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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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March 01, 2024, 03:57:44 PM
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What can we expect from this team this All Filipino Cup? Is their lineup enough to be a playoff team? They have some veterans on the team and good defensive players like Semerad and Anthony, and we know that these two always plays hard on the court, but Bolick should lead the team.

Though they manage to win the game but in terms of being playoff competitive agaisnt SMC teams who are very dominant, not sure if NLEX have that enough firepower to compete against Gin kings,SMB and Magnolia, especially that we are in the all filipino cup where no reinforcement to carry the load, though it's still too early to conclude and the ball always round, upset can still happen here.

One game is not enough to conclude that they are a playoff team already. If they struggled against Northport, how much more against a legit playoff team? Even with the Magnolia Hotspots, I think they won't last, as Magnolia is a very good defensive team that can limit Berto if he is the only one carrying the team. Unlike Magnolia, which focuses on improving the team and does not rely on one man.

I agree that Berto should be back to his original place, carrying a team is not new to him, he can do it as long as the coach and his teamates believes in him, he can bring the best on him and try to help winning the game.


He had 31 points in this game, shooting 9-22, making it a very efficient performance for him.

However, I'm not sure if he could achieve that number against a defensive team. Bollick played against his old team, so he pretty much knows how to defeat them.

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March 01, 2024, 11:38:53 PM
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What can we expect from this team this All Filipino Cup? Is their lineup enough to be a playoff team? They have some veterans on the team and good defensive players like Semerad and Anthony, and we know that these two always plays hard on the court, but Bolick should lead the team.

Though they manage to win the game but in terms of being playoff competitive agaisnt SMC teams who are very dominant, not sure if NLEX have that enough firepower to compete against Gin kings,SMB and Magnolia, especially that we are in the all filipino cup where no reinforcement to carry the load, though it's still too early to conclude and the ball always round, upset can still happen here.

One game is not enough to conclude that they are a playoff team already. If they struggled against Northport, how much more against a legit playoff team? Even with the Magnolia Hotspots, I think they won't last, as Magnolia is a very good defensive team that can limit Berto if he is the only one carrying the team. Unlike Magnolia, which focuses on improving the team and does not rely on one man.

I agree that Berto should be back to his original place, carrying a team is not new to him, he can do it as long as the coach and his teamates believes in him, he can bring the best on him and try to help winning the game.


He had 31 points in this game, shooting 9-22, making it a very efficient performance for him.

However, I'm not sure if he could achieve that number against a defensive team. Bollick played against his old team, so he pretty much knows how to defeat them.

You said it right,  stronger team can find ways to limit him so it's needed that the rest of his pals should be ready whatever the help he will need, not just magnolia but more with SMB and Gin Kings where the squads are equipped by players that have capability to limit him, and just like what you mentioned one win can't conclude the fate of his team, it's a long journey and a lots competition to win, they just need to go one step at a time and try to be more competitive working together to strengthen their squad.

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March 02, 2024, 11:20:12 AM
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It seems like no one is talking about the games today.

The first game is over, with the bossing winning again as they beat TNT by 11 points (87-76). Currently, we have the Rain or Shine and the Meralco Bolts, and it's looking good for Meralco as they are leading after the first half. They are aiming for a bounce back after the loss in the opening.

The score is 42-49 in favor of Meralco. Anyone here interested in taking a higher risk by betting on ROS to win?
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March 02, 2024, 12:40:58 PM
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It seems like no one is talking about the games today.

The first game is over, with the bossing winning again as they beat TNT by 11 points (87-76). Currently, we have the Rain or Shine and the Meralco Bolts, and it's looking good for Meralco as they are leading after the first half. They are aiming for a bounce back after the loss in the opening.

The score is 42-49 in favor of Meralco. Anyone here interested in taking a higher risk by betting on ROS to win?

Another overtime game; last night, NLEX vs. Northport went to overtime, and now we have this game. It's never safe to have a good lead because any team can have a good run and bring the game to OT. I'm afraid that Meralco will lose again; that could really trigger trading Newsome.

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March 02, 2024, 12:59:57 PM
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It seems like no one is talking about the games today.

The first game is over, with the bossing winning again as they beat TNT by 11 points (87-76). Currently, we have the Rain or Shine and the Meralco Bolts, and it's looking good for Meralco as they are leading after the first half. They are aiming for a bounce back after the loss in the opening.

The score is 42-49 in favor of Meralco. Anyone here interested in taking a higher risk by betting on ROS to win?

Another overtime game; last night, NLEX vs. Northport went to overtime, and now we have this game. It's never safe to have a good lead because any team can have a good run and bring the game to OT. I'm afraid that Meralco will lose again; that could really trigger trading Newsome.

Good thing they were able to survive. the Bolts are leading by 3 points, and Maliksi is on the free-throw line now for 2 shot attempts. He missed the first attempt but made the second. With 7.5 seconds left, let's see what will be the strategy of ROS coming from the timeout because if they make a 3, they are still down by 1 point. I think Meralco is the favorite in betting, so most likely, they will not cover the spread.

121-117 is the final score ( not sure what was the point spread for Meralco).

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March 02, 2024, 01:59:33 PM
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It seems like no one is talking about the games today.

The first game is over, with the bossing winning again as they beat TNT by 11 points (87-76). Currently, we have the Rain or Shine and the Meralco Bolts, and it's looking good for Meralco as they are leading after the first half. They are aiming for a bounce back after the loss in the opening.

The score is 42-49 in favor of Meralco. Anyone here interested in taking a higher risk by betting on ROS to win?

Another overtime game; last night, NLEX vs. Northport went to overtime, and now we have this game. It's never safe to have a good lead because any team can have a good run and bring the game to OT. I'm afraid that Meralco will lose again; that could really trigger trading Newsome.

Good thing they were able to survive. the Bolts are leading by 3 points, and Maliksi is on the free-throw line now for 2 shot attempts. He missed the first attempt but made the second. With 7.5 seconds left, let's see what will be the strategy of ROS coming from the timeout because if they make a 3, they are still down by 1 point. I think Meralco is the favorite in betting, so most likely, they will not cover the spread.

121-117 is the final score ( not sure what was the point spread for Meralco).

Maliksi is now the top scorer of this team. However, sometimes he loses his focus, which can disrupt their game. He is the only one consistent outside shooter, so if he has a hot shooting night, it makes the team better and unpredictable. As we all know, this team usually drives the ball to the paint with a lot of passing. The strength of Meralco lies in their defense, but their offense is not as strong.

Maliksi finished with 26 points in this game, an impressive performance for him, but he doesn't drop these kinds of numbers on a regular basis.

Regarding the betting odds, Rain or Shine was the favorite, so the Moneyline for Meralco was certainly attractive.

https://777score.ph/basketball/matches/meralco-bolts-vs-rain-or-shine-elasto-painters
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March 02, 2024, 11:12:06 PM
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It seems like no one is talking about the games today.

The first game is over, with the bossing winning again as they beat TNT by 11 points (87-76). Currently, we have the Rain or Shine and the Meralco Bolts, and it's looking good for Meralco as they are leading after the first half. They are aiming for a bounce back after the loss in the opening.

The score is 42-49 in favor of Meralco. Anyone here interested in taking a higher risk by betting on ROS to win?

Another overtime game; last night, NLEX vs. Northport went to overtime, and now we have this game. It's never safe to have a good lead because any team can have a good run and bring the game to OT. I'm afraid that Meralco will lose again; that could really trigger trading Newsome.

Good thing they were able to survive. the Bolts are leading by 3 points, and Maliksi is on the free-throw line now for 2 shot attempts. He missed the first attempt but made the second. With 7.5 seconds left, let's see what will be the strategy of ROS coming from the timeout because if they make a 3, they are still down by 1 point. I think Meralco is the favorite in betting, so most likely, they will not cover the spread.

121-117 is the final score ( not sure what was the point spread for Meralco).

Maliksi is now the top scorer of this team. However, sometimes he loses his focus, which can disrupt their game. He is the only one consistent outside shooter, so if he has a hot shooting night, it makes the team better and unpredictable. As we all know, this team usually drives the ball to the paint with a lot of passing. The strength of Meralco lies in their defense, but their offense is not as strong.

Maliksi finished with 26 points in this game, an impressive performance for him, but he doesn't drop these kinds of numbers on a regular basis.

Regarding the betting odds, Rain or Shine was the favorite, so the Moneyline for Meralco was certainly attractive.

https://777score.ph/basketball/matches/meralco-bolts-vs-rain-or-shine-elasto-painters

Lucky for those who picked the Bolts especially for risk takers who take the ML that's sweet another missed opportunity for ROS very close game but unable to snatch this one from a struggling Meralco, a perfect timing for Maliksi to save the day, knowing him and his capability he's one of those shooters who can give you decent percentage if you let him take a free shot, I like him before when he's still playing with Big Game James and the rest of the hotshots, a good replacement to give some rest either for Simon or Yap.

Congrats to all those who win and for those who ake the favorite, just need to move forward and try to find another potential game that may give you opportunity to bounce back and recover.

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March 03, 2024, 08:17:10 AM
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Congrats to all those who win and for those who ake the favorite, just need to move forward and try to find another potential game that may give you opportunity to bounce back and recover.

The betting continues today. The first game has already started between NLEX vs. DYIP. NLEX is enjoying a 10-point lead after the first quarter and the score is 57-47, but this is far from over yet. There's still the 2nd half, and anything can happen, so I would bet on DYIP here with a handicap of +8.5.

The second game, by the way, is between Northport and Converge. These teams are just playing against each other with a little rest; the giant teams haven't come out yet, probably given enough time to rest as they finished late last season. SMB, Ginebra, Magnolia, and Phoenix, these teams haven't played yet.
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Congrats to all those who win and for those who ake the favorite, just need to move forward and try to find another potential game that may give you opportunity to bounce back and recover.

The betting continues today. The first game has already started between NLEX vs. DYIP. NLEX is enjoying a 10-point lead after the first quarter and the score is 57-47, but this is far from over yet. There's still the 2nd half, and anything can happen, so I would bet on DYIP here with a handicap of +8.5.

Congratulations, that was a good catch. Not only did they cover the +8.5, but they did more than that by winning the game with a final score of 99-95. The second half was all DYIP, especially the fourth quarter. So again, trash teams making a good start here. I think both DYIP and Blackwater are already 2-0 so far.

The second game, by the way, is between Northport and Converge. These teams are just playing against each other with a little rest; the giant teams haven't come out yet, probably given enough time to rest as they finished late last season. SMB, Ginebra, Magnolia, and Phoenix, these teams haven't played yet.
Converge had 11 points lead after the first half. We might see the same scenario in the first game, so I think betting on Northport is the right play.

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The second game, by the way, is between Northport and Converge. These teams are just playing against each other with a little rest; the giant teams haven't come out yet, probably given enough time to rest as they finished late last season. SMB, Ginebra, Magnolia, and Phoenix, these teams haven't played yet.
Converge had 11 points lead after the first half. We might see the same scenario in the first game, so I think betting on Northport is the right play.

This might be different from the first game as Converge is slowly pulling away here. From an 11-point lead now up to 15 points. I guess Northport might be a little tired here, so I don't find it easy for them to come back from this huge deficit.

Tolentino is leading Northport, but with 15 points only, while on Converge, they have Stockton and Arana who scored 17 and 18 points, respectively. I would not take the high handicap here as it might only increase my losses. Guess we just have to finish watching this game and prepare to analyze the NBA games tomorrow. After this, PBA will resume on its normal schedule, which will start on Wednesday.

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March 03, 2024, 12:12:08 PM
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Congrats to all those who win and for those who ake the favorite, just need to move forward and try to find another potential game that may give you opportunity to bounce back and recover.

The betting continues today. The first game has already started between NLEX vs. DYIP. NLEX is enjoying a 10-point lead after the first quarter and the score is 57-47, but this is far from over yet. There's still the 2nd half, and anything can happen, so I would bet on DYIP here with a handicap of +8.5.

Congratulations, that was a good catch. Not only did they cover the +8.5, but they did more than that by winning the game with a final score of 99-95. The second half was all DYIP, especially the fourth quarter. So again, trash teams making a good start here. I think both DYIP and Blackwater are already 2-0 so far.


Yeah both DYIP and Bossing have their good start, though it's too early but still a good improvement for this season, we are enjoying farm team winning and for those gabmlers who loves to read the patterns it might be possible to take the handicap for this underdog teams as they are bringing decent outcomes, just saying' but don't take my word it's just a simple observation  hahaha..

The second game, by the way, is between Northport and Converge. These teams are just playing against each other with a little rest; the giant teams haven't come out yet, probably given enough time to rest as they finished late last season. SMB, Ginebra, Magnolia, and Phoenix, these teams haven't played yet.
Converge had 11 points lead after the first half. We might see the same scenario in the first game, so I think betting on Northport is the right play.

This might be different from the first game as Converge is slowly pulling away here. From an 11-point lead now up to 15 points. I guess Northport might be a little tired here, so I don't find it easy for them to come back from this huge deficit.

Tolentino is leading Northport, but with 15 points only, while on Converge, they have Stockton and Arana who scored 17 and 18 points, respectively. I would not take the high handicap here as it might only increase my losses. Guess we just have to finish watching this game and prepare to analyze the NBA games tomorrow. After this, PBA will resume on its normal schedule, which will start on Wednesday.

Seems that it might be doing the same pattern, as of this moment under 5mins Converge lead was already been cut to a single digit only 2 points and Northport still have a lot of time to snatch this or for those who bet during live handicap it might be possible that they are now comfortably waiting for the outcome.

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March 03, 2024, 12:13:00 PM
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The second game, by the way, is between Northport and Converge. These teams are just playing against each other with a little rest; the giant teams haven't come out yet, probably given enough time to rest as they finished late last season. SMB, Ginebra, Magnolia, and Phoenix, these teams haven't played yet.
Converge had 11 points lead after the first half. We might see the same scenario in the first game, so I think betting on Northport is the right play.

This might be different from the first game as Converge is slowly pulling away here. From an 11-point lead now up to 15 points. I guess Northport might be a little tired here, so I don't find it easy for them to come back from this huge deficit.

Tolentino is leading Northport, but with 15 points only, while on Converge, they have Stockton and Arana who scored 17 and 18 points, respectively. I would not take the high handicap here as it might only increase my losses. Guess we just have to finish watching this game and prepare to analyze the NBA games tomorrow. After this, PBA will resume on its normal schedule, which will start on Wednesday.

Wait a minute, this is not over yet as Northport had a big run in the 4th quarter. From a 15-point deficit, now it's only down to 5 points, and we have a ball game here. They might even get a win here; I'm optimistic. There's still plenty of time, so it's possible.

PBA games so far are very unpredictable; it's never over until the clock turns to zero. Good luck. I hope Converge will choke, or maybe we will see another overtime game tonight.

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March 03, 2024, 01:37:31 PM
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The second game, by the way, is between Northport and Converge. These teams are just playing against each other with a little rest; the giant teams haven't come out yet, probably given enough time to rest as they finished late last season. SMB, Ginebra, Magnolia, and Phoenix, these teams haven't played yet.
Converge had 11 points lead after the first half. We might see the same scenario in the first game, so I think betting on Northport is the right play.

This might be different from the first game as Converge is slowly pulling away here. From an 11-point lead now up to 15 points. I guess Northport might be a little tired here, so I don't find it easy for them to come back from this huge deficit.

Tolentino is leading Northport, but with 15 points only, while on Converge, they have Stockton and Arana who scored 17 and 18 points, respectively. I would not take the high handicap here as it might only increase my losses. Guess we just have to finish watching this game and prepare to analyze the NBA games tomorrow. After this, PBA will resume on its normal schedule, which will start on Wednesday.

Wait a minute, this is not over yet as Northport had a big run in the 4th quarter. From a 15-point deficit, now it's only down to 5 points, and we have a ball game here. They might even get a win here; I'm optimistic. There's still plenty of time, so it's possible.

PBA games so far are very unpredictable; it's never over until the clock turns to zero. Good luck. I hope Converge will choke, or maybe we will see another overtime game tonight.

This is another surprising outcome. I thought that Converge already had control of the game, but they ended up losing. Another overtime game this season and I think this is the 3rd time already I witnessed an overtime game. Northport managed to beat Converge 104-112, just unbelievable. Are they rigging this? Grin

Anyway, great game by Tolentino who finished with 31 points despite his struggle from beyond the arc.

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This is another surprising outcome. I thought that Converge already had control of the game, but they ended up losing. Another overtime game this season and I think this is the 3rd time already I witnessed an overtime game. Northport managed to beat Converge 104-112, just unbelievable. Are they rigging this? Grin

Anyway, great game by Tolentino who finished with 31 points despite his struggle from beyond the arc.

Tolentino has now become the star player of Northport, but let's watch out for a possible trade in the future as that could happen since Northport are not a championship team and they can easily give up their star player.

Some players we are seeing in NLEX now came from Northport, Anthony and Bollick is  now leading the NLEX... Also, before there was Romeo and Pringle, but now they are in the SMB team. So even if this team (Northport) will improve, they will not become a championship team.

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March 04, 2024, 09:22:10 PM
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Yeah both DYIP and Bossing have their good start, though it's too early but still a good improvement for this season, we are enjoying farm team winning and for those gabmlers who loves to read the patterns it might be possible to take the handicap for this underdog teams as they are bringing decent outcomes, just saying' but don't take my word it's just a simple observation  hahaha..
Speaking of BlackWater Bossing. I've watched a video of Pingris together with Paul Artadi and James Yap. It seems that they're bestfriends and Ping said that get angry whoever wants to get angry with what he's about to say but it should be Magnolia where James Yap is playing and should retire but they didn't take him. I agree to him, he's able to contribute very well to the franchise for how many years and yet, they're done with him and didn't give him his final season or games with them. Anyway, the Bossing is doing good and I think this is the first time seeing them at this good start. Thanks to Bossing management for taking care of James Yap.

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March 05, 2024, 10:19:30 AM
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This is another surprising outcome. I thought that Converge already had control of the game, but they ended up losing. Another overtime game this season and I think this is the 3rd time already I witnessed an overtime game. Northport managed to beat Converge 104-112, just unbelievable. Are they rigging this? Grin

Anyway, great game by Tolentino who finished with 31 points despite his struggle from beyond the arc.

Tolentino has now become the star player of Northport, but let's watch out for a possible trade in the future as that could happen since Northport are not a championship team and they can easily give up their star player.

Some players we are seeing in NLEX now came from Northport, Anthony and Bollick is  now leading the NLEX... Also, before there was Romeo and Pringle, but now they are in the SMB team. So even if this team (Northport) will improve, they will not become a championship team.

When Pringle and TR7 was playing with them they are making their way to be competitive if I remember it right they manage to right the playoffs but lost against Alaska, and just like what you mentioned, maybe Tolentino is showingsome game but we know this team serving as a farm team maybe we might see Tolentino playing with SMC group just like how TR7 and Pringle they both been traded and enjoy the benefits of that trade, and just noting Tolentino was a part of Gin kings before he has been traded with the way he's showing interest may rise again from boss Al', just a call away and he might set it up to one of his teams.


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March 05, 2024, 10:59:32 AM
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Speaking of BlackWater Bossing. I've watched a video of Pingris together with Paul Artadi and James Yap. It seems that they're bestfriends and Ping said that get angry whoever wants to get angry with what he's about to say but it should be Magnolia where James Yap is playing and should retire but they didn't take him. I agree to him, he's able to contribute very well to the franchise for how many years and yet, they're done with him and didn't give him his final season or games with them. Anyway, the Bossing is doing good and I think this is the first time seeing them at this good start. Thanks to Bossing management for taking care of James Yap.

I also saw that video and i could say that PBA is purely business and retiring James Yap's jersey on the team of Magnolia is what a PBA and fan of James wanted to see but politics might have an effect on this matter. There were a lot of players who played for SMC Group of Companies like Danny Ildefonso whose jersey was not retired on the SMB Beermen so i think those three SMC teams are not used in doing this thing.
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March 05, 2024, 11:43:12 AM
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Speaking of BlackWater Bossing. I've watched a video of Pingris together with Paul Artadi and James Yap. It seems that they're bestfriends and Ping said that get angry whoever wants to get angry with what he's about to say but it should be Magnolia where James Yap is playing and should retire but they didn't take him. I agree to him, he's able to contribute very well to the franchise for how many years and yet, they're done with him and didn't give him his final season or games with them. Anyway, the Bossing is doing good and I think this is the first time seeing them at this good start. Thanks to Bossing management for taking care of James Yap.

I also saw that video and i could say that PBA is purely business and retiring James Yap's jersey on the team of Magnolia is what a PBA and fan of James wanted to see but politics might have an effect on this matter. There were a lot of players who played for SMC Group of Companies like Danny Ildefonso whose jersey was not retired on the SMB Beermen so i think those three SMC teams are not used in doing this thing.

Maybe they are not doing any move unless if they can use the player to win a championship and provably they don't see that to happen since Yap is out of his prime already so maybe they just think about its just a waste of their slot to sign him back on their team that's why we didn't see that to happen. I guess Yap will not retire as a hot shot and we won't see that to happen since what's more better for SMC team is to win a championship for their team.

Maybe they just cut off the drama since they can only get temporary hype for that and maybe the management didn't see any long term effect that's why maybe they prepared to get more valuable player which can help their team for long term.

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March 05, 2024, 12:47:32 PM
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Tomorrow, another familiar teams will be facing.

In the first game, it's Bossing vs Converge, and the second game is Bolts vs NLEX. This is looking like teams have been shortened in numbers. I hope these times are not yet tired for playing a lot while other teams are still resting. Since we've seen them play in the past few days, then I think it would be easier to select the winner, or the trend will continue, which is one team is down big time in the first half, but they will have a big run in the 2nd half to win the game.

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Tomorrow, another familiar teams will be facing.

In the first game, it's Bossing vs Converge, and the second game is Bolts vs NLEX. This is looking like teams have been shortened in numbers. I hope these times are not yet tired for playing a lot while other teams are still resting. Since we've seen them play in the past few days, then I think it would be easier to select the winner, or the trend will continue, which is one team is down big time in the first half, but they will have a big run in the 2nd half to win the game.

The first game has been concluded and Northport beat Converge. Now the 2nd game has just started, NLEX vs Bolts, I think i'm going for NLEX here as I like them not a lot of hesitation, if they are shooting well especially from the outside, this should be an easy win for them. I'm wondering why they are heavily underdog, currently at +5.5, but it doesn't matter I'm still gonna take the moneyline.

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