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March 08, 2023, 08:59:50 AM
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We have one more cryptocurrency guy in UFC. The casino that is in my signature has signed Jiri Prochazka as their representative in UFC. We have almost every popular on bitcointalk casinos now represented in UFC; Stake, Duelbits, Roobet. Crypto casinos have signed many  UFC champions (current and former). That looks strange to me, as UFC does not like when fighters advertise something besides their main sponsors (Broke Lesnars Bud Light issue for example)


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March 08, 2023, 09:14:08 AM
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Petr Yan is in a tricky situation right now. Guess where Merab Dvalishvili trains and who he trains with. I will give you a hint - he is a sparring partner of a guy who already has two wins over Yan (or one win Cheesy). Dvalishvili is now on a series of 9 wins. So if Dvalishvili follows gameplan, he has all chances to win. Dvalishvili weakness is defense from strikes, head movement. But he is good at wrestling. Petr starts slowly, but increase tempo in last rounds. With takedowns and ground work Merab is able to take first round, survive Petr striking  and win 2-1 or 3-2 aka split decision.

Hahaha I have seen the recent videos of Merab Dvalishvili training with Aljamain Sterling and when I have seen this fight card, it was all for Petr Yan all along, surely if Aljamain Sterling have mauled down Yan in their 2nd match he surely have the game plan and pattern to do it again unless Petr Yan have watched this training session, Petr Yan is not a simpleminded guy, if it's not working with Aljamain Sterling he and his camp will surely change their game plan, but I really like that Merab Dvalishvili is getting ready for it he surely doesn't underestimate his opponent,

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Thank you and congrats on your Grasso bet too.
I think many gamblers were destroyed especially their parlays. The Grasso fight versus Shevchenko might be the killer of it. No one really expected it for the odds were too far. It even added more to Grasso being the heavy underdog when the fight was about to start. I think the last odds were 7.60-7.80. Then, there's Jon Jones winning although he is the favorite.

She sure needed another win and that's to cement his position as the champion. Many analysts are still thinking she won't win in their rematch but if she can shut them up, then all these doubts will be gone.

I have seen the Multi-Master bet and many have placed their bets or parley for Valentina Shevchenko, it is just good that I have a crush on Alexa Grasso that is why I have saved my bet, No I am joking, but I have seen Grasso's technique and he is genuine with his wrestling and that last fight with a submission win I was surely surprised from Alexa Grasso's transition from a great striker to a wrestler,

And this rematch will surely prove that Alexa Grasso's win over Shevchenko isn't a fluke, but for me, Grasso was dominating the stand-up, with just a 1, 2, combo so I think she will have to up his wrestling even more, but the odds this time will surely get closer now,

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To counter Jones, you need to be a versatile fighter, this became the main problem for Gane. I don't want to offend any of the fighters but Gane disappointed me, there was such a hype around this fight, but in the end it all ended very quickly, even too quickly.

Nganu would be a good opponent for Jones, and even though it's not possible right now, I think we'll see them fight someday. Although they had so many opportunities to have this fight while Nganu was in the UFC, why didn't it happen, can we say that John somehow avoided this fight? I don’t know what happened and how, but I would like to watch the fight of these monsters, in the first round it would hardly have ended.

Yup! Gane is predictable and likely I have seen him scared over Jon Jones he was punching up suddenly will back away so much that he is not really getting his rhythm for Jones, he also has an opening that he doesn't get because of the distance he make while backing up, so it was really his lost and he also said in the press conference that he was angry with himself,
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March 08, 2023, 09:45:27 AM
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Petr Yan is in a tricky situation right now. Guess where Merab Dvalishvili trains and who he trains with. I will give you a hint - he is a sparring partner of a guy who already has two wins over Yan (or one win Cheesy). Dvalishvili is now on a series of 9 wins. So if Dvalishvili follows gameplan, he has all chances to win. Dvalishvili weakness is defense from strikes, head movement. But he is good at wrestling. Petr starts slowly, but increase tempo in last rounds. With takedowns and ground work Merab is able to take first round, survive Petr striking  and win 2-1 or 3-2 aka split decision.

Hahaha I have seen the recent videos of Merab Dvalishvili training with Aljamain Sterling and when I have seen this fight card, it was all for Petr Yan all along, surely if Aljamain Sterling have mauled down Yan in their 2nd match he surely have the game plan and pattern to do it again unless Petr Yan have watched this training session, Petr Yan is not a simpleminded guy, if it's not working with Aljamain Sterling he and his camp will surely change their game plan, but I really like that Merab Dvalishvili is getting ready for it he surely doesn't underestimate his opponent,


Petr Yan actually is doing the same - he is (or probably was) in Thailand, training in Tiger Muay Thai. That is Petrs problem, he is to confident in himself, he gets same camps. That is why he looses by split decisions. Thanks to his skills two last fights were split decisions instead of unanimous. I think he is surrounded by wrong guys partially. He should try changing his fight plan instead of relying much on striking only. Aljo read him like a book with that in their second find and was controlling him smiling. Merab is going to do the same. If Petr wants to win, he should rush from the beginning, stop his usual slow start and increased tempo, otherwise Merab would win because he would take first two rounds, show some control during third round and win. P.S. Will it be 3 or 5 round fight ?

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March 08, 2023, 10:20:20 AM
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Yup! Gane is predictable and likely I have seen him scared over Jon Jones he was punching up suddenly will back away so much that he is not really getting his rhythm for Jones, he also has an opening that he doesn't get because of the distance he make while backing up, so it was really his lost and he also said in the press conference that he was angry with himself,

Gane is good on the stand, but it's definitely not enough to beat Jones. From the very beginning, it was clear how Jones fearlessly goes to him, this guy has enough confidence. As a fighter, Jones is very good, but how stable is he, how long will he last until he again gets into some kind of story with illegal drugs, or something else?

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March 08, 2023, 11:58:45 AM
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Lets wait for Jones to make his first heavyweight title defence and make a conclusion if he really is the greatest or not Cheesy So far it looked like it was an easy win for him. Stipe Miocic promised to smash Jones. Hope we wont have to wait years before Jones fights again. Who else we have among heavyweights ? Pavlovich ? Imho that is going to be copy/paste fight against Gane. Imho a wrestler is needed to win, a wrestler that will counter Jones wrestling, the one who will be able to throw bombs.

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No offense for this, but does Jon Jones is deserved to become top 1 P4P in men's UFC? he was at 10th position and only fight once time with the best fighter in heavyweight, now he's beat Makhachev which previously have beat Volkanovski. From my personal opinion, Makhachev should be on top 1, Volkanovski top 2 and then followed with Jones to be in top 3.

Lets wait for Jones to make his first heavyweight title defence and make a conclusion if he really is the greatest or not Cheesy So far it looked like it was an easy win for him. Stipe Miocic promised to smash Jones. Hope we wont have to wait years before Jones fights again. Who else we have among heavyweights ? Pavlovich ? Imho that is going to be copy/paste fight against Gane. Imho a wrestler is needed to win, a wrestler that will counter Jones wrestling, the one who will be able to throw bombs.
Sadly there's no good wrestler in heavyweight division, only Serghei Spivac which previously beat Derrick Lewis, but he's lack of experience and fight with other good fighters. So it's really too soon if Spivac want to fight with Jones.

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March 08, 2023, 01:37:55 PM
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Petr Yan is in a tricky situation right now. Guess where Merab Dvalishvili trains and who he trains with. I will give you a hint - he is a sparring partner of a guy who already has two wins over Yan (or one win Cheesy). Dvalishvili is now on a series of 9 wins. So if Dvalishvili follows gameplan, he has all chances to win. Dvalishvili weakness is defense from strikes, head movement. But he is good at wrestling. Petr starts slowly, but increase tempo in last rounds. With takedowns and ground work Merab is able to take first round, survive Petr striking  and win 2-1 or 3-2 aka split decision.

Hahaha I have seen the recent videos of Merab Dvalishvili training with Aljamain Sterling and when I have seen this fight card, it was all for Petr Yan all along, surely if Aljamain Sterling have mauled down Yan in their 2nd match he surely have the game plan and pattern to do it again unless Petr Yan have watched this training session, Petr Yan is not a simpleminded guy, if it's not working with Aljamain Sterling he and his camp will surely change their game plan, but I really like that Merab Dvalishvili is getting ready for it he surely doesn't underestimate his opponent,


Petr Yan actually is doing the same - he is (or probably was) in Thailand, training in Tiger Muay Thai. That is Petrs problem, he is to confident in himself, he gets same camps. That is why he looses by split decisions. Thanks to his skills two last fights were split decisions instead of unanimous. I think he is surrounded by wrong guys partially. He should try changing his fight plan instead of relying much on striking only. Aljo read him like a book with that in their second find and was controlling him smiling. Merab is going to do the same. If Petr wants to win, he should rush from the beginning, stop his usual slow start and increased tempo, otherwise Merab would win because he would take first two rounds, show some control during third round and win. P.S. Will it be 3 or 5 round fight ?

Yup...  Yan tends to be a slow starter and he usually gives up the first couple of rounds as he likes to get a read from his opponent before he launches his own attack.  I think it's why Sean O'Malley wanted to fight him.  O'Malley knew it was a huge step up in competition but then also knew that if he could win the first two rounds or at least the first round, he def has a good chance to win the match as it was just for three rounds.

This match is a 5 rounder, so Yan has some room to start slow.

UFC Free Fight:  Yan vs Sandhagen
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UFC Free Fight:  Dvalishvili vs Moraes
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I thought that Conor McGregor and Jake Gyllenhaal using the latest UFC to film a scene for the movie roadhouse was pretty cool. You usually don’t see that sort of thing happen publicly for everyone to see and you usually don’t see so much commentary and news coverage about the filming of a movie scene. I would like to see more of this from the UFC.

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Lets wait for Jones to make his first heavyweight title defence and make a conclusion if he really is the greatest or not Cheesy So far it looked like it was an easy win for him. Stipe Miocic promised to smash Jones. Hope we wont have to wait years before Jones fights again. Who else we have among heavyweights ? Pavlovich ? Imho that is going to be copy/paste fight against Gane. Imho a wrestler is needed to win, a wrestler that will counter Jones wrestling, the one who will be able to throw bombs.

I don't think Stipe has a slight chance against Jones, he is also retired.

Dana needs to offer Francis to come back and fight. They wouldn't wait for the two to deteriorate by old age before realizing they need to fill the demand of fans to determine who is the best beast in this combat sport.  Or we will forever wonder who will really win if they both rage.
The money has to be really huge, and whoever refuses be scaredy cat.
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Everyone is still talking about Francis Ngannou after he left UFC; and Dana White said he will never allow him to come back again  Cheesy
Daniel Cormier and other fighters will never consider Jon Jones a GOAT because he failed drug tests many times, and I agree with that.
Maybe we could see Ngannou vs Jones outside UFC, but I think Jones signed very long contract with UFC so chances are not very big.
I still think Ngannou would win against Jones, but that fight would be fantastic to watch.

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Petr Yan actually is doing the same - he is (or probably was) in Thailand, training in Tiger Muay Thai. That is Petrs problem, he is to confident in himself, he gets same camps. That is why he looses by split decisions. Thanks to his skills two last fights were split decisions instead of unanimous. I think he is surrounded by wrong guys partially. He should try changing his fight plan instead of relying much on striking only. Aljo read him like a book with that in their second find and was controlling him smiling. Merab is going to do the same. If Petr wants to win, he should rush from the beginning, stop his usual slow start and increased tempo, otherwise Merab would win because he would take first two rounds, show some control during third round and win. P.S. Will it be 3 or 5 round fight ?

Coming from 2 consecutive losses Petr Yan is in a must-win situation, and he can not lose 3 matches in a row right now so this is really getting into him he may be questioning himself why did he lose to Aljamain Sterling and why he lose agaisnt Sean O'Malley, while Merab Dvalishvili is coming from a great win agaisnt the Legend Jose Aldo, for me, Merab Dvalishvili has a good position in winning this even though Petr Yan is pretty badly needing to win in this fight I think all the pressure is all on Petr Yan's shoulder so I am really doubting if he can really take on that heat,

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Gane is good on the stand, but it's definitely not enough to beat Jones. From the very beginning, it was clear how Jones fearlessly goes to him, this guy has enough confidence. As a fighter, Jones is very good, but how stable is he, how long will he last until he again gets into some kind of story with illegal drugs, or something else?

If only Ciryl Gane keep the pressure with the stand-up fight he could get a chance and might get Jon Jones clueless and think of ways how he can escape that pressure, but at the start of the fight Ciryl Gane was more than pressured enough to execute anything it was always a punch goes back and it was extremely backing down that the distance was very far away that he can not make a follow-up, Jon Jones even punch him hard that creates an opening for Gane to strike but surely he doesn't take it, it was really an utterly lose but Ciryl Gane still have another chance,

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To counter Jones, you need to be a versatile fighter, this became the main problem for Gane. I don't want to offend any of the fighters but Gane disappointed me, there was such a hype around this fight, but in the end it all ended very quickly, even too quickly.
I wasn't able to watch this fight till this second and wasn't visiting this thread or any website that would spoil me. I just watched it on ESPN+ and I'm hugely disappointed too. There was a big hype around this fight and it ended immediately, we haven't seen any action, anything interesting other than Jon Jones immediately and easily choking Gane.

No offense for this, but does Jon Jones is deserved to become top 1 P4P in men's UFC? he was at 10th position and only fight once time with the best fighter in heavyweight, now he's beat Makhachev which previously have beat Volkanovski. From my personal opinion, Makhachev should be on top 1, Volkanovski top 2 and then followed with Jones to be in top 3.
Generally, UFC ranking doesn't make sense. I think that their marketing team ranks their fighters Cheesy

Daniel Cormier and other fighters will never consider Jon Jones a GOAT because he failed drug tests many times, and I agree with that.
Definitely, he likes performance enhancers.
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No offense for this, but does Jon Jones is deserved to become top 1 P4P in men's UFC? he was at 10th position and only fight once time with the best fighter in heavyweight, now he's beat Makhachev which previously have beat Volkanovski. From my personal opinion, Makhachev should be on top 1, Volkanovski top 2 and then followed with Jones to be in top 3.
I'd even consider Leon Edwards and Usman at the 3rd and 4th rank of the pound-for-pound rankings. These guys paved their way to becoming champions it's not like they did it with just one fight.
I have no idea how they calculate these rankings but I think it is website basis as they are prone to biased speculations after the hype on Jones winning the fight.
I disagree with it, there must be another platform that won't look at the "one fight rank 1" idea. It is not strong proof yet.

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No offense for this, but does Jon Jones is deserved to become top 1 P4P in men's UFC? he was at 10th position and only fight once time with the best fighter in heavyweight, now he's beat Makhachev which previously have beat Volkanovski. From my personal opinion, Makhachev should be on top 1, Volkanovski top 2 and then followed with Jones to be in top 3.

Funny how about few weeks ago top2 p4p beat top1 p4p and now is on third place Cheesy

I would be honest, I dont like Jon Jones because of his dirty fighting style. I dont like to see him on the first place. The guy was epsent for nearly three years, submitted a guy who is really bad at wrestling and instantly became best pound for pound fighter. He is just a good wrestler. But to avoid being not objective, I would better say that he is good wrestler, decent striker with perfect anthroponymy.

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March 09, 2023, 01:42:47 PM
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No offense for this, but does Jon Jones is deserved to become top 1 P4P in men's UFC? he was at 10th position and only fight once time with the best fighter in heavyweight, now he's beat Makhachev which previously have beat Volkanovski. From my personal opinion, Makhachev should be on top 1, Volkanovski top 2 and then followed with Jones to be in top 3.




Who knows...  I guess every fighter in his weight class has to challenge him now as the greatest P4P tag makes it more enticing for each challenger.  As for me, who cares about the P4P rankings.  I just want to watch these guys throw leather and try to won some money from my lottery tickets.  

And I noticed there were parlays that had more than 5 legs each that almost hit.  I'll show how I make my tickets in my next parlay and see if you guys like the structure better.  It's a bit safer as you put your most confident picks at the top as a break even ticket then add the bottom ones with your less confident picks.

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March 09, 2023, 01:54:29 PM
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Funny how about few weeks ago top2 p4p beat top1 p4p and now is on third place Cheesy

I would be honest, I dont like Jon Jones because of his dirty fighting style. I dont like to see him on the first place. The guy was epsent for nearly three years, submitted a guy who is really bad at wrestling and instantly became best pound for pound fighter. He is just a good wrestler. But to avoid being not objective, I would better say that he is good wrestler, decent striker with perfect anthroponymy.
Yes, this is really a little discouraging, especially considering that Jones has not fought for three years. But why should we judge specialists who deal with ratings, they can see better how to do it right.

As a fighter, I like Jones, he walks in the ring like a tiger, a very confident fighter, but I don’t like his human qualities, the story when he got into a car accident, and ran away, marijuana found in car, and there was a pregnant girl in the car he crashed into, this too cowardly, but now is not about that.

He is a good fighter, but to see him number one in the ranking after a three-year break is really too strange.

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Just hope that p4p rating, as it is created separately from UFC by overall opinion, after "return of Jon Jones" hype is over, will be revised. People waited for his return, people dreamed to see him again, people got that. I even think that if he would have lost, he would still be high in that rating Cheesy

Lets get back to incoming event. What do you think about Volkov vs Romanov fight. Volkov has a zebra record during last years. Romanov was 16-0, but lost his last fight, which a lot of people thought was a draw. Seems a cool fight on a paper, that is advices to watch.

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Just hope that p4p rating, as it is created separately from UFC by overall opinion, after "return of Jon Jones" hype is over, will be revised. People waited for his return, people dreamed to see him again, people got that. I even think that if he would have lost, he would still be high in that rating Cheesy

Lets get back to incoming event. What do you think about Volkov vs Romanov fight. Volkov has a zebra record during last years. Romanov was 16-0, but lost his last fight, which a lot of people thought was a draw. Seems a cool fight on a paper, that is advices to watch.

Alexander Volkanovski is more experienced compared to Romanov. That is probably something which is going to give Alexander Volkanovski the advantage. This is a very well matched fight. And if anyone thinks that after me saying Alexander Volkanovski has a lot more experience he is a lot older as well, it is not true. Volkanovski is currently 34 years old and his opponent is 32.

If we talk about the ranking of P4P fighters, I think this is just happening because of the hype of John Jones. After the hype goes away there will be big changes in the ranking.

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Gane might be angry that Jon Jones exposed him completely and the rest of the fighters will be following the same path to victory against him  Cheesy.

Lets wait for Jones to make his first heavyweight title defence and make a conclusion if he really is the greatest or not Cheesy So far it looked like it was an easy win for him. Stipe Miocic promised to smash Jones. Hope we wont have to wait years before Jones fights again. Who else we have among heavyweights ? Pavlovich ? Imho that is going to be copy/paste fight against Gane. Imho a wrestler is needed to win, a wrestler that will counter Jones wrestling, the one who will be able to throw bombs.
Jon Jones does not need to fight again to cement his place as the greatest fighter in history, just look at his fighting career and he basically took on undefeated fighters throughout his career and even Jon Jones promised to stop Stipe Miocic before the championship rounds and with Stipe at 40 years and not fighting for the past two years, it will be a challenge for him against Jon Jones.

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No offense for this, but does Jon Jones is deserved to become top 1 P4P in men's UFC? he was at 10th position and only fight once time with the best fighter in heavyweight, now he's beat Makhachev which previously have beat Volkanovski. From my personal opinion, Makhachev should be on top 1, Volkanovski top 2 and then followed with Jones to be in top 3.
Jon Jones is basically undefeated in the UFC for the past decade fighting against the best, 15 title fights and he is regarded as the best ever to do that and he is the epitome of pound of pound best.
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Jon Jones does not need to fight again to cement his place as the greatest fighter in history, just look at his fighting career and he basically took on undefeated fighters throughout his career and even Jon Jones promised to stop Stipe Miocic before the championship rounds and with Stipe at 40 years and not fighting for the past two years, it will be a challenge for him against Jon Jones.
Jon Jones hit the top pound for pound ranking after finishing one fight, I was very surprised to find out the latest pound for pound list updates have been updated and it's hard to replace his position unless a fighter can clear him in his next fight, but I'm not sure for Stipe Miocic as he doesn't has the better fighting history than Jon Bones, he lost the heavyweight belt to Francis in his last fight, so Stipe's return won't change anything and if Jon Bones wins again in his next fight then the top pound for pound list position for Jon Jones is undefeated.
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