2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[Kelvinid]

I like that script Kabayan, lucky to those who really applying that mindset as they really enjoying the betting side of this series, we can't remove that mentality with fans and bettors as they understand how the business works and how profitable it can be if the series will proceed and make more games in extending the series.

Congrats and I see that you are going to make good money in it, as you really have that nerve in taking the risk when placing your bet.

The game seemed to be very predictable, as it looks like they want to extend this series to at least six games. Brownlee not scoring well is questionable, so it's hard to rely on our emotions. We should play smart and, by doing so, it seems like Ginebra should win the next game.

Bet against the Public, it will work in PBA like a charm.

I didn’t expect to win TNT like this, wondering as well why it turns out to be a low scoring game and Brownlee didn’t score that much, well maybe TNT did a great job on their defensive strategy and it works for them. Going into game 3, i still think TNT will take it and from their, Ginebra will start to have a good run until they take the championship. This is a good for the fans and for the bettor, let’s enjoy it.

At this point, we can only guess what will happen. It's not about how good the team is, as the organization might do everything to bring this series to the Philippine Arena. It can become boring, actually, since it looks like we already know what's going to happen. However, for bettors, this should be an opportunity.

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[Distinctin]

What do you think the odds will be for Game 3? So far, the favorites have been winning and covering the spread. Most likely, if Ginebra is listed as the favorite, they will only be a slight favorite with a maximum of -2.5 points. That spread is quite easy to cover provided that the Gin Kings win, and Brownlee? He was not a big factor in Game 2, but he is sure to bounce back, so watch out for that.

In the last two games, the total score has gone under, so I guess we should follow that trend.

[Sanitough]

What do you think the odds will be for Game 3? So far, the favorites have been winning and covering the spread. Most likely, if Ginebra is listed as the favorite, they will only be a slight favorite with a maximum of -2.5 points. That spread is quite easy to cover provided that the Gin Kings win, and Brownlee? He was not a big factor in Game 2, but he is sure to bounce back, so watch out for that.

The odds are out, but the spread is not -2.5. It's -4.5 for the Gin Kings, which may not be attractive enough. However, knowing that the public always supports Ginebra, there are still some bettors who might take the spread.

The moneyline is 1.52, and the total is 206.5.

In the last two games, the total score has gone under, so I guess we should follow that trend.

The total has been adjusted. Maybe this is another game that will not reach 200 points.

[Questat]

I have some doubts about Game 3. Of course, people will expect Ginebra to bounce back and take the lead, but what if that's not the script? I guess I have to be more careful here. Instead, I will focus on the total score since this game is very physical. Under seems to be the best play for me.

First game total 192
2nd game total 177

The average is only 184.5 points.

[Russlenat]

I have some doubts about Game 3. Of course, people will expect Ginebra to bounce back and take the lead, but what if that's not the script? I guess I have to be more careful here. Instead, I will focus on the total score since this game is very physical. Under seems to be the best play for me.

First game total 192
2nd game total 177

The average is only 184.5 points.

If we base it on the average total scores of both teams in the last two games, then the under will likely hit.

The total now, according to @Sanitough, is 209.5, which is too far compared to the average. I understand the basis of the bookies as they might still be based on the average of these two teams during the regular games, so the law of averages will likely come into play. It's still very unpredictable though. So you're right, we need to be careful here.

[Fredomago]

What do you think the odds will be for Game 3? So far, the favorites have been winning and covering the spread. Most likely, if Ginebra is listed as the favorite, they will only be a slight favorite with a maximum of -2.5 points. That spread is quite easy to cover provided that the Gin Kings win, and Brownlee? He was not a big factor in Game 2, but he is sure to bounce back, so watch out for that.

In the last two games, the total score has gone under, so I guess we should follow that trend.

Or, bookies are really playing with the sentiments of the bettors we really can't tell if how the directions of the game will proceed, TNT win game 2 with a convincing deficits same with how Gin kings win game 1, it's something that bettors will need to analyze and assess how to place their bets.

I also noticed that favorites and under is the current trend and with that trend might be possible to take some spare to bet for Gin king and under coming game 3.

I have some doubts about Game 3. Of course, people will expect Ginebra to bounce back and take the lead, but what if that's not the script? I guess I have to be more careful here. Instead, I will focus on the total score since this game is very physical. Under seems to be the best play for me.

First game total 192
2nd game total 177

The average is only 184.5 points.

If we base it on the average total scores of both teams in the last two games, then the under will likely hit.

The total now, according to @Sanitough, is 209.5, which is too far compared to the average. I understand the basis of the bookies as they might still be based on the average of these two teams during the regular games, so the law of averages will likely come into play. It's still very unpredictable though. So you're right, we need to be careful here.

If both teams will showcase their full potential, I will agree that they can cover it, and you are right bookies also considering that possibility that high scoring can be done if both teams will be more aggressive coming this game 3. Carefully assess and make your decision according to how you project the possible outcome.

[Hypnosis00]

If both teams will showcase their full potential, I will agree that they can cover it, and you are right bookies also considering that possibility that high scoring can be done if both teams will be more aggressive coming this game 3. Carefully assess and make your decision according to how you project the possible outcome.

I think they have already shown their full potential. These two teams are not only good offensively but are also good defensively. So what we witnessed in the last two games were more of a defensive game, and that is just normal because they are already in the Finals. Every game matters.

[Natalim]

If both teams will showcase their full potential, I will agree that they can cover it, and you are right bookies also considering that possibility that high scoring can be done if both teams will be more aggressive coming this game 3. Carefully assess and make your decision according to how you project the possible outcome.

I think they have already shown their full potential. These two teams are not only good offensively but are also good defensively. So what we witnessed in the last two games were more of a defensive game, and that is just normal because they are already in the Finals. Every game matters.

The best bet is definitely the under. Both teams have been struggling with their 3-point shooting in the last two games. The only way for these teams to go over is if both of them start shooting well. Based on the official site's records, the shooting percentages of the two teams in the previous games are as follows:

Game 1 - BGSM 41%, TNT 25%;
Game 2 - BGSM 24%, TNT 42%.

Therefore, for both teams to hit the over, they need to improve their performance from beyond the arc.

[LogitechMouse]

What do you think the odds will be for Game 3? So far, the favorites have been winning and covering the spread. Most likely, if Ginebra is listed as the favorite, they will only be a slight favorite with a maximum of -2.5 points. That spread is quite easy to cover provided that the Gin Kings win, and Brownlee? He was not a big factor in Game 2, but he is sure to bounce back, so watch out for that.

In the last two games, the total score has gone under, so I guess we should follow that trend.

As expected, Ginebra is the favorite currently base on the odds on Stake.


With how the TNT played in Game 2, I think they can also win in Game 3 as well. I mean if they somehow know how to stop Brownlee from getting red hot in shooting, and somehow stop Standhardinger, then they have a chance. He really wasn't a big factor in Game 2, and I didn't know the adjustments that the TNT did since I didn't watch most of Game 2, but I think they know what they'll do to stop him. On the other hand, I wonder what will be the adjustments of the Ginebra in order for them to win in Game 3.

I'll put my bet on TNT on this one just because of how they played. I believe that the locals of the TNT are better than that of Ginebra (for me). TNT as the winner, and TNT +4.5 on Handicap are my bets.

[Questat]

I'll put my bet on TNT on this one just because of how they played. I believe that the locals of the TNT are better than that of Ginebra (for me). TNT as the winner, and TNT +4.5 on Handicap are my bets.

I definitely like the TNT as well, but I'm willing to take a riskier bet to get the moneyline odds. It's a seven-game series, so winning this game isn't critical as there's still Game 4 to even out the series. Hopefully, the officials won't be biased and allow the better team to win.

The reason I like the TNT is because of their attractive odds, which is the only reason.

[Ziskinberg]

I'll put my bet on TNT on this one just because of how they played. I believe that the locals of the TNT are better than that of Ginebra (for me). TNT as the winner, and TNT +4.5 on Handicap are my bets.

I definitely like the TNT as well, but I'm willing to take a riskier bet to get the moneyline odds. It's a seven-game series, so winning this game isn't critical as there's still Game 4 to even out the series. Hopefully, the officials won't be biased and allow the better team to win.

The reason I like the TNT is because of their attractive odds, which is the only reason.

Essentially, you're suggesting that games could be rigged, right?

Well, there is a possibility, and if we consider that as a significant factor, then there's no need to consider who the better team is between the two. Even if the better team wins the game, they might fail to cover the spread, allowing bookies to make a decent profit.

It seems like it has become a mind game, with bookmakers doing their job, and bettors doing their best to win. However, the best way to win is by using a martingale strategy, as we've seen in this series, which is quite close.

[bisdak40]

I'll put my bet on TNT on this one just because of how they played. I believe that the locals of the TNT are better than that of Ginebra (for me). TNT as the winner, and TNT +4.5 on Handicap are my bets.

I definitely like the TNT as well, but I'm willing to take a riskier bet to get the moneyline odds. It's a seven-game series, so winning this game isn't critical as there's still Game 4 to even out the series. Hopefully, the officials won't be biased and allow the better team to win.

The reason I like the TNT is because of their attractive odds, which is the only reason.

Bookies have put attractive odds for TNT because like our speculations that game 3 would be won by Ginebra as this is a see-saw battle that we are all expecting but that remains to be seen but i have bet for TNT +5.5 @1.92 because i think that even though Ginebra wins but it's gonna be a close one like we are seeing now with the score tied at 49 apiece with 2 minutes before half time.

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lost my bet as i deviated from the script hehe. TNT lost by a margin of 16 big points, credit that to the hot shooting of Malonzo, Brownlee and Pringle from the rainbow country. Not all was lost for me as i have betted that this game would be under 222.5 and it fortunately it didn't go over that figure.

[LogitechMouse]

I'll put my bet on TNT on this one just because of how they played. I believe that the locals of the TNT are better than that of Ginebra (for me). TNT as the winner, and TNT +4.5 on Handicap are my bets.

I definitely like the TNT as well, but I'm willing to take a riskier bet to get the moneyline odds. It's a seven-game series, so winning this game isn't critical as there's still Game 4 to even out the series. Hopefully, the officials won't be biased and allow the better team to win.

The reason I like the TNT is because of their attractive odds, which is the only reason.

Bookies have put attractive odds for TNT because like our speculations that game 3 would be won by Ginebra as this is a see-saw battle that we are all expecting but that remains to be seen but i have bet for TNT +5.5 @1.92 because i think that even though Ginebra wins but it's gonna be a close one like we are seeing now with the score tied at 49 apiece with 2 minutes before half time.

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lost my bet as i deviated from the script hehe. TNT lost by a margin of 16 big points, credit that to the hot shooting of Malonzo, Brownlee and Pringle from the rainbow country. Not all was lost for me as i have betted that this game would be under 222.5 and it fortunately it didn't go over that figure.

3 points away from losing your bet, but anyway I guess it's good that I'm quite busy when the game happened because I'm thinking of putting my bet on TNT before the game, but Ginebra took Game 3, and got the lead again in this series 2-1

After scoring only 12 points (his 3rd lowest score output in his PBA career), Brownlee stepped up, and lead his team with 29 points, and all 5 of their starters scored in double digits while 3 of them scored 20+ points. I think the TNT just surprised on how Pringle stepped up on this game. I mean he wasn't the Pringle that we used to see when he's in Global Port where he is averaging more than 20+ points, but he can step up, and be a reliable scorer when needed the most, and it happened on this one. 22 points with no missed shot at all, and the best part on his stats is that he is 6/6 from 3-pt area. That's an impressive one coming from him I must say.

RHJ lead the TNT on the other hand with 32 points, but the locals didn't helped that much in terms of offense. 4 of the locals scored 10+ points, but that wasn't enough for them to win on this game. I guess it would be better for the TNT if the offense will be spread even more compare to if there's only 1 focal person on offense.

Anyway, Game 4 is on Sunday. TNT winning Game 4? Maybe 

[Fredomago]

I'll put my bet on TNT on this one just because of how they played. I believe that the locals of the TNT are better than that of Ginebra (for me). TNT as the winner, and TNT +4.5 on Handicap are my bets.

I definitely like the TNT as well, but I'm willing to take a riskier bet to get the moneyline odds. It's a seven-game series, so winning this game isn't critical as there's still Game 4 to even out the series. Hopefully, the officials won't be biased and allow the better team to win.

The reason I like the TNT is because of their attractive odds, which is the only reason.

Bookies have put attractive odds for TNT because like our speculations that game 3 would be won by Ginebra as this is a see-saw battle that we are all expecting but that remains to be seen but i have bet for TNT +5.5 @1.92 because i think that even though Ginebra wins but it's gonna be a close one like we are seeing now with the score tied at 49 apiece with 2 minutes before half time.

edit:

lost my bet as i deviated from the script hehe. TNT lost by a margin of 16 big points, credit that to the hot shooting of Malonzo, Brownlee and Pringle from the rainbow country. Not all was lost for me as i have betted that this game would be under 222.5 and it fortunately it didn't go over that figure.

3 points away from losing your bet, but anyway I guess it's good that I'm quite busy when the game happened because I'm thinking of putting my bet on TNT before the game, but Ginebra took Game 3, and got the lead again in this series 2-1

After scoring only 12 points (his 3rd lowest score output in his PBA career), Brownlee stepped up, and lead his team with 29 points, and all 5 of their starters scored in double digits while 3 of them scored 20+ points. I think the TNT just surprised on how Pringle stepped up on this game. I mean he wasn't the Pringle that we used to see when he's in Global Port where he is averaging more than 20+ points, but he can step up, and be a reliable scorer when needed the most, and it happened on this one. 22 points with no missed shot at all, and the best part on his stats is that he is 6/6 from 3-pt area. That's an impressive one coming from him I must say.

RHJ lead the TNT on the other hand with 32 points, but the locals didn't helped that much in terms of offense. 4 of the locals scored 10+ points, but that wasn't enough for them to win on this game. I guess it would be better for the TNT if the offense will be spread even more compare to if there's only 1 focal person on offense.

Anyway, Game 4 is on Sunday. TNT winning Game 4? Maybe 

And as I remember, coach Cone mentioned that Pringle will always be there for the team. When he's needed, he knows his player, and he knows the capability of this gunner, and we all witness what he contributed to this game. I like the adjustment where TNT can't find the way to counter while competing in game 3.

As how fans anticipated, Brownlee's monstrous performance influence everyone beside him. If you see your best player playing on this level, you also wanted to ride and work with him with your best too, right?

Game will be interesting as if Gin kings will continue their run and win it will be tough for TNT to catch up but if TNT will again manage to tie the series, we might expect a do-or-die series, too early for that I guess..

[Shamm]

I'll put my bet on TNT on this one just because of how they played. I believe that the locals of the TNT are better than that of Ginebra (for me). TNT as the winner, and TNT +4.5 on Handicap are my bets.

I definitely like the TNT as well, but I'm willing to take a riskier bet to get the moneyline odds. It's a seven-game series, so winning this game isn't critical as there's still Game 4 to even out the series. Hopefully, the officials won't be biased and allow the better team to win.

The reason I like the TNT is because of their attractive odds, which is the only reason.

Bookies have put attractive odds for TNT because like our speculations that game 3 would be won by Ginebra as this is a see-saw battle that we are all expecting but that remains to be seen but i have bet for TNT +5.5 @1.92 because i think that even though Ginebra wins but it's gonna be a close one like we are seeing now with the score tied at 49 apiece with 2 minutes before half time.

edit:

lost my bet as i deviated from the script hehe. TNT lost by a margin of 16 big points, credit that to the hot shooting of Malonzo, Brownlee and Pringle from the rainbow country. Not all was lost for me as i have betted that this game would be under 222.5 and it fortunately it didn't go over that figure.

3 points away from losing your bet, but anyway I guess it's good that I'm quite busy when the game happened because I'm thinking of putting my bet on TNT before the game, but Ginebra took Game 3, and got the lead again in this series 2-1

After scoring only 12 points (his 3rd lowest score output in his PBA career), Brownlee stepped up, and lead his team with 29 points, and all 5 of their starters scored in double digits while 3 of them scored 20+ points. I think the TNT just surprised on how Pringle stepped up on this game. I mean he wasn't the Pringle that we used to see when he's in Global Port where he is averaging more than 20+ points, but he can step up, and be a reliable scorer when needed the most, and it happened on this one. 22 points with no missed shot at all, and the best part on his stats is that he is 6/6 from 3-pt area. That's an impressive one coming from him I must say.

RHJ lead the TNT on the other hand with 32 points, but the locals didn't helped that much in terms of offense. 4 of the locals scored 10+ points, but that wasn't enough for them to win on this game. I guess it would be better for the TNT if the offense will be spread even more compare to if there's only 1 focal person on offense.

Anyway, Game 4 is on Sunday. TNT winning Game 4? Maybe 

And as I remember, coach Cone mentioned that Pringle will always be there for the team. When he's needed, he knows his player, and he knows the capability of this gunner, and we all witness what he contributed to this game. I like the adjustment where TNT can't find the way to counter while competing in game 3.

As how fans anticipated, Brownlee's monstrous performance influence everyone beside him. If you see your best player playing on this level, you also wanted to ride and work with him with your best too, right?

Game will be interesting as if Gin kings will continue their run and win it will be tough for TNT to catch up but if TNT will again manage to tie the series, we might expect a do-or-die series, too early for that I guess..

Game 3 is for Ginebra San miguel and we all know that after they loss in game 2 coach timcone manage his player and have some adjustment and that what we saw in game 3 TNT can not countered well the performance or strategy By the Ginebra San miguel. But for sure TNT in game 4 will be find the way to win. And get the series tied and once it will happen then A do or die game will be happen for sure.

[bisdak40]

Seems the basket is an ocean for TNT in the first half as threes were raining on their side while Ginebra Kings find it hard to buy a basket, they are now down by 18 points and with that i think we will be having a 2-2 series, just like what is stipulated in the script hehe.

I bet for Ginebra +11.5 @1.87 and Under 213.5 @1.80, hope Ginebra will come back in the second half and make this game a close one.

[goaldigger]

Seems the basket is an ocean for TNT in the first half as threes were raining on their side while Ginebra Kings find it hard to buy a basket, they are now down by 18 points and with that i think we will be having a 2-2 series, just like what is stipulated in the script hehe.

I bet for Ginebra +11.5 @1.87 and Under 213.5 @1.80, hope Ginebra will come back in the second half and make this game a close one.

Being down by 18 points in fourth quarter with a few minutes left is too impossible to have a come back, Ginebra will lose here.
TNT did a great shooting job for todays game and now a big chance to tie the series. Ginebra seems off today as they scored very low compared to game 1 and game 3. Well, there's no doubt for TNT and they prove it for todays game for sure game 5 will be more intense.

[LogitechMouse]

Seems the basket is an ocean for TNT in the first half as threes were raining on their side while Ginebra Kings find it hard to buy a basket, they are now down by 18 points and with that i think we will be having a 2-2 series, just like what is stipulated in the script hehe.

I bet for Ginebra +11.5 @1.87 and Under 213.5 @1.80, hope Ginebra will come back in the second half and make this game a close one.

Being down by 18 points in fourth quarter with a few minutes left is too impossible to have a come back, Ginebra will lose here.
TNT did a great shooting job for todays game and now a big chance to take lead in the series. Ginebra seems off today as they scored very low compared to game 1 and game 2. Well, there's no doubt for TNT and they prove it for todays game for sure game 4 will be more intense.

Anyway, good win for TNT. They won in Game 4, and at the same time, their import, Hollis-Jefferson got the Best Import of the Conference award.
It seems that there's a pattern on this series. It's like how Ginebra won against Bay Area Dragons last Commissioner's Cup where both teams are exchanging wins all the way until Ginebra took it.

When your team shot 21/43 three pointers, your team will get the win. I mean TNT is one of the best three-point shooting teams right now, and in this game, they don't have Pogoy because of a fractured right hand, but the locals stepped up and make the threes rain. Even Hollis-Jefferson who isn't shooting threes that much shot 3-6 on that area. Correct me, but that 21 three point shots that they've made is the new record as the most number of threes made by a single team in a single game in the playoffs.

Game 5 is on Wednesday. It's now a best of 3 series. Will Ginebra get it again? Or the TNT will make it 2 in a row.

[Fredomago]

Seems the basket is an ocean for TNT in the first half as threes were raining on their side while Ginebra Kings find it hard to buy a basket, they are now down by 18 points and with that i think we will be having a 2-2 series, just like what is stipulated in the script hehe.

Something that moved in direction according to the script kabayan! hahaha, but kidding aside, the game plan of TNT really makes them dominant for today's game, nothing is being let go by TNT all the opportunities was converted decently, and even Gin kings are good in trying to make a comeback it didn't happen here.

I bet for Ginebra +11.5 @1.87 and Under 213.5 @1.80, hope Ginebra will come back in the second half and make this game a close one.

Almost with handicap as TNT's lead been cut down to 12 points while with the Over and under, the outcome is over unfortuntely kabayan!

"Bawi na lang sa NBA Bukas" hahaha!

[crzy]

Seems the basket is an ocean for TNT in the first half as threes were raining on their side while Ginebra Kings find it hard to buy a basket, they are now down by 18 points and with that i think we will be having a 2-2 series, just like what is stipulated in the script hehe.

I bet for Ginebra +11.5 @1.87 and Under 213.5 @1.80, hope Ginebra will come back in the second half and make this game a close one.

Being down by 18 points in fourth quarter with a few minutes left is too impossible to have a come back, Ginebra will lose here.
TNT did a great shooting job for todays game and now a big chance to tie the series. Ginebra seems off today as they scored very low compared to game 1 and game 3. Well, there's no doubt for TNT and they prove it for todays game for sure game 5 will be more intense.

What a win for TNT, as expected many are saying that it is a SAGIP KAPAMILYA game most probably those fans of Ginebra can’t totally accept the loss as this is one of their worst loss in the finals. Well, TNT did a great job in shooting and defense as well, you can see this in the entire game. Going into gamr 5, Ginebra can’t afford to lose again and this is why I will take the risk and bet with them this time, let’s see if they will prove those rumors wrong and play their game on its highest level.