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December 12, 2019, 02:26:28 PM
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India always had an issue with the bowling department. They never had good strike bowlers as in India kids prefer to bat more than bowl. You will always find plenty of spinners but rarely you will find a good medium pacer or a fast bowler. I think they should give more chance to Md Shammi.
I am sure you are talking about your own experience when you were a kid that you prefer to bat rather than to bowl and so does majority of the kids but when you look at the current Indian team they have the best bowling line up, in T20 they might go for runs and they have the batsman to back the bowlers and the last match against West Indies was a prime example.

In T20 even the best bowlers can go for plenty of runs, and you can't really blame them. If it is 90% skill and 10% luck in the ODI format, in T20 format it is 50% luck and 50% skill. So if a batsmen is lucky on a given day, he may smash the best T20 bowler available for more than 20 runs in an over. qne unfortunately none of the Indian bowlers can be considered as T20 specialists.
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December 12, 2019, 04:14:39 PM
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In T20 even the best bowlers can go for plenty of runs, and you can't really blame them. If it is 90% skill and 10% luck in the ODI format, in T20 format it is 50% luck and 50% skill. So if a batsmen is lucky on a given day, he may smash the best T20 bowler available for more than 20 runs in an over. qne unfortunately none of the Indian bowlers can be considered as T20 specialists.
The bowlers in T20 has to be on point with all the deliveries if not they will be taken apart, Ashwin was a specialist in T20 and that is how he got national recognition as he was performing well in the IPL as an opening bowler but i am not sure what happened to him as he is not even in the T20 set up of things while he is only playing Test cricket, Bumrah is a good bowler in all format because of his capability to bowl stump to stump line, the world cricket has a few T20 specialist and earlier there was Umar Gul who shined really well. 
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December 13, 2019, 04:22:51 AM
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In T20 even the best bowlers can go for plenty of runs, and you can't really blame them. If it is 90% skill and 10% luck in the ODI format, in T20 format it is 50% luck and 50% skill. So if a batsmen is lucky on a given day, he may smash the best T20 bowler available for more than 20 runs in an over. qne unfortunately none of the Indian bowlers can be considered as T20 specialists.
The bowlers in T20 has to be on point with all the deliveries if not they will be taken apart, Ashwin was a specialist in T20 and that is how he got national recognition as he was performing well in the IPL as an opening bowler but i am not sure what happened to him as he is not even in the T20 set up of things while he is only playing Test cricket, Bumrah is a good bowler in all format because of his capability to bowl stump to stump line, the world cricket has a few T20 specialist and earlier there was Umar Gul who shined really well. 

The batsmen have got used to Ashwin's variations and he is struggling abroad in all formats. And at home he needs turning tracks to take wickets. Now the other spinners such as Kuldeep Yadav and Yuzvendra Chahal are being preferred because of their ability to perform even on hostile tracks. But the Indian pacers have excelled in all sort of tracks. Bumrah is currently being regarded as one of the top bowlers in the world right now and Mohammad Shami and Ishant Sharma are not too far behind.

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December 13, 2019, 08:10:28 AM
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Another concern is Risav Pant, India should find the replacement for him. I don't  think that Dhoni is going to play in the T20 worldcup.
I agree that Pant needs to be replaced soon though I do not agree that Dhoni won't return since the upcoming T-20 World Cup could be his final tournament.

The batsmen have got used to Ashwin's variations and he is struggling abroad in all formats. And at home he needs turning tracks to take wickets. Now the other spinners such as Kuldeep Yadav and Yuzvendra Chahal are being preferred because of their ability to perform even on hostile tracks. But the Indian pacers have excelled in all sort of tracks. Bumrah is currently being regarded as one of the top bowlers in the world right now and Mohammad Shami and Ishant Sharma are not too far behind.
Ashwin is excelling in the T-20 format these days since I hear stories of him performing extremely well in small T-20 leagues these days which is why I fail to see why he shouldn't be brought back into the squad since Kuldeep and Chahal are out of form these days.

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December 13, 2019, 10:21:09 AM
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Ashwin is excelling in the T-20 format these days since I hear stories of him performing extremely well in small T-20 leagues these days which is why I fail to see why he shouldn't be brought back into the squad since Kuldeep and Chahal are out of form these days.

Are you talking about TNPL? That tournament is not up to the standard of global franchise cricket leagues such as the CPL and the BBL. And Ashwin can't play in any other T20 league, as the BCCI rules prohibit him from doing so. He took part in the recently concluded Syed Mushtaq Ali Trophy, but that tournament is also not considered as having high standards.
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December 13, 2019, 10:43:32 AM
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Are you talking about TNPL? That tournament is not up to the standard of global franchise cricket leagues such as the CPL and the BBL. And Ashwin can't play in any other T20 league, as the BCCI rules prohibit him from doing so. He took part in the recently concluded Syed Mushtaq Ali Trophy, but that tournament is also not considered as having high standards.
The point is that his form is great these days no matter how popular the tournament is. He performed well in the recent test series too against Bangladesh and I know that this is his speciality, but he is a seasoned cricketer and deserves to be brought back into the squad.

Sundar is the only spinner who performed really well in the recent T-20 matches for India while Ashwin could back him up nicely.

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December 13, 2019, 11:04:25 AM
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I agree that Pant needs to be replaced soon though I do not agree that Dhoni won't return since the upcoming T-20 World Cup could be his final tournament.
India has given more chances for Pant to perform and i think the pressure to replace Dhoni is affecting his performance, once he understand that he is not going to replace a legendary player like Dhoni then he might play without pressure, he is also missing catches as a keeper and we have much better wicket keepers than him right now and we need to give others a chance rather than putting more pressure on Pant.

Ashwin is excelling in the T-20 format these days since I hear stories of him performing extremely well in small T-20 leagues these days which is why I fail to see why he shouldn't be brought back into the squad since Kuldeep and Chahal are out of form these days.
I would like to see him play in T20 format and see how he performs, if there is IPL before the world cup and if some of the players perform well in that then there is a possibility that they could be selected for the world cup squad.
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December 13, 2019, 11:10:03 AM
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I agree that Pant needs to be replaced soon though I do not agree that Dhoni won't return since the upcoming T-20 World Cup could be his final tournament.
India has given more chances for Pant to perform and i think the pressure to replace Dhoni is affecting his performance, once he understand that he is not going to replace a legendary player like Dhoni then he might play without pressure, he is also missing catches as a keeper and we have much better wicket keepers than him right now and we need to give others a chance rather than putting more pressure on Pant.
Yes I think people are expecting too much from Pant. Even before coming to international format he was expected to just come and deliver. He is really feeling the pressure and people are not realizing that he obviously cannot keep like MSD as he had 15 years of experience with him while Pant is just a kid trying to learn he will take his time obviously.
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Ashwin is excelling in the T-20 format these days since I hear stories of him performing extremely well in small T-20 leagues these days which is why I fail to see why he shouldn't be brought back into the squad since Kuldeep and Chahal are out of form these days.
I would like to see him play in T20 format and see how he performs, if there is IPL before the world cup and if some of the players perform well in that then there is a possibility that they could be selected for the world cup squad.
I think Ashwin doesn't has some charm delivery using which he can take wicket in just one ball. He actually bowls for a few overs builds pressure using some deliveries and then bangs and get some wickets.
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December 13, 2019, 11:17:49 AM
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India has given more chances for Pant to perform and i think the pressure to replace Dhoni is affecting his performance, once he understand that he is not going to replace a legendary player like Dhoni then he might play without pressure, he is also missing catches as a keeper and we have much better wicket keepers than him right now and we need to give others a chance rather than putting more pressure on Pant.

The selection of Rishabh Pant is getting very controversial these days. Keralites are not happy, because they think that Virat Kohli, being a Delhiite is giving chances to Pant because he is also from the same state. Those fans from Bihar wants Ishan Kishan to fill the position. And if MSK Prasad has his way, then some sub-standard player from Andhra will come up as the replacement for Dhoni.
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December 13, 2019, 12:08:54 PM
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India has given more chances for Pant to perform and i think the pressure to replace Dhoni is affecting his performance, once he understand that he is not going to replace a legendary player like Dhoni then he might play without pressure, he is also missing catches as a keeper and we have much better wicket keepers than him right now and we need to give others a chance rather than putting more pressure on Pant.

The selection of Rishabh Pant is getting very controversial these days. Keralites are not happy, because they think that Virat Kohli, being a Delhiite is giving chances to Pant because he is also from the same state. Those fans from Bihar wants Ishan Kishan to fill the position. And if MSK Prasad has his way, then some sub-standard player from Andhra will come up as the replacement for Dhoni.
Yes, the performance of Rishabh Pant isn't to the expected level. Truly there is big politics within the team. Most of the team players were the one that played for Bangalore Royal Challengers. Sanju Samson could've been given chances in between. Ishan Kishan is playing good, but when they enter the international matches there isn't big performance. Rishabh Pant has been a reason for the loaa of India in several matches. There isn't pressure, because if he has faced pressure now he could've got replaced by someone else.

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December 13, 2019, 02:47:38 PM
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The selection of Rishabh Pant is getting very controversial these days. Keralites are not happy, because they think that Virat Kohli, being a Delhiite is giving chances to Pant because he is also from the same state. Those fans from Bihar wants Ishan Kishan to fill the position. And if MSK Prasad has his way, then some sub-standard player from Andhra will come up as the replacement for Dhoni.
It is true that keralites are not happy with the team selection, if you look at the amount of exposure and opportunity Pant is getting even with constant failures is frustrating as if there are no other players in India to be picked in that position and Pant might be getting the nod every time may be because they are from the same state, the reason why there is a huge cry for Sanju Samson is because there are not much players that are in contention to play for India but Samson is performing really well for a long time and still he is neglected.
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December 13, 2019, 07:00:46 PM
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The selection of Rishabh Pant is getting very controversial these days. Keralites are not happy, because they think that Virat Kohli, being a Delhiite is giving chances to Pant because he is also from the same state. Those fans from Bihar wants Ishan Kishan to fill the position. And if MSK Prasad has his way, then some sub-standard player from Andhra will come up as the replacement for Dhoni.
It is true that keralites are not happy with the team selection, if you look at the amount of exposure and opportunity Pant is getting even with constant failures is frustrating as if there are no other players in India to be picked in that position and Pant might be getting the nod every time may be because they are from the same state, the reason why there is a huge cry for Sanju Samson is because there are not much players that are in contention to play for India but Samson is performing really well for a long time and still he is neglected.

Players from the smaller state boards always face this issue in India. I don't know much about Kerala cricket, but I have read about K. N. Ananthapadmanabhan. Once he was regarded as the best spinner in India. But he was never given an opportunity to represent the national side, because the selectors were afraid that if he performs well, then Anil Kumble will be out of the team. At least Sanju is luckier than him.
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December 16, 2019, 04:05:45 PM
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While Mzansi Super League is still in progress (Today Bay Giants will take on Tshwane Spartans), we have another T10 league starting from 15 in Abu Dhabi. We will daily have 3 matches in  T10 league for the next 10 days. We have too much cricket to follow for the next few days. It will be exciting to watch all these matches.
 
 

I once told about the  Mzansi Super League here but no one look interested in that league and therefore we had no discussions about it. Although I was watching this  league actively but did not share anything here buz of lack of interest. I just want to inform you that today is the last day of the League and the final is in progress at  Paarl between TS and PR.  AB de Villars is playing for TS and I hope they can win this one.
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I once told about the  Mzansi Super League here but no one look interested in that league and therefore we had no discussions about it. Although I was watching this  league actively but did not share anything here buz of lack of interest. I just want to inform you that today is the last day of the leqgue and the final is in progress at  Paarl between TS and PR.  AB de Villars is playing for TS and I hope they can win this one.

To put it honestly, nowadays too many franchise T20 leagues have been started and it is getting slightly repetitive with players such as Chris Gayle and Andre Russell appearing for 5-6 different franchises in a single year. We have the Pokhara Premier League (Nepal) and the Qatar T10 League ongoing now, apart from the Mzansi Super League. It is actually very tiring to keep track of all these leagues.

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December 16, 2019, 04:17:42 PM
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I once told about the  Mzansi Super League here but no one look interested in that league and therefore we had no discussions about it. Although I was watching this  league actively but did not share anything here buz of lack of interest. I just want to inform you that today is the last day of the leqgue and the final is in progress at  Paarl between TS and PR.  AB de Villars is playing for TS and I hope they can win this one.

To put it honestly, nowadays too many franchise T20 leagues have been started and it is getting slightly repetitive with players such as Chris Gayle and Andre Russell appearing for 5-6 different franchises in a single year. We have the Pokhara Premier League (Nepal) and the Qatar T10 League ongoing now, apart from the Mzansi Super League. It is actually very tiring to keep track of all these leagues.


If you are a true cricket lover than you should follow all the leagues and watch all the matches. The ones you missed can be viewed later on you tube but ideally you should watch all the match in full Live. This shows our dedication and true love for the cricket.
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December 17, 2019, 05:06:25 AM
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I once told about the  Mzansi Super League here but no one look interested in that league and therefore we had no discussions about it. Although I was watching this  league actively but did not share anything here buz of lack of interest. I just want to inform you that today is the last day of the leqgue and the final is in progress at  Paarl between TS and PR.  AB de Villars is playing for TS and I hope they can win this one.

To put it honestly, nowadays too many franchise T20 leagues have been started and it is getting slightly repetitive with players such as Chris Gayle and Andre Russell appearing for 5-6 different franchises in a single year. We have the Pokhara Premier League (Nepal) and the Qatar T10 League ongoing now, apart from the Mzansi Super League. It is actually very tiring to keep track of all these leagues.


The chart is very helpful and really explains the thing itself that how many tournaments are being held and I think that each board has to decide which players should be send in what tournaments. Like all the first class cricket players could be made part of this tournaments which will give them good exposure .

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December 17, 2019, 05:21:42 AM
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Just noticed the post about the Qatar T10 League. There were a few big names participating in this tournament, such as Hashim Amla, Kamran Akmal, Sikandar Raza, Scott Edwards, Salman Butt, Andri Berenger, Mohammad Hafeez, Sohail Tanvir, Manpreet Singh Gony.etc, but the response from the fans was lukewarm. On top of that, both the semifinals got washed away as a result of rain. I hope that in the future, this tournament will grow like the Abu Dhabi T10 league.

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To put it honestly, nowadays too many franchise T20 leagues have been started and it is getting slightly repetitive with players such as Chris Gayle and Andre Russell appearing for 5-6 different franchises in a single year. We have the Pokhara Premier League (Nepal) and the Qatar T10 League ongoing now, apart from the Mzansi Super League. It is actually very tiring to keep track of all these leagues.


Nice chart, will send some merits soon (when i get some). this list points out some very interesting things about how all cricket board handles their T-20 leagues. for example BCCI starts IPL when there is no Domestic or international cricket (1-2 exceptions).


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December 17, 2019, 10:51:02 AM
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@Vishnu.Reang Of all the leagues you have mentioned, I haven't watched any leagues except for IPL and I haven't even heard of SCL and the T20 Global League. It hard to find time to watch all these leagues  Undecided
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Good news for cricket fans and for South Africa as AB de Villiers is in talks with the cricket board to return for the T20 world cup and i really hope they will include him in the team, AB de Villiers was planning to return for the ODI world cup but then they did not consider him because it was too late to select him but now he informed about his interest to play the world cup well ahead and i hope there will be no more excuses.
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