⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[snipie]

Barcelona is unlikely to let Messi go. And at the moment no one really needs him. Only if used as a brand to make money. They have already learned to play against him. By releasing Messi, Barcelona will have to go a long way without trophies. Are the fans ready for this?

Yesterday I read that Man City had offered a new deal for Messi. Not sure about PSG but those 2 teams are definitely searching to make him joining them.
Messi will walk for free from Barca and they can't do anything to stop him unless they manage to win something this season which is unlikely to happen this season.

[1714743800]

1714743800

[1714743800]

1714743800

[1714743800]

1714743800

[1714743800]

1714743800

[1714743800]

1714743800

[1714743800]

1714743800

[ILuckyGuyI]

Barcelona is unlikely to let Messi go. And at the moment no one really needs him. Only if used as a brand to make money. They have already learned to play against him. By releasing Messi, Barcelona will have to go a long way without trophies. Are the fans ready for this?

Yesterday I read that Man City had offered a new deal for Messi. Not sure about PSG but those 2 teams are definitely searching to make him joining them.
Messi will walk for free from Barca and they can't do anything to stop him unless they manage to win something this season which is unlikely to happen this season.

I think exactly the same thing. If Barcelona don't win the La Liga which seems hard, there won't be any reason for him to think about staying. I don't even talk about the CL because we can say that they are already eliminated. I don't talk about Copa Del Rey also because it doesn't carry as big importance as the La Liga. Even if Barcelona win the La Liga, it still doesn't seem to me like Messi will decide to stay.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Barcelona is unlikely to let Messi go. And at the moment no one really needs him. Only if used as a brand to make money. They have already learned to play against him. By releasing Messi, Barcelona will have to go a long way without trophies. Are the fans ready for this?

I don't agree with you that Messi is of no use to anyone. Of course Messi is not at the same level as before. Messi is essentially an advertising machine now. As for where he could be sold, I think it could be China. We all watch top players end their careers there.

You are right, although if it is not in China that they end up, it may be in the USA. But I don't think Messi will leave Barcelona, because since he was a child, Barcelona signed him and feels great sentimental value for the team, rather than selling for publicity, I think Messi is an icon for Barcelona and within his game, maybe don't have the same performance by age, but Messi resolve a game anytime.

[MCobian]

~

I don't agree with you that Messi is of no use to anyone. Of course Messi is not at the same level as before. Messi is essentially an advertising machine now. As for where he could be sold, I think it could be China. We all watch top players end their careers there.

You are right, although if it is not in China that they end up, it may be in the USA. But I don't think Messi will leave Barcelona, because since he was a child, Barcelona signed him and feels great sentimental value for the team, rather than selling for publicity, I think Messi is an icon for Barcelona and within his game, maybe don't have the same performance by age, but Messi resolve a game anytime.

Although there has been no decision regarding Messi's contract at Barcelona, I am still optimistic that Messi will extend his contract at Barcelona.
Because after all Barcelona and Messi already have very strong connections, I think Messi will end his career at Barcelona. So I agree with you,
it's possible that Messi will not leave Barcelona. Although his performance has indeed decreased, at least Messi could be the leader for the younger
players at Barcelona.

[AakZaki]

Everything goes to the fact that in the next round only Atletico Madrid will represent Spain. Barcelona and Sevilla lost. Real Madrid has half of the team injured. And if one more player is injured today, there is no one to replace.

The good news is Eden Hazard can play against Atalanta. Even though almost half of the Madrid players are injured I hope they can do well. A draw is a great result in my opinion. Despite last year's history of beating Valencia in the last big sixteen phase, madrid are a different team. Successive wins in La Liga will have a positive impact. Even if many of their core players were injured, they should be able to play equally well.

[AndySt]

Although there has been no decision regarding Messi's contract at Barcelona, I am still optimistic that Messi will extend his contract at Barcelona.
Because after all Barcelona and Messi already have very strong connections, I think Messi will end his career at Barcelona. So I agree with you,
it's possible that Messi will not leave Barcelona. Although his performance has indeed decreased, at least Messi could be the leader for the younger
players at Barcelona.

A lot depends on Messi's financial appetites and the financial condition of the club itself. It is no secret that Barcelona is experiencing some difficulties in financial terms and probably will not be able to pay its main star in the same amount. Another issue is that the current epidemic has hurt many clubs and clubs have to cut their budgets. But I still think that PSG and Manchester City have not abandoned their plans to sign a contract with Messi and we will be waiting for the continuation of the soap opera about the employment of the Argentine player.

[Expecto]

There is another draw in this round which is between Lazio and Bayern Munich. The first match is gonna be played in Stadio Olimpico. Lazio defeated Sampdoria 1-0 last. Bayern Munich didn't win their last 2 matches and lost to Frankfurt 2-1 in an away match last. L. Felipe, Radu and Strakosha are injured at Lazio. Tolisso, Pavard, D. Costa, Gnabry and Muller are injured at Bayern. Maybe Bayern weren't good for 2 matches but still I think Lazio have near zero chance to eliminate Bayern. I think Bayern won't lose even the first match.

[slaman29]

Everything goes to the fact that in the next round only Atletico Madrid will represent Spain. Barcelona and Sevilla lost. Real Madrid has half of the team injured. And if one more player is injured today, there is no one to replace.

The good news is Eden Hazard can play against Atalanta. Even though almost half of the Madrid players are injured I hope they can do well. A draw is a great result in my opinion. Despite last year's history of beating Valencia in the last big sixteen phase, madrid are a different team. Successive wins in La Liga will have a positive impact. Even if many of their core players were injured, they should be able to play equally well.

If they want to risk him being not yet at full fitness that is. Problem with Hazard is he's so brittle. Play him less than 100% and he tends to break even worse AND take even longer to heal from that.

Draw will be a super good result for sure, judging from the current injury situation.

[Bilgent]

Everything goes to the fact that in the next round only Atletico Madrid will represent Spain. Barcelona and Sevilla lost. Real Madrid has half of the team injured. And if one more player is injured today, there is no one to replace.

The good news is Eden Hazard can play against Atalanta. Even though almost half of the Madrid players are injured I hope they can do well. A draw is a great result in my opinion. Despite last year's history of beating Valencia in the last big sixteen phase, madrid are a different team. Successive wins in La Liga will have a positive impact. Even if many of their core players were injured, they should be able to play equally well.

If they want to risk him being not yet at full fitness that is. Problem with Hazard is he's so brittle. Play him less than 100% and he tends to break even worse AND take even longer to heal from that.

Draw will be a super good result for sure, judging from the current injury situation.

As far as I know, Hazard is still out for a few weeks. So it means that he will not play against Atalanta in the first game undoubtedly. But there is no certain thing for the rematch. Maybe we can see him in it. But the question is whether he will be able to adapt to the team again quickly after a long time.

[coinlocket$]

New week, new games.

Tuesday 23rd February
Atletico Madrid 20:00 Chelsea
Lazio 20:00 Bayern Munich

Wednesday 24th February
Atalanta 20:00 Real Madrid
M'gladbach 20:00 Manchester City

Source: https://www.skysports.com/champions-league-fixtures

Atalanta - Real could be a very interesting game, since Real seems not to be so strong and Atalanta is in a good shape, they just won 4-2 vs Napoli.

[youdacapt]

New week, new games.

Tuesday 23rd February
Atletico Madrid 20:00 Chelsea
Lazio 20:00 Bayern Munich

Wednesday 24th February
Atalanta 20:00 Real Madrid
M'gladbach 20:00 Manchester City

Source: https://www.skysports.com/champions-league-fixtures

Atalanta - Real could be a very interesting game, since Real seems not to be so strong and Atalanta is in a good shape, they just won 4-2 vs Napoli.

This is the champions league; where your league form or position is as useless as anything; in this regard i say Atletico Madrid will win chelsea with 3 goals; with a luis suarez brace.
While Lazio would trump Bayern Munich by 3 - 2 goals scoreline.

Real Madrid are a team of many colors; and which ever team shows up determines what kinda result to expect; but this is a tie where both teams score; a 2-2 draw is achievable.

[DIA7]

Monaco had a win yesterday against Paris Saint Germain by performance and result,
But what is important in this Is this result going to help Barcelona?
The answer is yes and no !! Yes, because that means that Remontada is possible and that Paris is a team that simply loses at home, and not because that means that the result of the go round was perhaps due to the weakness and fragility of Barca and not because of the terrifying strength of the Parisian club as we saw it !!

[CLS63]

Monaco had a win yesterday against Paris Saint Germain by performance and result,
But what is important in this Is this result going to help Barcelona?
The answer is yes and no !! Yes, because that means that Remontada is possible and that Paris is a team that simply loses at home, and not because that means that the result of the go round was perhaps due to the weakness and fragility of Barca and not because of the terrifying strength of the Parisian club as we saw it !!

Barcelona need to play so much better than their performance in the first game of the draw. 1-4 is a very hard score to make a comeback especially in an away game. As long as Barcelona don't improve their game, there is 0 chance that they can manage to do it with a poor performance. To be honest, I think PSG will win the second leg also.

[3meek]

Tomorrow I expect an interesting game Atletico VS Chelsea... I hope for a win for the home team... And I have no doubts about Bayern's victory against Lazio...

[judas]

Tomorrow I expect an interesting game Atletico VS Chelsea... I hope for a win for the home team... And I have no doubts about Bayern's victory against Lazio...

Atletico-Chelsea will be interesting for sure as both teams are really strong now. Even if Atletico lost points against Levante in their last two matches, they have been great for a long time and I think they will have a great performance in this match. Especially Suarez will be a very big threat for Chelsea. Tuchel's Chelsea have started playing awesome. They got a draw against Southampton in their last match but they are playing really nice in general. My favourite team for the first match are Atletico and I believe that they will be victorious.

[hd49728]

Atletico-Chelsea will be interesting for sure as both teams are really strong now. Even if Atletico lost points against Levante in their last two matches, they have been great for a long time and I think they will have a great performance in this match. Especially Suarez will be a very big threat for Chelsea. Tuchel's Chelsea have started playing awesome. They got a draw against Southampton in their last match but they are playing really nice in general. My favourite team for the first match are Atletico and I believe that they will be victorious.

The recent lost matches of Atletico are good for Chelsea as Athletico have some other considerations for La Liga and they won't be able to concentrate all resources for Champions League. Chelsea has improved their results with Thomas Tuchel. The new coach of Chelsea will want to experience another final match in Champions League. He was sacked after brought PSG to the final match last season so if he can help Chelsea to win the title, it will be a shock for PSG board of directors.

Chelsea have opportunity to win but I am keen on Atletico Madrid for this match.

[kassex]

Barcelona is unlikely to let Messi go. And at the moment no one really needs him. Only if used as a brand to make money. They have already learned to play against him. By releasing Messi, Barcelona will have to go a long way without trophies. Are the fans ready for this?

I don't agree with you that Messi is of no use to anyone. Of course Messi is not at the same level as before. Messi is essentially an advertising machine now. As for where he could be sold, I think it could be China. We all watch top players end their careers there.

I wrote about the same thing. Messi at the moment presents as a publicity stunt. He can bring a lot of money. But for this he must constantly play. And as the level decreases every year, it can bring problems already in the game plan.

[kayiboyu]

That won't come true, Barcelona's finances are in trouble. If able, I hope there will be two new players in the LB and RB position and 1 defensive midfielder. But they also still need a buzz up front like Suarez.

They will sell a couple of players who do not fit into the coach's plans. And I think it would be better if Messi was released. Otherwise, Barcelona will be out of the crisis for a long time. In La Liga they can still compete for the championship, but in the Champions League they can hardly count on anything. ...

I also think Messi should be let go. Barcelona needs to change their tactics in the short term. Because right now they are weaker than the top 5 leagues. I'm not even surprised they conceded 4 goals in the match.

Barcelona is unlikely to let Messi go. And at the moment no one really needs him. Only if used as a brand to make money. They have already learned to play against him. By releasing Messi, Barcelona will have to go a long way without trophies. Are the fans ready for this?

The fans should be already angry with Barcelona for having such a poor season. I accept that they have been quite good in the La Liga in the recent times but still it seems hard for them to win the title. In the CL, they are already finished by PSG also. In addition to these, fans will be very disappointed for sure if Barcelona can't keep him at the club. In short, it looks like Barcelona could be in a bigger trouble in the next season, in my opinion.

[blue Snow]

Tuesday 23rd February
Atletico Madrid 20:00 Chelsea
Lazio 20:00 Bayern Munich

I try my luck to pick Lazio in my bet. I know this is mission impossible to Lazio win the game, but this is football, anything can happen. I just use a last-game statistic where Lazio won versus Sampdoria and Bayern had down performed, lose in Frankfurt.

Atletico Madrid vs Chelsea = draw 
Chelsea always an achievement in the last game

[hd49728]

Tuesday 23rd February
Atletico Madrid 20:00 Chelsea
Lazio 20:00 Bayern Munich

Injured cases

A Madrid: Sime Vrsaljko, José Giménez, Yannick Ferreira-Carrasco, Hector Herrera
Chelsea:    Thiago Silva

Lazio: Stefan Daniel Radu, Luiz Felipe, Thomas Strakosha
Bayern Munich: Corentin Tolisso, Pavard, Costa, Gnabry, Thomas Müller, Nubel, Tillman

https://www.sportsgambler.com/football/injuries-suspensions/uefa-champions-league/

I try my luck to pick Lazio in my bet. I know this is mission impossible to Lazio win the game, but this is football, anything can happen. I just use a last-game statistic where Lazio won versus Sampdoria and Bayern had down performed, lose in Frankfurt.

Atletico Madrid vs Chelsea = draw 
Chelsea always an achievement in the last game

Atletico Madrid will win and Lazio will lose.

Atletico has more experience in Champions League. It is the 10th season in the coach position of A Madrid for Simeone and 8th seasons in the Champions League. In this league, within last 10 years, A Madrid is among the best clubs in records and they signed a contract with Suarez, one of the best scorers in Champions League.

Chelsea has some good results with Tuchel but this coach has some failures with PSG before the surprising final in the last season. Chelsea players have little experience in Champions League.

Lazio can have a draw with some injuries in Bayern Munich.