DefaultTrust changes

[Vod]

You're in DT1 so it should concern you. If that's too much trouble and you insist on screwing around with your trust list - PM theymos and ask to be blacklisted.

I just tried the new icon in the BPIP extension to add him to my distrust list.  Nicely done!

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[marlboroza]

As I said before. I'm not interested in this topic. Who can add me wherever they want TrustList or Distrust. This doesn't really concern me.

You don't "sound" like someone who isn't interested.

[...] PM theymos and ask to be blacklisted.

Aaah, but you see, if they do that then all those nice accounts won't get chance to become DT.

[owlcatz]

Lies. You ~'ed me loooong ago. I sent you a PM since I had no idea who you are (and still don't, or care), yet you never even replied.

Actually, if I am looking at this correctly, you excluded ekiller first (https://loyce.club/trust/2019-06-15_Sat_13.30h/667791.html) and ~2 weeks later they excluded you (https://loyce.club/trust/2019-06-29_Sat_06.02h/667791.html).

@ekiller, have you ever thought that users are maybe excluding and mentioning you because of trust list full of sockpuppets and shady accounts?

@Marlboroza, I stand corrected thank you. So what happened here was likely this.... At first when the trust system changed, there weren't a whole lot of major changes going on so I by habit excluded new people until I had looked them over etc etc .... As the summer went on, I obviously lost track of it and since so many changes happened in the past year, I was unable to correct some of it.

Anyhow, point being - I sent @ekiller a very nice PM just asking what's up and that I did not know him but was interested in dialog in working it out.

In fact, here is my pm text:

Hey mate! Saw you distrusted me because I had ~ you.... I do that for newer DT1 accounts until I have time to look. You should have just sent me a PM instead mate, that's the proper way!

Anyhow, I removed the ~ , hope you can do the same and welcome to dt 1! 

Nothing personal either btw, thanks

Anyhow, so much for trying, cuz there was no reply.

I can't recall how long I removed the ~ for, but I don't think it matters. Cheers.

[icopress]

I apologize if the question is off-topic (but I think this is the most appropriate thread to ask about this).
Yesterday I came across a rather interesting case... the joint's account is periodically online, but the latest publications are dated three years ago, (which is rather strange). There are no signs of email changes, or notifications that the account has woken up after a long period of inactivity. Although I don't know how long such notifications are displayed, (I would like to know more about it too).

This is the first time I've seen an account with such unusual activity. The account has been in read mode for three years... What do you think about it?

[Little Mouse]

Although I don't know how long such notifications are displayed, (I would like to know more about it too).

Couldn’t find exactly what you are looking for but found something close to that. Password change and reset- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=827927.0
I just found that too. It's visible for 30 days, it shows if an user got inactive for 180 days.

You're considered to have woken up if your last login time is 180+ days ago, and the message remains for 30 days.

[ekiller]

Lies. You ~'ed me loooong ago. I sent you a PM since I had no idea who you are (and still don't, or care), yet you never even replied.

Actually, if I am looking at this correctly, you excluded ekiller first (https://loyce.club/trust/2019-06-15_Sat_13.30h/667791.html) and ~2 weeks later they excluded you (https://loyce.club/trust/2019-06-29_Sat_06.02h/667791.html).

@ekiller, have you ever thought that users are maybe excluding and mentioning you because of trust list full of sockpuppets and shady accounts?

@Marlboroza, I stand corrected thank you. So what happened here was likely this.... At first when the trust system changed, there weren't a whole lot of major changes going on so I by habit excluded new people until I had looked them over etc etc .... As the summer went on, I obviously lost track of it and since so many changes happened in the past year, I was unable to correct some of it.

Anyhow, point being - I sent @ekiller a very nice PM just asking what's up and that I did not know him but was interested in dialog in working it out.

In fact, here is my pm text:

Hey mate! Saw you distrusted me because I had ~ you.... I do that for newer DT1 accounts until I have time to look. You should have just sent me a PM instead mate, that's the proper way!

Anyhow, I removed the ~ , hope you can do the same and welcome to dt 1!  

Nothing personal either btw, thanks

Anyhow, so much for trying, cuz there was no reply.

I can't recall how long I removed the ~ for, but I don't think it matters. Cheers.

1st...You add me in your ~    And i add you  in  my ~   is it ok ?
2nd..Later you remove me in your ~   But i Don't remove you in my  ~  (Because i am not unbalanced madman as you)
3th..Later you again add me in your  ~ Because i don't remove you in my  ~

Whenever you wish add me in your distrust list,
Whenever you wish remove me in your distrust list and send me PM for " Heeeey mate! remove me in your distrust list,  look I remove you " .   So...... this is your business.
And I just laugh at it. And of course I didn't answer.  Understand this well; People don't act according to your mood.

 Is it game ? Be a determined and balanced person. Don't play the game if you don't know what you're doing.

I just did the same to you what you did to me. Stop whining.
It doesn't bother me that you are unstable person.

I guess I have a right like this,  I'll add everyone who added me to their ~ list   .. Ok ?
And I will not take it back again.

So think twice, act once

[sujonali1819]

I apologize if the question is off-topic (but I think this is the most appropriate thread to ask about this).
Yesterday I came across a rather interesting case... the joint's account is periodically online, but the latest publications are dated three years ago, (which is rather strange). There are no signs of email changes, or notifications that the account has woken up after a long period of inactivity. Although I don't know how long such notifications are displayed, (I would like to know more about it too).

This is the first time I've seen an account with such unusual activity. The account has been in read mode for three years... What do you think about it?

According to theymos word the notification will remain for 30 days. So in this case I want to say did you notice that the account was not active in the last 30 days period? Or suddenly you saw it that the account is active?
So one thing could happen in this case, maybe the user came back a months or a few months ago but did not make any post. And if the user come months ago then generally maybe the duration of displaying such notification is expaired.

[LoyceV]

The account has been in read mode for three years... What do you think about it?

That's not necessarily a bad thing, I have accounts like that on a few (specialized) forums. I only go there if I need to know something.

His last posts were all about Flat Earth

[icopress]

That's not necessarily a bad thing, I have accounts like that on a few (specialized) forums. I only go there if I need to know something.

His last posts were all about Flat Earth

LoyceV, I'm not saying this is bad... It was just because of this unusual activity that the opportunity presented itself to ask about the notification time intervals. This case seemed to me as unusual as the activity of another account ^{[I can't remember the username]}, user statistics indicated only 300 posts, while there were 3000 merits. As it turned out, there were more messages, but they were written in those sections in which statistics are powerless.

So one thing could happen in this case, maybe the user came back a months or a few months ago but did not make any post. And if the user come months ago then generally maybe the duration of displaying such notification is expaired.

I guess I agree, this could be a reasonable explanation (came back a few months ago but haven't posted anything yet). But in any case, it is not yet possible to check online intervals.

[marlboroza]

But in any case, it is not yet possible to check online intervals.

You can check if user wasn't active for longer period of time and woke up, someone archived seclog for last 5 years (http://archive.is/https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php), but, unfortunately, few months are missing.

I apologize if the question is off-topic (but I think this is the most appropriate thread to ask about this).

Well, it has nothing to do with DT changes, you should have created new topic in meta for this.

[LoyceV]

You can check if user wasn't active for longer period of time and woke up, someone archived seclog for last 5 years (http://archive.is/https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php), but, unfortunately, few months are missing.

Or, much easier: LoyceV's seclog log User "the joint" isn't in there though.

[icopress]

You can check if user wasn't active for longer period of time and woke up, someone archived seclog for last 5 years (http://archive.is/https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php), but, unfortunately, few months are missing.

Or, much easier: LoyceV's seclog log User "the joint" isn't in there though.

I also looked for information in bitcointalk/seclog, but here the data is only for the last month (as far as i understand it is the same list as on loyce.club). By the way, since we're talking about this, maybe it's worth adding a link to the seclog for the last 5 years to the LoyceV's seclog log thread?

+ Looking through the seklogs, I saw the user "Jetfox", who has 1100 posts in his statistics, but he has only 14 pages of history (277 posts). How is this possible?

Well, it has nothing to do with DT changes, you should have created new topic in meta for this.

I am not a fan of creating threads by little things... and while this thread discusses DT user activity, I took the liberty of asking here as these are rather unusual cases in my opinion.

[LoyceV]

maybe it's worth adding a link to the seclog for the last 5 years to the LoyceV's seclog log thread?

That is literally what that thread is all about

user "Jetfox", who has 1100 posts in his statistics, but he has only 14 pages of history (277 posts). How is this possible?

You have local boards on ignore.

As I said before. I'm not interested in this topic. Who can add me wherever they want TrustList or Distrust. This doesn't really concern me.

5 days later:

Code:

11/22/2020 1:29:40 AM 	DT1 peers 	ekiller DT1 distrusts LoyceV DT1
11/22/2020 1:29:40 AM 	DT1 peers 	ekiller DT1 distrusts Vod DT1

Just like I said:

I noticed both ekiller and wolwoo have excluded everyone (Trust list: backscratchers: users agree, they distrust each other) who excluded them:

Ekiller now reached DT1 Strength (-1).

[Timelord2067]

What happened this week with the Custom Trust list viewer?

Shows the same data for 2 weeks in a row:

I asked the same question half an hour ago in what I *think* is the applicable thread for LoyceV's project.

Sometime in the next week (before Saturday one would imagine hope) the DT "lottery" will occurs yet again with all the power plays and wailing that brings.

[LoyceV]

What happened this week with the Custom Trust list viewer?

This happened:

I f*cked up I ran the update 3 hours too early (also for my Merit data), so theymos' data dump wasn't updated yet. For Merit data this means more than a day delay, my Trust list update should be ready about 3 hours from now.

Sometime in the next week (before Saturday one would imagine hope) the DT "lottery" will occurs yet again with all the power plays and wailing that brings.

See DT1-election: Rank up pipeline (also not updated yet) for the ever increasing list of potential candidates.

[icopress]

I'm just interested in your opinion .. I find these mutual inclusions strange.

• Trust list was created for the first time (osmanucal, cryptoinfal).
• I do not believe in mutual simultaneous inclusion. ^{[coincidence]}

Code:

~BountyDetective, ~osmanucal, ~cryptoinfal

Trust list for: osmanucal (Trust: awaiting update) (5 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-11-29_Sun_14.19h) Back to index

osmanucal Trusts these users' judgement:

~/~

11. NEW BountyDetective (Trust: +0 / =0 / -2) (49 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
12. NEW cryptoinfal (Trust: awaiting update) (11 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

osmanucal's judgement is Trusted by:

1. NEW BountyDetective (Trust: +0 / =0 / -2) (49 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. NEW cryptoinfal (Trust: awaiting update) (11 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)


Trust list for: cryptoinfal (Trust: awaiting update) (11 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-11-29_Sun_14.19h) Back to index

cryptoinfal Trusts these users' judgement:

~/~

5. NEW BountyDetective (Trust: +0 / =0 / -2) (49 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. NEW osmanucal (Trust: awaiting update) (5 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

cryptoinfal's judgement is Trusted by:

1. NEW BountyDetective (Trust: +0 / =0 / -2) (49 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. NEW osmanucal (Trust: awaiting update) (5 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

[Timelord2067]

I'm just interested in your opinion .. I find these mutual inclusions strange.

Might have something to do with this:

Code:

Registration Date:10/16/2020 2:41:31 PM (Active 5 hours ago) 		 osmanucal
Registration Date:10/16/2020 2:50:37 PM (Active 3 days ago) 	 	cryptoinfal

Registration Date:10/15/2019 10:22:35 AM (Active 18 minutes ago) 	BountyDetective

• osmanucal (the one receiving the DT trust) is registered just nine minutes before one of the two users who go on to trust them.
• The same is true for cryptoinfal (registered nine minutes later and trusted by the same two)

Trust list for: BountyDetective (Trust: +0 / =0 / -2) (49 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-11-29_Sun_14.19h)
Back to index

BountyDetective Trusts these users' judgement:

8. NEW RaltcoinsB (Trust: neutral) (346 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Trust list for: osmanucal (Trust: awaiting update) (5 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-11-29_Sun_14.19h)
Back to index

osmanucal Trusts these users' judgement:

5. NEW RaltcoinsB (Trust: neutral) (346 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Trust list for: cryptoinfal (Trust: awaiting update) (11 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-11-29_Sun_14.19h)
Back to index

cryptoinfal Trusts these users' judgement:

3. NEW RaltcoinsB (Trust: neutral) (346 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

6. NEW osmanucal (Trust: awaiting update) (5 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP

[suchmoon]

I'm just interested in your opinion .. I find these mutual inclusions strange.

That's just Vispilio's puppet farm. Nothing to see here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5289777.msg55639064#msg55639064

[LoyceV]

Theymos updated DT1:

Removed:
     1. Administrator theymos (Trust: +30 / =0 / -0) (6963 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     2. Staff malevolent (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (473 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     3. Legendary Vod (Trust: +28 / =1 / -3) (1738 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     4. Legendary philipma1957 (Trust: +30 / =1 / -0) (1843 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     5. Legendary babo (Trust: +8 / =1 / -0) (920 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     6. Administrator Cyrus (Trust: +13 / =0 / -0) (287 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     7. Legendary ibminer (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (848 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     8. Legendary TookDk (Trust: +31 / =0 / -0) (54 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     9. Legendary Timelord2067 (Trust: +9 / =6 / -1) (542 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    10. Legendary figmentofmyass (Trust: neutral) (917 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    11. Legendary by rallier (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (316 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    12. Hero Member Lydian (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (169 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    13. Legendary Buchi-88 (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (405 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    14. Legendary suchmoon (Trust: +14 / =0 / -0) (4929 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    15. Legendary teeGUMES (Trust: +13 / =2 / -1) (849 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    16. Staff sapta (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (196 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    17. Legendary BitcoinPenny (Trust: +51 / =0 / -0) (747 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    18. Legendary Last of the V8s (Trust: +8 / =0 / -1) (3885 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    19. Legendary WhiteManWhite (Trust: neutral) (118 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    20. Legendary asu (Trust: !!!:  +3 / =1 / -21) (634 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    21. Legendary SFR10 (Trust: +13 / =0 / -0) (563 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    22. Hero Member ekiller (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (443 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    23. Copper Member bL4nkcode (Trust: +12 / =1 / -0) (637 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    24. Legendary Lafu (Trust: +6 / =2 / -0) (1206 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    25. Hero Member Gunthar (Trust: +13 / =0 / -0) (110 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    26. Legendary xtraelv (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (1689 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    27. Hero Member bobita (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (624 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    28. Copper Member nullius (Trust: +4 / =4 / -1) (2048 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    29. Legendary krogothmanhattan (Trust: +82 / =1 / -0) (1618 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    30. Legendary Steamtyme (Trust: +8 / =1 / -0) (1753 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    31. Legendary Coin-1 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (1061 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    32. Legendary GreatArkansas (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (1002 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    33. Copper Member logfiles (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (876 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    34. Legendary joniboini (Trust: neutral) (1461 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    35. Sr. Member Agrawas (Trust: +40 / =0 / -0) (432 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    36. Legendary coinlocket$ (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (1334 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    37. Legendary Husna QA (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (1435 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    38. Legendary Coolcryptovator (Trust: +20 / =1 / -0) (1563 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    39. Hero Member 1miau (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (2736 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Added:
     1. Legendary dooglus (Trust: +11 / =0 / -0) (302 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     2. Legendary SebastianJu (Trust: +29 / =0 / -0) (64 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     3. Legendary fronti (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (203 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     4. Legendary Dabs (Trust: +42 / =0 / -0) (454 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     5. Legendary Foxpup (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (1062 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     6. Legendary peloso (Trust: +2 / =3 / -5) (177 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     7. Staff Welsh (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (1108 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     8. Copper Member Mitchell (Trust: +39 / =1 / -0) (543 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
     9. Sr. Member Ticked (Trust: +30 / =0 / -0) (209 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    10. Global Moderator hilariousandco (Trust: +24 / =2 / -0) (886 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    11. Legendary Avirunes (Trust: +13 / =1 / -0) (383 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    12. Legendary buckrogers (Trust: +29 / =0 / -0) (150 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    13. Legendary nutildah (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (2804 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    14. Legendary tmfp (Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (722 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    15. Legendary Royse777 (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (1145 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    16. Legendary zazarb (Trust: +21 / =1 / -0) (503 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    17. Legendary o_solo_miner (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (239 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    18. Legendary ezeminer (Trust: +25 / =0 / -0) (111 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    19. Copper Member actmyname (Trust: +21 / =0 / -0) (1184 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    20. Legendary TwitchySeal (Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (809 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    21. Legendary eddie13 (Trust: +3 / =1 / -0) (1078 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    22. Sr. Member polymerbit (Trust: +13 / =0 / -0) (326 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    23. Hero Member wolwoo (Trust: +0 / =3 / -3) (657 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    24. Legendary JollyGood (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (798 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    25. Sr. Member RaltcoinsB (Trust: neutral) (346 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    26. Hero Member xenon131 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (652 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    27. Legendary roycilik (Trust: +11 / =1 / -0) (1520 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    28. Legendary El duderino_ (Trust: +25 / =1 / -0) (4289 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    29. Legendary Veleor (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (1483 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    30. Sr. Member 3meek (Trust: neutral) (251 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    31. Hero Member Maus0728 (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (881 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    32. Hero Member MoparMiningLLC (Trust: +26 / =0 / -0) (685 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    33. Legendary taikuri13 (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (1383 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    34. Legendary abhiseshakana (Trust: +2 / =1 / -0) (1926 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    35. Legendary madnessteat (Trust: +5 / =1 / -0) (1095 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    36. Legendary lovesmayfamilis (Trust: +18 / =0 / -0) (1502 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    37. Hero Member efialtis (Trust: +19 / =1 / -0) (1156 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    38. Hero Member geophphreigh (Trust: +16 / =0 / -0) (637 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
    39. Hero Member zasad@ (Trust: +2 / =1 / -0) (1875 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Dabs is still the biggest Trust Selfscratcher in the list, he went from +8 to +42 when he entered DT1 again. Many users on his Trust list are only on DT2 for leaving Dabs positive feedback. That's not right.

[RussiaCoinDotInfo]

Dabs is still the biggest Trust Selfscratcher in the list, he went from +8 to +42 when he entered DT1 again. Many users on his Trust list are only on DT2 for leaving Dabs positive feedback. That's not right.

Dabs averts his gaze when you post many times in your many worthy threads with no other contributors, yet Dabs and others gleefully deleted 43 posts of mine in my one RussiaCoin thread without warning then claims no one else posted.  How is that not punished?  Now we hear Dabs pats himself on back and gives himself reward?  Is this true?  Are management asleep at wheel?  Maybe we should all give management red marks to get them to do their jobs.