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July 12, 2023, 12:18:37 PM
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TNT +21.5 @1.85 vs ROS[/b]

I've decided to bet on the TNT because of that wide spread, that is too much that i think they can cover that one easily.
I see that TNT has a bigger chance of winning and under Jojo Lastimosa NTN is developing quite well.
Justin Chua and Carl Bryan Cruz will be my favorites to make TNT win over ROS.
Hopefully what is expected can actually be achieved with TNT's victory they can continue into the next series.

There's no doubt that TNT is considered a good team. However, let's take a look at the current situation. We are in the PBA on tour where games may not hold as much importance as in the regular season. So far, this supposed good team is still winless, indicating that they have been struggling significantly.

You can confirm this by checking the standings at https://pba.ph/standings, where they currently hold a record of 0-6.

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July 12, 2023, 12:54:10 PM
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TNT +21.5 @1.85 vs ROS[/b]

I've decided to bet on the TNT because of that wide spread, that is too much that i think they can cover that one easily.
I see that TNT has a bigger chance of winning and under Jojo Lastimosa NTN is developing quite well.
Justin Chua and Carl Bryan Cruz will be my favorites to make TNT win over ROS.
Hopefully what is expected can actually be achieved with TNT's victory they can continue into the next series.

There's no doubt that TNT is considered a good team. However, let's take a look at the current situation. We are in the PBA on tour where games may not hold as much importance as in the regular season. So far, this supposed good team is still winless, indicating that they have been struggling significantly.

You can confirm this by checking the standings at https://pba.ph/standings, where they currently hold a record of 0-6.

As of now, TNT is leading the game, indicating that they may not want to end this tour winless. They are currently ahead by 4 points and in the 3rd quarter. Based on what you're seeing, it appears to be their best game thus far, considering that ROS has a good standing and yet TNT is competing well against them.

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July 12, 2023, 01:11:18 PM
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TNT +21.5 @1.85 vs ROS[/b]

I've decided to bet on the TNT because of that wide spread, that is too much that i think they can cover that one easily.
I see that TNT has a bigger chance of winning and under Jojo Lastimosa NTN is developing quite well.
Justin Chua and Carl Bryan Cruz will be my favorites to make TNT win over ROS.
Hopefully what is expected can actually be achieved with TNT's victory they can continue into the next series.

There's no doubt that TNT is considered a good team. However, let's take a look at the current situation. We are in the PBA on tour where games may not hold as much importance as in the regular season. So far, this supposed good team is still winless, indicating that they have been struggling significantly.

You can confirm this by checking the standings at https://pba.ph/standings, where they currently hold a record of 0-6.

As of now, TNT is leading the game, indicating that they may not want to end this tour winless. They are currently ahead by 4 points and in the 3rd quarter. Based on what you're seeing, it appears to be their best game thus far, considering that ROS has a good standing and yet TNT is competing well against them.

If TNT does win, I'm curious about the moneyline odds for the game. With the game heading into the 4th quarter as a close contest, there's a decent chance that we might witness an upset tonight. bisdak's bet is already a winner since there's no way that +21.5 would still result in a loss with only one quarter remaining. The only remaining question is whether TNT will be able to secure a victory or not.
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July 12, 2023, 01:50:25 PM
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TNT +21.5 @1.85 vs ROS[/b]

I've decided to bet on the TNT because of that wide spread, that is too much that i think they can cover that one easily.
I see that TNT has a bigger chance of winning and under Jojo Lastimosa NTN is developing quite well.
Justin Chua and Carl Bryan Cruz will be my favorites to make TNT win over ROS.
Hopefully what is expected can actually be achieved with TNT's victory they can continue into the next series.

There's no doubt that TNT is considered a good team. However, let's take a look at the current situation. We are in the PBA on tour where games may not hold as much importance as in the regular season. So far, this supposed good team is still winless, indicating that they have been struggling significantly.

You can confirm this by checking the standings at https://pba.ph/standings, where they currently hold a record of 0-6.

As of now, TNT is leading the game, indicating that they may not want to end this tour winless. They are currently ahead by 4 points and in the 3rd quarter. Based on what you're seeing, it appears to be their best game thus far, considering that ROS has a good standing and yet TNT is competing well against them.

If TNT does win, I'm curious about the moneyline odds for the game. With the game heading into the 4th quarter as a close contest, there's a decent chance that we might witness an upset tonight. bisdak's bet is already a winner since there's no way that +21.5 would still result in a loss with only one quarter remaining. The only remaining question is whether TNT will be able to secure a victory or not.

Unfortunately, TNT once again fell short as ROS appeared victorious in the end. However, TNT managed to cover the spread, which is a positive outcome. The final score was 106-100. It's a promising start for TNT, as they showed competitive spirit in this game compared to their previous matches where they suffered significant losses.



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July 12, 2023, 09:56:29 PM
 #11805

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TNT +21.5 @1.85 vs ROS[/b]

I've decided to bet on the TNT because of that wide spread, that is too much that i think they can cover that one easily.
I see that TNT has a bigger chance of winning and under Jojo Lastimosa NTN is developing quite well.
Justin Chua and Carl Bryan Cruz will be my favorites to make TNT win over ROS.
Hopefully what is expected can actually be achieved with TNT's victory they can continue into the next series.

There's no doubt that TNT is considered a good team. However, let's take a look at the current situation. We are in the PBA on tour where games may not hold as much importance as in the regular season. So far, this supposed good team is still winless, indicating that they have been struggling significantly.

You can confirm this by checking the standings at https://pba.ph/standings, where they currently hold a record of 0-6.

In on-tour games TNT still not winning anything and with what bisdak bet he managed again to win as the outcome only gives ROS 6 points that's something far from the handicap bookies gave for TNT. Not sure why it was being brought here about the regular season opportunities of TNT as we all witness what they've got last season, they are still in the competitive status and with coach Jolas we might see them competing as hard as what the fans expect from them.

FOr now, just chill and continue enjoying what the PBA is offering as the preparation for the world tournament is affecting the
PBA, let's hope for the best in this upcoming new season.

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July 13, 2023, 11:45:45 AM
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In on-tour games TNT still not winning anything and with what bisdak bet he managed again to win as the outcome only gives ROS 6 points that's something far from the handicap bookies gave for TNT. Not sure why it was being brought here about the regular season opportunities of TNT as we all witness what they've got last season, they are still in the competitive status and with coach Jolas we might see them competing as hard as what the fans expect from them.

FOr now, just chill and continue enjoying what the PBA is offering as the preparation for the world tournament is affecting the
PBA, let's hope for the best in this upcoming new season.

Maybe he was not following the games here and thought that the games held were for the regular season  Cool.

That 21.5 points handicap was a sure winner even before tip-off hehe, just too wide of a spread considering how a defense-oriented ROS played, i mean coach Yeng Guiao will not be happy at all if his players won't play defense and with that, their offensive output will also be affected, low scoring game i supposed but surprised to see that the total over-all score reached 200+.

If my memory serves me right, the ML odds pre-game for TNT to win was @11.xx, that was huge if you have bet for them and TNT won the game.

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July 13, 2023, 11:50:53 AM
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In on-tour games TNT still not winning anything and with what bisdak bet he managed again to win as the outcome only gives ROS 6 points that's something far from the handicap bookies gave for TNT. Not sure why it was being brought here about the regular season opportunities of TNT as we all witness what they've got last season, they are still in the competitive status and with coach Jolas we might see them competing as hard as what the fans expect from them.

FOr now, just chill and continue enjoying what the PBA is offering as the preparation for the world tournament is affecting the
PBA, let's hope for the best in this upcoming new season.

Maybe he was not following the games here and thought that the games held were for the regular season  Cool.

That 21.5 points handicap was a sure winner even before tip-off hehe, just too wide of a spread considering how a defense-oriented ROS played, i mean coach Yeng Guiao will not be happy at all if his players won't play defense and with that, their offensive output will also be affected, low scoring game i supposed but surprised to see that the total over-all score reached 200+.

If my memory serves me right, the ML odds pre-game for TNT to win was @11.xx, that was huge if you have bet for them and TNT won the game.



They came close to winning that game and gave ROS a tough time. It's fortunate that you bet on the handicap, which turned out to be a sure winner for you. In their next game, I believe TNT may not receive a high handicap spread anymore, considering how they performed in their last game. Bookies might make some adjustments, but if we can identify any value in their odds, it would be wise to take advantage of it.

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July 13, 2023, 01:15:21 PM
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They came close to winning that game and gave ROS a tough time. It's fortunate that you bet on the handicap, which turned out to be a sure winner for you. In their next game, I believe TNT may not receive a high handicap spread anymore, considering how they performed in their last game. Bookies might make some adjustments, but if we can identify any value in their odds, it would be wise to take advantage of it.
They came quite close, but unfortunately, they still fell short. Maybe next time, on their game this coming July 19 against Phoenix SUPER LPG, they'll get lucky and secure a win. It would be a relief for them, considering they were previously in the number 1 spot in the regular league standings and are now at the bottom.

Although it's understandable given the current format, people who haven't followed it closely might quickly judge that TNT is no longer a good team.

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July 13, 2023, 06:09:15 PM
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In on-tour games TNT still not winning anything and with what bisdak bet he managed again to win as the outcome only gives ROS 6 points that's something far from the handicap bookies gave for TNT. Not sure why it was being brought here about the regular season opportunities of TNT as we all witness what they've got last season, they are still in the competitive status and with coach Jolas we might see them competing as hard as what the fans expect from them.

FOr now, just chill and continue enjoying what the PBA is offering as the preparation for the world tournament is affecting the
PBA, let's hope for the best in this upcoming new season.

Maybe he was not following the games here and thought that the games held were for the regular season  Cool.

That 21.5 points handicap was a sure winner even before tip-off hehe, just too wide of a spread considering how a defense-oriented ROS played, i mean coach Yeng Guiao will not be happy at all if his players won't play defense and with that, their offensive output will also be affected, low scoring game i supposed but surprised to see that the total over-all score reached 200+.

If my memory serves me right, the ML odds pre-game for TNT to win was @11.xx, that was huge if you have bet for them and TNT won the game.



For ML that's scary but with the handicap like that I guess still worth the try, and like what happened to your bet as sure deal, adding for your winning profits. I'm not sure what happened with ROS as they played laziness during that game and like what you mentioned, coach Yeng is not happy as the players are not providing the defense that they should be implementing.

Another win means more money to use for your journey, still kicking alive Kabayan! more luck to you!

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July 14, 2023, 11:21:29 AM
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Another win means more money to use for your journey, still kicking alive Kabayan! more luck to you!

Thanks kabayan, yeah still alive and kicking, hope when the PBA-on-tour ends, i'm still in the profit zone.

Not a good start for me this day as I have bet for the Meralco Bolts at the end of the first half ML @3.01, thought that was a nice catch as the score was 47-45, just a two-point lead by Blackwater but it turned out to be a trap hehe, Blackwater eventually won the game, 89-82.

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^^ My bet for the second game, hoping that i can recover my first game lose.
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Phoenix ML @2.78 vs NorthPort
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^^ My bet for the second game, hoping that i can recover my first game lose.

Unfortunately it didn't hit because Northport were able to dominate Phoenix by beating them in a 19 points margin. I was also thinking that the game should be close, but it turns out it has become a one sided game. Anyway, that's normal in gambling, you win some and you lose some.


By the way, it seems like no one is talking about Kai Sotto's performance in his first game in the summer league, he was given good minutes to showcase his skills and AFAIR, he had like 6 points, 4 rebounds and 3 blocks in just 13 minutes of playing time.

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Phoenix ML @2.78 vs NorthPort
Phoenix +4.5 @1.95 vs NorthPort

^^ My bet for the second game, hoping that i can recover my first game lose.

Unfortunately it didn't hit because Northport were able to dominate Phoenix by beating them in a 19 points margin. I was also thinking that the game should be close, but it turns out it has become a one sided game. Anyway, that's normal in gambling, you win some and you lose some.
That's how unpredictable games are, the only predictable in this tour is that Magnolia will remain undefeated while TNT at the same time would remain winless. Well, they also break that during their last game against ROS but they still fell short, so that long streak continues.

By the way, it seems like no one is talking about Kai Sotto's performance in his first game in the summer league, he was given good minutes to showcase his skills and AFAIR, he had like 6 points, 4 rebounds and 3 blocks in just 13 minutes of playing time.
Everyone is talking about this young NBA prospect. And you are right with the stats stated, it's very positive so the fans are optimistic that he'll continue to be given minutes because of what he showed.  Who knows, Kai could be a big reason on why Magic would finally have a W.

https://www.rappler.com/sports/nba/summer-league-game-results-kai-sotto-orlando-magic-portland-trail-blazers-july-13-2023/
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Phoenix ML @2.78 vs NorthPort
Phoenix +4.5 @1.95 vs NorthPort

^^ My bet for the second game, hoping that i can recover my first game lose.

Unfortunately it didn't hit because Northport were able to dominate Phoenix by beating them in a 19 points margin. I was also thinking that the game should be close, but it turns out it has become a one sided game. Anyway, that's normal in gambling, you win some and you lose some.


By the way, it seems like no one is talking about Kai Sotto's performance in his first game in the summer league, he was given good minutes to showcase his skills and AFAIR, he had like 6 points, 4 rebounds and 3 blocks in just 13 minutes of playing time.

Yes, NP dominated the game from a 2nd quarter up to the last quarter in our local language " ibinaon masyado" it was close during the early quarter but after that NP start to fire up and the defense really gives Phoenix a hard time to catch up, just the same thing when you are in the winning side, just move on and forget about it.

Interesting matchup next game between Mags and ROS number 1 and 2 in this on-tour game, expecting something between these two teams who are showing really good competitions.

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Yes, NP dominated the game from a 2nd quarter up to the last quarter in our local language " ibinaon masyado" it was close during the early quarter but after that NP start to fire up and the defense really gives Phoenix a hard time to catch up, just the same thing when you are in the winning side, just move on and forget about it.

Yup, NorthPort dominated the game last night but one thing i found it weird was how the bookies placed the odds, i mean it was Phoenix who was the slight favorite four hours before the game but when i browsed back one hour before the game, it was already NorthPort who was the favorite that is why i betted for Phoenix. I wonder who could have tipped the bookies that NorthPort would win that game hehe.

Interesting matchup next game between Mags and ROS number 1 and 2 in this on-tour game, expecting something between these two teams who are showing really good competitions.

Agree, this is interesting and this game will be held in Dumaguete so anybody's ballgame i think.

ROS @4.0   Magnolia @1.20
ROS +9.5 1.84  Magnolia -9.5 @1.90

^^ Some of the odds in our local bookies and please note that Magnolia always cover the spread  Cool.

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Got no time to bet yesterday as i was out of town, but congrats to those who bet for Magnolia and they covered the spread again.
Ginebra ML @2.28 vs Converge

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Consecutive losses for me as favorites have won each time and bookies have adjusted to the games of the PBA on tour and they have put the rightful underdogs and favorites in the match hehe.

With that being said, i will adjust and bet for the favorites if i feel that the underdog doesn't have the chance to win.

Games for tomorrow:

First game:
ROS vs NorthPort

Second game:
Phoenix vs TNT Katropa

No odds yet for the two game but i think on the second game it would still be TNT as the underdog, by what margin, that's the question and if it would be the same as last time that the spread reached 20+ points, i would be for TNT.

Odds for ROS vs Northport might be even as the two teams are in the middle of the standings, bookies will count that as a factor I think.
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July 18, 2023, 12:18:17 PM
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Consecutive losses for me as favorites have won each time and bookies have adjusted to the games of the PBA on tour and they have put the rightful underdogs and favorites in the match hehe.

With that being said, i will adjust and bet for the favorites if i feel that the underdog doesn't have the chance to win.

Games for tomorrow:

First game:
ROS vs NorthPort

Second game:
Phoenix vs TNT Katropa

No odds yet for the two game but i think on the second game it would still be TNT as the underdog, by what margin, that's the question and if it would be the same as last time that the spread reached 20+ points, i would be for TNT.

Odds for ROS vs Northport might be even as the two teams are in the middle of the standings, bookies will count that as a factor I think.


Yeah, it might trigger bookies that you already reading their minds and you are following the tricks that they are trying, my impression is that they are really trying to allure gambler to place bets with the so-called favorites and the outcome will be in the other side, a simple explanation that we are in an on-tour game and the outcome is really unpredictable. But it may be possible that gambler who observe well catch that and they are following it and manage to earn decently (kasama ka dun kabayan) Hahaha..

Now, they are putting favorite the right way possible reason is this On-Tour games might be ended hahaha.. Just creating my version Kabayan, but good luck to your next bets!

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July 18, 2023, 01:06:06 PM
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No odds yet for the two game but i think on the second game it would still be TNT as the underdog, by what margin, that's the question and if it would be the same as last time that the spread reached 20+ points, i would be for TNT.

I think the spread is still high considering their loss in the last game. They have experienced several blowout defeats, which may make them desperate to win. However, they will likely make efforts to secure a victory, particularly since they came close last time. There is a possibility that they will play harder and strive to win the game, so even if they fail, there is a chance that the spread will be covered once again.

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July 19, 2023, 01:39:43 AM
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No odds yet for the two game but i think on the second game it would still be TNT as the underdog, by what margin, that's the question and if it would be the same as last time that the spread reached 20+ points, i would be for TNT.

I think the spread is still high considering their loss in the last game. They have experienced several blowout defeats, which may make them desperate to win. However, they will likely make efforts to secure a victory, particularly since they came close last time. There is a possibility that they will play harder and strive to win the game, so even if they fail, there is a chance that the spread will be covered once again.
We will find out today. I just checked the betting odds, and it appears that they are not yet available, possibly because it is still early considering the game is scheduled for 7:30 PM this evening. However, based on Phoenix being the better team and their likelihood of bouncing back from their previous loss, I believe Phoenix will win this game. Regarding the handicap spread, if it's 10+ points, I still think it's worth considering to bet on TNT.

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Last edit: July 19, 2023, 05:25:40 AM by bisdak40
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No odds yet for the two game but i think on the second game it would still be TNT as the underdog, by what margin, that's the question and if it would be the same as last time that the spread reached 20+ points, i would be for TNT.

I think the spread is still high considering their loss in the last game. They have experienced several blowout defeats, which may make them desperate to win. However, they will likely make efforts to secure a victory, particularly since they came close last time. There is a possibility that they will play harder and strive to win the game, so even if they fail, there is a chance that the spread will be covered once again.
We will find out today. I just checked the betting odds, and it appears that they are not yet available, possibly because it is still early considering the game is scheduled for 7:30 PM this evening. However, based on Phoenix being the better team and their likelihood of bouncing back from their previous loss, I believe Phoenix will win this game. Regarding the handicap spread, if it's 10+ points, I still think it's worth considering to bet on TNT.

I still didn't find the odds on our local bookies, maybe they are not interested on covering this game as TNT is so unpredictable. They put the odds usually 24 hours before the game so the likelihood of this not being covered by the bookies is high.

NorthPort ML @2.24 vs Rain Or Shine

^^ My bet since NorthPort is capable of beating the also unpredicatable Rain Or Shine.

edit: as of this writing, our local bookies is already putting the odds for the TNT vs Phoenix odds which is an interesting one.

Phoenix ML 1.61
TNT Tropang Giga 2.19


Will put some money on the Phoenix ML in a while.

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July 19, 2023, 02:13:39 AM
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I think the spread is still high considering their loss in the last game. They have experienced several blowout defeats, which may make them desperate to win. However, they will likely make efforts to secure a victory, particularly since they came close last time. There is a possibility that they will play harder and strive to win the game, so even if they fail, there is a chance that the spread will be covered once again.
Spread is usually what happens in the space, when one's experiencing poor results outcomes. Defeats will only reduce the odds placed on them already, and gamblers will easily lose interests when they keep getting the same Losing record and statistics getting more poorer. Losing is not an option and if it comes, there's always implementation of new game strategy. Losing streak will make things rough and disappointing results will demotivates  the players, so I would urged them to rather continue to push harder no matter the game results, its not an easy path down there.

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