2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[Fredomago]

Are we going to see Abando here getting more minutes?

It's important to include Abando, as he brings valuable energy to the team, which is essential against South Sudan's taller roster. While this might not be the most captivating matchup, it's still a game that holds significance. Our brand of basketball is on the line here, considering our team comprises NBA player, PBA players, and overseas-based imports, collectively representing the best in the Philippines. Sustaining a string of losses isn't something we can afford given the lineup's caliber.

I'm uncertain whether I'll place a bet on the Philippines or simply watch the game without any wagers, opting to enjoy it instead.

Maybe I'll just take the right timing in live betting, I don't know. 

I don't know if you managed to place your bet, but it's sad to see that the Olympic hope is already over, after losing to South Sudan there's no bearing now even if Gilas will win their last game against China, the last spot for Asian country is already over for Gilas. I did not watch the game just check the final score and with the outcome it only shows that the offensive side of Gilas did not go well, Clarkson and Ramos have 24 and 20 points while the rest of the team only score a combined of 24.

Oh well, that's all with the effort to try moving forward, but the tournament dictates and concludes that even we host the games not mean that we have the advantages.

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[Kelvinid]

Are we going to see Abando here getting more minutes?

It's important to include Abando, as he brings valuable energy to the team, which is essential against South Sudan's taller roster. While this might not be the most captivating matchup, it's still a game that holds significance. Our brand of basketball is on the line here, considering our team comprises NBA player, PBA players, and overseas-based imports, collectively representing the best in the Philippines. Sustaining a string of losses isn't something we can afford given the lineup's caliber.

I'm uncertain whether I'll place a bet on the Philippines or simply watch the game without any wagers, opting to enjoy it instead.

Maybe I'll just take the right timing in live betting, I don't know. 

I don't know if you managed to place your bet, but it's sad to see that the Olympic hope is already over, after losing to South Sudan there's no bearing now even if Gilas will win their last game against China, the last spot for Asian country is already over for Gilas. I did not watch the game just check the final score and with the outcome it only shows that the offensive side of Gilas did not go well, Clarkson and Ramos have 24 and 20 points while the rest of the team only score a combined of 24.

Oh well, that's all with the effort to try moving forward, but the tournament dictates and concludes that even we host the games not mean that we have the advantages.

They suffered their most significant loss in the tournament, falling by 19 points. It appears that they might have lost their composure after three consecutive losses. Their game plan doesn't seem to be consistently effective throughout each quarter. There are moments of meltdown where they allow their opponents to outscore them, and their hustle dwindles, resulting in less impressive shooting performances.

Anyway, China vs Philippines tomorrow and it's surprising that Philippines is the favorites.

Philippines 1.68 vs China 2.19.

[Sanitough]

Anyway, China vs Philippines tomorrow and it's surprising that Philippines is the favorites.

Philippines 1.68 vs China 2.19.

Considering that this is a non-bearing match, it's possible that China won't exert full effort, which could explain why the Philippines is the favorite to win. Playing in front of a home crowd presents a significant opportunity for them to secure a victory and bring joy to their fans. Betting on the Philippines in a game with no bearing might not be a hesitation, as I believe they will put in their best effort to entertain the crowd in their final game.

[Fredomago]

Anyway, China vs Philippines tomorrow and it's surprising that Philippines is the favorites.

Philippines 1.68 vs China 2.19.

Considering that this is a non-bearing match, it's possible that China won't exert full effort, which could explain why the Philippines is the favorite to win. Playing in front of a home crowd presents a significant opportunity for them to secure a victory and bring joy to their fans. Betting on the Philippines in a game with no bearing might not be a hesitation, as I believe they will put in their best effort to entertain the crowd in their final game.

Hopefully, they will do that and take a win in front of the home crowd. I mean, what if China takes it seriously for the sake of pride? Just saying, as the odd is tempting since it's no bearing but it can also be a trap to bring money on the table, we don't know what's the plan so for those who are unsure best to play or bet during the live game to see if what's the chances for both squads.

[Sanitough]

Anyway, China vs Philippines tomorrow and it's surprising that Philippines is the favorites.

Philippines 1.68 vs China 2.19.

Considering that this is a non-bearing match, it's possible that China won't exert full effort, which could explain why the Philippines is the favorite to win. Playing in front of a home crowd presents a significant opportunity for them to secure a victory and bring joy to their fans. Betting on the Philippines in a game with no bearing might not be a hesitation, as I believe they will put in their best effort to entertain the crowd in their final game.

Hopefully, they will do that and take a win in front of the home crowd. I mean, what if China takes it seriously for the sake of pride? Just saying, as the odd is tempting since it's no bearing but it can also be a trap to bring money on the table, we don't know what's the plan so for those who are unsure best to play or bet during the live game to see if what's the chances for both squads.

The odds have shifted since before the game, with China initially being the slight favorite to win. This change in odds provides a good opportunity for bettors supporting our national team. From what I'm observing, this game could go either way as it's very close. To improve their chances, the Philippines may need to focus on limiting turnovers, especially in the second half, to build momentum going into the fourth quarter. They can't afford to lose by a significant margin in the third quarter, as happened against South Sudan, if my memory serves me correctly. Managing turnovers and maintaining a competitive performance throughout the game will be crucial for their success.

[Viscore]

Anyway, China vs Philippines tomorrow and it's surprising that Philippines is the favorites.

Philippines 1.68 vs China 2.19.

Considering that this is a non-bearing match, it's possible that China won't exert full effort, which could explain why the Philippines is the favorite to win. Playing in front of a home crowd presents a significant opportunity for them to secure a victory and bring joy to their fans. Betting on the Philippines in a game with no bearing might not be a hesitation, as I believe they will put in their best effort to entertain the crowd in their final game.

Hopefully, they will do that and take a win in front of the home crowd. I mean, what if China takes it seriously for the sake of pride? Just saying, as the odd is tempting since it's no bearing but it can also be a trap to bring money on the table, we don't know what's the plan so for those who are unsure best to play or bet during the live game to see if what's the chances for both squads.

The odds have shifted since before the game, with China initially being the slight favorite to win. This change in odds provides a good opportunity for bettors supporting our national team. From what I'm observing, this game could go either way as it's very close. To improve their chances, the Philippines may need to focus on limiting turnovers, especially in the second half, to build momentum going into the fourth quarter. They can't afford to lose by a significant margin in the third quarter, as happened against South Sudan, if my memory serves me correctly. Managing turnovers and maintaining a competitive performance throughout the game will be crucial for their success.

They did great in the second half of the game tonight and won by a huge margin against China. As people have said, this game doesn't have any bearing on the Philippines, as they are already out and would not qualify for the Paris Olympics. Though China might have had a chance before the game, losing by a huge margin has probably compromised their chances.

https://www.espn.ph/basketball/story/_/id/38291945/gilas-pilipinas-fiba-world-cup-head-2024-paris-olympics

Philippines (Group M)

Latest result: Lost to South Sudan
Will play: China on Saturday
Record: 0-4
Point differential: minus-42

The hosts are out. Gilas last qualified for the Olympics in 1972 and have not been back since.

[Fredomago]

They did great in the second half of the game tonight and won by a huge margin against China. As people have said, this game doesn't have any bearing on the Philippines, as they are already out and would not qualify for the Paris Olympics. Though China might have had a chance before the game, losing by a huge margin has probably compromised their chances.

https://www.espn.ph/basketball/story/_/id/38291945/gilas-pilipinas-fiba-world-cup-head-2024-paris-olympics

Philippines (Group M)

Latest result: Lost to South Sudan
Will play: China on Saturday
Record: 0-4
Point differential: minus-42

The hosts are out. Gilas last qualified for the Olympics in 1972 and have not been back since.

Yup, even they win this one with a huge margin there's nothing that can be done for the host team to be qualified for the next olympics, we missed our chance losing from the last 4 games, a good learning experienced for the rest of the team and for sure if being handle by the same managements it will be the same exact reason, " A good learning experienced" 

Oh well, just wanna congrats all those bettors who managed to place their support betting for the home team and earned decently after the game.

[goaldigger]

Yup, even they win this one with a huge margin there's nothing that can be done for the host team to be qualified for the next olympics, we missed our chance losing from the last 4 games, a good learning experienced for the rest of the team and for sure if being handle by the same managements it will be the same exact reason, " A good learning experienced"  

Oh well, just wanna congrats all those bettors who managed to place their support betting for the home team and earned decently after the game.

We are against the top teams, and we cannot blame the whole team for this as they performed their best and yet fell short. I agree about the statement of Coach Chot that other top teams didn’t even qualify for the next round and yet and we expecting to see Philippines in the next round? Maybe we are just expecting too much but its finally good to see our first win, we wish the team Gilas for a better years to come, we still have time to play next time.

[harizen]

I agree about the statement of Coach Chot that other top teams didn’t even qualify for the next round and yet and we expecting to see Philippines in the next round?

Coach Chot really said that? A competitive coach shouldn't say that. What a bullsh*t statement.

I know the capability of Gilas compared to other countries. It's better to say and admit that we lack talented players to cope with the global competition. What the f*ck should we care for other top teams not qualifying for the next round? Instead of recognizing our own problem, he still looks at those top teams not entering the next round. What a funny statement personally for me and you really agree with that?

Saying that kind of crap statement is like saying, it's fine to lose because there are top teams that also lose in the first round.

[goinmerry]

Yup, even they win this one with a huge margin there's nothing that can be done for the host team to be qualified for the next olympics, we missed our chance losing from the last 4 games, a good learning experienced for the rest of the team and for sure if being handle by the same managements it will be the same exact reason, " A good learning experienced"  

Oh well, just wanna congrats all those bettors who managed to place their support betting for the home team and earned decently after the game.

We are against the top teams, and we cannot blame the whole team for this as they performed their best and yet fell short. I agree about the statement of Coach Chot that other top teams didn’t even qualify for the next round and yet and we expecting to see Philippines in the next round? Maybe we are just expecting too much but its finally good to see our first win, we wish the team Gilas for a better years to come, we still have time to play next time.

The Samahang Basketbol of Pilipinas that manages the Gilas, spends big money for that event and talking about the salary, Jordan Clarkson alone has around Php 56,000,000 salary. Just try to do the math for all Gilas salary combined. They also spend much on long preparation for this event and there are lots of adjustments made the whole year just to be fully prepared.

If it's alright to just lose as other top teams didn't qualify for the next round, why still focus on basketball preparation? It's just reasonable for Pinoy fans to expect the Philippines to enter the next round because the country prioritize this sport compared to other sports that we are much good and better in the international event.

[Fredomago]

I agree about the statement of Coach Chot that other top teams didn’t even qualify for the next round and yet and we expecting to see Philippines in the next round?

Coach Chot really said that? A competitive coach shouldn't say that. What a bullsh*t statement.

I know the capability of Gilas compared to other countries. It's better to say and admit that we lack talented players to cope with the global competition. What the f*ck should we care for other top teams not qualifying for the next round? Instead of recognizing our own problem, he still looks at those top teams not entering the next round. What a funny statement personally for me and you really agree with that?

Saying that kind of crap statement is like saying, it's fine to lose because there are top teams that also lose in the first round.

Hahaha! That's my comment Kabayan! as I also watch that video interview wanting to quote some of his statement " dito lang sa pilipinas bawal matalo" something like that in my understanding, I do hope that he's sincere in thinking of leaving the position, it's better to let someone to handle the team, might be enough for that time frame that was given to him.

Yup, even they win this one with a huge margin there's nothing that can be done for the host team to be qualified for the next olympics, we missed our chance losing from the last 4 games, a good learning experienced for the rest of the team and for sure if being handle by the same managements it will be the same exact reason, " A good learning experienced" 

Oh well, just wanna congrats all those bettors who managed to place their support betting for the home team and earned decently after the game.

We are against the top teams, and we cannot blame the whole team for this as they performed their best and yet fell short. I agree about the statement of Coach Chot that other top teams didn’t even qualify for the next round and yet and we expecting to see Philippines in the next round? Maybe we are just expecting too much but its finally good to see our first win, we wish the team Gilas for a better years to come, we still have time to play next time.

The Samahang Basketbol of Pilipinas that manages the Gilas, spends big money for that event and talking about the salary, Jordan Clarkson alone has around Php 56,000,000 salary. Just try to do the math for all Gilas salary combined. They also spend much on long preparation for this event and there are lots of adjustments made the whole year just to be fully prepared.

If it's alright to just lose as other top teams didn't qualify for the next round, why still focus on basketball preparation? It's just reasonable for Pinoy fans to expect the Philippines to enter the next round because the country prioritize this sport compared to other sports that we are much good and better in the international event.

Yup, not a small amount for this squad and just to learn something from losing to a strong team, I think that can be used if the gilas who are playing are the same gilas with coach tab, players from collegiate that don't have that value in terms of money involvement, but the fact that SBP allocated such huge amount of money in forming this team,

Though it happened and we don't have control about how the rotation and how super coach chot see what's better for his team during the game.

[Distinctin]

Yup, even they win this one with a huge margin there's nothing that can be done for the host team to be qualified for the next olympics, we missed our chance losing from the last 4 games, a good learning experienced for the rest of the team and for sure if being handle by the same managements it will be the same exact reason, " A good learning experienced"  

Oh well, just wanna congrats all those bettors who managed to place their support betting for the home team and earned decently after the game.

We are against the top teams, and we cannot blame the whole team for this as they performed their best and yet fell short. I agree about the statement of Coach Chot that other top teams didn’t even qualify for the next round and yet and we expecting to see Philippines in the next round? Maybe we are just expecting too much but its finally good to see our first win, we wish the team Gilas for a better years to come, we still have time to play next time.

The Samahang Basketbol of Pilipinas that manages the Gilas, spends big money for that event and talking about the salary, Jordan Clarkson alone has around Php 56,000,000 salary. Just try to do the math for all Gilas salary combined. They also spend much on long preparation for this event and there are lots of adjustments made the whole year just to be fully prepared.

If it's alright to just lose as other top teams didn't qualify for the next round, why still focus on basketball preparation? It's just reasonable for Pinoy fans to expect the Philippines to enter the next round because the country prioritize this sport compared to other sports that we are much good and better in the international event.

JC deserves that huge amount as he is an NBA player. Yes, they spent a lot of money on this event, but unfortunately, we didn't get what we wanted. Coach Chot stepping aside was probably the best thing that happened because with his departure, we can expect a new system to be put in place, making our players more capable in both offense and defense.

As JC said, that was not his last time playing with Gilas; he loves to play with Gilas. So, the longer he plays, the more he will develop great chemistry, and maybe next time, he will be able to join the early preparations.

I think with a better coach, the outcome could have been different; maybe a 2-2 record would have been quite reasonable.

[bisdak40]

As JC said, that was not his last time playing with Gilas; he loves to play with Gilas. So, the longer he plays, the more he will develop great chemistry, and maybe next time, he will be able to join the early preparations.

Hope by the next FIBA World Cup, their will be enough players who can help him win games because this version of Gilas, though they are better now than the previous but still the offensive plays where so predictable, almost of all the plays, Clarkson touches the ball and when the opponents double JC, he has some trouble passing to his teammates.

Meanwhile, SBP has already released the roster for the upcoming Asian games, see below.

Justin Brownlee
Ange Kouame
Kiefer Ravena
Scottie Thompson
RR Pogoy
June Mar Fajardo
CJ Perez
Japeth Aguilar
Jamie Malonzo
Chris Newsome
Calvin Oftana
Brandon Ganuelas-Rosser

[Kelvinid]

It appears that there's a chance we won't get to see Coach Tab taking on the role of coaching Gilas, as there's unofficial news suggesting that he has been hired as the new coach of the Indonesia National Team.

(UNOFFICIAL) According to Snow, his kuliglig told him that Tab will leave the country soon to coach the Indonesian Team. Such a loss for the Philippines to waste this gem and on the otherhand it is a BIG development for the Indonesian Basketball to have this type of Coach. While the Philippines might just rot on the old system, and old gameplay that will make PH basketball to its lowest level of play.

https://www.facebook.com/theIskor

[arwin100]

As JC said, that was not his last time playing with Gilas; he loves to play with Gilas. So, the longer he plays, the more he will develop great chemistry, and maybe next time, he will be able to join the early preparations.

Hope by the next FIBA World Cup, their will be enough players who can help him win games because this version of Gilas, though they are better now than the previous but still the offensive plays where so predictable, almost of all the plays, Clarkson touches the ball and when the opponents double JC, he has some trouble passing to his teammates.

Meanwhile, SBP has already released the roster for the upcoming Asian games, see below.

Justin Brownlee
Ange Kouame
Kiefer Ravena
Scottie Thompson
RR Pogoy
June Mar Fajardo
CJ Perez
Japeth Aguilar
Jamie Malonzo
Chris Newsome
Calvin Oftana
Brandon Ganuelas-Rosser

This is the big problem of Gilas and coach chot still doesn't understand why they get upset. They should adjust according how the game flow and not tell that its a learning experience to them since its so bullshit if it always happen. Luckily they win against China since it revives the spirit of Filipino fans if they play just like that on earliest games of this competition maybe result is different.


Also to bad that current players cannot play for next qualifiers due to their mother teams commitment so hopefully the new coach can work well with this current new rosters introduced to play on upcoming asian games.

[Questat]

It appears that there's a chance we won't get to see Coach Tab taking on the role of coaching Gilas, as there's unofficial news suggesting that he has been hired as the new coach of the Indonesia National Team.

(UNOFFICIAL) According to Snow, his kuliglig told him that Tab will leave the country soon to coach the Indonesian Team. Such a loss for the Philippines to waste this gem and on the otherhand it is a BIG development for the Indonesian Basketball to have this type of Coach. While the Philippines might just rot on the old system, and old gameplay that will make PH basketball to its lowest level of play.

https://www.facebook.com/theIskor

If this rumor is true, then I think it would break the hearts of the fans who are longing to see Coach Tab coach the Gilas Pilipinas. I understand why people want him because he has already proven himself. When he was coaching the team, there were lots of praises for the team, even though Gilas did not advance to the biggest stage. Now, if he were to coach Indonesia, would that mean he would also leave the Philippines?

[Sanitough]

It appears that there's a chance we won't get to see Coach Tab taking on the role of coaching Gilas, as there's unofficial news suggesting that he has been hired as the new coach of the Indonesia National Team.

(UNOFFICIAL) According to Snow, his kuliglig told him that Tab will leave the country soon to coach the Indonesian Team. Such a loss for the Philippines to waste this gem and on the otherhand it is a BIG development for the Indonesian Basketball to have this type of Coach. While the Philippines might just rot on the old system, and old gameplay that will make PH basketball to its lowest level of play.

https://www.facebook.com/theIskor

If this rumor is true, then I think it would break the hearts of the fans who are longing to see Coach Tab coach the Gilas Pilipinas. I understand why people want him because he has already proven himself. When he was coaching the team, there were lots of praises for the team, even though Gilas did not advance to the biggest stage. Now, if he were to coach Indonesia, would that mean he would also leave the Philippines?

This is breaking news. I believe Coach Tab was one of the coaches considered to coach the Gilas Pilipinas. If this is true, maybe he wasn't really considered, which is why he chose to coach another country's national team. I believe he was let go as the Gilas coach before, so the SBP probably isn't pleased with him and might not rehire him despite the fans' eagerness to see him coach our struggling national team.

As they say, we have the talent but lack a good coach. So, when will we see one?

[goinmerry]

If this rumor is true, then I think it would break the hearts of the fans who are longing to see Coach Tab coach the Gilas Pilipinas. I understand why people want him because he has already proven himself. When he was coaching the team, there were lots of praises for the team, even though Gilas did not advance to the biggest stage.

I doubt it's a big blow on the Nationals. Coach Tab might be eyeing for long by everyone to handle again the Nationals but it's not only him as the best candidate. Who is the other coach that everyone wants? It's right directly on the Gilas Coaching Staff, none other than Brgy. Ginebra Head Coach, Tim Cone.

Coach Tim was already present at most Gilas preparation events in their FIBA World Cup journey since the qualification and window games. He was also given a chance to become an assistant head coach last year at the invitation of Miami Heat head coach Eric Spoelstra. He can utilize more of what should be the best play when Scottie Thompson and Japeth Aguilar are on the floor. And when it's time now for activating Justin Brownlee once JC is not available anymore, Coach Tim knows more what to do on the rotation.
 
I'm looking forward to him becoming the Gilas head coach after Coach Chot.

[Fredomago]

If this rumor is true, then I think it would break the hearts of the fans who are longing to see Coach Tab coach the Gilas Pilipinas. I understand why people want him because he has already proven himself. When he was coaching the team, there were lots of praises for the team, even though Gilas did not advance to the biggest stage.

I doubt it's a big blow on the Nationals. Coach Tab might be eyeing for long by everyone to handle again the Nationals but it's not only him as the best candidate. Who is the other coach that everyone wants? It's right directly on the Gilas Coaching Staff, none other than Brgy. Ginebra Head Coach, Tim Cone.

Coach Tim was already present at most Gilas preparation events in their FIBA World Cup journey since the qualification and window games. He was also given a chance to become an assistant head coach last year at the invitation of Miami Heat head coach Eric Spoelstra. He can utilize more of what should be the best play when Scottie Thompson and Japeth Aguilar are on the floor. And when it's time now for activating Justin Brownlee once JC is not available anymore, Coach Tim knows more what to do on the rotation.
 
I'm looking forward to him becoming the Gilas head coach after Coach Chot.

Yes, for me coach Tim will be enough in case super coach Chot will be true to his words that he will let go the post, I mean coach Tab is coach Tab and his contributions to the development of young generations really bring great outcome to the players, though his greatness is just wasted by the fact that super coach Chot can easily manipulate as he's the golden son of the SBP, hahaha just kidding but hopefully just still hoping for the best for our nationals and for the future development of this program.

For coach Tab, wherever he is, I believe that he respects the management and he will continue to be an inspiration to those who manage to work and play with him.

[bisdak40]

Yes, for me coach Tim will be enough in case super coach Chot will be true to his words that he will let go the post, I mean coach Tab is coach Tab and his contributions to the development of young generations really bring great outcome to the players, though his greatness is just wasted by the fact that super coach Chot can easily manipulate as he's the golden son of the SBP, hahaha just kidding but hopefully just still hoping for the best for our nationals and for the future development of this program.

For coach Tab, wherever he is, I believe that he respects the management and he will continue to be an inspiration to those who manage to work and play with him.

Coach Chot Reyes and assistant coach Tim Cone will still be the official coach and assistant coach this coming Asian Games as their names were submitted by the POC before July 25, the deadline for the roster's submission, and whomever they put on the roster will be the official players and coaches so coach Chot Reyes is not yet officially retired from Gilas coaching job.