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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129356 times)
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October 20, 2021, 09:16:32 AM
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should have been a team-mate to give Messi a chance to make a hat-trick but yes, maybe it is a form of respect among the team.

I think it's respect, yes. Mbappe has explained what happened:

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After the match, Mbappe revealed the reasoning behind their unexpected sharing of penalties.
"[On the penalties] It's normal [that I let Messi take the first], it's about respect," the PSG No. 7 told Canal+.
"He's the best player in the world, it's a privilege that he plays with us, I've always said it. 
"If there's a penalty, he's the one that takes it, full stop. On the second one, he told me 'Take it', it was at the end, he gave it to me and I took it."

Mbappe won the first penalty, and gave it to Messi to take... Probably Messi felt grateful, and then with the second penalty, in injury time, with the match already won, Messi returned the favour.






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October 20, 2021, 09:18:42 AM
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In today's matches I bet on the victories of Bayern Munich, Juventus and Manchester United. Bayern, apart from the setback with Eintracht, has recently simply been destroying all its rivals, both in the Bundesliga and the Champions League. Juventus will be competing with Chelsea for the first place in the group so they have to win against weaker rivals. Theoretically, the most difficult task has Manchester United, which hosts the unpredictable Atalanta, but I believe that the Red Devils will beat their rival.

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October 20, 2021, 09:22:21 AM
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Manchester United will face Atalanta. Even though Man United is playing at home, there is no guarantee that they will be able to beat Atalanta because Man United is in bad shape. Since losing to Young Boys, Man United's performances have been erratic and obviously, this is a problem.

Actually Man United has good players, it's just that they haven't been able to play solidly and their defense looks so fragile. If there is no improvement in performance, then Man United will have a hard time beating Atalanta.
Placing a bet on Manchester united to win is the most riskiest bet anyone will engage in this season. No I'm not doubting the fact that united has a very good squad but their key problem is coaching and team management. The only ground by which united would secure their win against Atlanta is only if Ole goes on a compulsory leave ahead of the match which is impossible.
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October 20, 2021, 09:34:13 AM
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A great Liverpool performance yesterday - although Griezmann's red card helped them to take the game under control. Atletico showed once again that you cannot relax against them, they will use whatever opportunities you give them. Still, scoring 3 goals against them is really hard to do - Liverpool attack is really on fire recently.
Atletico Madrid has struggled quite optimally in that match, even though they were 2-0 down but they were able to rise to level the score, but unfortunately the red card received by Griezman, made Liverpool even more daring to press the Atletico Madrid defense, even though they played with 10 people Liverpool were very difficult to beat Athletico in that match, but Liverpool were lucky enough to get a penalty, which made them more confident because they were in win condition.

The first half of the match ended in a very competitive match but getting a red card from Griezmann in the second half was the turning point of the match. A completely unexpected event. Yet Atletico Madrid had a chance to draw the match. However I lost the bet in this match. I didn't think Atletico Madrid would lose the home match against Liverpool. Because Atletico Madrid's performance in the last match against Liverpool was very good.

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October 20, 2021, 09:54:38 AM
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It definitely looks like Milan goes out and most can hope for is Europa, unless they win all their remaining games and Liverpool win their next (except against Milan).
I think this is the first time that AC Milan has lost the first three matches in the group stage of the Champions League. Maybe maybe they have not adapted to the uefa Champions league football yet after they have been off for many years now. It’s a bit surprising that they are unbeaten in the Serie A and AC Milan can't find a way to win in the Champions League, or even grab a point after three games. Maybe they’re wanted yo turn things around against Porto but they were without many of the first team players like the goalkeeper, Mike Maignan, suspended Kessie, Ante Rebic and Theo Hernandez, who tested positive for Covid. It’s just not right that a club that was dominant in the competition is now struggling to get a point in three games.

I don't know the stats but yeah, what a harsh way to come back into the Champions League after so long missing. Back when Milan and Liverpool were the 2 giants getting to UCL finals, no one ever saw either one would miss out so many years in a stretch. Liverpool came back and bossed the others so well, Milan are struggling but no one will blame them for failing in the first attempt. It's never easy to come back to elite competition. Would love to see them in there though instead of Porto.

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October 20, 2021, 10:02:11 AM
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Manchester United will face Atalanta. Even though Man United is playing at home, there is no guarantee that they will be able to beat Atalanta because Man United is in bad shape. Since losing to Young Boys, Man United's performances have been erratic and obviously, this is a problem.

Actually Man United has good players, it's just that they haven't been able to play solidly and their defense looks so fragile. If there is no improvement in performance, then Man United will have a hard time beating Atalanta.
Placing a bet on Manchester united to win is the most riskiest bet anyone will engage in this season. No I'm not doubting the fact that united has a very good squad but their key problem is coaching and team management. The only ground by which united would secure their win against Atlanta is only if Ole goes on a compulsory leave ahead of the match which is impossible.

Even if it sounds odd, I totally agree with you. Man Utd obviously has issues not only on the pitch but on their bench as well. Ole isn't the proper manager for this Man Utd team and if the management continues to support him (for some reason which I can't "understand"), Man Utd's problems will continue and will become bigger as the time passes. OFC they have a very good team but they don't have an equal manager. Maybe they wait for the upcoming transfer period to hire a new manager but until then, the damage will have been done.

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October 20, 2021, 10:04:47 AM
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Theoretically, the most difficult task has Manchester United, which hosts the unpredictable Atalanta, but I believe that the Red Devils will beat their rival.

Manchester United's performance in the last few matches is very unstable. They are not performing well. Ronaldo is not playing well. At the same time their strong midfield lineup completely failed. Manchester United has conceded four goals against Leicester. Their defense is still unstable. In that case, it will be very difficult to win against an experienced team like Atalanta. If Ronaldo can score two goals today, Manchester United will win, otherwise they will lose today's match as usual.

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October 20, 2021, 10:23:12 AM
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The match against Atalanta is a very important match for Manchester United, which is currently in decline in its performance in recent weeks, although Manchester United have a fairly capable squad at the moment, they are not able to play consistently and often make fatal mistakes that result in defeat and coupled with Solskjaer lack of reliability in concocting tactical strategies so that variations in play made Manchester United worse off.
The manchester united Vs Atalanta match is very worth watching and I want to see ronaldo experience in the champions league whether it will really motivate other manchester united players to win against atlanta, moreover I see ronaldo is very excited to welcome the match against atlatanta on his instagram story.

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October 20, 2021, 10:28:30 AM
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Manchester United's performance in the last few matches is very unstable. They are not performing well. Ronaldo is not playing well. At the same time their strong midfield lineup completely failed. Manchester United has conceded four goals against Leicester. Their defense is still unstable. In that case, it will be very difficult to win against an experienced team like Atalanta. If Ronaldo can score two goals today, Manchester United will win, otherwise they will lose today's match as usual.
It is true that Manchester United last few matches are not making any good sense because the Manchester United are not playing as their fans wanted them to. But Champions League can be of a surprise and this is just the group stage, I am not bothered with today's game because Man United will find a way to enter the round of 16 which is where I fear more and also as the game continues, as the matches will become more difficult, I do not think Man United will go far if no changes about the club.

About today match in Old Trafford, Atlanta is not that good in home matches so far, but away matches is what they do not joke with at all, but in Seria A. Let us see what will happen, but likely it will be a tough game for Man United.

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October 20, 2021, 10:37:03 AM
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this disparity in odds is very strange, atalanta is a strong team and manchester united is a weak team, but why they giving all that advantage to manchester united? are Oddsmaker underestimating the atalanta? I'm thinking about betting on atalanta

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this disparity in odds is very strange, atalanta is a strong team and manchester united is a weak team, but why they giving all that advantage to manchester united? are Oddsmaker underestimating the atalanta? I'm thinking about betting on atalanta
I think Manchester United will playing hard on this match because only winning match could make guarantee position for Ole, if loss again just waiting with Zidane or Conte become new manager for Manchester United. Many issues about Ole will departed from his position if loss in this match and he got many warning before and against with Atlanta as his proof about he is right men as Manchester United position although four years without one trophy giving for Manchester United.

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October 20, 2021, 10:45:14 AM
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Champions League Results Today:

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Club Brugge 1 vs 5 Manchester City

Besiktas 1 vs 4 Sporting Lisbon

PSG 3 vs 2 RB Leipzig

Atletico Madrid 2 vs 3 Liverpool

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Ajax 4 vs 0 Borussia Dortmund

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Almost all the matches went as I expected, especially producing high goal margins.

I think there have been a few surprises. The biggest surprise was certainly Ajax's big win over Dortmund. Could just as well have gone the other way, after Dortmund has played very well lately. But it is the old problem of Dortmund: the continuity. Sometimes they play world-class against top teams, and the next time they play weak against a second-class team.
I was also surprised by Real's big win and Porto's win over Milan and the problems a top-set PSG team had against an injury-weak Leipzig team.
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October 20, 2021, 10:46:57 AM
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this disparity in odds is very strange, atalanta is a strong team and manchester united is a weak team, but why they giving all that advantage to manchester united? are Oddsmaker underestimating the atalanta? I'm thinking about betting on atalanta

I disagree. I would say that in general or historically Manchester United is an absolute top tier Team while Atlanta Bergamo played hardly any role in the european championships. It is true though that recently Atlanta was showing some very convincing performances in the italian Serie a and also in the Champions League while Manchester United had a pretty rouge start into this season. Still Manchester United should be the favorite here. Just look at the market  value of the squads.
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October 20, 2021, 10:49:49 AM
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Hala Madrid !
It's great that they won 5-0 over Shaktar. This is a sign that Madrid has not finished in the UCL. I think Shaktar can hold Madrid to a draw because seeing the history of matches Shaktar can always make it difficult for Madrid even their last 2 matches can always make Madrid cry.
Thanks to this victory, Madrid are in second place and Inter are down in 3rd place because they only got 4 points. There are still 3 games left. This makes the competition to qualify for the next phase more interesting, but I hope Madrid can sweep away victory in the remaining matches so they can qualify comfortably.
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I think there have been a few surprises. The biggest surprise was certainly Ajax's big win over Dortmund. Could just as well have gone the other way, after Dortmund has played very well lately. But it is the old problem of Dortmund: the continuity. Sometimes they play world-class against top teams, and the next time they play weak against a second-class team.
The only big surprise for me is the big defeat of Dortmund. This bad match will put Dortmund in a dangerous race with other clubs in their group. Haaland can not answer Mbappe with a goal and worse, Dortmund was beaten by 4 goals from Ajax. Matches like this will only convince Haaland to leave Dortmund and find a stronger, more ambitious club.

I think Haaland understands that Dortmund can not help him to win titles especially in Champions League. However it is a good club for Haaland to play as a main striker and at his age, playing regularly is important. It helps Haaland to sharpen his skills.

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October 20, 2021, 11:30:07 AM
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MANCHESTER UNITED VS ATLANTA BC

When Manchester United is actually predictable, this is a 3 : 1 match in favour of Manchester United. But I don't actually know what Ole got in stock for us.
I learnt Fred is back and will appear in Manchester United midfield tonight to complete his epileptic passes.
I don't know if the case of Fred is because of the team or the coach, because he does pretty well when playing for Brazil.
Dear Fred, do we allow you play for Manchester United wearing Brazil Jersey? Or should we rename the club to Brazil Chester United?
Please I need your reply, Thanks!

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October 20, 2021, 11:37:09 AM
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Hala Madrid !
It's great that they won 5-0 over Shaktar. This is a sign that Madrid has not finished in the UCL. I think Shaktar can hold Madrid to a draw because seeing the history of matches Shaktar can always make it difficult for Madrid even their last 2 matches can always make Madrid cry.
Thanks to this victory, Madrid are in second place and Inter are down in 3rd place because they only got 4 points. There are still 3 games left. This makes the competition to qualify for the next phase more interesting, but I hope Madrid can sweep away victory in the remaining matches so they can qualify comfortably.
This was to be expected also last season. I'm glad for Ancelotti and the fact that there is a result which means that we can expect the club to strengthen well in the winter and the transfer market.

Liverpool won and the match was very interesting Griezmann remembered how to score and this is the main thing but in the end he is an antihero. People will forget this and the goals will remain in the statistics.
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October 20, 2021, 11:41:37 AM
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this disparity in odds is very strange, atalanta is a strong team and manchester united is a weak team, but why they giving all that advantage to manchester united? are Oddsmaker underestimating the atalanta? I'm thinking about betting on atalanta
I think Manchester United will playing hard on this match because only winning match could make guarantee position for Ole, if loss again just waiting with Zidane or Conte become new manager for Manchester United. Many issues about Ole will departed from his position if loss in this match and he got many warning before and against with Atlanta as his proof about he is right men as Manchester United position although four years without one trophy giving for Manchester United.
Manchester United not only played hard but had to win the game against Atlanta, but it was not easy because Atalanta is famous for its attractive game and Manchester United often struggles against teams that are defending.
and Atlanta will definitely play more defensively to maintain its position at the top of the standings, it looks like Ole loses or draws against Atlanta later will be increasingly threatened.
and it looks like the match will be very fierce especially Manchester United will field their best squad, but my prediction is that the final score of the match will end in a draw. Grin

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October 20, 2021, 12:13:54 PM
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Atletico's defeat made the Group B competition quite Interesting. AC Milan may be the team that does not qualify in this group. Although there is a chance if Milan win the remaining 2 from 3 matches when they meet Atletico & Porto in the 2nd leg, with Atletico vs Porto results draw and both lose to Liverpool. However, this may be difficult to achieve. I think the candidates are Barcelona & Atletico going to the next round.

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October 20, 2021, 12:38:28 PM
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I guess Malmo FF still needs some time to improve the quality of their squad before they can stand a chance to beat favorite teams in the Uefa Champions League. Even though the odds payout on Chelsea to win the match in full time against Malmo FF is only @1.08, but I think it should be an easy task for Chelsea to beat Malmo FF at their home stadium today.

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