T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion

[sureshnsnet]

Are those international players going to agree on playing all those matches in Pakistan?

If foreign players are willing to play the PSL in Pakistan then they would not have an excuse to avoid touring them and it is an interesting phase for Pakistan cricket as they should conduct all the matches in Pakistan if they want to revive cricket and if they have a clear picture then the players can decide whether they want to participate in the tournament or not, hence it will be a make or break situation for Pakistan cricket.

I think Sri Lanka's recent tour is enough of proof-of-being-secure. It should be ICC's responsibility now to ensure that no team "denies" the tour; any team refusing to home-tour the country should get their matches considered as forfeited.

Yes mate you are right the SriLanka team recently finished the T20 and odi series in Pakistan successfully with any security issues but there are only few players from SriLanka team with coachs. But PSL thing is different there are around 150+players and supporting staff members so my view point how can Pakistan give z+  security for them.

   Pakistan's Over-The-Top Security For Lankan Cricketers https://www.outlookindia.com/videos/pakistans-over-the-top-security-for-lankan-cricketers/3064 

[Sithara007]

I think Sri Lanka's recent tour is enough of proof-of-being-secure. It should be ICC's responsibility now to ensure that no team "denies" the tour; any team refusing to home-tour the country should get their matches considered as forfeited.

How practical is this? If this is implemented, then the weaker teams will get punished and no one will touch the stronger teams. Now you are saying that the ICC should punish Bangladesh for their refusal to play the matches in Pakistan. But the same should be applicable for India as well, right? They have refused to tour Pakistan for the last two decades. But no one will say anything about that, because BCCI is even more powerful than the ICC. Do you think that the ICC has enough courage to deduct points from India?

[JSRAW]

Good news for Pakistani Cricket fans. i was very vocal about this issue that if PCB really want international cricket to come back in Pakistan then they need to host PSL season in front of their home crowd. so very welcome move and congratulation to all Pakistani posters here.
Pakistan to host entirety of PSL 2020

Are those international players going to agree on playing all those matches in Pakistan?

According to reports total 400+ players are interested for 2020 season . i hope PCB make it clear in contracts that all game will take place in Pakistan only. if any player breaks the contract term ban them permanently, follow law step by step then all should be fine in the long run.

I think Sri Lanka's recent tour is enough of proof-of-being-secure.

Its more than enough "proof-of-being-secure- for lower ranking teams. Pakistan should focus lobbying with South Africa and New Zealand as these countries are vulnerable as far as finance is concern in cricket.

Big 3 (Ind+Eng+Aus) PCB has fairly good relation with ECB, If Imran Khan personally starts talk with them then situation can improve drastically. same with CA.

BCCI doesn't have any say when it comes to bilateral series between Ind vs Pak. it doesn't matter which government is sitting in Delhi (its a fact not a statement)

It should be ICC's responsibility now to ensure that no team "denies" the tour; any team refusing to home-tour the country should get their matches considered as forfeited.

Tough call, agreed with @Sithara

[Clement Kaliyar]

It should be ICC's responsibility now to ensure that no team "denies" the tour; any team refusing to home-tour the country should get their matches considered as forfeited.

Tough call, agreed with @Sithara

If BCCI is not planning to send the team to Pakistan, will the ICC intervene and force them to tour them, i really don't think so as they are more powerful and majority of the revenue comes through them and BCCI have a control over the major boards and i do not think they will try to create a rift against the wealthiest board, i am sure even if BCCI wants to tour Pakistan the current government will not allow them because of their idiotic view .

[JSRAW]

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i am sure even if BCCI wants to tour Pakistan the current government will not allow them because of their idiotic view .

History is bitch sometimes and no-one should forget that.
(2008) 26/11 terrorist attack changed the dynamics of Cricket diplomacy and back then Congress was the ruling party (IPL ban), it took 5 years to ease the tension and manage any bilateral series. After that i was optimistic for more cricket but then Pathankot,Uri and Pulwama happened, Followed by Article 370 revoked. so it will take some time to cool things off, let's say 5-7 year or may be decade but it will happen eventually.  

Call it idiotic view (Which i don't agree) or anything else but it doesn't matter who is ruling Delhi.

[Vishnu.Reang]

History is bitch sometimes and no-one should forget that.
(2008) 26/11 terrorist attack changed the dynamics of Cricket diplomacy and back then Congress was the ruling party (IPL ban), it took 5 years to ease the tension and manage any bilateral series. After that i was optimistic for more cricket but then Pathankot,Uri and Pulwama happened, Followed by Article 370 revoked. so it will take some time to cool things off, let's say 5-7 year or may be decade but it will happen eventually.  

Call it idiotic view (Which i don't agree) or anything else but it doesn't matter who is ruling Delhi.

Here I have to agree with JSRAW. It is not going to matter which party is ruling India. Right now, sending a cricket team to Pakistan would be like political suicide for any political coalition in India. JSRAW has listed out the incidents that happened in the past, and these events have changed the mood of the common people in India against any sporting ties with Pakistan. So I don't think that a bilateral series between India and Pakistan is going to take place anytime soon, irrespective of the party which is in power in India.

[ene1980]

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History is bitch sometimes and no-one should forget that.
(2008) 26/11 terrorist attack changed the dynamics of Cricket diplomacy and back then Congress was the ruling party (IPL ban), it took 5 years to ease the tension and manage any bilateral series. After that i was optimistic for more cricket but then Pathankot,Uri and Pulwama happened, Followed by Article 370 revoked. so it will take some time to cool things off, let's say 5-7 year or may be decade but it will happen eventually.  

Call it idiotic view (Which i don't agree) or anything else but it doesn't matter who is ruling Delhi.

Are you accepting his view that the ICC will bow down to BCCI, i am aware that the board is wealthy and they have some control over the international counsel and i am not happy with that simply because i do not want to see a board controlling the entire cricket fraternity and controlling everything because of their political issue between two Asian countries should not be accepted by a world body but despite saying that i am not expecting players from England and Australia visiting Pakistan because of the lack of security and if ICC stick to that then it is fine. 

[Indymoney]

History is bitch sometimes and no-one should forget that.
(2008) 26/11 terrorist attack changed the dynamics of Cricket diplomacy and back then Congress was the ruling party (IPL ban), it took 5 years to ease the tension and manage any bilateral series. After that i was optimistic for more cricket but then Pathankot,Uri and Pulwama happened, Followed by Article 370 revoked. so it will take some time to cool things off, let's say 5-7 year or may be decade but it will happen eventually.  

Call it idiotic view (Which i don't agree) or anything else but it doesn't matter who is ruling Delhi.

Here I have to agree with JSRAW. It is not going to matter which party is ruling India. Right now, sending a cricket team to Pakistan would be like political suicide for any political coalition in India. JSRAW has listed out the incidents that happened in the past, and these events have changed the mood of the common people in India against any sporting ties with Pakistan. So I don't think that a bilateral series between India and Pakistan is going to take place anytime soon, irrespective of the party which is in power in India.

Right now PCB need to work on other teams India is not a point right now because its above from cricket if they able to bring some other teams like South Africa West Indies  and England this could be very helpful for them and they can generate some good finances Australia and New Zealand could be bonus but right now Bangladesh's call is really sad for them as they are really underpressure from BCCI.

[Sithara007]

Are you accepting his view that the ICC will bow down to BCCI, i am aware that the board is wealthy and they have some control over the international counsel and i am not happy with that simply because i do not want to see a board controlling the entire cricket fraternity and controlling everything because of their political issue between two Asian countries should not be accepted by a world body but despite saying that i am not expecting players from England and Australia visiting Pakistan because of the lack of security and if ICC stick to that then it is fine. 

A disproportionately large amount of the ICC revenues come from India, and the IPL salaries represent the majority of the annual income for most of the international players (with the exception of the Pakistani players). Under such circumstances, we can expect the ICC to take a non-confrontational approach with the BCCI. So I don't think that they will get involved in the PCB-BCCI dispute. The ICC has taken many steps in the recent years to cut down BCCI's power. They increased the number of voting members in the executive council and reduced the funding for BCCI. Provoking the BCCI anymore would be self-defeating for the ICC.

[JSRAW]

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Are you accepting his view that the ICC will bow down to BCCI, i am aware that the board is wealthy and they have some control over the international counsel and i am not happy with that simply because i do not want to see a board controlling the entire cricket fraternity and controlling everything because of their political issue between two Asian countries should not be accepted by a world body but despite saying that i am not expecting players from England and Australia visiting Pakistan because of the lack of security and if ICC stick to that then it is fine. 

Not bow down per se, but ICC is not strong enough to challenge BCCI into any arm-wrestling and again @Sithara already mentioned everything. Political crises is main problem. BTW there is no written rule that India should play or not against Pakistan in any bilateral series(or any country), There is 6 teams rule for each team when deciding bilateral series. As long as BCCI filling their quota, no-one cares.

[Vishnu.Reang]

Did anyone watched today's match between Hobart Hurricanes and Brisbane Heat in the Big Bash League (BBL)? Max Bryant and Chris Lynn scored scorching half centuries for Brisbane Heat and managed to get to a score of 212/3. The Hurricanes fought hard to the very last ball, but fell short by 31 runs. Overall, I am quite satisfied with the quality of this season's BBL. IMO, this is the only T20 league, which can give competition to the IPL in terms of quality.

[Clement Kaliyar]

Overall, I am quite satisfied with the quality of this season's BBL. IMO, this is the only T20 league, which can give competition to the IPL in terms of quality.

I am yet to watch a match this season but we need to introduce a tournament where the top leagues will battle it out for the best team in the world title every year and i hope there will be interest on that and if they are finding it hard to find audience in other parts of the world they can conduct the tournament in India and i am sure the stadiums will be jam packed to watch these encounters.

[Juggy777]

Overall, I am quite satisfied with the quality of this season's BBL. IMO, this is the only T20 league, which can give competition to the IPL in terms of quality.

I am yet to watch a match this season but we need to introduce a tournament where the top leagues will battle it out for the best team in the world title every year and i hope there will be interest on that and if they are finding it hard to find audience in other parts of the world they can conduct the tournament in India and i am sure the stadiums will be jam packed to watch these encounters.

@Clement Kaliyar it’s an interesting concept but it’s very difficult to implement it, because all the international fixtures are already fixed and there’s no place to schedule this league. Also I don’t think BCCI would allow this league to be played in India unless it was controlling it because all they care is about making money, and if they’re not making money from it they’ll never allow it to be scheduled in India.

[UmerIdrees]

IMO, this is the only T20 league, which can give competition to the IPL in terms of quality.

I think you are missing PSL here.  Have you watched the PSL League last year ?
It is the 2nd best league after the IPL.

[ene1980]

IMO, this is the only T20 league, which can give competition to the IPL in terms of quality.

I think you are missing PSL here.  Have you watched the PSL League last year ?
It is the 2nd best league after the IPL.

How can you compare it as the second best when the ratings of BBL says a different story, IPL is the biggest league in terms of viewership and Australia Big Bash comes second if i am not wrong and PSL comes well below Natwest T20  and Caribbean Premier League, if you have a better evaluation about it i am happy to hear about that. The term best should be applied according to the profit they make and the amount of viewers they have and i am sure my calculation is right according to the reports i saw.

[Indymoney]

IMO, this is the only T20 league, which can give competition to the IPL in terms of quality.

I think you are missing PSL here.  Have you watched the PSL League last year ?
It is the 2nd best league after the IPL.

How can you compare it as the second best when the ratings of BBL says a different story, IPL is the biggest league in terms of viewership and Australia Big Bash comes second if i am not wrong and PSL comes well below Natwest T20  and Caribbean Premier League, if you have a better evaluation about it i am happy to hear about that. The term best should be applied according to the profit they make and the amount of viewers they have and i am sure my calculation is right according to the reports i saw.

@ene1980 you are right PSL need some time at home then we can say any thing about this right now its not good for talking that its second best for me IPL BBL CPL and then Natwest is in top four may be @UmerIdrees is furious about PSL so saying its second best its not near second right now.

[Murat]

Pakistan Cricket Board should take an immediate step for arranging ann international cricket tournament which gives them a lot of confidence, I think they are under captured by the regional politics, so they have to maintain both cricket and politics for sustaining a good environment on the favor of cricket. I think Bangladesh will play there T/20 along with a complete series, Many Pakistani players are claiming that Indian cricket board are trying to put a pressure on BCB not going there, but I don't think so, Whatever the case is, Already BCB declared that Bangladesh will go to Pakistan and play only T/20 Matches. I hope to see a good competitive series.

[Sithara007]

IMO, this is the only T20 league, which can give competition to the IPL in terms of quality.

I think you are missing PSL here.  Have you watched the PSL League last year ?
It is the 2nd best league after the IPL.

In terms of the revenues and quality, I would rate BBL much above the PSL, or any other non-Indian league. The only thing that I don't like about the BBL is that they allow only 2 overseas players in the squad (compared to 8 per squad and 4 in the playing XI for the IPL). And this has led to some very good players not getting the opportunity to play.

Melbourne Stars had initially signed Dale Steyn and Sandeep Lamichhane as the overseas players. Steyn was injured after two matches and they temporarily replaced him with Haris Rauf. He picked up 7 wickets from two matches (including an amazing 5/27 against the Hurricanes). But once Steyn was back, he was out of the playing XI.

[sureshnsnet]

Did anyone watched today's match between Hobart Hurricanes and Brisbane Heat in the Big Bash League (BBL)? Max Bryant and Chris Lynn scored scorching half centuries for Brisbane Heat and managed to get to a score of 212/3. The Hurricanes fought hard to the very last ball, but fell short by 31 runs. Overall, I am quite satisfied with the quality of this season's BBL. IMO, this is the only T20 league, which can give competition to the IPL in terms of quality.

Yes it has really amazing to watch the match yesterday between Hobart hurricanes vs Brisbane Heat it was the high scored match, Lynn firework helped heat to post a massive 212 on the broad and Hobart managed to only 181 in the chase, and lose by 31 runs.

I think so the BBL has most followers after IPL in terms of quality

[Vishnu.Reang]

Yes it has really amazing to watch the match yesterday between Hobart hurricanes vs Brisbane Heat it was the high scored match, Lynn firework helped heat to post a massive 212 on the broad and Hobart managed to only 181 in the chase, and lose by 31 runs.

I think so the BBL has most followers after IPL in terms of quality

The good thing about BBL is that most of their revenue is coming from the Australian TV audience. For leagues such as the CPL of the West Indies, the majority of the revenue comes from Indian and North American audience, and I don't think that it is very sustainable. I heard that they are planning to expand the BBL by adding more teams. Earlier there were suggestions to add two teams from New Zealand (one each from the North and South Islands), but now they are planning to add one or two teams from second tier Australian cities (such as Geelong, Gold Coast, Canberra, Darwin.etc).