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October 09, 2019, 03:35:02 AM |
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You are calculating the overall expected loss but people do not gamble automatically like a robot and get exactly 1% loss on their bets, that is for house to make a profit with thousands of people on millions of bets, not one guy betting to become most wagered..
I never said anyone who gambles will finally lose exactly 1% of the amount he wagers. There are some people make profit and there are some lose more than 1%. But as the house edge is 1%, losing 1% of the wagered amount is likely to happen in long term and also users will loss 1% on average. You are right, that's pure statistics. Lets say you have a dice and roll it, chances are 1/6 that you roll a "1", also chances are 1/6 that you roll a "2" and so forth. So, statistically if you roll 6 times you may have rolled 1 x 1, 1 x 2, 1 x 3, ... I am definitely sure almost no one manages to roll all 6 numbers with just 6 rolls -> this is our guy who doesn't lose the 1% house edge. But if you keep on rolling lets say 600 times chances are very high that you have rolled a 6 as often as a 1 (with just minor differences). This leads to the conclusion that the longer you play, the more likely it is that the house edge comes into play and you lose 1% of your total wagered amount.
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October 09, 2019, 11:25:47 AM |
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But I understand why you are confused. It is written above the table of the latest contest: "FROM: 26 Sep 2019 03:00 GMT+03:00 TO: 29 Sep 2019 03:00 GMT+03:00". I think this is a mistake.
I think the dates shown in the website are correct. The lastest contest held from October 2 to October 5. Here is the post made by windice on October 6 just after the contest was over. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5116500.msg52666583#msg52666583Then it's my bad, I'm sorry. I was judging from the words by yoloer808, who said after the second contest was finished: ~ My overall winnings are quite volatile. The last contest cost me a quite a bit of money, this one was slightly profitable. ~
Since he wagered 10 BTC in one contest and 5 BTC in another one, I thought the contest where he wagered 5 BTC was more profitable for him. It turns out that he was much more lucky during the latest contest, if it was more profitable for him while he wagered 2 times more BTC.
The number of players online has dropped significantly from around 300 during the contest to 160 right now. Run wagering contests more frequently, guys, especially if they are not unprofitable for you.
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October 09, 2019, 08:03:59 PM |
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The number of players online has dropped significantly from around 300 during the contest to 160 right now. Run wagering contests more frequently, guys, especially if they are not unprofitable for you.
So far they havent announced yet their 3 day wagering contest and also dropping the number of players is just normal yet most participants do only eye out when theres some contest or events that is happening not only to this site but in all sites that do had it. Windice team is somewhat really active when it comes to promotion and they should add up in addition to that wagering contest.
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October 09, 2019, 08:12:38 PM |
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The number of players online has dropped significantly from around 300 during the contest to 160 right now. Run wagering contests more frequently, guys, especially if they are not unprofitable for you.
So far they havent announced yet their 3 day wagering contest and also dropping the number of players is just normal yet most participants do only eye out when theres some contest or events that is happening not only to this site but in all sites that do had it. Windice team is somewhat really active when it comes to promotion and they should add up in addition to that wagering contest. Windice is doing good for promotions but still its very long way for them to be good in this market as we have already some big sharks and they have too many big players here just one is crying for unprofitable or profitable its not make any sense because its all on your own if you feel not good then surely you need to leave them.
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October 10, 2019, 03:57:43 AM |
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The number of players online has dropped significantly from around 300 during the contest to 160 right now. Run wagering contests more frequently, guys, especially if they are not unprofitable for you.
The number of total players online currently varies widely, yesterday in the morning it was about 220 people, currently its 116. Doesn't really matter in my opinion as long at this number is overall climbing, which definitely is the case. We should take a look at those numbers at the weekend, when usually most of the players are online.
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October 10, 2019, 09:36:27 AM |
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The number of players online has dropped significantly from around 300 during the contest to 160 right now. Run wagering contests more frequently, guys, especially if they are not unprofitable for you.
The number of total players online currently varies widely, yesterday in the morning it was about 220 people, currently its 116. Doesn't really matter in my opinion as long at this number is overall climbing, which definitely is the case. We should take a look at those numbers at the weekend, when usually most of the players are online. That's right, the number of players online varies (it is 150 currently), and it can be greater on the weekend than it is currently, but I have a feeling that it won't be anywhere around 300, if there is no contest.
I've noticed a minor bug regarding Live Stats on WinDice. It's not happening all the time, but almost. When you login to the site and start playing without checking Live Stats, and then check after making some bets, it shows zero stats on everything (but after you checked it, it starts working fine). Here's an example from my today's playing. After several tries I rolled 7532, and won 44 DOGE, but when I checked the Live Stats, here's what I saw:
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ahmadakbari
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October 10, 2019, 10:21:48 AM |
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I've noticed a minor bug regarding Live Stats on WinDice. It's not happening all the time, but almost.
When you login to the site and start playing without checking Live Stats, and then check after making some bets, it shows zero stats on everything (but after you checked it, it starts working fine).
It's not a bug. That's normal. When you click on stats button, recording of your bets starts. As you see there is a "refresh" button to delete previous bets. The stats are created so you can start recording and refresh it at any time.
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October 10, 2019, 10:32:43 AM |
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I've noticed a minor bug regarding Live Stats on WinDice. It's not happening all the time, but almost.
When you login to the site and start playing without checking Live Stats, and then check after making some bets, it shows zero stats on everything (but after you checked it, it starts working fine).
It's not a bug. That's normal. When you click on stats button, recording of your bets starts. As you see there is a "refresh" button to delete previous bets. The stats are created so you can start recording and refresh it at any time. Imho what he want to say is that the live stats should start whenever players starts betting without clicking the stats button. I just tried and the live stats button starts counting when I click it. It happens anytime I just logged in (doing bet for the first time after log in), the live stats works normally after we click it or refresh it. So I also think that it is a minor bug, as this live stats should start anytime no matter players has just logged in or not.
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October 10, 2019, 10:56:59 AM |
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I've noticed a minor bug regarding Live Stats on WinDice. It's not happening all the time, but almost.
When you login to the site and start playing without checking Live Stats, and then check after making some bets, it shows zero stats on everything (but after you checked it, it starts working fine).
It's not a bug. That's normal. When you click on stats button, recording of your bets starts. As you see there is a "refresh" button to delete previous bets. The stats are created so you can start recording and refresh it at any time. Imho what he want to say is that the live stats should start whenever players starts betting without clicking the stats button. I just tried and the live stats button starts counting when I click it. It happens anytime I just logged in (doing bet for the first time after log in), the live stats works normally after we click it or refresh it. So I also think that it is a minor bug, as this live stats should start anytime no matter players has just logged in or not. Well that's what @Betwrong means, this is indeed a small mistake on livestats in windice. It looks like they don't provide realtime data on livestats so every player has to refresh after betting to see statistics. In my opinion this is not a significant problem, it's just that livestats are not automatically updated or are made intentionally like that, it's just a matter of a little javascript code in that section.
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ahmadakbari
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October 10, 2019, 11:48:41 AM |
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How the bets are shown in livestats is neither a problem nor a bug. I think that's working how Windice want. You are able to see your balance changes in a digram every time you want. That's why the refresh button has created. Note that all of your bets are shown on "History". "Livestats" has been created for another purpose.
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jostorres
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October 10, 2019, 05:02:06 PM |
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Total number of players should be hidden if you ask me, people see that number and forget whats going on with everything else, that number doesn't exist in any other casino I know and that is why people think maybe it is low, maybe some other places have super high.
Well, how many place has managed to get 200+ million bets in less than a year, Windice will be one of the first ever (not counting stake because they had 6 years of primedice worth of marketing).
There could be 50 people online, 100 people online, 200+ people online and it wouldn't matter, what type of bankroll those players have is the real question, people do not come to casinos and spend days and days every single day, they come here gamble for few hours, lose their money and go, casinos needs to keep finding new players plus try to make old players come back, hence the importance is not the live number but total bankroll gambled at that moment.
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October 11, 2019, 08:08:02 AM |
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Total number of players should be hidden if you ask me, people see that number and forget whats going on with everything else, that number doesn't exist in any other casino I know and that is why people think maybe it is low, maybe some other places have super high.
Well, how many place has managed to get 200+ million bets in less than a year, Windice will be one of the first ever (not counting stake because they had 6 years of primedice worth of marketing).
There could be 50 people online, 100 people online, 200+ people online and it wouldn't matter, what type of bankroll those players have is the real question, people do not come to casinos and spend days and days every single day, they come here gamble for few hours, lose their money and go, casinos needs to keep finding new players plus try to make old players come back, hence the importance is not the live number but total bankroll gambled at that moment.
Do you have statistical data that shows standard scale of total number online called bit or tons? Those players online shouldn't do some activity like type chitchat to prove it, they online as they want. Credibility is not only measured by bankroll, how about older casino with big bankroll cause a many years ago bitcoins was 100$? Any data how many's online at leats proving that site or casino not death.
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October 11, 2019, 08:50:16 AM |
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Total number of players should be hidden if you ask me, people see that number and forget whats going on with everything else, that number doesn't exist in any other casino I know and that is why people think maybe it is low, maybe some other places have super high.
Bustadice even has a separate statistics site where you can see a lot of interesting data about the site itself and of course shows the count of currently online users, too. But you are right, this means nothing. If a site has only 10 players online but those guys are wales and gamble with 10 btc per roll the bankroll is way higher than if the site has 1k users online who play with one sat for example.
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October 11, 2019, 09:23:17 AM |
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Total number of players should be hidden if you ask me, people see that number and forget whats going on with everything else, that number doesn't exist in any other casino I know and that is why people think maybe it is low, maybe some other places have super high.
Bustadice even has a separate statistics site where you can see a lot of interesting data about the site itself and of course shows the count of currently online users, too. But you are right, this means nothing. If a site has only 10 players online but those guys are wales and gamble with 10 btc per roll the bankroll is way higher than if the site has 1k users online who play with one sat for example. This may help to promote its transparency but to think also that not all the time a person/gambler been online always unless they use bots. We know it was encouraging to look at when a lot of players get online which we could believe that this site is actually working great and apparently it was a big deal for us. If they hide it, some bad/negative speculations may rise and it leads to some misleading information.
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ahmadakbari
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October 11, 2019, 11:28:49 AM |
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Total number of players should be hidden if you ask me, people see that number and forget whats going on with everything else, that number doesn't exist in any other casino I know and that is why people think maybe it is low, maybe some other places have super high.
Wolf.bet, Bitsler and Primedice are three of gambling websites that show total number of online users. I am sure there are many other gambling websites that show this number. You are right the bankroll of users does matter, But we cannot ignore that total number of online users is a parameter which show how much a website is popular. In my opinion, it's not real problem if a webisite doesn't show this number. But I think showing that is better. Any data about a website is helpful.
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October 11, 2019, 01:01:50 PM |
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Total number of players should be hidden if you ask me, people see that number and forget whats going on with everything else, that number doesn't exist in any other casino I know and that is why people think maybe it is low, maybe some other places have super high.
Well, how many place has managed to get 200+ million bets in less than a year, Windice will be one of the first ever (not counting stake because they had 6 years of primedice worth of marketing).
There could be 50 people online, 100 people online, 200+ people online and it wouldn't matter, what type of bankroll those players have is the real question, people do not come to casinos and spend days and days every single day, they come here gamble for few hours, lose their money and go, casinos needs to keep finding new players plus try to make old players come back, hence the importance is not the live number but total bankroll gambled at that moment.
I wonder which casinos you are talking about that has no information about online users. The in our signature has this information as well, so why it should be hidden while there is nothing wrong with it. I have to agree that this number does not represent the actual active players who are playing with their money (deposit). The number of wagered amount on the site is indeed more important than the online user stats but it does not mean that it should be hidden.
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October 11, 2019, 01:12:12 PM |
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Total number of players should be hidden if you ask me, people see that number and forget whats going on with everything else, that number doesn't exist in any other casino I know and that is why people think maybe it is low, maybe some other places have super high.
Wolf.bet, Bitsler and Primedice are three of gambling websites that show total number of online users. I am sure there are many other gambling websites that show this number. You are right the bankroll of users does matter, But we cannot ignore that total number of online users is a parameter which show how much a website is popular. In my opinion, it's not real problem if a webisite doesn't show this number. But I think showing that is better. Any data about a website is helpful. However, the total number of online users is useful for new people to play to see how good and popular the gambling site is.
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October 11, 2019, 01:45:49 PM |
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I wonder which casinos you are talking about that has no information about online users.
Any of sport games casino, 999dice, and other casino as well. Personally i don't too care whatever the number people online on a site, i'm just hate seeing people hide their name from a site (I know you guys will tell me that's for their private information so once their name shown on high roller tab, people won't begging on them because they don't know who is it), but still i'm just hate seeing that.
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October 11, 2019, 03:18:35 PM |
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Total number of players should be hidden if you ask me, people see that number and forget whats going on with everything else, that number doesn't exist in any other casino I know and that is why people think maybe it is low, maybe some other places have super high.
Wolf.bet, Bitsler and Primedice are three of gambling websites that show total number of online users. I am sure there are many other gambling websites that show this number. You are right the bankroll of users does matter, But we cannot ignore that total number of online users is a parameter which show how much a website is popular. In my opinion, it's not real problem if a webisite doesn't show this number. But I think showing that is better. Any data about a website is helpful. However, the total number of online users is useful for new people to play to see how good and popular the gambling site is. almost every gambling site show their stats , primedice, stake, bitslr, bitvest, ddice etc. while this is a useful statistics to gauge the popularity , online numbers I mean they fluctuate wildly during the week and even one day due to so many factors: site's geo ( for example at windice there are many russian and european players ,so the eu/ru night time the numbers can drop to 120-130 online , while during the day it could go as high as 300) , promotions ( during the contests the numbers rarely fell lower than 200 online ) , advertisement running and so on
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October 11, 2019, 05:37:10 PM |
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Total number of players should be hidden if you ask me, people see that number and forget whats going on with everything else, that number doesn't exist in any other casino I know and that is why people think maybe it is low, maybe some other places have super high.
Wolf.bet, Bitsler and Primedice are three of gambling websites that show total number of online users. I am sure there are many other gambling websites that show this number. You are right the bankroll of users does matter, But we cannot ignore that total number of online users is a parameter which show how much a website is popular. In my opinion, it's not real problem if a webisite doesn't show this number. But I think showing that is better. Any data about a website is helpful. However, the total number of online users is useful for new people to play to see how good and popular the gambling site is. almost every gambling site show their stats , primedice, stake, bitslr, bitvest, ddice etc. while this is a useful statistics to gauge the popularity , online numbers I mean they fluctuate wildly during the week and even one day due to so many factors: site's geo ( for example at windice there are many russian and european players ,so the eu/ru night time the numbers can drop to 120-130 online , while during the day it could go as high as 300) , promotions ( during the contests the numbers rarely fell lower than 200 online ) , advertisement running and so on You are right which this feature is just common on most gambling sites about player counter or statistics. Factors which affect those numbers mainly would be on popularity and same as you said this do also talk about timezone because not all people will able to see on what time where most players visit on the site thats why we do see different numbers on here. Important here is that they dont go below on 100 which means they are doing well.
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