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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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January 14, 2023, 08:29:34 AM
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The spirit of never say die will be tested again tomorrow, with a huge crowd, the intensity of the game will be tested
from both sides!
The pressure and cruciality of game 7 will bring the best and the worst for both teams. At least for Ginebra, we've seen them so many times in the finals.
But for Bay Area, it's going to be a new atmosphere to us and whether we like it or not, there's a possibility that the whole basketball nation might be disappointed but for the best, it could be the best.

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January 14, 2023, 08:36:56 AM
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I'm guessing that 70% of those in attendance for this game will be mostly Gin Kings fans and only 30% of the Bay area Dragons. May the best team win, this Sunday. Then we run out of tickets dude and it's hard to get one, it's even better at home because there's no hustle, to be honest.
Much much more higher than 70%. I do not think that Filipinos will support a foreign team in our country. Even though they look like they are stronger, Ginebra proves that they can take the Championship away from the favorite Bay Area Dragons. Even if you are a TNT, RoS, Magnolia, San Miguel or Ginebra fan, I am sure if a filipino team is going up against a foreign team, you will support the Filipino team. I think 99% will cheer for Ginebra. Just a few ones will support Bay Area.

I guess that's it and just like how the Bay Area Dragon reactivate their import, Powell. So, there's the possibility that there could be an import on the side of Ginebra on Sunday.
Just for game 7, there could be some surprises on their roster based on the naturalization of Brownlee. Thus, it's just the same roster and Brownlee is going to be for keeps of the Ginebra for the next conference.

No, they will not have a new import. That will be too unfair for Bay Area Dragon. 2 imports playing at the same time.

There is no betting line in Stake yet, but I am guessing, Ginebra will be the favorite this game. If not, that would be a big chance for us to have good odds for Ginebra.
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January 14, 2023, 08:46:59 AM
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I guess that's it and just like how the Bay Area Dragon reactivate their import, Powell. So, there's the possibility that there could be an import on the side of Ginebra on Sunday.
Just for game 7, there could be some surprises on their roster based on the naturalization of Brownlee. Thus, it's just the same roster and Brownlee is going to be for keeps of the Ginebra for the next conference.

No, they will not have a new import. That will be too unfair for Bay Area Dragon. 2 imports playing at the same time.

There is no betting line in Stake yet, but I am guessing, Ginebra will be the favorite this game. If not, that would be a big chance for us to have good odds for Ginebra.

It says Ginebra will be playing an all Filipino line up tomorrow because Brownlee is officially a Filipino. Even if they will add an import, that will not help, it will only ruin the chemistry because there's no time anymore to practice and for sure Tim Cone would not risk on that.

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January 14, 2023, 10:16:29 AM
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I guess that's it and just like how the Bay Area Dragon reactivate their import, Powell. So, there's the possibility that there could be an import on the side of Ginebra on Sunday.
Just for game 7, there could be some surprises on their roster based on the naturalization of Brownlee. Thus, it's just the same roster and Brownlee is going to be for keeps of the Ginebra for the next conference.

No, they will not have a new import. That will be too unfair for Bay Area Dragon. 2 imports playing at the same time.

There is no betting line in Stake yet, but I am guessing, Ginebra will be the favorite this game. If not, that would be a big chance for us to have good odds for Ginebra.
The game is now listed in stake.

Odds are
BGSM: 1.52
BAD: 2.38

I'm just thinking that there's a possibility that Ginebra will do that since it's come and passed into law the naturalization of Brown Lee but yeah, that's it and we'll see how loud the Phil.Arena tomorrow.

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January 14, 2023, 10:24:47 AM
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I guess that's it and just like how the Bay Area Dragon reactivate their import, Powell. So, there's the possibility that there could be an import on the side of Ginebra on Sunday.
Just for game 7, there could be some surprises on their roster based on the naturalization of Brownlee. Thus, it's just the same roster and Brownlee is going to be for keeps of the Ginebra for the next conference.

No, they will not have a new import. That will be too unfair for Bay Area Dragon. 2 imports playing at the same time.

There is no betting line in Stake yet, but I am guessing, Ginebra will be the favorite this game. If not, that would be a big chance for us to have good odds for Ginebra.
The game is now listed in stake.

Odds are
BGSM: 1.52
BAD: 2.38

I'm just thinking that there's a possibility that Ginebra will do that since it's come and passed into law the naturalization of Brown Lee but yeah, that's it and we'll see how loud the Phil.Arena tomorrow.

Wow, for those who backing BAD like Kabayan @bisdak a sweet odd for you! I will save some spare tomorrow and I will bet during the live event, if BAD will have an early lead for sure the odd will change and it will be the chance for every gambler who are backing Ginebra, much better / higher odd if BAD will make a good run as early as the first half.

Gin Kings fans/crowds will surely create a big pressure for the visiting team. The huge noise will distract them.

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January 14, 2023, 10:29:39 AM
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I guess that's it and just like how the Bay Area Dragon reactivate their import, Powell. So, there's the possibility that there could be an import on the side of Ginebra on Sunday.
Just for game 7, there could be some surprises on their roster based on the naturalization of Brownlee. Thus, it's just the same roster and Brownlee is going to be for keeps of the Ginebra for the next conference.

No, they will not have a new import. That will be too unfair for Bay Area Dragon. 2 imports playing at the same time.

There is no betting line in Stake yet, but I am guessing, Ginebra will be the favorite this game. If not, that would be a big chance for us to have good odds for Ginebra.
The game is now listed in stake.

Odds are
BGSM: 1.52
BAD: 2.38

I'm just thinking that there's a possibility that Ginebra will do that since it's come and passed into law the naturalization of Brown Lee but yeah, that's it and we'll see how loud the Phil.Arena tomorrow.

Wow, for those who backing BAD like Kabayan @bisdak a sweet odd for you! I will save some spare tomorrow and I will bet during the live event, if BAD will have an early lead for sure the odd will change and it will be the chance for every gambler who are backing Ginebra, much better / higher odd if BAD will make a good run as early as the first half.

Gin Kings fans/crowds will surely create a big pressure for the visiting team. The huge noise will distract them.

The very trademark of never say die BRGY!

There's something wrong with the betting odds, probably bettors are hammering the moneyline that's why it was listed that low. That's to even the betting because if BAD will be the favorite, for sure Bookies will have a problem paying the winners of the match.

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January 14, 2023, 10:31:52 AM
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Gilnebra will be play with all Filipino line up in game 7, can you believe that?

I wonder how's the import eligibility terms of Ginebra in the Governor's Cup now that Brownlee is now a Filipino.

Since Brownlee can't be considered now as an import, does it mean he can play as a local alongside a new import? Or since he's not listed as an original roster in Ginebra, he might not be the import for the next conference and we might not see him playing for the Kings.

I will do some research regarding that.
We don't know. Its Ginebra and Ginebra is under SMC. We know what the capabilities of SMC teams are. Smiley

Nevertheless, they will be one of the most if not the most dominant team in the PBA if that happens and if that happens, the competition around the league will be lesser and lesser. Just imagine Ginebra getting some unbalanced trades, and then they will have a local player that plays like an import and then they will acquire another import so it is like they have 2 imports + best local players of the league. That's too unbalanced that some independent teams might force their way out of the league.

What I'm curious is how the citizenship will affect his status on Gilas Pilipinas. They granted him a Filipino Citizenship already so can we say that he will be a local player of the team thus, they can hire another naturalized Filipino Player to play in our team?

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January 14, 2023, 10:56:54 AM
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The game is now listed in stake.

Odds are
BGSM: 1.52
BAD: 2.38
Sportsbet has a bettor odds for Ginebra, it.s 1.64 and they are only -2.5 to win.
It's still to early, we don't know, maybe there are some changes in this game, or maybe this game will went to OT, also consider betting that, there's a huge odds for that.

I'm just thinking that there's a possibility that Ginebra will do that since it's come and passed into law the naturalization of Brown Lee but yeah, that's it and we'll see how loud the Phil.Arena tomorrow.
Believe me, Ginebra will use the same lineup in game 7.

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January 14, 2023, 11:10:01 AM
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I'm just thinking that there's a possibility that Ginebra will do that since it's come and passed into law the naturalization of Brown Lee but yeah, that's it and we'll see how loud the Phil.Arena tomorrow.
Believe me, Ginebra will use the same lineup in game 7.
If Brown Lee naturalized already, is this mean Ginebra can have another import?
Anyway, let's just focus on the game 7 and I'm sure many are already excited to watch the last game between this two top teams. With a help of the crowd, Ginebra will have a good advantage here. There's nothing wrong about the line-up of Ginebra, though they have to adjust right away if one of the key players are not playing well so the Bay Area will not have the chance to take a huge lead. Ginebra can win this one, let's all watch this game.
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January 14, 2023, 11:13:50 AM
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The game is now listed in stake.

Odds are
BGSM: 1.52
BAD: 2.38
Sportsbet has a bettor odds for Ginebra, it.s 1.64 and they are only -2.5 to win.
It's still to early, we don't know, maybe there are some changes in this game, or maybe this game will went to OT, also consider betting that, there's a huge odds for that.


It's not anymore, they adjusted the betting odds already, if you were able to bet early, then you will have that opportunity to get that odds. I'm checking now, it's already -4.5, and same spread with duelbits and stake. Anyway, I think they can still manage that considering the crowd are cheering for them.



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January 14, 2023, 03:17:40 PM
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I'm just thinking that there's a possibility that Ginebra will do that since it's come and passed into law the naturalization of Brown Lee but yeah, that's it and we'll see how loud the Phil.Arena tomorrow.
Believe me, Ginebra will use the same lineup in game 7.
If Brown Lee naturalized already, is this mean Ginebra can have another import?
Anyway, let's just focus on the game 7 and I'm sure many are already excited to watch the last game between this two top teams. With a help of the crowd, Ginebra will have a good advantage here. There's nothing wrong about the line-up of Ginebra, though they have to adjust right away if one of the key players are not playing well so the Bay Area will not have the chance to take a huge lead. Ginebra can win this one, let's all watch this game.
For sure ginebra will win the match as we all know their ability and strength but if they can't then it's still okay at least they try their best but only thing I assure that they have the chemistry of their import they play as one and they want to prove that local is the best .but no doubt that they are struggling it because Bay area dragons have miles Powell a great shooter and as well as Lam who can take a shot from outside.

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January 14, 2023, 03:50:02 PM
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For sure ginebra will win the match as we all know their ability and strength but if they can't then it's still okay at least they try their best but only thing I assure that they have the chemistry of their import they play as one and they want to prove that local is the best .but no doubt that they are struggling it because Bay area dragons have miles Powell a great shooter and as well as Lam who can take a shot from outside.
What you've said for Ginebra, Bay Area has it all too. Ginebra's advantage is they are the crowd favorite and with the massive attendance, for sure that will fire them up. Bay Area could use it as motivation as well, you know when only few believe in you, you are eager to show what you've got. Also, they have managed to snatch a win with import less. Now with Powell, maybe things won't go as fans wanted to see. I'm rooting for Bay Area btw.

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January 14, 2023, 04:33:15 PM
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Gilnebra will be play with all Filipino line up in game 7, can you believe that?

Well, don't be confused because that information is really true.

Brownlee will play by the way.  Grin

Justin Brownlee granted Filipino citizenship

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MANILA – President Ferdinand R. Marcos Jr. has granted Filipino citizenship to professional basketball player Justin Brownlee.

Senator Francis Tolentino confirmed on Thursday night that Marcos has signed Republic Act 11739, which grants Filipino citizenship to the Ginebra resident import through naturalization.

The law will take effect 15 days after its publication in the Official Gazette.

Well, that only means one thing, Brownlee prefers to live here in our country so now he is a Filipino. In fairness, the speed of the process is also, if anything.

I'm guessing that 70% of those in attendance for this game will be mostly Gin Kings fans and only 30% of the Bay area Dragons. May the best team win, this Sunday. Then we run out of tickets dude and it's hard to get one, it's even better at home because there's no hustle, to be honest.

30%? I think that's too high. If the total attendance will be 50k, that means 15k are cheering for Bay Area, no, it's not gonna happen. I would even be surprise if total fans for Bay area will reach 1,000.  Smiley

Bay area will probably have support online but not in the Arena. honestly, If I'm a Bay Area fan and I'll go watch the game live, I think will just shut my might and cheer secretly, I'm afraid what the fans of Ginebra would do to me.

   -  I know what you mean, most Gin Kings fans are fighters, and when you show that you are a fan of the Gin Kings opponent for sure you can be bullied or teased because they know they have more than you.

But of course, it's still good to watch and follow them when it's time for their match at the Arena.

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January 14, 2023, 11:07:16 PM
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If Brown Lee naturalized already, is this mean Ginebra can have another import?

I am sure they are not allowed but even if they can, is that going to help them or make them worst? It will just disrupt the chemistry that they already have in the team. Better just stick with the current roster since they are strong enough to beat the Bay Area Dragons and get the Championship.

Anyway, let's just focus on the game 7 and I'm sure many are already excited to watch the last game between this two top teams. With a help of the crowd, Ginebra will have a good advantage here. There's nothing wrong about the line-up of Ginebra, though they have to adjust right away if one of the key players are not playing well so the Bay Area will not have the chance to take a huge lead. Ginebra can win this one, let's all watch this game.

Having a talented coach is a great advantage for Ginebra. Sure, they were overwhelmed by the presence of Powell in Game 6 but that will surely be fixed by Game 7. They have a lot of days to plan and practice how they will contain Powell. I am sure, by game time, they will be ready to execute their plans to perfection. And with the crowd backing them up, we will see a fired-up Ginebra playing tonight.

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January 14, 2023, 11:28:12 PM
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For sure ginebra will win the match as we all know their ability and strength but if they can't then it's still okay at least they try their best but only thing I assure that they have the chemistry of their import they play as one and they want to prove that local is the best .but no doubt that they are struggling it because Bay area dragons have miles Powell a great shooter and as well as Lam who can take a shot from outside.
What you've said for Ginebra, Bay Area has it all too. Ginebra's advantage is they are the crowd favorite and with the massive attendance, for sure that will fire them up. Bay Area could use it as motivation as well, you know when only few believe in you, you are eager to show what you've got. Also, they have managed to snatch a win with import less. Now with Powell, maybe things won't go as fans wanted to see. I'm rooting for Bay Area btw.

If they can convert it like that, the eagerness to prove that you are the best in front of many detractors will give you that fighting spirit to do all the best you can, though it's still the cheers that have the dominating factors here, but we will know who's team will shine high in these upcoming game 7.

Exciting game between the visiting team and the crowd favorite local PBA team, hope all will ends well and without any issue that will sorround after the game.

Loser should accept the outcome and not to point finger or to blame anyone.

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January 15, 2023, 07:46:57 AM
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For sure ginebra will win the match as we all know their ability and strength but if they can't then it's still okay at least they try their best but only thing I assure that they have the chemistry of their import they play as one and they want to prove that local is the best .but no doubt that they are struggling it because Bay area dragons have miles Powell a great shooter and as well as Lam who can take a shot from outside.
What you've said for Ginebra, Bay Area has it all too. Ginebra's advantage is they are the crowd favorite and with the massive attendance, for sure that will fire them up. Bay Area could use it as motivation as well, you know when only few believe in you, you are eager to show what you've got. Also, they have managed to snatch a win with import less. Now with Powell, maybe things won't go as fans wanted to see. I'm rooting for Bay Area btw.

If they can convert it like that, the eagerness to prove that you are the best in front of many detractors will give you that fighting spirit to do all the best you can, though it's still the cheers that have the dominating factors here, but we will know who's team will shine high in these upcoming game 7.

Exciting game between the visiting team and the crowd favorite local PBA team, hope all will ends well and without any issue that will sorround after the game.

Loser should accept the outcome and not to point finger or to blame anyone.

If you are a ginebra fan, you will likely doubt taking the spread because it's too high, and actually, there's a chance that Bay Area will win, but with the help fo the refs they will surely win, and I think the safest bet here is the moneyline with 1.43 odds.

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January 15, 2023, 07:58:17 AM
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For sure ginebra will win the match as we all know their ability and strength but if they can't then it's still okay at least they try their best but only thing I assure that they have the chemistry of their import they play as one and they want to prove that local is the best .but no doubt that they are struggling it because Bay area dragons have miles Powell a great shooter and as well as Lam who can take a shot from outside.
What you've said for Ginebra, Bay Area has it all too. Ginebra's advantage is they are the crowd favorite and with the massive attendance, for sure that will fire them up. Bay Area could use it as motivation as well, you know when only few believe in you, you are eager to show what you've got. Also, they have managed to snatch a win with import less. Now with Powell, maybe things won't go as fans wanted to see. I'm rooting for Bay Area btw.

If they can convert it like that, the eagerness to prove that you are the best in front of many detractors will give you that fighting spirit to do all the best you can, though it's still the cheers that have the dominating factors here, but we will know who's team will shine high in these upcoming game 7.

Exciting game between the visiting team and the crowd favorite local PBA team, hope all will ends well and without any issue that will sorround after the game.

Loser should accept the outcome and not to point finger or to blame anyone.

If you are a ginebra fan, you will likely doubt taking the spread because it's too high, and actually, there's a chance that Bay Area will win, but with the help fo the refs they will surely win, and I think the safest bet here is the moneyline with 1.43 odds.

It's safe but the odds are very low, I would not take that, instead, I will just go with the total, currently, it's 183.5, and the way game 7 is played, it should be a very physical game, therefore, if Ginebra will dictate the tempo, I think this game will just go under, that's for sure.

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January 15, 2023, 08:28:49 AM
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It's safe but the odds are very low, I would not take that, instead, I will just go with the total, currently, it's 183.5, and the way game 7 is played, it should be a very physical game, therefore, if Ginebra will dictate the tempo, I think this game will just go under, that's for sure.

Betting under 183.5 is the way to go here because this is a do-or-die game which is every shot is pressure laden which could make this a low-scoring affair besides defense will be so intense on this game.

I'm about to bet on this game now but this game was taken down on my favorite sports book, why is that? The odds were here two hours ago. Do bookies think that this is a rigged game?  Grin

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January 15, 2023, 08:32:15 AM
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The 1.4 odds from Rollbit is very low. What's the solution? Bet against it Cheesy.


It's only a small amount that I put my bet with but that will make me more enjoyable to watch especially that I'm against the herd. For sure, most of the PH people will go for Ginebra to win the title but I still believe that the record of Powell in this conference will not end up with a loss. His undefeated record and the fact that Ginebra can't stop him is the reason why I put my bet to them. Well, the game will happen after 1 hour so lets just enjoy watching.

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January 15, 2023, 09:26:36 AM
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The 1.4 odds from Rollbit is very low. What's the solution? Bet against it Cheesy.


It's only a small amount that I put my bet with but that will make me more enjoyable to watch especially that I'm against the herd. For sure, most of the PH people will go for Ginebra to win the title but I still believe that the record of Powell in this conference will not end up with a loss. His undefeated record and the fact that Ginebra can't stop him is the reason why I put my bet to them. Well, the game will happen after 1 hour so lets just enjoy watching.

If you want better odds, do not bet on money line. Bet on over/under or spread, it will give you better odds than betting on straight money line. Rely on previous games on betting over/under to be sure which line to take.

This game is so much hype. Just the introduction of the first five have good production. I am sure we will watch a thrilling game tonight.

To all bettor, whether its for BAD or Gins, good luck!!!

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