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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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February 03, 2023, 06:34:32 PM
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Magnolia are down as high as 16 points against the TNT and I thought that they can still defeat them when they chipped down the league into 2 points in the 4th quarter, but just after that huge run, TNT made their own run and put the lead to double digits again to the point that Magnolia can't fight back anymore.

Sometimes, it's really worth putting risks of betting on any SMC or MVP teams when being down by double-digit points regardless of who's their opponent, either against independent teams, farm teams, or sister teams. Handicap or Moneyline, in some PBA games, a large lead is sometimes meant to be spoiled.

If you guys remembered, before that TNT game against Magnolia, the former blew a 15-point lead against NLEX and cost them defeat. This time, even though they were able to stop Magnolia's rally, at least able to get the win in the end. If TNT loses against Magnolia instead, another choke game by them and that's a big concern to address.

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February 03, 2023, 07:37:46 PM
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Magnolia are down as high as 16 points against the TNT and I thought that they can still defeat them when they chipped down the league into 2 points in the 4th quarter, but just after that huge run, TNT made their own run and put the lead to double digits again to the point that Magnolia can't fight back anymore.

Sometimes, it's really worth putting risks of betting on any SMC or MVP teams when being down by double-digit points regardless of who's their opponent, either against independent teams, farm teams, or sister teams. Handicap or Moneyline, in some PBA games, a large lead is sometimes meant to be spoiled.

If you guys remembered, before that TNT game against Magnolia, the former blew a 15-point lead against NLEX and cost them defeat. This time, even though they were able to stop Magnolia's rally, at least able to get the win in the end. If TNT loses against Magnolia instead, another choke game by them and that's a big concern to address.

If that run from Magnolia manage to snatch the game from TNT then It will be a big concern especially with the coaching side, that's  a huge lead that they will again blownout, not a considerable outcome after the last defeat from NLEX, though they manage to secure the win after making therir own run and gain back that comfortable lead.

Magnolia now is in need of wins, twice in a row and almost but didn't complete the comeback.

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February 03, 2023, 09:38:29 PM
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If that run from Magnolia manage to snatch the game from TNT then It will be a big concern especially with the coaching side, that's  a huge lead that they will again blownout, not a considerable outcome after the last defeat from NLEX, though they manage to secure the win after making therir own run and gain back that comfortable lead.

Magnolia now is in need of wins, twice in a row and almost but didn't complete the comeback.
Probably TNT learned their lesson and focused more on their mistakes to prevent another big come back from their opponent, its good that they still get the win despite of the run of Magnolia. Magnolia on a 0-2 run is quiet unusual because for the past conference, they are one of the top teams to lead the standing but now they are struggling a lot. If they want to advance to the next round they should start addressing this problem now.
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February 03, 2023, 10:40:44 PM
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If that run from Magnolia manage to snatch the game from TNT then It will be a big concern especially with the coaching side, that's  a huge lead that they will again blownout, not a considerable outcome after the last defeat from NLEX, though they manage to secure the win after making therir own run and gain back that comfortable lead.

Magnolia now is in need of wins, twice in a row and almost but didn't complete the comeback.
Probably TNT learned their lesson and focused more on their mistakes to prevent another big come back from their opponent, its good that they still get the win despite of the run of Magnolia. Magnolia on a 0-2 run is quiet unusual because for the past conference, they are one of the top teams to lead the standing but now they are struggling a lot. If they want to advance to the next round they should start addressing this problem now.

Magnolia being on a 0-2 hole at the moment is not a cause for panic because they have been in this the same situation many times and before you know it, they are in the top of the standings at the end of the eliminations. It's just that they encountered first a strong opponent in Converge and TNT. They are now the weakest of the SMB teams and rumors had it that Mo Tautoa will be heading to the Hotshots to reinforce the team hehe.

NLEX has a game tonight against Phoenix, maybe the last game of Simmons before leaving for good and for me fulfilling his promise of 4 wins before he leaves is doable so i'm taking this NLEX ML @1.47 right now as there are no other beautiful odds to bet at the moment.

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NLEX has a game tonight against Phoenix, maybe the last game of Simmons before leaving for good and for me fulfilling his promise of 4 wins before he leaves is doable so i'm taking this NLEX ML @1.47 right now as there are no other beautiful odds to bet at the moment.

I have other plans, hehe.. sorry I'm going against your bet. I'm betting on Simmons not being able to fulfill his promise, so I'm with the Phoenix on underdog odds. They are +6.5 and 3.25 for ML. Anyway, may the best team wins, though I'm not so interested in this game, but no choice, I have to feel some action while watching the game.
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February 04, 2023, 08:48:50 AM
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NLEX has a game tonight against Phoenix, maybe the last game of Simmons before leaving for good and for me fulfilling his promise of 4 wins before he leaves is doable so i'm taking this NLEX ML @1.47 right now as there are no other beautiful odds to bet at the moment.

I have other plans, hehe.. sorry I'm going against your bet. I'm betting on Simmons not being able to fulfill his promise, so I'm with the Phoenix on underdog odds. They are +6.5 and 3.25 for ML. Anyway, may the best team wins, though I'm not so interested in this game, but no choice, I have to feel some action while watching the game.
I also thought of that for a second knowing that Phoenix just got their first win of the conference, they might build a momentum. On the other hand, I also believe that Simmons will fulfill his promise that he will go back to CBA with his team having a 4-0 record and why not? He is making huge numbers in his last 3 games including his heroic performance against the TNT where they made a comeback and won the game by 2 points.

Anyway, the game between NLEX and Phoenix started already and it's NLEX leading by 7 by the time I'm posting it with 3 minutes remaining in the 1st quarter. I already put my bet on NLEX -6.5 before the start of the game.

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February 04, 2023, 09:46:31 AM
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NLEX has a game tonight against Phoenix, maybe the last game of Simmons before leaving for good and for me fulfilling his promise of 4 wins before he leaves is doable so i'm taking this NLEX ML @1.47 right now as there are no other beautiful odds to bet at the moment.

I have other plans, hehe.. sorry I'm going against your bet. I'm betting on Simmons not being able to fulfill his promise, so I'm with the Phoenix on underdog odds. They are +6.5 and 3.25 for ML. Anyway, may the best team wins, though I'm not so interested in this game, but no choice, I have to feel some action while watching the game.

Very risky, but who knows, right? it will be depending on how the team will play and how they will execute the design play for today, not going to take part in this game but I will watch it and see if how these teams will compete. Simmons might fulfil his promise or maybe Phoenix will stand up and will try to win it against them.

May the best team to win from both of you and for those who are silent readers/bettors here.

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February 04, 2023, 09:51:00 AM
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NLEX has a game tonight against Phoenix, maybe the last game of Simmons before leaving for good and for me fulfilling his promise of 4 wins before he leaves is doable so i'm taking this NLEX ML @1.47 right now as there are no other beautiful odds to bet at the moment.

I have other plans, hehe.. sorry I'm going against your bet. I'm betting on Simmons not being able to fulfill his promise, so I'm with the Phoenix on underdog odds. They are +6.5 and 3.25 for ML. Anyway, may the best team wins, though I'm not so interested in this game, but no choice, I have to feel some action while watching the game.

Very risky, but who knows, right? it will be depending on how the team will play and how they will execute the design play for today, not going to take part in this game but I will watch it and see if how these teams will compete. Simmons might fulfil his promise or maybe Phoenix will stand up and will try to win it against them.

May the best team to win from both of you and for those who are silent readers/bettors here.

The good thing about this game is that it's a close game now, either team could win, but we know NLEX is the better team so far based on their record. Anyway, let's enjoy this game as it's not like the past few games where it's only a one sided game. Good luck to betters on different sides.

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February 04, 2023, 11:11:17 AM
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NLEX has a game tonight against Phoenix, maybe the last game of Simmons before leaving for good and for me fulfilling his promise of 4 wins before he leaves is doable so i'm taking this NLEX ML @1.47 right now as there are no other beautiful odds to bet at the moment.

I have other plans, hehe.. sorry I'm going against your bet. I'm betting on Simmons not being able to fulfill his promise, so I'm with the Phoenix on underdog odds. They are +6.5 and 3.25 for ML. Anyway, may the best team wins, though I'm not so interested in this game, but no choice, I have to feel some action while watching the game.

Very risky, but who knows, right? it will be depending on how the team will play and how they will execute the design play for today, not going to take part in this game but I will watch it and see if how these teams will compete. Simmons might fulfil his promise or maybe Phoenix will stand up and will try to win it against them.

May the best team to win from both of you and for those who are silent readers/bettors here.

The good thing about this game is that it's a close game now, either team could win, but we know NLEX is the better team so far based on their record. Anyway, let's enjoy this game as it's not like the past few games where it's only a one sided game. Good luck to betters on different sides.

It was once a close game but NLEX exploded in the 4th quarter and leave the Phoenix no chance to beat them. They could have made it an exciting game when they have a 9-0 run, but multiple miss shots lead to a losing game. Congratualtions to Simmons, he nailed it, that 4 wins promised was fulfilled.

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February 04, 2023, 11:28:52 AM
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NLEX has a game tonight against Phoenix, maybe the last game of Simmons before leaving for good and for me fulfilling his promise of 4 wins before he leaves is doable so i'm taking this NLEX ML @1.47 right now as there are no other beautiful odds to bet at the moment.

I have other plans, hehe.. sorry I'm going against your bet. I'm betting on Simmons not being able to fulfill his promise, so I'm with the Phoenix on underdog odds. They are +6.5 and 3.25 for ML. Anyway, may the best team wins, though I'm not so interested in this game, but no choice, I have to feel some action while watching the game.

Very risky, but who knows, right? it will be depending on how the team will play and how they will execute the design play for today, not going to take part in this game but I will watch it and see if how these teams will compete. Simmons might fulfil his promise or maybe Phoenix will stand up and will try to win it against them.

May the best team to win from both of you and for those who are silent readers/bettors here.

The good thing about this game is that it's a close game now, either team could win, but we know NLEX is the better team so far based on their record. Anyway, let's enjoy this game as it's not like the past few games where it's only a one sided game. Good luck to betters on different sides.

It was once a close game but NLEX exploded in the 4th quarter and leave the Phoenix no chance to beat them. They could have made it an exciting game when they have a 9-0 run, but multiple miss shots lead to a losing game. Congratualtions to Simmons, he nailed it, that 4 wins promised was fulfilled.

An impressive performance again for Simmons fulfilling his promised before leaving NLEX, 4-0 and they all alone leading the standing, let see if they will keep it after Simmons go, they needed to work as one and with the new upcoming import they need to stay that same level of confidence to keep that position.

Not an easy task knowing that there are super teams that they needed to play against with, the new import needs to learn the right adjustment with the team and how he can duplicate or much better to exceed from what Simmons brings to the team.

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February 04, 2023, 11:49:59 AM
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NLEX has a game tonight against Phoenix, maybe the last game of Simmons before leaving for good and for me fulfilling his promise of 4 wins before he leaves is doable so i'm taking this NLEX ML @1.47 right now as there are no other beautiful odds to bet at the moment.

I have other plans, hehe.. sorry I'm going against your bet. I'm betting on Simmons not being able to fulfill his promise, so I'm with the Phoenix on underdog odds. They are +6.5 and 3.25 for ML. Anyway, may the best team wins, though I'm not so interested in this game, but no choice, I have to feel some action while watching the game.
I also thought of that for a second knowing that Phoenix just got their first win of the conference, they might build a momentum. On the other hand, I also believe that Simmons will fulfill his promise that he will go back to CBA with his team having a 4-0 record and why not? He is making huge numbers in his last 3 games including his heroic performance against the TNT where they made a comeback and won the game by 2 points.

Anyway, the game between NLEX and Phoenix started already and it's NLEX leading by 7 by the time I'm posting it with 3 minutes remaining in the 1st quarter. I already put my bet on NLEX -6.5 before the start of the game.
Bad pick, I was thinking of a good win, it was close in the first 3 quarters but the 4th quarter was a major difference of the game. The import of the NLEX was so good, he made his team better because everyone was confident in defending and shooting the ball. Congrats @bisdak for the win.



Any thoughts about the second game which is Meralco and Blackwater? Who did you bet your money with? Who do you think will win?
I didn't bet on this game yet as I was thinking of putting my bet live, but it looks like this game is already over since Meralco had build a huge lead in the 1st half already. I'm not interested anymore.
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February 04, 2023, 12:11:35 PM
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An impressive performance again for Simmons fulfilling his promised before leaving NLEX, 4-0 and they all alone leading the standing, let see if they will keep it after Simmons go, they needed to work as one and with the new upcoming import they need to stay that same level of confidence to keep that position.
True, and he said during an interview that he will come back and play with the coach of NLEX.
Hopefully, we will see him back soon, he will be a good challenger for Brownlee who is so far the best import in the PBA.

Not an easy task knowing that there are super teams that they needed to play against with, the new import needs to learn the right adjustment with the team and how he can duplicate or much better to exceed from what Simmons brings to the team.
I don't want to expect too much so the new import will not be pressure, at least NLEX had already gain 4 wins in case they'll experience losing games with the new import.

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February 04, 2023, 12:18:55 PM
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If Bossing will not make a big run in the 3rd quarter, then this game is already over before the 4th quarter. Their import is contributing as usual, unfortunately, the locals have some problem in producing points. I would say this is a big bounce back of Meralco after losing to the Terrafirma Dyip.



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February 04, 2023, 01:03:46 PM
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If Bossing will not make a big run in the 3rd quarter, then this game is already over before the 4th quarter. Their import is contributing as usual, unfortunately, the locals have some problem in producing points. I would say this is a big bounce back of Meralco after losing to the Terrafirma Dyip.

They had a mini run in the 3rd quarter, they actually won that quarter but in the 4th quarter, it's the Meralco who took over the game. It's a blowout win by the Meralco Bolts, their import had a double double but it was Maliksi's good 3 point shooting that gave Meralco a huge lead. 6-10 from beyond the arc, that's something.

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February 04, 2023, 02:50:25 PM
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If Bossing will not make a big run in the 3rd quarter, then this game is already over before the 4th quarter. Their import is contributing as usual, unfortunately, the locals have some problem in producing points. I would say this is a big bounce back of Meralco after losing to the Terrafirma Dyip.

They had a mini run in the 3rd quarter, they actually won that quarter but in the 4th quarter, it's the Meralco who took over the game. It's a blowout win by the Meralco Bolts, their import had a double double but it was Maliksi's good 3 point shooting that gave Meralco a huge lead. 6-10 from beyond the arc, that's something.
That was a great run but not enough to beat Meralco, they are on fire and had a huge lead to take the win.
They still have the problem with their local players, they are not playing pros here after many conference, they are still on the same level of gaming. I expect them to improve though, their import is good but its not being utilized and without a help from the locals it will be hard for them to have another win.
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I also thought of that for a second knowing that Phoenix just got their first win of the conference, they might build a momentum. On the other hand, I also believe that Simmons will fulfill his promise that he will go back to CBA with his team having a 4-0 record and why not? He is making huge numbers in his last 3 games including his heroic performance against the TNT where they made a comeback and won the game by 2 points.

Anyway, the game between NLEX and Phoenix started already and it's NLEX leading by 7 by the time I'm posting it with 3 minutes remaining in the 1st quarter. I already put my bet on NLEX -6.5 before the start of the game.
Bad pick, I was thinking of a good win, it was close in the first 3 quarters but the 4th quarter was a major difference of the game. The import of the NLEX was so good, he made his team better because everyone was confident in defending and shooting the ball. Congrats @bisdak for the win.
I didn't watch the whole game, but at one point, the NLEX are up by 10 with 3 minutes remaining and when I saw the score again the second time, the game was over already and the NLEX won, but only by 4 points.

Well, Simmons really stick to his promise and gave his team a 4-0 early advantage. I mean he's an ex-NBA player and is capable of scoring 25 or 30 PPG so there is a chance that he can really do it and in fact, he's the leading scorer right now in the conference. Unfortunately, that will be his last game because he will go back to China and play there. Simmons' replacement import will be Wayne Selden Jr. and he's another ex-NBA player. I just wish that the NLEX will continue their momentum in their first 4 games now that they have a different import already. There might be a chance as well that Simmons might return to our league and play again if he is free. Who knows. Smiley

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February 04, 2023, 03:43:14 PM
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I also thought of that for a second knowing that Phoenix just got their first win of the conference, they might build a momentum. On the other hand, I also believe that Simmons will fulfill his promise that he will go back to CBA with his team having a 4-0 record and why not? He is making huge numbers in his last 3 games including his heroic performance against the TNT where they made a comeback and won the game by 2 points.

Anyway, the game between NLEX and Phoenix started already and it's NLEX leading by 7 by the time I'm posting it with 3 minutes remaining in the 1st quarter. I already put my bet on NLEX -6.5 before the start of the game.
Bad pick, I was thinking of a good win, it was close in the first 3 quarters but the 4th quarter was a major difference of the game. The import of the NLEX was so good, he made his team better because everyone was confident in defending and shooting the ball. Congrats @bisdak for the win.
I didn't watch the whole game, but at one point, the NLEX are up by 10 with 3 minutes remaining and when I saw the score again the second time, the game was over already and the NLEX won, but only by 4 points.

Well, Simmons really stick to his promise and gave his team a 4-0 early advantage. I mean he's an ex-NBA player and is capable of scoring 25 or 30 PPG so there is a chance that he can really do it and in fact, he's the leading scorer right now in the conference. Unfortunately, that will be his last game because he will go back to China and play there. Simmons' replacement import will be Wayne Selden Jr. and he's another ex-NBA player. I just wish that the NLEX will continue their momentum in their first 4 games now that they have a different import already. There might be a chance as well that Simmons might return to our league and play again if he is free. Who knows. Smiley

4-0 standing in this current season is very good for the NLEX they compete to The other team's and their Import shows us that he can carry his team but by The help of our local of curse but now they Need to replace their import as we all know that someone will play in China for his team. And this is a bad thing for NLEX and the big questions id if their new Import can do what summons did to his team? If he can then NLEX is a lucky team and they are not a farm team anymore.

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February 04, 2023, 05:20:38 PM
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If Bossing will not make a big run in the 3rd quarter, then this game is already over before the 4th quarter. Their import is contributing as usual, unfortunately, the locals have some problem in producing points. I would say this is a big bounce back of Meralco after losing to the Terrafirma Dyip.

They had a mini run in the 3rd quarter, they actually won that quarter but in the 4th quarter, it's the Meralco who took over the game. It's a blowout win by the Meralco Bolts, their import had a double double but it was Maliksi's good 3 point shooting that gave Meralco a huge lead. 6-10 from beyond the arc, that's something.
That was a great run but not enough to beat Meralco, they are on fire and had a huge lead to take the win.
They still have the problem with their local players, they are not playing pros here after many conference, they are still on the same level of gaming. I expect them to improve though, their import is good but its not being utilized and without a help from the locals it will be hard for them to have another win.

It will be tough even they've got a good import but without a good support from the locals they might end the season with the same outcome, I can say that it's not hard to agree with your statement they are here with many conferences but they still have the same result they can easily be dominated when a super team push them and they can't do anything about it.

Still not seeing any chance for this team to make it to the next round, unless their might be good changes with the system and they will really work harder than the usual performance to help the import to win the game.

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February 04, 2023, 09:08:19 PM
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If Bossing will not make a big run in the 3rd quarter, then this game is already over before the 4th quarter. Their import is contributing as usual, unfortunately, the locals have some problem in producing points. I would say this is a big bounce back of Meralco after losing to the Terrafirma Dyip.

They had a mini run in the 3rd quarter, they actually won that quarter but in the 4th quarter, it's the Meralco who took over the game. It's a blowout win by the Meralco Bolts, their import had a double double but it was Maliksi's good 3 point shooting that gave Meralco a huge lead. 6-10 from beyond the arc, that's something.
That was a great run but not enough to beat Meralco, they are on fire and had a huge lead to take the win.
They still have the problem with their local players, they are not playing pros here after many conference, they are still on the same level of gaming. I expect them to improve though, their import is good but its not being utilized and without a help from the locals it will be hard for them to have another win.
That’s true, without a help of the local players it will be hard for them to face the top teams.
Their import is just doing his job to play his best every game and so far he’s doing good, what is lack with them is that they are not consistent and have a poor plays and strategy, they should address this one as early in this conference, they can have a good run if they will play more consistently. Meralco just won here perfectly, they aim for it.
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February 04, 2023, 11:52:44 PM
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True, and he said during an interview that he will come back and play with the coach of NLEX.
Hopefully, we will see him back soon, he will be a good challenger for Brownlee who is so far the best import in the PBA.

The PBA community wants to see Simmons vs Brownlee clash but seems not happening now.

But who knows that a sudden change of events will happen and Simmons might face Brownlee soon.

Anyways, Ginebra's first game at this conference will be today, Sunday. They will face the struggling Rain Or Shine and expect a huge gap in the ML odds.


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