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Removed all. I understand you. i need to learn this trust system before using it. It's not difficult if you know where to learn from: LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust systemEDIT: Damn, even on his mobile LoyceV is faster than me. I have this damn life that still keeps me away from the forum!
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suchmoon
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fillippone
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March 01, 2020, 09:06:52 PM Last edit: March 08, 2020, 11:03:13 AM by fillippone Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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And what a strange bunch we are. We should have a pool: who's going to be the last (wo)man standing? 20 now, 16 next month, then 13, 10, ... and at some point 2 years from now the last DT1 who never lost will lose his spot for the first time. I put my money on theymos Theymos is out Who's in? These users have never been excluded from DT1 (number of DT1 inclusions since March 2019) coinlocket$ 14 JetCash 14 Lafu 14 LesbianCow 14 LoyceV 14 Mitchell 14 mprep 14 o_e_l_e_o 14 owlcatz 14 qwk 14 sapta 14
The count is down to 11! First time Exclusions: January Exclusions ( Fillippone Failed attempt at computing)February Exclusions
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TECSHARE
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I seems to be a common theme that certain users here feel they can dictate who can and can not be included onto ones trust list. If they don't comply with demands they are labeled as "manipulating" the trust system. This is hardly the system Theymos designed that was intended to allow everyone to have a vote.
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yahoo62278
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There's only one new user on DT1 who's name I don't recognize: fzkto. He's only left feedback once, how can these people trust his judgement on others based on that? Local boards. A lot blindly follow each other it seems.
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Timelord2067
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March 02, 2020, 12:13:35 AM |
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There's only one new user on DT1 who's name I don't recognize: fzkto. He's only left feedback once, how can these people trust his judgement on others based on that? Local boards. A lot blindly follow each other it seems. Didn't I read somewhere a couple of weeks ago that be.open and sne.su are alts? Perhaps these are bumping another shill account?
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March 04, 2020, 11:49:45 AM |
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AFAIK banned user's votes count for DT1. Is there somewhere an explanation why this is?
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LoyceV
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March 04, 2020, 01:01:55 PM |
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AFAIK banned user's votes count for DT1. Is there somewhere an explanation why this is? One solution would be to wipe their Trust list, but as far as I know, banned users can still edit their Trust list too. That might be too much though: banned users can still use the forum read-only, and they should still be able to choose who they trust. So indeed, blacklisting banned users from DT1-voting would be better.
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March 04, 2020, 02:23:25 PM |
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AFAIK banned user's votes count for DT1. Is there somewhere an explanation why this is? One solution would be to wipe their Trust list, but as far as I know, banned users can still edit their Trust list too. That might be too much though: banned users can still use the forum read-only, and they should still be able to choose who they trust. So indeed, blacklisting banned users from DT1-voting would be better. Fair point, albeit the use case for the former is really tiny. How many banned users actually stick around to read while logged in and use the trust system? I'd say next to none. Anyway, I would support the blacklisting of banned users from DT1-voting right away.
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March 04, 2020, 03:56:09 PM |
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I would support the blacklisting of banned users from DT1-voting right away.
...not the least of which because there are seventeen UID's that currently distrust you who are banned: But just eight users who trust you who are banned:
It's easy to call out Lauda when he is so contrite.
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March 04, 2020, 04:17:00 PM |
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I'll save you the trouble: http://loyce.club/trust/ranking/131361.htmlI have one banned user trusting me and no users who distrust me are in the banned list. (I also have about eight or nine UID's who are black listed from voting that trust me).
Is your changelog GMT +1 or GMT +/- 0 ?? I just noticed something in your list...
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LoyceV
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March 04, 2020, 04:23:33 PM |
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That list was last updated before the DT1-changes, and doesn't directly highlight banned users. But BeEvil's vote isn't a deciding vote. Even without him you'd have more than enough votes left to be DT1. Is your changelog GMT +1 or GMT +/- 0 ?? I just noticed something in your list... Amsterdam time, CET. Currently 17:23h. In GMT it changes twice a year
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Here is the list of all users who are trusted by at least one banned member who has earned more than 10 merit: theymos OgNasty Timelord2067 suchmoon owlcatz minerjones BitcoinPenny yahoo62278 zazarb SyGambler LoyceV DarkStar_ TryNinja kzv ekiller bobita wolwoo Blacknavy Veleor gospodin DdmrDdmr All of them have enough inclusions to remain on DT1 without the banned user(s) votes. The closest anyone comes is SyGambler, who has 11 votes (9x 250+ and 2x 10+), and would lose one 10+ vote from Bit-Exo.com, or zazarb, who has 15 votes (3x 250+ and 12x 10+), and would lose one 250+ vote from vit05 and one 10+ vote from Skeptical One, leaving them both with the minimum number of votes needed. Having said that, I obviously can't take in to account the fact that not everyone including these two users will necessarily be voting for them, due to the limits on the numbers of votes each user is allowed to cast. So it could very well be that the votes from the banned users are needed.
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March 05, 2020, 06:18:04 AM |
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- snip - All of them have enough inclusions to remain on DT1 without the banned user(s) votes. The closest anyone comes is SyGambler, who has 11 votes (9x 250+ and 2x 10+), and would lose one 10+ vote from Bit-Exo.com, or zazarb, who has 15 votes (3x 250+ and 12x 10+), and would lose one 250+ vote from vit05 and one 10+ vote from Skeptical One, leaving them both with the minimum number of votes needed.
Having said that, I obviously can't take in to account the fact that not everyone including these two users will necessarily be voting for them, due to the limits on the numbers of votes each user is allowed to cast. So it could very well be that the votes from the banned users are needed.
I think you are underestimating how far banned accounts and alts go within the current setup. I am thinking in the lines of: It may be a too drastic change to do all at once.
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LoyceV
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March 08, 2020, 09:18:04 AM |
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I'd like to see the "provably fair" details for this lottery.
I'm not suggesting any kind of favoritism Just some random statistic: 60% of the users who never lost the DT1-lottery have at "L" in their username, vs. less than 38% of the users who lost the lottery at least once. I'm not drawing any conclusions, but currently 63.6% of the users who never lost the DT1-lottery have an "L" in their username
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March 08, 2020, 10:52:12 AM |
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I'd like to see the "provably fair" details for this lottery.
I'm not suggesting any kind of favoritism Just some random statistic: 60% of the users who never lost the DT1-lottery have at "L" in their username, vs. less than 38% of the users who lost the lottery at least once. I'm not drawing any conclusions, but currently 63.6% of the users who never lost the DT1-lottery have an "L" in their username even im i hope it look no strange..
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