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December 10, 2020, 09:35:01 AM |
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Which team do you think is the biggest winner and the biggest loser in the group stage? - Biggest losers for me are Inter Milan for obvious reasons and Man United but they still managed a Europa League spot at least. - I think the biggest winners are Leipzig and for obvious reasons. They are both runners up but they were in a tough group.
Let's wait and see the result of the draw on December 14.
Hard to argue who has the worse loss, Inter completely failed and did not even get Europa, but they were probably not expected to make it actually since this was their first season back after a while. United on the other hand have an array of stars that could not find the wins. I feel like there is no easy second placed winners in the group either. Ajax probably is the one who feels they lost big.
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December 10, 2020, 10:24:56 AM |
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Which team do you think is the biggest winner and the biggest loser in the group stage? - Biggest losers for me are Inter Milan for obvious reasons and Man United but they still managed a Europa League spot at least. - I think the biggest winners are Leipzig and for obvious reasons. They are both runners up but they were in a tough group.
Inter Milan has the biggest lost, during the beginning of the season and towards ending of last season, Inter had been playing a very fantastic games ever winning on a consecutive roll in and out of their serie A league, but this failure to meet up an Europe league spot is something outrageous of them. Manchester united on the only hand is not a consistent winning club so you can't put trust on them for qualifying to round 16, at least they still gave hope to their fans for Europe international level.
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December 10, 2020, 11:13:13 AM |
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Agree actually, I know on paper it seems like Inter has the biggest loss, but I bet you it's United fans who are feeling the most annoyed right now. But you know what happens now. They lose big, so they'll hit back big, which means a United strong win against City. Time to bet big? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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December 10, 2020, 11:20:18 AM |
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Which team do you think is the biggest winner and the biggest loser in the group stage? - Biggest losers for me are Inter Milan for obvious reasons and Man United but they still managed a Europa League spot at least. - I think the biggest winners are Leipzig and for obvious reasons. They are both runners up but they were in a tough group.
Let's wait and see the result of the draw on December 14.
I want to disagree about the biggest loser; Inter milan were never certain of qualifying from the group stages from the onset; The biggest loser is Manchester United; they were top of the standings right from matchday 1; but they fluffed their chances; got too confident and the end bowed out to the europa league due to pressure. I am sure OLE must be gutted, the missed chances etc will haunt them even in the europa league
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December 10, 2020, 11:43:55 AM |
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Please, Zidane, Ramos, Benzema and all the crew, don't let me down tonight 😑
Hahaha. Hope they won't disappoint you. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Real Madrid, The Kings of Europe, have never been KO'd in the group stage in the entire history of the CL 💪 (Source)Lazio, Atalanta, Leipzig or Porto could be Madrid's opponents in the RO16 Which team do you think is the biggest winner and the biggest loser in the group stage?
Man Utd had a tough group, but what Inter did was so hilariously bad and embarrasing No Champions League, no Europa League, and no Serie A title cos we all know Juventus is gonna win it...poor fans :/
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December 10, 2020, 11:55:55 AM |
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Well, that group Inter was in was tough. But still, to be last in it is an underachievement. It did not help them that Shakhtar took 6 points off of Real Madrid, but they should have played better in that last game. Borussia Monchengladbach was really lucky to go through after they lost to Real, any other outcome in the Inter-Shakhtar game and they would be out.
So far, Bayern has showed the most during the group stages. I'm looking forward for the real thing to begin. Hopefully with some fans as well.
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I am surprised at the fact that Inter although much better in quality than Shakhtar and playing in their home field didn’t manage to get more than a draw yesterday night.They even are completely out from any major event in the International competitions now.
For whatever you can do, sometimes is destiny and the ball will not enter sometimes you make only 1 shot it got double deflection and it will enter, otherwise simetime you shot and a random Lukaku appears in front of the door and save the opponent. Anyway I'm so happy with the fail of Inter you have no idea even if now they can be more focused in the Seria A... but if they fail to win this week it can be the start of their end.
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December 10, 2020, 03:35:24 PM |
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I am surprised at the fact that Inter although much better in quality than Shakhtar and playing in their home field didn’t manage to get more than a draw yesterday night.They even are completely out from any major event in the International competitions now.
For whatever you can do, sometimes is destiny and the ball will not enter sometimes you make only 1 shot it got double deflection and it will enter, otherwise simetime you shot and a random Lukaku appears in front of the door and save the opponent. Anyway I'm so happy with the fail of Inter you have no idea even if now they can be more focused in the Seria A... but if they fail to win this week it can be the start of their end. I am not surprised with Inter Milan failed to qualify next stage and they failed to play on Europe League after finish on the last position in group B, just happen with Inter Milan after not success yet to win from Sakhtar Donesk although they have big chance after Madrid beat Borussia Mönchengladbach 2-0, I think if Inter Milan win last night Madrid and Inter will qualify to next stage but Inter just playing draw with Sakhtar Donesk and their chance to play for next stage champion league loss and become the first time for Inter Milan failed qualify in group stage.
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December 10, 2020, 03:42:22 PM |
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I am surprised of Inter, in last games they looked quite well and I was sure they should win Shakhtar Donetsk in Milan ! Anyway, we have last 16 and we will have at least one big game, as Barcelona FC is unseeded . (Unless Borussia will met them)
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December 10, 2020, 03:55:22 PM |
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I am surprised of Inter, in last games they looked quite well and I was sure they should win Shakhtar Donetsk in Milan ! Anyway, we have last 16 and we will have at least one big game, as Barcelona FC is unseeded . (Unless Borussia will met them)
Inter Milan are crying for not getting into the European league after the draw in the last game with Sakhtar this nightmare where they didn't reach the last 16 oh what a disappointment. Barcelona's performance is bad I am not so sure that it will be able to defend their position later but for sure with this beat at 16, hopefully we will meet a team that is able to beat it. Real Madrid is strong again after beating Gladbach, this is great Zidane is able to do.
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4 german teams have qualified now. that's really a great result . now we have to wait until monday . i'm really curious who bayern münchen has to play against . maybe it will come to a duel against barcelona again . and leipzig will definitely play against real madrid
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Anyway I'm so happy with the fail of Inter you have no idea even if now they can be more focused in the Seria A... but if they fail to win this week it can be the start of their end.
Their luck is bad, that's why they played so badly in the Champions League. I also think their main goal is Serie A. They are doing great in Serie A. They are in second place in the points table. They have been eliminated from the Champions League. I hope they do well in Serie A.
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I am very happy for Atalanta and Bergamo, their city. These guys are the best outsider in this year's Champions League. They will be giving headaches to all those teams that will be facing them. If you search for risky but rewarding bets for the next round, then look no further.
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I am very happy for Atalanta and Bergamo, their city. These guys are the best outsider in this year's Champions League. They will be giving headaches to all those teams that will be facing them. If you search for risky but rewarding bets for the next round, then look no further.
I was really surprised to see Atlanta's game. I expected Liverpool and Ajax from group D to go to the next round. But my guess was wrong. Although Ajax played well enough in yesterday's match, Atlanta won in the end. They scored in the 85th minute and won. Bad luck for Ajax.
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I am surprised of Inter, in last games they looked quite well and I was sure they should win Shakhtar Donetsk in Milan ! Anyway, we have last 16 and we will have at least one big game, as Barcelona FC is unseeded . (Unless Borussia will met them)
Shakhtar in the Europa League, they were able to do it. I didn’t expect from Inter that they will finish this Champions League in last place in the group, but this is football, everything is possible here. Will Conte be able to keep his position as head coach now, is there any news already? I think he has strengthened the team's morale, but that is not enough to achieve big goals.
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I really don't understand how the hell Ajax couldn't score even one goal yesterday. Ajax are a way more experienced team than Atalanta in Champions League. They are also very good in this season. Ajax needed to win the match to continue on CL. They had every advantage (like playing in their home stadium etc.). But interestingly, they didn't score a goal and lost the match in the end. Football can sometimes be very surprising.
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I am surprised of Inter, in last games they looked quite well and I was sure they should win Shakhtar Donetsk in Milan ! Anyway, we have last 16 and we will have at least one big game, as Barcelona FC is unseeded . (Unless Borussia will met them)
Inter didn't manage to score to Shakhtar Donetsk in both matches and ukrainian team twice overcame Real Madrid. so I won't consider Shakhtar as an obvious outsider of this group. they deserved even to qualify for the next stage of Champions League.
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They are also very good in this season. Ajax needed to win the match to continue on CL. They had every advantage (like playing in their home stadium etc.). But interestingly, they didn't score a goal and lost the match in the end. Football can sometimes be very surprising. Yes, football is full of the unexpected ( you never can tell what is to come or happen untill the final whistle is blown) and that's what makes it an interesting game. The more reasons why there should be no manipulation or fixing of games by any person or body. But yeah, should we look at the do called advantage like playing from your home, is it really an advantage? Especially in this era of the pandemic where you've got zero encouragement from the fans. For a fact, pitch don't score goals plus, they've got precised measurements across all stadiums. Though, some may argue that, there might be precised accustomed angles to a few players that makes targeting the goal more easier compared to opposition players but, it's just another claim.
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December 10, 2020, 09:59:16 PM |
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I am surprised of Inter, in last games they looked quite well and I was sure they should win Shakhtar Donetsk in Milan ! Anyway, we have last 16 and we will have at least one big game, as Barcelona FC is unseeded . (Unless Borussia will met them)
Inter Milan are crying for not getting into the European league after the draw in the last game with Sakhtar this nightmare where they didn't reach the last 16 oh what a disappointment. Barcelona's performance is bad I am not so sure that it will be able to defend their position later but for sure with this beat at 16, hopefully we will meet a team that is able to beat it. Real Madrid is strong again after beating Gladbach, this is great Zidane is able to do. Barcelona really blew chances, securing the top spot would have been really favorable, but as it stand there is no easy potential opponent for them, and at the best they face Borrusia Dortmund ? or Chelsea... other than those, it's Bayern, Liverpool, PSG or Manchester City... Although, I still believe a lot could still change about the teams chemistry and performance as the knockout stages is still a few months away.
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Yes, football is full of the unexpected ( you never can tell what is to come or happen untill the final whistle is blown) and that's what makes it an interesting game. The more reasons why there should be no manipulation or fixing of games by any person or body. But yeah, should we look at the do called advantage like playing from your home, is it really an advantage? Especially in this era of the pandemic where you've got zero encouragement from the fans. For a fact, pitch don't score goals plus, they've got precised measurements across all stadiums. Though, some may argue that, there might be precised accustomed angles to a few players that makes targeting the goal more easier compared to opposition players but, it's just another claim.
As for the game at home, there is a clear advantage that the hosts do not have to get very far to their own stadium, unlike the visiting team. This can be even more clearly expressed in the air travel of the visiting team in the case of the Champions League and the associated certain inconveniences. As for the familiar field, perhaps there is a reasonable sense, but I don't seem to remember such cases when some football player claimed about the advantage of familiar bumps in his stadium.
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