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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (23.6%)
Real Madrid - 83 (67.5%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 9 (7.3%)
Total Voters: 123

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June 29, 2022, 09:39:14 PM
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It seems like the Frenkie de Jong deal is nearly ending for Manchester United but in a positive way I mean. Barcelona seem willing to say okay to a total sum of 85 million euros for Frenkie de Jong now. 20 million of this sum is going to be add-ons which I find quite big honestly.
€85 million is a big amount of money, Barcelona really wants to get a huge advantage by selling Frenkie de Jong. We know the reason is they need big money to accommodate enough funds for their targets in this transfer window. Since Man United is really serious to get Frenkie, Barcelona becomes more confident to set a high price for Frenkie's transfer fees. I think Man United did a bad strategy to get this player. Man United should target another top midfielder with the same position as Frenkie to weaken Barcelona stance.


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June 29, 2022, 09:46:19 PM
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Its a good deal for both parties involved. Barcelona get cash and free their wage bill by selling De Jong. Manchester United get their man, pay in 4 years installment, replace Paul Pogba with ease and prepare for the new season with their new manager. Also, Barcelona is reported approaching Leeds to hijack Raphinha deal from the clutches of Chelsea and Arsenal. The deal should wrap up this weekend
In this case, it seems that DeJong is only a matter of time now. But when he says Rapinha isn't he a Chelsea player now?
For Manchester United maybe they want to finalize any kind of deal now considering they also have a lot of players to look for now and De Jong is one of them they are targeting when they are done with De Jong then they will look for another in the deal.

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June 29, 2022, 10:15:12 PM
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What seems like a joke is not in the desire to sign Lewandowski in my opinion, but in the negotiation process with Manchester United who want Frenkie De Jong who has not got a deal to date. I think this is the reason Barcelona have not agreed with Manchester United's offer and asked for a higher price to get De Jong.

Barcelona must release a player who has an important role in the team to be able to get funds and the sale of Frenkie De Jong could be a solution to get Lewandowski.
Does it worth it though? Would you prefer to have De Jong who is a young star player, or would you prefer to have Lewandowski who is arguably better of course but at the same time he is very old. I mean if we are talking about it financially then I would keep De Jong instead because he could worth a lot more in the future.

I would rather have Frenkie De Jong retained than going all out for Lewandowski to be honest, Barcelona didn't just pay as much as they just last season for Ferran Torres just have him probably become the second option upfront, Maybe not as effective as Lewandowski would be but Barcelona have multiple players that can fill up the centre forward position, while not too many options that are as dynamic as De Jong that can play in several position in the midfield, and is still pretty much a very young player, regardless of what they get in profit as difference from what they paid for him initially it's still going to be a loss for Barcelona imho.

Xavi Hernandez mist have been in contact with the Polish International, speculations wouldn't have gone round if he  wasn't needed by Barcelona. But if he Xavi Hernandez really wants Lewandoski then the deal will be done in little or no time.
Yeah they have players who can feel that space up, but who the coach wants matters,and Lewandoski should, all you have to do is create good chances for him and boom, that's the goal. Memphis Depay should leave coz I doubt if he will get enough game time next season.
He was only brought in by Koeman all because he was he's in the squad he managed during he's stay as head Coach of the Dutch side.

Frank Kessie should be available for Barcelona next season, still on the look out for who replaces Frankie De Jong since contract terms been agreed already by  Manchester United and Barcelona.

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June 29, 2022, 10:24:36 PM
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It seems like the Frenkie de Jong deal is nearly ending for Manchester United but in a positive way I mean. Barcelona seem willing to say okay to a total sum of 85 million euros for Frenkie de Jong now. 20 million of this sum is going to be add-ons which I find quite big honestly.
€85 million is a big amount of money, Barcelona really wants to get a huge advantage by selling Frenkie de Jong. We know the reason is they need big money to accommodate enough funds for their targets in this transfer window. Since Man United is really serious to get Frenkie, Barcelona becomes more confident to set a high price for Frenkie's transfer fees. I think Man United did a bad strategy to get this player. Man United should target another top midfielder with the same position as Frenkie to weaken Barcelona stance.


Manchester United are really in a haste to secure frenkie dejong deal, perhaps Barcelona really want a huge amount of money before the deal can be finalized. Perhaps Barcelona really pledge alot of money on this player, as in 85 million euros is too expensive for a player like dejong. And it seems Barcelona are not thinking to lower the price, cause they really needs the money to settle their financial challenges, cause selling him at that rate will help boost the team income. Right now Manchester United are very serious on getting dejong before going for any other players, but with the price stated on this player , I think Manchester United should look for other top midfielder's that can handle that position.

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June 29, 2022, 10:36:50 PM
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Real Madrid also are in the race to sign Jude Bellingham now together with Liverpool and Manchester United. Dortmund are considering to accept only offers which are at least 120 million euros seemingly. Jude Bellingham is a wonderful young talent now certainly and Dortmund don't want to lose him at the same time with Haaland. Among the contenders to sign him, I think Real Madrid would be one step ahead. Real Madrid are trying their best to strengthen their midfield and a possible Bellingham transfer would be awesome for them. But I wonder if they'd like to pay this much.

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June 29, 2022, 11:23:59 PM
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Robert Lewandowski is not a bad player. I was also a little amazed to see his interest to play for Barcelona. But after all, it comes down to only one thing. Barcelona should not pay anything close to 50 million for a player who is aged. If this was the Barcelona of five or six years ago I think this would not have been a problem. But now if this transfer does not work it is going to be a very big problem for Barcelona. Bayern Munich is obviously going to bait Barcelona into spending more money for these players but Barcelona really should not get baited.
Barcelona will do everything possible to land Lewandowski this summer. Barcelona need Lewandowski or a lone striker to start next season, Xavi is even very optimistic that Barcelona can get the Bayern superstar signature in this transfer window. Several attempts have been made in this signing, one of which was Barcelona increasing the budget clause to convince Bayern Munich to accept their proposal. Lewandowski is only under contract for one more season with Bayern Munich, if Bayern do not want to accept Barcelona offer of course Bayern Munich will release Lewandowski for free next season.
When looking at the current progress, it is true that Barcelona can still be confident in getting Xavi's signature, moreover they already seem to have a special closeness where when Lewandowski said he wanted to be at Barcelona for next season this clearly added to his confidence.
On the other hand now they are also almost done with De Jong and will get fresh money from the sale of De Jong so indeed it will be more possible for them to bring Lewandowski from Bayern.

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June 29, 2022, 11:49:26 PM
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It's not worth paying 40 million for a player who is already 34 if the player is not Lewandowski. Why? because behind Lewandowski's 40 million price, there are other goals that can give Barcelona profits, in my opinion, such as selling jerseys and other merchandise.

It is impossible for Luis Suarez to return to Barcelona because the basis of Suarez's sale to Atletico Madrid is because he is no longer young and Barcelona needs younger players because of Barca's busy schedule. I think you still remember the reason why Barcelona officials let Luis Suarez off a few years ago.

I also agree that Barcelona needs young players to get ready for the future but I don’t think buying Robert Lewandowski is a good decision because he is also not young either. If he was 27 or even 30 years old, paying close to 50 million would have made a lot more sense to me but now it doesn’t really make any sense. For 50 million I think Barcelona will be able to find younger players. And they will be able to give their service for a longer time to Barcelona than Lewandowski. But I have to agree that the play style of Robert Lewandowski is going to help Barcelona a lot.

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June 29, 2022, 11:55:56 PM
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The Frenkie de Jong deal between Barcelona and Manchester United could be completed soon. Because Manchester United have made an offer worth 85 million euros bonuses included and Barcelona seem to be okay for that. This would make things more difficult for Barcelona as they will need to sign an extra player also. Otherwise their midfield would stay weaker. Maybe they still have many midfielders but Frenkie de Jong is a regular player in the starting eleven and his performance has been good too.

You just said Barcelona need extra players, Otherwise their midfield will remain weak. Frenkie de Jong is in the midfield position, losing de jong will only burden the barcelona midfield. And barcelona has a shortage of players, not a surplus of players, right. 85 million euros will not be enough, because barcelona signed de jong with 75 million euros from ajax, plus manchester united also have to take over or replace Frenkie de Jong's two season contract remaining at barcelona, so i think barcelona have not agreed on that value.
I don't think so, they still have at least some pretty good midfielders there although losing De Jong would be difficult to replace but there are still some other talented young players like Pedri, Gavi or maybe even Puig there.
They are young players who are quite promising at the moment and this could be an option for them to navigate next season.
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June 29, 2022, 11:59:14 PM
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I also agree that Barcelona needs young players to get ready for the future but I don’t think buying Robert Lewandowski is a good decision because he is also not young either. If he was 27 or even 30 years old, paying close to 50 million would have made a lot more sense to me but now it doesn’t really make any sense. For 50 million I think Barcelona will be able to find younger players. And they will be able to give their service for a longer time to Barcelona than Lewandowski. But I have to agree that the play style of Robert Lewandowski is going to help Barcelona a lot.
Barcelona wants Lewandowski to bring a big impact immediately on Barcelona performance. If they buy a young player, it may be difficult to give an instant impact. While if they expect to buy a top young striker like Mbappe or Haaland, it is very difficult. Besides their prices being too expensive, Barcelona must compete with many big teams in the world. So, the chance to sign the player is too small. A possible option is by signing an old star player like Lewandowski.

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Benzema's wonderful season started to make me think like whether he will be the winner of Ballon d'Or also. I don't think that I'm exaggerating this too because Benzema was definitely one of the most impressive players in the world. In addition to his successes with Real Madrid in one season, his performance about scoring goals and making assists both was incredible. I don't think that either Messi or Ronaldo will manage to win it this time. I would put Benzema to the top and Lewandowski to the second place for Ballon d'Or considering last season.
Based on what Benzema displayed in some matches showed that he is among the best strikers in the whole world. Benzema really helped Real Madrid to performed well, because he used all his strategies to achieved many goals from many competition which Messi and Ronaldo couldn't achieve for their teams. I think, it will be difficult for Messi and Ronaldo to win it this time because Benzema is fully ready to use the same strategies to win it again to alert the world that he remain the world best striker.

Benzema had one of the best seasons of his life in the last season in La Liga. his performance was really great and it is going to be a big understatement to say that he helped Real Madrid win a lot of matches. He also helped Real Madrid get out of some very sticky situations. he also got some late winners in the Champions League for Real Madrid to move forward in the competition. I believe this time neither Messi nor Ronaldo is going to be the winner of the Ballon d'Or.  If there was anyone deserving of it this time it is going to be Benzema.

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June 30, 2022, 12:31:01 AM
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I also agree that Barcelona needs young players to get ready for the future but I don’t think buying Robert Lewandowski is a good decision because he is also not young either. If he was 27 or even 30 years old, paying close to 50 million would have made a lot more sense to me but now it doesn’t really make any sense. For 50 million I think Barcelona will be able to find younger players. And they will be able to give their service for a longer time to Barcelona than Lewandowski. But I have to agree that the play style of Robert Lewandowski is going to help Barcelona a lot.
Barcelona wants Lewandowski to bring a big impact immediately on Barcelona performance. If they buy a young player, it may be difficult to give an instant impact. While if they expect to buy a top young striker like Mbappe or Haaland, it is very difficult. Besides their prices being too expensive, Barcelona must compete with many big teams in the world. So, the chance to sign the player is too small. A possible option is by signing an old star player like Lewandowski.


It's true what you say, maybe this is just a first step to stabilize their game first before they get ready for something they prepare for the future. It's a good move in my opinion when they want to do that, because if they don't improve the existing squad first, it will be more risky if they put young players in.

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June 30, 2022, 01:01:10 AM
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This is a dilemma for Barcelona in my opinion, because on the other hand they need money by selling their players, on the other hand they will lose one of their players who I think contributed to them. But if Frenkie De Jong didn't get into Xavi's scheme of play I think they would really sell him. But who will they bring in to replace De Jong's departure?

Barcelona's plan to sell Frenkie de Jong to get some money and look for new players who are cheaper for the midfield position. Bernardo Silva from Manchester City is Xavi target, he really likes Silva style of play. Xavi is really in a dilemma with this condition, on the one hand Barcelona need money from the sale of De Jong, on the other hand Xavi is afraid after De Jong left that he cannot sign Bernardo Silva.
Xavi must be careful with the decisions that will be taken, if Barcelona go the wrong way, they will find it difficult to compete with other clubs in the fight for the title.

It looks like this will indeed be a deal for Barcelona and Manchester United now regarding De Jong and it looks like Barcelona have made a choice for it, Now the transfer process is nearing the end and they prefer to sell De Jong to make their finances better.
As for Silva, I just heard about this but I doubt it will work because Silva's role at City is also quite good and Pep seems to still be using Silva for his plans next season.

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June 30, 2022, 01:36:32 AM
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However, this is the right moment for Barcelona to continue to offer prices to Bayern Munich, because Lewandowski himself wants to leave Bayern Munich because his salary is not increased. Therefore, with Lewandowski himself stating that he wants to play for Barcelona next season, then of course Barcelona will continue to do their best to recruit Lewandowski. With fresh funds that will be obtained from the transfer of Frenkie De Jong to Manchester United with cash funds of around 65 million Euros, then of course this value is sufficient to pay Bayern Munich the desired value of 50 million Euros.
I read today that Barcelona have already made a third offer for Lewandowski, this time they offered a price of 40 million euro and a bonus of 5 million for player. while Bayern are ready to let Lewandowski go for a price of 50 million euros, it can be assumed that this transfer can still take place. It was also mentioned that Lewandowski himself wants to move to Barcelona, and is even ready to boycott Bayern if they do not want to let him go.
Lewandowski transfer saga continues to be a matter of speculation and there continues to be tug-of-war between Barcelona and Bayern Munich, Barcelona have now indeed made their third bid with a larger nominal because they are very confident that if a deal of De Jong will happen soon with manchester, Lewandowski desire to leave should be respected by bayern munchen because so far Lewandowski services to bayern munchen have been very big, I think barcelona will be the right team for him to continue his career before he retires.

Bayern Munich is just trying to milk some money from Barcelona because they know Barcelona is very desperate for this player and this player is also going to be very important for the future success of Barcelona. but if Barcelona wants to get this player they will have to get him for a short period of time because he is not going to be able to give his service for a long time in any club right now. and there is no point giving 50 million away for a player like that in my opinion.  there is no doubt that he can perform really well but if he does not Barcelona is going to be in really big trouble.

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June 30, 2022, 03:22:47 AM
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Bayern Munich is just trying to milk some money from Barcelona because they know Barcelona is very desperate for this player and this player is also going to be very important for the future success of Barcelona. but if Barcelona wants to get this player they will have to get him for a short period of time because he is not going to be able to give his service for a long time in any club right now. and there is no point giving 50 million away for a player like that in my opinion.  there is no doubt that he can perform really well but if he does not Barcelona is going to be in really big trouble.
Yes, Barcelona want Lewandowski because they expect him to boost the team's game in their attack. If they manage to get Lewandowski but what they hope doesn't happen it will be a problem for them too. On the other hand, in my opinion, an experienced player like Lewandowski will slightly reduce the risk of him playing not as expected, rather than having to recruit young players.

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June 30, 2022, 03:52:41 AM
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Yes, Barcelona want Lewandowski because they expect him to boost the team's game in their attack. If they manage to get Lewandowski but what they hope doesn't happen it will be a problem for them too. On the other hand, in my opinion, an experienced player like Lewandowski will slightly reduce the risk of him playing not as expected, rather than having to recruit young players.

I think the news about Lewandowski is over because there was no final decision on these negotiations until today, and barcelona have get Aubameyang, he is also Lewandowski's former rival in the bundesliga. I believe Aubameyang can be relied on in managing Barcelona's front line and help Barcelona next season. The combination of Memphis Depay with Aubameyang can be a solid team to face Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid who will be Barcelona's toughest enemies next season.

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June 30, 2022, 04:27:30 AM
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It seems like the Frenkie de Jong deal is nearly ending for Manchester United but in a positive way I mean. Barcelona seem willing to say okay to a total sum of 85 million euros for Frenkie de Jong now. 20 million of this sum is going to be add-ons which I find quite big honestly. But as Barcelona need money desperately they still accept the offer. Manchester United are trying to convince de Jong too now. Erik ten Hag might be really helpful for this because they worked with each other at Ajax before.

I think, Manchester united don't want to miss this la Liga league title next season because their managements are very ready to use any amount of money to get a potential players that will help the team to perform well in next season. Frenkie de Jong is a good player that has a good record from his formal team that will make Manchester united to do everything within their power to get him into the team so that they will expect something good from his performance next season. I guess Barcelona managements are looking for a huge amount of money to get talented new players that will help the team to rise again because since Messi left the team, it hard the team to perform well.

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June 30, 2022, 06:07:37 AM
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By the way, the other day even Koeman said that Barcelona lives in the past and the Tiki-Taka strategy is outdated. But as you know, Xavi is not going to give it up.
No, tiki taka is a lot of fun. I really like that, although I understand today football is the end result. I think there is no end to tiki taka, they just need to add variety to dismantle the bus parking and add defenders who are still young so they can kill counter attacks. I think they are still good enough for next season. They are not finished, they have the same chances as other clubs because Xavi came.
I am no longer a fan of tiki taka,  and I agree with Koeman that Barcelona lives in the past. There is no type of football than what Real Madrid and the likes of Liverpool play. Pass the ball forward to your opponent's half and get the goal.
Arsenal was busy with the tiki taka style, before they knew it  they lost both the tiki and the taka.
I know that it's the type of football that Xavi loves and understands, but he should also find alternative.
I even prefer samba football to tiki taka.

I know that the Tika Taka style is a little outdated and right now Football is all about space and pace. One player needs to run beside the defenders and another needs to play through a pass.

The current philosophy of players seems to be, “""why to run at the defenders with the ball? try to show your skills when you can just run beside them without the ball and wait for another person to pass it.”"" and that is really working for a lot of teams right now. I don't know if Xavi is going to adopt that style of football but that seems to be the most effective right now.

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June 30, 2022, 06:49:54 AM
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Real Madrid also are in the race to sign Jude Bellingham now together with Liverpool and Manchester United. Dortmund are considering to accept only offers which are at least 120 million euros seemingly. Jude Bellingham is a wonderful young talent now certainly and Dortmund don't want to lose him at the same time with Haaland. Among the contenders to sign him, I think Real Madrid would be one step ahead. Real Madrid are trying their best to strengthen their midfield and a possible Bellingham transfer would be awesome for them. But I wonder if they'd like to pay this much.
Real Madrid is regenerating for the midfield position that's why they buy Tchouameni and they had ambition to get several talented players in that position too besides him and Bellingham including to the criteria desired by Madrid that's why Madrid want to buy him although the price will be so expensive but regarding Liverpool seems they will not make Bellingham as their main target again especially Liverpool already spend money to buy players and one of their expensive players is Nunez so for Bellingham i think Madrid in the front line to get him and 120 millions euro isn't big problem for them because Madrid is rich team

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June 30, 2022, 06:57:38 AM
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Bayern Munich is just trying to milk some money from Barcelona because they know Barcelona is very desperate for this player and this player is also going to be very important for the future success of Barcelona. but if Barcelona wants to get this player they will have to get him for a short period of time because he is not going to be able to give his service for a long time in any club right now. and there is no point giving 50 million away for a player like that in my opinion.  there is no doubt that he can perform really well but if he does not Barcelona is going to be in really big trouble.
Yes, Barcelona want Lewandowski because they expect him to boost the team's game in their attack. If they manage to get Lewandowski but what they hope doesn't happen it will be a problem for them too. On the other hand, in my opinion, an experienced player like Lewandowski will slightly reduce the risk of him playing not as expected, rather than having to recruit young players.

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I did not know this player, thanks to you I am informed
I must say that he is very strong even though he is now an age
it always depends on how much it costs, remember an experienced player teaches tricks to younger players and makes them gain experience
I wouldn't throw him away, of course if he costs too much .. it doesn't make sense

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June 30, 2022, 06:58:40 AM
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It seems like the Frenkie de Jong deal is nearly ending for Manchester United but in a positive way I mean. Barcelona seem willing to say okay to a total sum of 85 million euros for Frenkie de Jong now. 20 million of this sum is going to be add-ons which I find quite big honestly. But as Barcelona need money desperately they still accept the offer. Manchester United are trying to convince de Jong too now. Erik ten Hag might be really helpful for this because they worked with each other at Ajax before.

I think, Manchester united don't want to miss this la Liga league title next season because their managements are very ready to use any amount of money to get a potential players that will help the team to perform well in next season. Frenkie de Jong is a good player that has a good record from his formal team that will make Manchester united to do everything within their power to get him into the team so that they will expect something good from his performance next season. I guess Barcelona managements are looking for a huge amount of money to get talented new players that will help the team to rise again because since Messi left the team, it hard the team to perform well.
Frenkie de Jong is Erik ten Hag's preferred player, because the two have worked together before, I think that way it won't be difficult for De Jong to adapt, this would be a very good signing.
as for Barcelona, they really need money, especially to be able to bring in Lewandowski from Bayern, every effort has been made by Barcelona to overhaul their squad to welcome next season, although it is a pity that they have to let go of their important pillar but I believe in the scheme and squad they want to replace. have Xavi as Barcelona coach.

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