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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24%)
Real Madrid - 82 (67.8%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.6%)
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December 23, 2023, 07:26:16 PM
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I'm not surprised by Barcelona's recent low performance in La Liga this season, because Barcelona signed up low-ranked players who can not perform well most times. This season, you can not compare Real Madrid players with Barcelona players, the difference is very clear. Barcelona will continue to perform like this unless something is done during the January transfer window.
Barcelona recruits low-ranking players, of course one of the reasons is Barcelona's financial factors which are currently in decline, so we can see that the purchases of Barcelona and Real Madrid players are very different, Barcelona can only rely on players from the academy. . If Barcelona wants change, of course in the January transfer window they will have to bring in new players.
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Their financial troubles are well known and affecting their recruitment approach. Selling Messi to PSG hurt financially and on the pitch. It highlights how important finances are in modern football. Without the money to sign top players, they're in trouble. Silver lining, though. Long-term, developing academy players and training new signings could pay off. Its gradual, but it might produce a good homegrown team. This strategy may be Barcelona's sustainable solution.

Messi and Suarez gave them an edge, but their current play lacks it. No goal-hungry striker is visible. Watching their wingers and midfielders pass back when they could be creating chances is infuriating. Gundogan and Pedri are talented but must capitalise on counterattacks. I'm hopeful about this tough topic. Perhaps the January transfer window will provide much-needed change. Financial stability and on-field success must be balanced.

Financial backup is one of the biggest powers of big clubs. They buy players when they need to and players are also interested in joining them due to the club's heritage.

But Barcelona isn't even able to pay their players right now. Whenever they sign a new player, we have to hear things like they couldn't register him for La Liga because Barcelona is crossing the wage limit or something else. Recently they have been buying players out of contract or low performing players as @Mayor said above. This is a very sad scene to look at considering Barcelona is a club with a lot of heritage and history.

Their downfall has started since Messi left. Barcelona couldn't realize what Messi leaving would do to them. It is for the first time they are playing in UCL playoffs after he left. They won the La Liga last year though, but I think this is due to other teams not performing well and not because they were good. We can see how good they are right now. They have problems on the forward side and on the defense side. They need to do something about it because they even might not be able to play UCL next season.



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December 23, 2023, 07:27:54 PM
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The match has ended in the favour of Atletico Madrid and I'm not surprised. Sevilla has nothing going on for them right now. Their form is too bad right now to be a challenge for Atletico Madrid.

I don't know what it is with Atletico Madrid but 2 of their centre-backs got red cards in back to back matches.  Atletico Madrid regained their 3rd position with this victory over Barcelona.
This season things continued to get worst for Sevilla and I would have not expect them to get a comeback win, if Atletico Madrid were down to 10 men and this is what we saw today. Atletico Madrid has been in an excellent form this season just unfortunately that Madrid, Barca and Girona as been better while Barca is now losing in the title race and Atletico finally caught up with them and if Girona continues like this then they may finish 3rd or 4th place cause I don't see Real Madrid dropping point.

If Barcelona's performance doesn't develop, they might be even out of the top 4 in the next few game weeks if they doesn’t develop. Their forward needs improvement and the defense needs improvements. I will agree with you, Lewandowski isn't certainly at his best form right now. Probably they could improve their squad in the January transfer market
Let be realistic Barcelona don't have any choice than to stick with what they have and hope Lewandowski will get back to his best quickly or try to not depend on a striker rather any of the players can get a goal because what matters in the end is for a team to win. My reason for this is that Barcelona don't need another under performing players like Ferran Torres and Felix but a player who is consistent like Lautaro Martinez but this they can't get with their current financial crisis and so its better to stick with what they have

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December 23, 2023, 07:47:32 PM
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There is a postponed match between Atletico Madrid vs Sevilla today, yes it's a match that should have happened in week 4. I can't count on Sevilla in this match, because this season they are very worrying, in La Liga they are struggling to rise and in the Champions League they have to go home early without even winning 1 victory.
It looks like Atletico Madrid will be able to comfortably win this match, and they can restore their last 2 matches that ended without a win. Sevilla is a very good opportunity for Atletico Madrid to win, especially this is a match that will be held at their own headquarters.

The match has started already and it's in the 20mins with both team playing 0-0. Just like you have said, Atletico Madrid should secure a win here as they are playing with a weaker team.
The match was really a tough one for the both side because there first half was very difficult for Atletico Madrid because it seems that Sevilla really understand the pattern of Atletico Madrid so they had to make sure that Atletico Madrid never get the chance to penetrate there defense line and also what helped Atletico Madrid was there home advantage.

Actually I was thinking at the beginning of the match that Atletico Madrid may likely score on the first half because there performance was quite impressive than Sevilla although I'm not disputing the fact that Sevilla did not perform well because irrespective of Atletico Madrid wining, Sevilla also played very well because if you check there possessions the difference is not much and also at the ending of the match Sevilla was putting more pressure on Atletico Madrid, although Atletico Madrid was very lucky to have scored before there red card because playing with short one is very difficult for a team, so perhaps if they had gotten the red card at the beginning of the match Sevilla would have utilize the opportunity and win them.

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December 23, 2023, 08:00:16 PM
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There is a postponed match between Atletico Madrid vs Sevilla today, yes it's a match that should have happened in week 4. I can't count on Sevilla in this match, because this season they are very worrying, in La Liga they are struggling to rise and in the Champions League they have to go home early without even winning 1 victory.
It looks like Atletico Madrid will be able to comfortably win this match, and they can restore their last 2 matches that ended without a win. Sevilla is a very good opportunity for Atletico Madrid to win, especially this is a match that will be held at their own headquarters.
However, the last few days were unforgettable for Atletico because they had to draw against Getafe and who would have thought they failed to secure the full 3 points at home. On the other hand, Sevilla actually got a landslide victory against Granada in the previous match. So I think Sevilla still has the same confidence as in all matches and even though this time the opponent is Atletico, I am quite sure that their rivalry as a big team in Spain since decades ago will still be lit through this match.

Atletico's advantage is that they are hosts again in two consecutive matches and this time they must win. But I think the draw will still haunt Atletico because Sevilla will also put pressure on them and can at least take one point on the way home. So both teams both need points to be able to improve their existing position again and for Atletico it feels even more special because they are motivated to immediately shift Barcelona from 3rd position.
Sevilla is in a very slump, but the big victory they achieved in their last match is of course used as capital for them to be able to rise from their downturn with quite high confidence and mentality after they managed to win last week while this is in contrast to Atletico Madrid.
However, this match is a prestigious match between two top La Liga teams, regardless of what the two teams are going through, this match will definitely be very fierce.

Atletico Madrid may be a slight favorite because they are playing at home but I have speculation that they will not win this match so I will bet on Sevilla.
It's true that this was a prestigious match between Atletico and Sevilla, we could see there were so many fouls and it was also a rain of cards that had to be taken out of the referee's pocket. Atletico achieved a narrow 1-0 victory and it happened right at the start of the second half through a goal scored by Llorente. In fact, there was still a lot of time remaining but all teams were using all their strength to attack and defend. Leading by one goal did not make Atletico calm and they had to play with 10 men after Soyuncu received a straight red card in the 70th minute.

With 20 minutes left, the Atletico players' stamina must have been very drained because they had to think about defending while attacking. However, fortunately for them, Sevilla was unable to score an equalizer in this match and the result was Atletico's 3 points. In the end, as I said before, Atletico has overtaken Barcelona in 3rd place and this is what they really deserve. But I am quite sad about your previous bet which said to bet on Sevilla and hopefully you can be more lucky in the next bet.

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December 23, 2023, 08:20:45 PM
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I agree with you. Barcelona's problem is not only the front line. Their midfield and defense have performed brilliantly in previous seasons. But both the midfield and defense have been weak this season. What Barcelona need most now is to strengthen the defense. If the defense is strong, Barcelona's overall situation will change. Barcelona have talented players in the front line. But due to the weakness of the midfielders, Barcelona is not getting good performance from the front line players. Xavi still needs a lot of money to strengthen the team. But due to the financial condition of the club, Xavi is not able to strengthen this team.
We know how Barcelona defendlines and midfield are not working, they're not in the picture for prominent clubs to win the La Liga or any other significant title this season. Barcelona faces finance inabalance equilibrium and now they're fighting to win over significant budgets on their radar. Xavi Hernandez have a whole lot of problem to deal with this season, we know how the club is fluctuating interms of performance and there's absolutely nothing the coach until January transfer window were he will sign prominent players and become confident of leading the club to glory path.
I feel like their midfield is not that bad, but their defense definitely doesn't work. The crazier thing is that we are talking about a team that has decent defenders as well, not like they have bad defenders, they are quite good at what they do and talented players.

I think they should reconsider how the yare approaching the games, they are using their defenders for their passing abilities and put them at way too ahead, which opens up a lot of chances for counter attacking, which means you need VERY quick defenders. Barcelona doesn't deal with very quick defenders, remember all those old players like puyol and pique, they were not really quick, they knew how to position, and they knew how to tackle, but they are not doing that now, they are nearly at midfield every position.
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December 23, 2023, 08:25:24 PM
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I feel like their midfield is not that bad, but their defense definitely doesn't work. The crazier thing is that we are talking about a team that has decent defenders as well, not like they have bad defenders, they are quite good at what they do and talented players.

I think they should reconsider how the yare approaching the games, they are using their defenders for their passing abilities and put them at way too ahead, which opens up a lot of chances for counter attacking, which means you need VERY quick defenders. Barcelona doesn't deal with very quick defenders, remember all those old players like puyol and pique, they were not really quick, they knew how to position, and they knew how to tackle, but they are not doing that now, they are nearly at midfield every position.

But it is impossible to compare Barcelona from today with Barcelona when Puyol and Pique were still playing. Barcelona around 2010 was the craziest team there has ever been in my opinion. Every single position was willed with literally the best player there was for the particular position. No part of the team outweighed another part of the team. Everything was balanced and really every player had a 10/10 in passing and ball control. Barcelona today doesn't have that by any means. They are all good players, but back then it was a different level.

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December 23, 2023, 08:44:48 PM
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Their downfall has started since Messi left. Barcelona couldn't realize what Messi leaving would do to them. It is for the first time they are playing in UCL playoffs after he left. They won the La Liga last year though, but I think this is due to other teams not performing well and not because they were good. We can see how good they are right now. They have problems on the forward side and on the defense side. They need to do something about it because they even might not be able to play UCL next season.
Barcelona current downfall cannot be separated from Messi departure, so far Messi has become the icon and soul of Barcelona game so that when Messi leaves, we can see that Barcelona performance continues to decline over time because the impact from Messi departure, apart that, of course financial is issues are the main problem for Barcelona is currently due to their carelessness when buying many players in the past, Barcelona current condition will makes slumped later on if their finances are still deteriorating..

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December 23, 2023, 08:46:16 PM
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Atletico Madrid won a difficult match, they need to be appreciated. They took the lead at the beginning of the second half with Marcos Llorente and controlled the game until the 70th minute. After Çağlar Söyüncü received a red card, they became a more defensive side and they did it well. It's not easy to play short, but they defended really well. We saw the classic Atletico game, a complete winner team that didn't concede a goal and won with a single goal. They are now back in the championship race and other teams are already fearing about them.

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December 23, 2023, 09:02:47 PM
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There is a postponed match between Atletico Madrid vs Sevilla today, yes it's a match that should have happened in week 4. I can't count on Sevilla in this match, because this season they are very worrying, in La Liga they are struggling to rise and in the Champions League they have to go home early without even winning 1 victory.
It looks like Atletico Madrid will be able to comfortably win this match, and they can restore their last 2 matches that ended without a win. Sevilla is a very good opportunity for Atletico Madrid to win, especially this is a match that will be held at their own headquarters.



At the moment Atletico Madrid vs Sevilla match is played but so far both teams are equal in terms of attack.  Because they will give enough effort to take the team to the top of victory. In terms of passing the ball, Atletico Madrid is a bit ahead, they have enough experienced players in their team. Goalkeepers and defenses Atletico Madrid cannot weaken other teams attacking. So today I think Atletico Madrid is more likely to win.

The match continued like a fight between two equal teams. In Atletico Madrid, Çağlar Söyüncü was sent off in the 70th minute and Atletico finished the remaining minutes incomplete. Still, they did not concede a goal and managed to get 3 points against Sevilla. It was a boring match overall, but Atletico emerged victorious.
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December 23, 2023, 09:06:04 PM
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Barcelona current downfall cannot be separated from Messi departure, so far Messi has become the icon and soul of Barcelona game so that when Messi leaves, we can see that Barcelona performance continues to decline over time because the impact from Messi departure, apart that, of course financial is issues are the main problem for Barcelona is currently due to their carelessness when buying many players in the past, Barcelona current condition will makes slumped later on if their finances are still deteriorating..

Nobody actually expected Barcelona to have it easy in the first seasons after Messi left because you can’t just replace a player who guarantees you at least 40 goal contributions each season. But Barca decline actually stated before Messi left Barca. Barcelona had the best team in history around 2009 and they were the most feared team before Some of them started retiring, This changes meant that Barca needed a team built around young players and when they started recruiting they made another mistake of recruiting some old players. Look at Real Madrid, they change all the attacking options with young stars and right now they can use same players to compete for upto 10 more years . Also the midfield of Madrid is also well occupied with youngsters which shows the difference in terms of future plans than Barcelona and that’s why the later falls in to crisis more often

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December 23, 2023, 09:13:23 PM
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Things didn't go the way I expected in the Atletico Madrid - Sevilla game. But still thankfully I got what I wanted from this game as Atletico Madrid won anyway. That red card by Caglar Soyuncu really made me worried about the possibility of a draw but Atletico Madrid showed once again how strong defense they have.

Sevilla were better than I expected today despite the loss. They might be really making progress this time but it is still early to make sure of something about them. They had a manager who didn't have any European football experience before. Now they have one who is familiar with it.

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December 23, 2023, 09:14:04 PM
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Their downfall has started since Messi left. Barcelona couldn't realize what Messi leaving would do to them. It is for the first time they are playing in UCL playoffs after he left. They won the La Liga last year though, but I think this is due to other teams not performing well and not because they were good. We can see how good they are right now. They have problems on the forward side and on the defense side. They need to do something about it because they even might not be able to play UCL next season.
Barcelona current downfall cannot be separated from Messi departure, so far Messi has become the icon and soul of Barcelona game so that when Messi leaves, we can see that Barcelona performance continues to decline over time because the impact from Messi departure, apart that, of course financial is issues are the main problem for Barcelona is currently due to their carelessness when buying many players in the past, Barcelona current condition will makes slumped later on if their finances are still deteriorating..

I don't think it's because Messi left the club that Barcelona is playing poorly, they played very well last season and win the league trophy and some minor cups. Barcelona has key players in the club and they deserve to perform well, but I think it's because of injuries that they can't compete with other teams this season, and they need to sign some new strikers in the next transfer windows, because I think Lewandowski is a weak player now that he can't score for is club again, because when Lewandowski is at Bayern Munich, I believe he will be the highest goal scorer and winner of the golden boot every season, but when he comes to Barcelona, he only performs in one season, and he has started playing weak games, they should find a better replacement for him next year so that the club will be stronger and perform well in the league.

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December 23, 2023, 09:20:42 PM
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The match has ended in the favour of Atletico Madrid and I'm not surprised. Sevilla has nothing going on for them right now. Their form is too bad right now to be a challenge for Atletico Madrid.

I don't know what it is with Atletico Madrid but 2 of their centre-backs got red cards in back to back matches.  Atletico Madrid regained their 3rd position with this victory over Barcelona.
This season things continued to get worst for Sevilla and I would have not expect them to get a comeback win, if Atletico Madrid were down to 10 men and this is what we saw today. Atletico Madrid has been in an excellent form this season just unfortunately that Madrid, Barca and Girona as been better while Barca is now losing in the title race and Atletico finally caught up with them and if Girona continues like this then they may finish 3rd or 4th place cause I don't see Real Madrid dropping point.er who is consistent like Lautaro Martinez but this they can't get with their current financial crisis and so its better to stick with what they have
Defeats seem to have become commonplace for Sevilla at the moment but it is not surprising because if we compare this season and last season they are not too different, it's just that there is a difference where last season they were in the Europa League after failing in the Champions League and surprisingly became champions there but for now something like that will not be possible because for the Champions League too they have been stranded at the bottom and cannot rise again.
Now they only have to focus on La Liga so that they can get out of their current situation but it is still very difficult for Sevilla to do.
But now of course the time is still very long if you really want to focus further because however at this time Sevilla can only expect to get out of a situation that is not safe for them and can at least be in the middle class because to return to the Champions League Zone or even the caste below the Europa League and Conference legaue it is very difficult so they only have to be able to survive in La Liga. The defeat against Atletico was painful but I think it was understandable.

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December 23, 2023, 09:23:57 PM
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Atletico Madrid won a difficult match, they need to be appreciated. They took the lead at the beginning of the second half with Marcos Llorente and controlled the game until the 70th minute. After Çağlar Söyüncü received a red card, they became a more defensive side and they did it well. It's not easy to play short, but they defended really well. We saw the classic Atletico game, a complete winner team that didn't concede a goal and won with a single goal. They are now back in the championship race and other teams are already fearing about them.

Atletico Madrid is one team I admire in the Spanish la Liga but the only problem the club have is not being able to win the la Liga for some time now, the reason why I like Atletico Madrid is because they don't concede much goals and they have a solid defense that makes it difficult for their opponents to penetrate. Atletico Madrid winning Sevilla is a big achievement for them as they have moved to third position in the la Liga table with equal points as Barcelona but Atletico Madrid is leading them on goal difference.

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The match continued like a fight between two equal teams. In Atletico Madrid, Çağlar Söyüncü was sent off in the 70th minute and Atletico finished the remaining minutes incomplete. Still, they did not concede a goal and managed to get 3 points against Sevilla. It was a boring match overall, but Atletico emerged victorious.
Reason i totally keep away from watching Atlético Madrid matches unless if they are playing against Real Madrid. Once they score a goal, the tactics change to defense mostly, which can be so boring. Sevilla on the other hand have completely lost it and I think we could see all the signs when they become the last in their Champion's League group stages.

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December 23, 2023, 09:55:59 PM
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The match continued like a fight between two equal teams. In Atletico Madrid, Çağlar Söyüncü was sent off in the 70th minute and Atletico finished the remaining minutes incomplete. Still, they did not concede a goal and managed to get 3 points against Sevilla. It was a boring match overall, but Atletico emerged victorious.
Reason i totally keep away from watching Atlético Madrid matches unless if they are playing against Real Madrid. Once they score a goal, the tactics change to defense mostly, which can be so boring. Sevilla on the other hand have completely lost it and I think we could see all the signs when they become the last in their Champion's League group stages.

Boring is not even the right expression for that. Watching Atletico Madrid when they scored the first goal is a pain in the ass. I was hoping for a very long time that they would introduce something like in other sports when the clock gets stopped after referee interventions or when there is a throw in or what not. Atletico Madrid easily manages to waste 30-45 seconds of the game with a single throw in. They should at least do it for the last 10 minutes of the game as that would solve a lot of problems these teams like Atletico cause for all the fans who just want to enjoy a nice soccer game on their screens.

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December 23, 2023, 11:00:30 PM
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Barcelona current downfall cannot be separated from Messi departure, so far Messi has become the icon and soul of Barcelona game so that when Messi leaves, we can see that Barcelona performance continues to decline over time because the impact from Messi departure, apart that, of course financial is issues are the main problem for Barcelona is currently due to their carelessness when buying many players in the past, Barcelona current condition will makes slumped later on if their finances are still deteriorating..
Actually, Barcelona still has good players who have been brought in, but it seems there are other problems that make it difficult for Barcelona to win their matches. You have to remember that when Robert Lewandowski first entered Barcelona and gave his full contribution, he was able to give Barcelona a victory. However, currently there seems to be a serious problem that makes the attackers from Barcelona unable to work as a team properly.

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Barcelona has been emptying up for years and now it's more apparent on the field than ever. I'm quite surprised of them winning the league last season are qualified to UEFA league knockout stage this year.
Atletico Madrid vs Sevilla would be the last game of the year on la liga. This would be more significant to Atletico Madrid as a win mean they would replace Barcelona for the third place for the holidays. Sevilla is not performing well and the game is in Madrid, so it should be a walk in park of Atletico Madrid.
Barcelona has gone through significant changes and challenges in recent years that leads to a noticeable impact on the team's performance. Their success in winning the league last season and qualifying for the UEFA Champions League knockout stage this year shows resilience and determination within the squad. It seems that this season they Focus more on Champions League due to failure to progress from group stage the last season.

The next match between Atletico Madrid and Sevilla does indeed carry wide implications, including three big clubs. If they win, they would replace Barcelona for the third place which makes it a noteworthy development for the team before the christmas holidays. The fact that the game being played in Madrid and considering Sevilla's current form suggests that Atletico Madrid might have an advantage. While it may seem like an easy game for Atletico Madrid, Sevilla still possesses the potential to create surprises, because they are in a spirit to regain the best form.

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December 23, 2023, 11:26:35 PM
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Barcelona current downfall cannot be separated from Messi departure, so far Messi has become the icon and soul of Barcelona game so that when Messi leaves, we can see that Barcelona performance continues to decline over time because the impact from Messi departure, apart that, of course financial is issues are the main problem for Barcelona is currently due to their carelessness when buying many players in the past, Barcelona current condition will makes slumped later on if their finances are still deteriorating..
Actually, Barcelona still has good players who have been brought in, but it seems there are other problems that make it difficult for Barcelona to win their matches. You have to remember that when Robert Lewandowski first entered Barcelona and gave his full contribution, he was able to give Barcelona a victory. However, currently there seems to be a serious problem that makes the attackers from Barcelona unable to work as a team properly.
I don't think Barcelona's current poor form has anything in correlation to the departure of Lionel Messi. There are footballers that are considered
today  as the legends of the game who spent many years playing for just one club and still left their former clubs even when no one expected them to leave. Lionel Messi saw that the management of Barcelona wasn't comfortable with the financial burden that comes with having a player of Lionel Messi's  standard and so decided to leave.

Barcelona have won the Spanish La Liga since Messi left the club so the current  situation at  the home of the reigning Spanish champions should be directed to the manager Xavi hernandez

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December 23, 2023, 11:29:49 PM
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I feel like their midfield is not that bad, but their defense definitely doesn't work. The crazier thing is that we are talking about a team that has decent defenders as well, not like they have bad defenders, they are quite good at what they do and talented players.

I think they should reconsider how the yare approaching the games, they are using their defenders for their passing abilities and put them at way too ahead, which opens up a lot of chances for counter attacking, which means you need VERY quick defenders. Barcelona doesn't deal with very quick defenders, remember all those old players like puyol and pique, they were not really quick, they knew how to position, and they knew how to tackle, but they are not doing that now, they are nearly at midfield every position.

But it is impossible to compare Barcelona from today with Barcelona when Puyol and Pique were still playing. Barcelona around 2010 was the craziest team there has ever been in my opinion. Every single position was willed with literally the best player there was for the particular position. No part of the team outweighed another part of the team. Everything was balanced and really every player had a 10/10 in passing and ball control. Barcelona today doesn't have that by any means. They are all good players, but back then it was a different level.
You're talking about Barcelona's peak times and I don't remember a better team from that period. Maybe with a few reinforcements they could have built the best team of the century. Barcelona is an important team and they need to get rid of these periods. They deserve to be better.

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