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February 01, 2019, 08:11:02 AM
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A major point would be restoring normal trust to accounts which haven't done anything wrong and have been falsly tagged as scammers
Did you say you'd promote Quark and get it on the reddit front page? Did that happen?
What work did you acutally do to justify keeping the Quarks sent to you in good faith.

Wouldn't returning the 10,000 Quarks (perhaps 1000 more!) be the right thing to do?
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I too think there is an urgent need of forum endorsed guidelines to judge any case or else this is just turning into a total mess.
Which is a lie (neither is there any urgency nor is this place near the state of being a mess of that type); stop pushing false narratives using a hacked account. The end goal is to make account trading non-taggable again, and that is not going to happen. Your lies have really become tiring to read. Roll Eyes

This is a good demonstration of what I am talking about here. Instead of addressing any of the problems at all, the trust cops only see a sea of potential criminals around them. Some of them are. Most are not. Usually it is just a technique of calling anyone who questions them into question themselves. You have to give us more authority, more control, you must obey because XYZ will happen without us being able to just indiscriminately tag people! You are all missing the point. The fact is even IF all these hero stories of how much you save the forum are true, the negatives in the form of indiscriminately harassing and driving out good users makes it counterproductive. Forum cops want their control fix, and watch out if you get in their way.

Also the fact that you think you are stopping account sales is a joke, and the fact that you think requiring evidence for a tag on one causes a problem is the punch line. This is just pretext to run your own little inquisition and stroke your ego as you lord over all the noobs and pretty much everyone else. There is always some pretext for you needing this authority as if the forum will collapse without indiscriminate ratings, that is not going to happen.

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February 01, 2019, 11:28:44 AM
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I too think there is an urgent need of forum endorsed guidelines to judge any case or else this is just turning into a total mess.
Which is a lie (neither is there any urgency nor is this place near the state of being a mess of that type); stop pushing false narratives using a hacked account. The end goal is to make account trading non-taggable again, and that is not going to happen. Your lies have really become tiring to read. Roll Eyes

Lies lies lies, says the proven liar. Remove my red trust or debate in public with me why you gave it to me in the first place.

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February 01, 2019, 11:47:10 AM
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I too think there is an urgent need of forum endorsed guidelines to judge any case or else this is just turning into a total mess.
Which is a lie (neither is there any urgency nor is this place near the state of being a mess of that type); stop pushing false narratives using a hacked account. The end goal is to make account trading non-taggable again, and that is not going to happen. Your lies have really become tiring to read. Roll Eyes
This are not lies but guilty truth of yours to mob any one who tries to comment or question on your authority. You are not the saviour of the forum, also you don't have that job here at the first place. You are just pretending to be a forum police but hunting your personal power behind it and harassing users with your fake accusations.

Your tricks to hamper once repo have been seen by many here and reported much times. There is a need of readjustment and you already know that, there are much threads in your own name pointing to you as an trust abuser. They are not just one or two but many. You are also not included by theymos on his trust list, and no one wants you here basically.


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February 01, 2019, 04:50:30 PM
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You are also not included by theymos on his trust list, and no one wants you here basically.

http://loyce.club/trust/2019-01-29_Tue_08.13h/101872.html

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http://loyce.club/trust/2019-01-29_Tue_08.13h/18021.html

Looks like Lauda is "wanted" (pun intended) by quite a few more people than "no one".

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February 01, 2019, 05:32:15 PM
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http://loyce.club/trust/2019-01-29_Tue_08.13h/101872.html

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http://loyce.club/trust/2019-01-29_Tue_08.13h/18021.html

Looks like Lauda is "wanted" (pun intended) by quite a few more people than "no one".
Yes, but it is better to be detrusted by "no one" than "unwanted" by quite more people.


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February 01, 2019, 05:46:03 PM
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Yes, but it is better to be detrusted by "no one" than "unwanted" by quite more people.

The data is updated on Saturdays. Check back tomorrow.

Still it's not even close to "no one wants you here" in any feasible way that I can see. You're making these broad and fairly ridiculous statements quite consistently. Is this caused by the same issue that also caused you to "unlearn" English recently?

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February 01, 2019, 05:53:13 PM
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Yes, but it is better to be detrusted by "no one" than "unwanted" by quite more people.

The data is updated on Fridays. Check back tomorrow.

Still it's not even close to "no one wants you here" in any feasible way that I can see. You're making these broad and fairly ridiculous statements quite consistently. Is this caused by the same issue that also caused you to "unlearn" English recently?

What caused you to unlearn everything recently?

Let's look at some of your statements shall we.

" most " pre merit legends are spammers -- that  is quite a good one

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it is idiotic and incorrect to assume some of the 99.87% of the board can make posts as good or better than some of the 0.13%  (top200 merit cyclers)

Your statements are far more ludicrous. Please do not lecture people on making statements that you feel are ridiculous since that likely means they are quite sensible and reasonable.

Well let's rephrase .... nobody who thinks proven liars should be in positions of trust wants them there.

I don't care who is on DT so long as they are forced to work within a sensible framework and to a sensible fair mandate. If they will not they need removal. Of course it would be quite sensible to remove persons whom are proven liars since surely we can find others who are not to replace them.

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February 01, 2019, 07:31:11 PM
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You are also not included by theymos on his trust list, and no one wants you here basically.

http://loyce.club/trust/2019-01-29_Tue_08.13h/101872.html

vs

http://loyce.club/trust/2019-01-29_Tue_08.13h/18021.html

Looks like Lauda is "wanted" (pun intended) by quite a few more people than "no one".
There are a good amount of accounts that have lauda on their trust list who belong to a single account farmer and I know that some added lauda to their trust lists before he was ever anywhere near DT because that is when they were last logged in (others I cannot rule out adding lauda after he was added to DT because they logged in after lauda was added, but they nonetheless belong to the same person).

I don’t think there is any argument to say that there is not consensus that lauda should be anywhere near DT based on the very high number of high ranking, trustworthy people that have explicitly excluded lauda from their trust lists. (Plus the number of lesser known people that have also explicitly excluded lauda).

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February 01, 2019, 07:33:19 PM
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I wonder, if Bitcointalk VIP member changed his nickname will this name modify in the users' Trust list automatically, or it should be edited manually?

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I wonder, if Bitcointalk VIP member changed his nickname will this name modify in the users' Trust list automatically, or it should be edited manually?
The forum takes care of it:
~not sure what's gonna happen if he changes his name again. Hopefully it's based on user ID somehow.
You can just copy/paste his whole name, and it is stored as a user ID.

As for loyce.club, I try to find the "new" username from BPIP, and if that fails, I'll do a manual search.

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I don’t think there is any argument to say that there is not consensus that lauda should be anywhere near DT based on the very high number of high ranking, trustworthy people that have explicitly excluded lauda from their trust lists. (Plus the number of lesser known people that have also explicitly excluded lauda).

If enough DT1 members exclude Lauda then Lauda won't be in DT1 or even DT2. Your clumsy attempt to redefine consensus on whether someone "should be anywhere near DT" has been duly noted but luckily that's not how it works.

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February 01, 2019, 07:47:27 PM
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I don’t think there is any argument to say that there is not consensus that lauda should be anywhere near DT based on the very high number of high ranking, trustworthy people that have explicitly excluded lauda from their trust lists. (Plus the number of lesser known people that have also explicitly excluded lauda).
Right, now excluded all those that I have rightfully negged from this list and you're down to what, maybe 10% of the original size? Roll Eyes

I don’t think there is any argument to say that there is not consensus that lauda should be anywhere near DT based on the very high number of high ranking, trustworthy people that have explicitly excluded lauda from their trust lists. (Plus the number of lesser known people that have also explicitly excluded lauda).
If enough DT1 members exclude Lauda then Lauda won't be in DT1 or even DT2. Your clumsy attempt to redefine consensus on whether someone "should be anywhere near DT" has been duly noted but luckily that's not how it works.
There's nothing new to note; he tried this with either his alt gorgon or his main already quite some time ago.

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February 01, 2019, 08:24:13 PM
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I don’t think there is any argument to say that there is not consensus that lauda should be anywhere near DT based on the very high number of high ranking, trustworthy people that have explicitly excluded lauda from their trust lists. (Plus the number of lesser known people that have also explicitly excluded lauda).
Right, now excluded all those that I have rightfully negged from this list and you're down to what, maybe 10% of the original size? Roll Eyes

I don’t think there is any argument to say that there is not consensus that lauda should be anywhere near DT based on the very high number of high ranking, trustworthy people that have explicitly excluded lauda from their trust lists. (Plus the number of lesser known people that have also explicitly excluded lauda).
If enough DT1 members exclude Lauda then Lauda won't be in DT1 or even DT2. Your clumsy attempt to redefine consensus on whether someone "should be anywhere near DT" has been duly noted but luckily that's not how it works.
There's nothing new to note; he tried this with either his alt gorgon or his main already quite some time ago.

That is rightfully tagged only in your mind. But then the mind of liar, trust abuser and someone implicated in several shady dealings is not to be trusted or relied upon.

Let's deal with FACT no opinion (especially yours) . A PROVEN liar should not be on DT. There is no wiggle room. Once you lie you become untrustworthy. How can you have proven untrustworthy persons on DT. It simply is not a place for proven liars, trust abusers nor persons that demonstrate clearly greedy and devious traits.

There is perhaps a bunch of 20 people that support you on DT, those themselves are also are highly questionable because they are knowingly and willingly supporting proven untrustworthy persons to be in a position of trust.

I have demonstrated clearly that some people supporting you are also liars and not to be trusted others are trust abusers, others are proven greedy devious and have double standards. I mean most people supporting you are clearly not trustworthy either.

You need persons on DT that are honest and will only tolerate honest persons on DT. 

Want proof or evidence to support anything I have said then request it and I will be glad to present it.



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February 01, 2019, 08:45:18 PM
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I don’t think there is any argument to say that there is not consensus that lauda should be anywhere near DT based on the very high number of high ranking, trustworthy people that have explicitly excluded lauda from their trust lists. (Plus the number of lesser known people that have also explicitly excluded lauda).
Right, now excluded all those that I have rightfully negged from this list and you're down to what, maybe 10% of the original size? Roll Eyes

I don’t think there is any argument to say that there is not consensus that lauda should be anywhere near DT based on the very high number of high ranking, trustworthy people that have explicitly excluded lauda from their trust lists. (Plus the number of lesser known people that have also explicitly excluded lauda).
If enough DT1 members exclude Lauda then Lauda won't be in DT1 or even DT2. Your clumsy attempt to redefine consensus on whether someone "should be anywhere near DT" has been duly noted but luckily that's not how it works.
There's nothing new to note; he tried this with either his alt gorgon or his main already quite some time ago.

Well you have accused them. Clearly that means any complaints are invalid because your decisions and judgement are infallible are they? Life would be so much easier if you could just defame anyone who accuses you of anything amirite?

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February 02, 2019, 09:29:30 AM
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Well you have accused them. Clearly that means any complaints are invalid because your decisions and judgement are infallible are they? Life would be so much easier if you could just defame anyone who accuses you of anything amirite?
Yes, they do that and there is a very clear case of trust abuse happening with me. I am not engaged in any shady active here, even I don't earn form signatures by posting here and there is nothing scammy I have done which should state Warning: Trade with extreme caution!.

This is how they try to mob anyone here who tries to speak in some truth about there manipulative works. This is a clear case of lowering the value of once reputed account, without any prove of it being compressed.


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February 02, 2019, 09:49:13 AM
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Well you have accused them. Clearly that means any complaints are invalid because your decisions and judgement are infallible are they? Life would be so much easier if you could just defame anyone who accuses you of anything amirite?
Yes, they do that and there is a very clear case of trust abuse happening with me. I am not engaged in any shady active here, even I don't earn form signatures by posting here and there is nothing scammy I have done which should state Warning: Trade with extreme caution!.

This is how they try to mob anyone here who tries to speak in some truth about there manipulative works. This is a clear case of lowering the value of once reputed account, without any prove of it being compressed.

Very interesting. What a shocker. Another person who has critical things to say punished with their own personal inquisition. I reviewed the case, and all I see is suspicion. There is no evidence of wrongdoing, just demands by the forum overlords for the user to prove their identity, and punishment for not doing so. I am sure it is just a complete coincidence this inquisition was rebirthed directly after them being critical of the trust police right? It is almost like they try to find anything they can to discredit and punish anyone who criticizes their inquisition type Barney Fife OCD forum cop behavior.

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Very interesting. What a shocker. Another person who has critical things to say punished with their own personal inquisition. I reviewed the case, and all I see is suspicion. There is no evidence of wrongdoing, just demands by the forum overlords for the user to prove their identity, and punishment for not doing so. I am sure it is just a complete coincidence this inquisition was rebirthed directly after them being critical of the trust police right? It is almost like they try to find anything they can to discredit and punish anyone who criticizes their inquisition type Barney Fife OCD forum cop behavior.
Exactly, they try to force there words and just make the situation more worst for anyone speaking against there agenda. This is how they keep the system monopolized.


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February 02, 2019, 10:20:35 AM
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This is how they try to mob anyone here who tries to speak in some truth about there manipulative works. This is a clear case of lowering the value of once reputed account, without any prove of it being compressed.

Exactly, they try to force there words and just make the situation more worst for anyone speaking against there agenda. This is how they keep the system monopolized.

When did you stop speaking English?

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Well you have accused them. Clearly that means any complaints are invalid because your decisions and judgement are infallible are they? Life would be so much easier if you could just defame anyone who accuses you of anything amirite?
Yes, they do that and there is a very clear case of trust abuse happening with me. I am not engaged in any shady active here, even I don't earn form signatures by posting here and there is nothing scammy I have done which should state Warning: Trade with extreme caution!.

This is how they try to mob anyone here who tries to speak in some truth about there manipulative works. This is a clear case of lowering the value of once reputed account, without any prove of it being compressed.

Very interesting. What a shocker. Another person who has critical things to say punished with their own personal inquisition. I reviewed the case, and all I see is suspicion. There is no evidence of wrongdoing, just demands by the forum overlords for the user to prove their identity, and punishment for not doing so. I am sure it is just a complete coincidence this inquisition was rebirthed directly after them being critical of the trust police right? It is almost like they try to find anything they can to discredit and punish anyone who criticizes their inquisition type Barney Fife OCD forum cop behavior.

     I'm going to use an analogy here. Let's say someone lives in the US and just turned 21 two days ago. They decide to go to a nightclub, and somehow ends up losing their ID along the way. When the 21 years old goes to the nightclub, they discover that their ID is missing and the nightclub does not let them enter. Is the nightclub doing something wrong? After all, the person is 21 years old. They just don't have an ID.
     Unfortunately, it appears JusticeforYou has lost the keys that would have allowed him full reentry into our community. If I am not mistaken, Satoshi himself cannot even access his account here unless he can prove to the satisfaction of theymos that he is indeed Satoshi. So Justiceforyou has a privilege that the founder doesn't enjoy. At least he is free to post on this forum. We must take every precaution possible to ensure that this forum doesn't fall for a big con. You do realize that con is short for confidence, correct?
     I for one would hope that JusticeForYou finds a usb drive tucked away in a junk drawer, and is able to retrieve the private keys. Hopefully multiple keys that have no current UTXO attached to them so he doesn't have to reveal his wealth and can be totally vindicated. Also, JusticeForYou indicated that he sent a PM to theymos. Perhaps theymos himself feels that having access to the original e-mail is sufficient.

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