2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[Distinctin]

People would understand if when they let Teng and Ahamnissi  they also have added some players with the same quality of the players they let go. Thing now is different, they are playing like an undermanned team, so when they didn't even look like a championship when the two was still in the team, now they should look like the same team in the farm division.  

Yup, better when they let both players they've used their cap to hire decent players who can really provide them the lift and continue being a contender, but instead they just let them go and continue playing with what is left for them, just playing without any chance of winning the game.

Same with your assessment with the current roster, they might be weaker than those known farm teams.

This season is the best testament that they have become one of the worst team in the PBA. They are still winless, but after this long break, let's see if they could really figure out how to start winning.

They are at the bottom of standing (https://pba.ph/standings) 0-5 so far, this team still has a little hope but it will take a miracle for them to improve. Even getting at least 1 win this season, I think it will help a bit to boast their confidence as currently they don't have the same confidence anymore.

I don't know what would happen to this team but adding to the list of farm terms affects the reputation the league more. and nowadays, with the social media platforms, people could hear some rumors against the league that they might be disappointed.

Indeed, but the show must continue, even if they add themselve to the famr team list, no effects for the league officiating officials, as long as they are recieving their paychecks the league will proceed.

There's no reason for them to stay in that team if that is a farm team. I think there are players in the team that has a potential to play overseas, they should choose that path instead.

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[Fredomago]

People would understand if when they let Teng and Ahamnissi  they also have added some players with the same quality of the players they let go. Thing now is different, they are playing like an undermanned team, so when they didn't even look like a championship when the two was still in the team, now they should look like the same team in the farm division.  

Yup, better when they let both players they've used their cap to hire decent players who can really provide them the lift and continue being a contender, but instead they just let them go and continue playing with what is left for them, just playing without any chance of winning the game.

Same with your assessment with the current roster, they might be weaker than those known farm teams.

This season is the best testament that they have become one of the worst team in the PBA. They are still winless, but after this long break, let's see if they could really figure out how to start winning.

They are at the bottom of standing (https://pba.ph/standings) 0-5 so far, this team still has a little hope but it will take a miracle for them to improve. Even getting at least 1 win this season, I think it will help a bit to boast their confidence as currently they don't have the same confidence anymore.

There's nothing left in terms of winning chance though we don't know maybe a manipulation can be done to burned most of those bets if ever they'll be playing against stronger team, as knowing the pattern inside PBA, there are unexpected outcome that happened, things that you just going to need to move on and forget if ever you've got victimized, I mean the rumorsa bout game-fixing though nothing has been proved yet.

I don't know what would happen to this team but adding to the list of farm terms affects the reputation the league more. and nowadays, with the social media platforms, people could hear some rumors against the league that they might be disappointed.

Indeed, but the show must continue, even if they add themselve to the famr team list, no effects for the league officiating officials, as long as they are recieving their paychecks the league will proceed.

There's no reason for them to stay in that team if that is a farm team. I think there are players in the team that has a potential to play overseas, they should choose that path instead.

If given a chance better to choose that route, they know by fact that the managements are not aiming to win a title or even become a competitive squad, having another offer like that may be the best option to continue with their passions.

[Maslate]

If given a chance better to choose that route, they know by fact that the managements are not aiming to win a title or even become a competitive squad, having another offer like that may be the best option to continue with their passions.

Unfortunately we only have one league in the Philippines that pays well, so their best opportunity is to improve and have a chance to play overseas. It's just sad that it seems like PBA has now becoming a training ground only and good that bastketball leagues in Asia are getting Filipino imports, Japan and Korea is very consistent on this.

Converge is not gonna win a title I guess, it's too early for this team to become a trash team as it's not even 5 years yet before they were acquired from Alaska and now they are already showing their true colors.

[Finestream]

If given a chance better to choose that route, they know by fact that the managements are not aiming to win a title or even become a competitive squad, having another offer like that may be the best option to continue with their passions.

Unfortunately we only have one league in the Philippines that pays well, so their best opportunity is to improve and have a chance to play overseas. It's just sad that it seems like PBA has now becoming a training ground only and good that bastketball leagues in Asia are getting Filipino imports, Japan and Korea is very consistent on this.

Converge is not gonna win a title I guess, it's too early for this team to become a trash team as it's not even 5 years yet before they were acquired from Alaska and now they are already showing their true colors.

That's very sad, and unfortunately if there's a player that will likely get a contract overseas, it should be coming from a great team, not a farm team. Top players in a farm team are likely already being acquired to a strong team, they are just making sure that a certain player/s would develop his skills before getting sign or traded in giant teams like SMB and TNT.  There was a rumor that Justin Arana will be acquired by Ginebra, that's a success for him, but bad for the team and the players that will be left.

[Fredomago]

If given a chance better to choose that route, they know by fact that the managements are not aiming to win a title or even become a competitive squad, having another offer like that may be the best option to continue with their passions.

Unfortunately we only have one league in the Philippines that pays well, so their best opportunity is to improve and have a chance to play overseas. It's just sad that it seems like PBA has now becoming a training ground only and good that bastketball leagues in Asia are getting Filipino imports, Japan and Korea is very consistent on this.

Converge is not gonna win a title I guess, it's too early for this team to become a trash team as it's not even 5 years yet before they were acquired from Alaska and now they are already showing their true colors.

That's very sad, and unfortunately if there's a player that will likely get a contract overseas, it should be coming from a great team, not a farm team. Top players in a farm team are likely already being acquired to a strong team, they are just making sure that a certain player/s would develop his skills before getting sign or traded in giant teams like SMB and TNT.  There was a rumor that Justin Arana will be acquired by Ginebra, that's a success for him, but bad for the team and the players that will be left.

That's the real destination, unless the player got exemptional talent that they've develop overtime, they can pick to play overseas but before that, they will be in the monitoring sight by these two big franchise who control the league, before they can get the offer abroad they might be traded either with SMC or MVP group of company where we all know that each players who are in these two giant competing companies got a better compensations and very decent security from their contracts.

They might choose to stay and play with the PBA if either MVP or SMC will offer them a contract, no need to go out of the country just continue playing great and have all the luxuries that you deserves.

[Finestream]

If given a chance better to choose that route, they know by fact that the managements are not aiming to win a title or even become a competitive squad, having another offer like that may be the best option to continue with their passions.

Unfortunately we only have one league in the Philippines that pays well, so their best opportunity is to improve and have a chance to play overseas. It's just sad that it seems like PBA has now becoming a training ground only and good that bastketball leagues in Asia are getting Filipino imports, Japan and Korea is very consistent on this.

Converge is not gonna win a title I guess, it's too early for this team to become a trash team as it's not even 5 years yet before they were acquired from Alaska and now they are already showing their true colors.

That's very sad, and unfortunately if there's a player that will likely get a contract overseas, it should be coming from a great team, not a farm team. Top players in a farm team are likely already being acquired to a strong team, they are just making sure that a certain player/s would develop his skills before getting sign or traded in giant teams like SMB and TNT.  There was a rumor that Justin Arana will be acquired by Ginebra, that's a success for him, but bad for the team and the players that will be left.

That's the real destination, unless the player got exemptional talent that they've develop overtime, they can pick to play overseas but before that, they will be in the monitoring sight by these two big franchise who control the league, before they can get the offer abroad they might be traded either with SMC or MVP group of company where we all know that each players who are in these two giant competing companies got a better compensations and very decent security from their contracts.

They might choose to stay and play with the PBA if either MVP or SMC will offer them a contract, no need to go out of the country just continue playing great and have all the luxuries that you deserves.

That was not the case for Bollick, he never played with SMB or TNT. He was able to play abroad but decided to come back since his wife was pregnant an now playing like an import with the NLEX. Also, there was Matthew Wright that was playing with Fuel Masters but now playing in Japan, and Ravena as well.  So its not necessary for them to play with the giant teams before they will catch the attention of the overseas leagues because if they have talent, they'll be invited to play.

[Maslate]

It's very silent here,.. what's new for the PBA?

I have one here, it's Marc Pingris, he is a hot topic now due to the news that he was link with Kim Rodriguez an actress I guess beacuse I've here in Batang Quiapo and she is really a beauty.

What can you say about this rumors kabayan?

https://www.rappler.com/sports/pba/marc-pingris-denies-romantic-involvement-kim-rodriguez-march-2024/

[Distinctin]

It's very silent here,.. what's new for the PBA?

I have one here, it's Marc Pingris, he is a hot topic now due to the news that he was link with Kim Rodriguez an actress I guess beacuse I've here in Batang Quiapo and she is really a beauty.

What can you say about this rumors kabayan?

https://www.rappler.com/sports/pba/marc-pingris-denies-romantic-involvement-kim-rodriguez-march-2024/

It will not be quit tomorrow because the game will resume.

We have some great double header tomorrow, [1] SMB vs Phoenix [2] Magnolia vs Ginebra...
That's fun to watch for sure and I think it will be a close game particularly the 2nd game...

About the Sakuragi, I can't blame him if he gets tempted with Kim Rodriguez, I mean she's hot... but anyway it was just a rumor, and we don't want to see a family man, known to be loyal would destroy his family.

[Fredomago]

It will not be quit tomorrow because the game will resume.

We have some great double header tomorrow, [1] SMB vs Phoenix [2] Magnolia vs Ginebra...
That's fun to watch for sure and I think it will be a close game particularly the 2nd game...

Yup, both games are interesting and even in credentials SMB got a good edge against Phoenix but for sure they will give some good competition knowing that they've improve last season, while in the 2nd game Magnolia might have something to entice the fans though against the crowd favorite, that's also something that both fans and bettors will need to assess deeper.

About the Sakuragi, I can't blame him if he gets tempted with Kim Rodriguez, I mean she's hot... but anyway it was just a rumor, and we don't want to see a family man, known to be loyal would destroy his family.

Rumors and it's been circling around I guess if ever that kind of thing really exist it will just die naturally knowing Sakuragi and the clan he belongs after this huge attentions it will be forgotten as Sakuragi's family will not go down to this level and allow this rumor to penetrate and ruined their lives.

[Japinat]

It will not be quit tomorrow because the game will resume.

We have some great double header tomorrow, [1] SMB vs Phoenix [2] Magnolia vs Ginebra...
That's fun to watch for sure and I think it will be a close game particularly the 2nd game...

Yup, both games are interesting and even in credentials SMB got a good edge against Phoenix but for sure they will give some good competition knowing that they've improve last season, while in the 2nd game Magnolia might have something to entice the fans though against the crowd favorite, that's also something that both fans and bettors will need to assess deeper.

Betting spread for the game.

Phoenix +9 vs San Miguel Beermen and Hotshots -3.5 vs Barangay Ginebra.

If I would cchoose between the two games, I'll choose the last game betting on Ginebra moneyline with 2.14. This a Sunday game, fans will be watching this and I think Ginebra now are very much healthy and well rested after a long break. Hopeful to see Thompson to play as Ginebra needs his energy to ignite their defense especially against a strong defensive team.

[chaser15]

It's very silent here,.. what's new for the PBA?

The PBA is currently on Holy Week break too that's why the thread is silent.

Anyway, the game will resume later, Easter Sunday, with a doubleheader between:

Phoenix FuelMasters vs San Miguel Beermen
Magnolia Hotshots vs Brgy. Ginebra

I'm expecting a big crowd at the Big Dome later on as it's the classic Manila Clasico in the 2nd game.

[goaldigger]

It's very silent here,.. what's new for the PBA?

The PBA is currently on Holy Week break too that's why the thread is silent.

Anyway, the game will resume later, Easter Sunday, with a doubleheader between:

Phoenix FuelMasters vs San Miguel Beermen
Magnolia Hotshots vs Brgy. Ginebra

I'm expecting a big crowd at the Big Dome later on as it's the classic Manila Clasico in the 2nd game.

It will be a big game today and yes I’m also expecting a big crowd especially it is still holiday.
What’s your prediction with this one?
I expect for SMB to get a win here and on the second game, I think Magnolia has a better chance of winning here. What’s the current odds for these match?

[bisdak40]

It will be a big game today and yes I’m also expecting a big crowd especially it is still holiday.
What’s your prediction with this one?
I expect for SMB to get a win here and on the second game, I think Magnolia has a better chance of winning here. What’s the current odds for these match?

After 12 days of day-off, PBA is back and for sure the crowd attendance will be massive since Ginebra will be playing in the second game against Magnolia. The latter is the slight favorite to win for tonight's match and i do agree with the odds maker here. The first game between the Beermen and Fuelmasters is a bit risky since the spread is high at 9.5.

Ginebra ML @2.32 vs Magnolia
SMB -9.5 @1.87 vs Phoenix

[Russlenat]

It will be a big game today and yes I’m also expecting a big crowd especially it is still holiday.
What’s your prediction with this one?
I expect for SMB to get a win here and on the second game, I think Magnolia has a better chance of winning here. What’s the current odds for these match?

After 12 days of day-off, PBA is back and for sure the crowd attendance will be massive since Ginebra will be playing in the second game against Magnolia. The latter is the slight favorite to win for tonight's match and i do agree with the odds maker here. The first game between the Beermen and Fuelmasters is a bit risky since the spread is high at 9.5.

Ginebra ML @2.32 vs Magnolia
SMB -9.5 @1.87 vs Phoenix

Congrats mate, great come back with two wins. Me, I lose on Ginebra because I got greedy, I'm following a special that I saw from other posters here, the 11+ points, I got x9 during live bet but it was short by 1 point.

Damn, that shot of Stand was a relief because despite there are only few seconds left, he still made a shot, it's understandable since point quotient is at play here, but it was kinda disrespectful coming from a winning team.. I thought it will end there but Magnolia by Jalalon also made the last shot which only made Ginebra to win by 10, just disappointed. 

[Viscore]

It will be a big game today and yes I’m also expecting a big crowd especially it is still holiday.
What’s your prediction with this one?
I expect for SMB to get a win here and on the second game, I think Magnolia has a better chance of winning here. What’s the current odds for these match?

After 12 days of day-off, PBA is back and for sure the crowd attendance will be massive since Ginebra will be playing in the second game against Magnolia. The latter is the slight favorite to win for tonight's match and i do agree with the odds maker here. The first game between the Beermen and Fuelmasters is a bit risky since the spread is high at 9.5.

Ginebra ML @2.32 vs Magnolia
SMB -9.5 @1.87 vs Phoenix

Congrats mate, great come back with two wins. Me, I lose on Ginebra because I got greedy, I'm following a special that I saw from other posters here, the 11+ points, I got x9 during live bet but it was short by 1 point.

Damn, that shot of Stand was a relief because despite there are only few seconds left, he still made a shot, it's understandable since point quotient is at play here, but it was kinda disrespectful coming from a winning team.. I thought it will end there but Magnolia by Jalalon also made the last shot which only made Ginebra to win by 10, just disappointed. 

You took a big odds, your chance to win is you get too lucky. A one point loss is very frustrating but that's gambling, you lose or you win, all you can do is just accept the outcome... Ginebra was listed as underdog because they got blown out by the Meralco Bolts on their last game, but they have a good come back game and beat a strong Magnolia Hotshots team. It seems like Magnolia is still dominated by the two SMB teams (ginebra and Beerman)...

We saw in that game the old Ginebra, the kind of defense they played was the key for winning. As we can see the game was a low scoring one, it favors on both as they love to play great defense but it was the more experience team that had a victory in the end. If we look at the boxscore of this fight ginebra played more balance offense as all the starters are in double digit.

[Fredomago]

It will be a big game today and yes I’m also expecting a big crowd especially it is still holiday.
What’s your prediction with this one?
I expect for SMB to get a win here and on the second game, I think Magnolia has a better chance of winning here. What’s the current odds for these match?

After 12 days of day-off, PBA is back and for sure the crowd attendance will be massive since Ginebra will be playing in the second game against Magnolia. The latter is the slight favorite to win for tonight's match and i do agree with the odds maker here. The first game between the Beermen and Fuelmasters is a bit risky since the spread is high at 9.5.

Ginebra ML @2.32 vs Magnolia
SMB -9.5 @1.87 vs Phoenix

Congrats Kabayan! both pick won, like what you mentioned SMB really deserves that favorite they took over every single quarter and Phoenix don't have anything to rally back, SMB is too much for them looking with their scoring machines CJ as the main one with Cruz and TR7 also doing the damage, Abay almost don't need to force himelf inside.

While in the second game, it was a entertaining game with these two sister teams, reliving the Manila Classico and for sure fans enjoy that exchanges of attacks and counter defenses, some dramas while playing but Gin kings really performs with the heart, Japeth and Malonzo came out in the last stretch providing offense that's gave them the rally to have a comforting distance and take the game away from Magnolia!

[Kelvinid]

While in the second game, it was a entertaining game with these two sister teams, reliving the Manila Classico and for sure fans enjoy that exchanges of attacks and counter defenses, some dramas while playing but Gin kings really performs with the heart, Japeth and Malonzo came out in the last stretch providing offense that's gave them the rally to have a comforting distance and take the game away from Magnolia!

It was an enjoyable game because it ended as a low scoring game. When it's a low scoring game, you know both teams are playing hard, just lucky the Ginebra won that game which I think was also a public favorite, I'd say the public won money on that game as Ginebra being the underdog gives a huge moneyline odds.

Now SMB owned the solo spot at top 1 with 3-0 record, followed by NLEX with 4-1 and Northport sits at 3rd with 3-1 record, tied with Ginebra.

[Finestream]

While in the second game, it was a entertaining game with these two sister teams, reliving the Manila Classico and for sure fans enjoy that exchanges of attacks and counter defenses, some dramas while playing but Gin kings really performs with the heart, Japeth and Malonzo came out in the last stretch providing offense that's gave them the rally to have a comforting distance and take the game away from Magnolia!

It was an enjoyable game because it ended as a low scoring game. When it's a low scoring game, you know both teams are playing hard, just lucky the Ginebra won that game which I think was also a public favorite, I'd say the public won money on that game as Ginebra being the underdog gives a huge moneyline odds.

That's all you can expect from a team that are focus on defense, good thing Ginebra won, otherwise it will not look good for them since they are the favorite team in the league. Thompson is out and they are winning games, that's a good sign, I would say they have a chance to win a championship this conference.

Now SMB owned the solo spot at top 1 with 3-0 record, followed by NLEX with 4-1 and Northport sits at 3rd with 3-1 record, tied with Ginebra.

SMB is still the team to team, with a healthy JMF, SMB will dominate the paint and most likely they'll win the champion.
However, Ginebra vs SMB seemed to be a good match up, crash that Magnolia as sometimes they are boring to watch due to their offense not really that good especially the outside shooting, and Ginebra has more fans so the finals will be more fun.

[goinmerry]

SMB is still the team to team, with a healthy JMF, SMB will dominate the paint and most likely they'll win the champion.
However, Ginebra vs SMB seemed to be a good match up, crash that Magnolia as sometimes they are boring to watch due to their offense not really that good especially the outside shooting, and Ginebra has more fans so the finals will be more fun.

Since it's the All-Filipino Conference, expect San Miguel Beermen to be always the team to beat especially with Fajardo on board.

Since that was the always situation in every AFC, I'm sure other top teams like Gin Kings and Magnolia already have a strategy to contain Fajardo as possible as they can be in the paint while also guarding SMB's sharpshooters on the perimeter.

However, we still don't know if SMB can maintain the top spot as who knows a surprising and unexpected thing will happen along the way.

We are just in the early phase of the elimination game anyway and there are still several games left.

[Fredomago]

SMB is still the team to team, with a healthy JMF, SMB will dominate the paint and most likely they'll win the champion.
However, Ginebra vs SMB seemed to be a good match up, crash that Magnolia as sometimes they are boring to watch due to their offense not really that good especially the outside shooting, and Ginebra has more fans so the finals will be more fun.

Since it's the All-Filipino Conference, expect San Miguel Beermen to be always the team to beat especially with Fajardo on board.

Since that was the always situation in every AFC, I'm sure other top teams like Gin Kings and Magnolia already have a strategy to contain Fajardo as possible as they can be in the paint while also guarding SMB's sharpshooters on the perimeter.

However, we still don't know if SMB can maintain the top spot as who knows a surprising and unexpected thing will happen along the way.

We are just in the early phase of the elimination game anyway and there are still several games left.

Stats wise SMB always have that big edge against any teams though we can't rely on it as there are unexpected outcomes that the game produces,  most of the time,  we call it manipulation or game fixing,  knowing that there's only two major franchises that really controlling the league,  though that's just opinion or speculation but in terms of capacities SMB have that advantage since JMF is being supported by those gunners who really stepping up, for me personally,  I can only see Gin kings who can match up against this heavyweight squad, they've got the manpower who can compete and a good coach who can boost the chemistries of each players who are playing around.