you keep hashing because you switched to the private server), then your payment per shift will double (because there are half as many miners to share the reward between), but there will be half as many blocks to pay for them, so overall earnings are the same.

The main effect of DDoSing is that the next difficulty rise will be lower, but every miner is affected by that in the same way.
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September 30, 2013, 07:05:40 PM
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The main effect of DDoSing is that the next difficulty rise will be lower, but every miner is affected by that in the same way.

And don't forget how insignificant this will be towards affecting the next difficulty.  BTC Guild lost ~250 TH/s during the attacks.  The remaining ~160 TH/s were on the private servers that were online the entire time, and about 30-40 TH/s were able to stay connected during the attacks.

Of that 250 TH/s that was lost, close to 100 TH/s showed up on other pools (50BTC, Slush, and p2pool got the biggest bumps).

So in the end, only ~10% of network speed was lost (and the longer the attack goes, the less of a % that becomes as more people change pools if they didn't automatically) for about 12 hours.  That's ~5% of a difficulty adjustment timeframe, of which only 10% of network speed was lost.  VERY little affect on the next difficulty in the long run, and the longer the attack goes the less bang for the buck if the goal is slowing the difficulty climb.

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