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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (23.8%)
Real Madrid - 82 (67.2%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 9 (7.4%)
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December 30, 2021, 11:18:53 PM
Last edit: December 31, 2021, 10:36:48 PM by LittleBitFunny
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Dembele refused to reduce wages made by Barcelona and forced Barcelona to have to release Dembele now, in addition Dembele, barcelon also to releasing Coutinho and Samuel Umititi who have high salaries, Barcelona had to do so that they could register Ferran Torres and Dani Alves to the La Liga authorities.
Yes. Barcelona failed to get an agreement for Dembele's contract extension, he seems to leave Barcelona in the next transfer window. Umititi, Coutinho, and even other players probably do the same way (not agree to reduce their salaries), they may ask to be released as well. I can understand why those players don't want to reduce their salaries, it will be used to buy new players. I think Barcelona is a little bit strange, why they force to buy new players if they have no money? Reducing current players' salaries isn't a wise way to gain money, it is not an acceptable way and seems not to respect the current players.

If Dembele, Umititie, and Coutinho leave the team, Barcelona will not suffer much.
You know, they did not play well in the Barcelona team. I have not seen their contribution to any achievement of the team. So, if they leave, Barcelona will be able to take in an experienced player. However, as Dembele and Coutinho are performing, they should have stayed in Barcelona to reduce their wages.

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December 30, 2021, 11:22:47 PM
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...Nobody is bigger than a club, thatd to say that, whosoever is feeling too big to reduce his/her salary he should be leg go off, simply showing no sign of loyal for the club.
Loyalty is a thing of the past for most of the current breed of athletes in all sports. Each club cannot force them to take a cut. Some players are willing to sacrifice while others are not since there are still other clubs with more cash willing to take them in. It's the reality today and we just have to respect that.
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December 30, 2021, 11:27:43 PM
Last edit: December 31, 2021, 12:41:57 AM by AndySt
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By the looks of it, Barcelona will want to start the new year with a winning streak, with them doing "better" or basically others doing worse, they are at a good advantageous spot right now. Not saying that sociedad will end up losing more and more, but there is a good possibility. I agree with D-law that betis may end up losing points as well, which means there is a realistic chance that Barcelona could be second in the league.
I know that most people may consider "so what?" on something like that in any other year but this year it is obvious that they are not doing something that is regular and this is why it is definitely a different situation to be in. I am hoping for the best, but some stuff will change in the league for sure. Imagine things shaking where Barcelona moves from mid table which was crazy enough to second place, that will cause a lot of trouble for other teams for sure.
Now it remains to find out what Barcelona's rivals and competitors think about this, because they, too, would not mind moving to second place or even first place Grin But speaking seriously, I am impressed that Barcelona is taking active actions to overcome the crisis, including in the transfer market, and if everything is done correctly, then such actions should lead to success. Another question is that no one guarantees this and Javi Hernandez has no similar experience of correcting the situation as a head coach and Barcelona is taking a huge risk to aggravate the already difficult financial situation. Talking about the fact that Barcelona, in case of failure, will be able to rectify this by arranging a sale of players should not cause unnecessary illusions, because everyone should perfectly remember the recent situation when the club could not sell its players at a good price for the sake of extending the contract with Messi.
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December 31, 2021, 12:03:14 AM
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If tomorrow Valencia can win the match against Espanyol, at least Valencia will move up to 4th place maybe it will only be entertainment for them at the end of the year. However, Espanyol's performance so far this season also looks quite good or at least can balance Valencia's gameplay for tomorrow's match. But even so, the record from Espanyol's away matches so far this season was not good enough and also, Valencia dominated head to head. That way, it looks like Valencia will be able to take advantage of the moment at the end of this year to get full points.

In head to head it is clear that currently valencia is superior to espanyol, from the 12 matches they played in the domestic league, valencia managed to win over espanyol as much as 10 wins and 2 draws, but if you look at the current competition in the standings, it's definitely a match will run quite fiercely, espanyol who is ranked 11th currently only has 5 points difference with valencia who is ranked 8th, and the match is an opportunity for espanyol to return to the middle table and the same time decided the bad record they always achieved when dealing with valencia.

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December 31, 2021, 03:47:52 AM
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Dembele refused to reduce wages made by Barcelona and forced Barcelona to have to release Dembele now, in addition Dembele, barcelon also to releasing Coutinho and Samuel Umititi who have high salaries, Barcelona had to do so that they could register Ferran Torres and Dani Alves to the La Liga authorities.
Yes. Barcelona failed to get an agreement for Dembele's contract extension, he seems to leave Barcelona in the next transfer window. Umititi, Coutinho, and even other players probably do the same way (not agree to reduce their salaries), they may ask to be released as well. I can understand why those players don't want to reduce their salaries, it will be used to buy new players. I think Barcelona is a little bit strange, why they force to buy new players if they have no money? Reducing current players' salaries isn't a wise way to gain money, it is not an acceptable way and seems not to respect the current players.

If Dembele, Umititie and Coutinho leave the team, Barcelona will not suffer much. They did not play well in the Barcelona team. I have not seen their contribution to any achievement of the team. So if they leave, Barcelona will be able to take in an experienced player. However, as Dembele and Coutinho are performing, they should have stayed in Barcelona to reduce their wages.
Except Dembele I think Samuel Umtiti and Coutinho are player less minutes getting in Barcelona few years ago and left team right now is the best way for them can get more minutes with other club and have chance get qualify to world cup for his country. Right now Dembele will not extended his contract with Barcelona and has chance to sell on January window transfer if Barcelona want to get much money becuase waiting next year Dembele will be free transfer player.

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December 31, 2021, 08:21:28 AM
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If tomorrow Valencia can win the match against Espanyol, at least Valencia will move up to 4th place maybe it will only be entertainment for them at the end of the year. However, Espanyol's performance so far this season also looks quite good or at least can balance Valencia's gameplay for tomorrow's match. But even so, the record from Espanyol's away matches so far this season was not good enough and also, Valencia dominated head to head. That way, it looks like Valencia will be able to take advantage of the moment at the end of this year to get full points.

In head to head it is clear that currently valencia is superior to espanyol, from the 12 matches they played in the domestic league, valencia managed to win over espanyol as much as 10 wins and 2 draws, but if you look at the current competition in the standings, it's definitely a match will run quite fiercely, espanyol who is ranked 11th currently only has 5 points difference with valencia who is ranked 8th, and the match is an opportunity for espanyol to return to the middle table and the same time decided the bad record they always achieved when dealing with valencia.
Maybe there is a slight error from the data you get because if I look at their 12 matches, from the records I get Valencia can only win 8 matches and 3 lose and 1 draw. Although indeed, Valencia still dominates but considering Espanyol is difficult to win when playing away against Valencia, then I personally really believe Valencia will be able to win today. The head to head factor is not in Espanyol's favor and also, so far this season Espanyol has been one of the worst teams when Espanyol play away, so I think that's enough for me to make a choice on today's bet for Valencia to win.

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December 31, 2021, 09:50:08 AM
Last edit: December 31, 2021, 07:38:01 PM by BALIK
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If tomorrow Valencia can win the match against Espanyol, at least Valencia will move up to 4th place maybe it will only be entertainment for them at the end of the year. However, Espanyol's performance so far this season also looks quite good or at least can balance Valencia's gameplay for tomorrow's match. But even so, the record from Espanyol's away matches so far this season was not good enough and also, Valencia dominated head to head. That way, it looks like Valencia will be able to take advantage of the moment at the end of this year to get full points.
In head to head it is clear that currently valencia is superior to espanyol, from the 12 matches they played in the domestic league, valencia managed to win over espanyol as much as 10 wins and 2 draws, but if you look at the current competition in the standings, it's definitely a match will run quite fiercely, espanyol who is ranked 11th currently only has 5 points difference with valencia who is ranked 8th, and the match is an opportunity for espanyol to return to the middle table and the same time decided the bad record they always achieved when dealing with valencia.
Maybe there is a slight error from the data you get because if I look at their 12 matches, from the records I get Valencia can only win 8 matches and 3 lose and 1 draw. Although indeed, Valencia still dominates but considering Espanyol is difficult to win when playing away against Valencia, then I personally really believe Valencia will be able to win today. The head to head factor is not in Espanyol's favor and also, so far this season Espanyol has been one of the worst teams when Espanyol play away, so I think that's enough for me to make a choice on today's bet for Valencia to win.

Valencia's performance is very stable compared to Espanyol. I know, Espanyol is a good team, But the truth is they are not able to maintain continuity. I've seen some matches, they are Losing one is winning the next match. This is how they are performing irregularly.
Valencia's performance, on the other hand, is relatively good enough. They have not lost in the last 9 matches. So I don't think they will lose today's match either.

Edit: Bad luck for Valencia, their first loss after 9 unbeaten match in a row Valencia 1 - 2 Espanyol

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December 31, 2021, 10:06:31 AM
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Dembele refused to reduce wages made by Barcelona and forced Barcelona to have to release Dembele now, in addition Dembele, barcelon also to releasing Coutinho and Samuel Umititi who have high salaries, Barcelona had to do so that they could register Ferran Torres and Dani Alves to the La Liga authorities.
Yes. Barcelona failed to get an agreement for Dembele's contract extension, he seems to leave Barcelona in the next transfer window. Umititi, Coutinho, and even other players probably do the same way (not agree to reduce their salaries), they may ask to be released as well. I can understand why those players don't want to reduce their salaries, it will be used to buy new players. I think Barcelona is a little bit strange, why they force to buy new players if they have no money? Reducing current players' salaries isn't a wise way to gain money, it is not an acceptable way and seems not to respect the current players.
If Dembele, Umititie and Coutinho leave the team, Barcelona will not suffer much. They did not play well in the Barcelona team. I have not seen their contribution to any achievement of the team. So if they leave, Barcelona will be able to take in an experienced player. However, as Dembele and Coutinho are performing, they should have stayed in Barcelona to reduce their wages.
Except Dembele I think Samuel Umtiti and Coutinho are player less minutes getting in Barcelona few years ago and left team right now is the best way for them can get more minutes with other club and have chance get qualify to world cup for his country. Right now Dembele will not extended his contract with Barcelona and has chance to sell on January window transfer if Barcelona want to get much money becuase waiting next year Dembele will be free transfer player.

Samuel Umtiti and Coutinho must be immediately sold by Barcelona, ​​besides their high salaries, Umtiti and Coutinho's contribution is far from expected.
Then regarding Ousmane Dembele, his performance is actually quite good at Barcelona, ​​but the problem is that Dembele is injured too often.
So it's detrimental to Barcelona, after all, Dembele's contract is ending soon and until now there has been no agreement regarding Dembele's
new contract with Barcelona management. Knowing Dembele's contract will run out, many big clubs are starting to tempt Dembele to leave Barcelona.
Quite a lot of media have reported that Juventus are in a leading position in the hunt for Dembele, according to rumors Juventus and Dembele have
reached a verbal agreement. It seems that with Barcelona's unsanitary financial condition, hard to convince Dembele to stay. So it is better for Dembele
to be sold in the January transfer window, rather than releasing him for free at the end of the season. If it's true that Umtiti, Coutinho and Dembele
can be sold by Barcelona, this could provide additional money for Barcelona to buy new players in the January transfer market.

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December 31, 2021, 10:08:45 AM
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By the looks of it, Barcelona will want to start the new year with a winning streak, with them doing "better" or basically others doing worse, they are at a good advantageous spot right now. Not saying that sociedad will end up losing more and more, but there is a good possibility. I agree with D-law that betis may end up losing points as well, which means there is a realistic chance that Barcelona could be second in the league.

I know that most people may consider "so what?" on something like that in any other year but this year it is obvious that they are not doing something that is regular and this is why it is definitely a different situation to be in. I am hoping for the best, but some stuff will change in the league for sure. Imagine things shaking where Barcelona moves from mid table which was crazy enough to second place, that will cause a lot of trouble for other teams for sure.

I think any club wants to start/continue the winning streak. The problem is that someone loses anyway. At the moment, I do not see any advantages for Barcelona that would allow it to start confidently beating everyone and fighting for second place. It is much more likely that Atletico Madrid will emerge from the crisis and soar to second place - they have a good lineup and the only thing they need is to simply get out of a bad streak.

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December 31, 2021, 12:29:39 PM
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I visited the la liga santander site and immediately noticed the video highlighting the young players of Barcelona. I don't know how you would call that but I see it as a PR thing for the club. Don't get me wrong. It's not really a bad thing to help promote the next generation and keep fans excited or hopeful for the future despite news of big players leaving.
promoting academy players and providing opportunities for young players to enter the main squad, is indeed the best step for xavi as a coach, but in my opinion barcelona should also buy experienced players, senior players who have been in the league for a long time, to increase the mentality of the team, all young teams can learn from their seniors, to be able to train their mentality, because playing in a big club we have to prepare great skills and a strong mentality..

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December 31, 2021, 12:45:23 PM
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I visited the la liga santander site and immediately noticed the video highlighting the young players of Barcelona. I don't know how you would call that but I see it as a PR thing for the club. Don't get me wrong. It's not really a bad thing to help promote the next generation and keep fans excited or hopeful for the future despite news of big players leaving.
promoting academy players and providing opportunities for young players to enter the main squad, is indeed the best step for xavi as a coach, but in my opinion barcelona should also buy experienced players, senior players who have been in the league for a long time, to increase the mentality of the team, all young teams can learn from their seniors, to be able to train their mentality, because playing in a big club we have to prepare great skills and a strong mentality..

@asus09, I totally agree with you. A legend like Xavi is needed to experience young players to train properly. At the same time, an experienced player is needed from whom they can learn during the match.
Barcelona left Messi without getting a replacement, the team is looking like a lion without mane. It was not Messi's fault it is Barcelona's fault. Whatever happened, Now they should look for at least one experienced striker in the forward, otherwise I can't see any future of them.

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December 31, 2021, 01:36:30 PM
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I visited the la liga santander site and immediately noticed the video highlighting the young players of Barcelona. I don't know how you would call that but I see it as a PR thing for the club. Don't get me wrong. It's not really a bad thing to help promote the next generation and keep fans excited or hopeful for the future despite news of big players leaving.
promoting academy players and providing opportunities for young players to enter the main squad, is indeed the best step for xavi as a coach, but in my opinion barcelona should also buy experienced players, senior players who have been in the league for a long time, to increase the mentality of the team, all young teams can learn from their seniors, to be able to train their mentality, because playing in a big club we have to prepare great skills and a strong mentality..

I totally agree with you. A legend like Xavi is needed to experience young players. At the same time an experienced player is needed from whom they can learn during the match. Barcelona left Messi without getting a replacement. It was their fault. Now they should look for at least one experienced striker in the forward.
Right now xavi has a pretty tough job to get barcelona back on track like it used to be, and i think xavi now will try to optimize the existing young players even though combining it with some senior players, the limited funds available in my opinion will be more burdensome xavi to bring in senior other players, especially those who play as strikers at this time and I think it's better for Xavi to try to orbit some players who are in Barcelona B into the main squad, apart from not requiring big money of course Xavi will not be too difficult to make them adapt with Barcelona current style of play.

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December 31, 2021, 01:39:54 PM
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I totally agree with you. A legend like Xavi is needed to experience young players. At the same time an experienced player is needed from whom they can learn during the match. Barcelona left Messi without getting a replacement. It was their fault. Now they should look for at least one experienced striker in the forward.

The realisation is quite difficult with the circumstances of Barcelona for now. They had financial difficulties, even they made the wrong decision in Koeman's time. Xavi came in the hope that there would be improvement, but it seems difficult if they don't add some players (as you said). Unsusanable situations, perhaps management should immediately try to find new investors to improve their current circumstances.

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December 31, 2021, 02:05:01 PM
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I totally agree with you. A legend like Xavi is needed to experience young players. At the same time an experienced player is needed from whom they can learn during the match. Barcelona left Messi without getting a replacement. It was their fault. Now they should look for at least one experienced striker in the forward.
Xavi is a legendary player but it does not mean that he will be able to share his experience and skills he has to young players. Also, it is different and not automatically mean he can become a good coach. Teaching, training is hard but managing players and other things in a club as a coach is harder.

I wish Xavi the best and wish he will success with his mission but it is uncertain in my opinion. I wish young players in Barcelona can learn many valuable things from Xavi.

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December 31, 2021, 02:10:47 PM
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One hour before the start of the match Valencia - Espanyol. A good option for a little distraction from the festive hassle  Grin
Valencia is the favorite in this pair and plays at home, so the odds are heavily biased in its favor:

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However, I do not know how serious this match will be in the circumstances of the holiday and how reasonable it is to place bets here. Likely betting that Valencia will score is safe?

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December 31, 2021, 02:51:38 PM
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Atletico Madrid is currently in a very serious problem. After experiencing 4 consecutive defeats in La-Liga, in tomorrow's match against Rayo, Atletico must rest 4 players, such as Griezmann, Koke, Hererra and Joao Felix who tested positive for COVID. I haven't found any information whether Atletico will postpone this match or not. If it could be postponed, it would certainly be a better opportunity for them.

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December 31, 2021, 03:01:35 PM
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One hour before the start of the match Valencia - Espanyol. A good option for a little distraction from the festive hassle  Grin
Valencia is the favorite in this pair and plays at home, so the odds are heavily biased in its favor:

1.82 - 3.75 - 4.5

However, I do not know how serious this match will be in the circumstances of the holiday and how reasonable it is to place bets here. Likely betting that Valencia will score is safe?

Valencia comes from two draws and three wins in their last 5 consecutive games while Espanyol have some wins and some lost games.I think Valencia since it is playing at the home field it should be safe enough to bet on them for a win but in gambling everything can happen,there are just no safe bets even with 1.10 odds sometimes those strong teams with that odd lose their game.

As for the title fight here I think it is already over with Real Madrid being already 8 points away at such phase says a lot about how it is going to end.

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December 31, 2021, 03:10:51 PM
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Atletico Madrid is currently in a very serious problem. After experiencing 4 consecutive defeats in La-Liga, in tomorrow's match against Rayo, Atletico must rest 4 players, such as Griezmann, Koke, Hererra and Joao Felix who tested positive for COVID. I haven't found any information whether Atletico will postpone this match or not. If it could be postponed, it would certainly be a better opportunity for them.

Atletico Madrid performance towards the end of 2021 was indeed quite bad, not only in the league but also in the Champions League and fortunately they were able to qualify for the round of 16, Rayo who are currently quite consistent are certainly not an easy opponent for Atletico madrid with current conditions, but not only Athletico madrid lost players due to Covid, Rayo also experienced the same thing, namely 17 of their main players tested positive for Covid-19 after carrying out a PCR test and the club management had actually asked the La Liga board for postpone the match against Atlético madrid, but so far no decision has been made uncertain whether the match was postponed or not.

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December 31, 2021, 03:12:50 PM
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Atletico Madrid is currently in a very serious problem. After experiencing 4 consecutive defeats in La-Liga, in tomorrow's match against Rayo, Atletico must rest 4 players, such as Griezmann, Koke, Hererra and Joao Felix who tested positive for COVID. I haven't found any information whether Atletico will postpone this match or not. If it could be postponed, it would certainly be a better opportunity for them.
Athletico Madrid lost form and they've been unable to win matches recently,losing four matches.
And with the way things are going,there is every possibility that they will still lose this one especially now that majority of their first team players are being affected by corona virus.
I don't really see Athletico surviving this one,and the only way out is when the game will be postponed as mentioned above.
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December 31, 2021, 03:27:49 PM
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Atletico Madrid is currently in a very serious problem. After experiencing 4 consecutive defeats in La-Liga, in tomorrow's match against Rayo, Atletico must rest 4 players, such as Griezmann, Koke, Hererra and Joao Felix who tested positive for COVID. I haven't found any information whether Atletico will postpone this match or not. If it could be postponed, it would certainly be a better opportunity for them.
There hasn't been any news regarding the cancellation problem in their match but I heard that Diego Simeone is also infected covid-19 ,I think there seems to be a cancellation this match because the coach himself also contracted the disease of covid ! they will fail to defend title La Liga if they continue to be a bad performance by health problems

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