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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24%)
Real Madrid - 82 (67.8%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.6%)
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July 14, 2022, 01:59:06 PM
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Barcelona have solved their problem on their right wing. They have signed Dembele and Raphinha both officially. They are waiting for the result of the talks for Frenkie de Jong also. If Manchester United end this deal for the benefit of them then Barcelona will have to find someone to bring into the midfield. Barcelona must be doing their best to keep him at the club and the player doesn't have a big intention to leave too. Manchester United's job is really difficult as a result.
Honestly, I actually agree more if they keep Frankie de Jong, because earlier if they sold him it would create a new gap in their squad. There is still time for them to consider the departure of Frankie de Jong, if they realize that I think they will do the best thing by turning down offers for their midfield player.

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July 14, 2022, 02:20:56 PM
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How high performance can a football player who does not want to stay in the team play? Lewandowski says he is unhappy right now and has wanted to leave for a long time. The team, on the other hand, is very tough on this issue and wants a very high amount of money. They know that other teams will not give it.
I think Bayern is hurting themselves that way. It would make more sense for them to sell while the player's value is still high

Even though Lewandowski has insisted on his desire to move it has not changed Munich to keep him with a year remaining on his contract. I think you are right, Lewandowski's value is still very high considering his current age but Bayern Munich are still adamant about holding him until a price is agreed. I don't know if this is their marketing strategy or if munich prioritizes their services for the team. Barcelona have made a lot of effort to bring in Lowandwoski despite having to sell 10% of their media rights.

I don't understand why Bayern keep a player they don't want anymore in the team, let alone Lewandowski is 33 years old and with 1 year remaining on his contract but they still maintain a high price for the player.
This is not very good for Bayern, because if they keep him there is no guarantee that Lewandowski will play with all his heart and can contribute much for them.
on the other hand Barcelona continue to target other strikers as if it was a sign that Barcelona are no longer chasing Lewandowski. we can only wait until the end of the transfer window.
And as a Barcelona fan I really hope that Robert Lewandowski can play for Barcelona for the rest of his career. That's great for Barcelona's front line.

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July 14, 2022, 02:33:20 PM
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I haven't seen dembele's official status, did I miss it?
And regarding the possible departure of Frenkie de Jong, I think it has been prepared because they have bring Franck Kessie from Milan on a free transfer. The defense line is also ready, Andreas Christensen was brought in from Chelsea on a free transfer as well. As far as I'm concerned they only spent money on Raphinha, that means there's still a chance that Barcelona will chase the new player this season.
Dembele will stay at Barcelona and he has agreed to a pay cut. I do not know why he decided to stay, perhaps the reason is that the club owes him a large amount of money and they promised to close this debt. I also read that because of Barcelona's debt to him, he cannot leave the club, I don't know all the intricacies of this situation, but I think that this could somehow affect the fact that he remained in the team.

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July 14, 2022, 03:17:05 PM
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I haven't seen dembele's official status, did I miss it?
And regarding the possible departure of Frenkie de Jong, I think it has been prepared because they have bring Franck Kessie from Milan on a free transfer. The defense line is also ready, Andreas Christensen was brought in from Chelsea on a free transfer as well. As far as I'm concerned they only spent money on Raphinha, that means there's still a chance that Barcelona will chase the new player this season.
Dembele will stay at Barcelona and he has agreed to a pay cut. I do not know why he decided to stay, perhaps the reason is that the club owes him a large amount of money and they promised to close this debt. I also read that because of Barcelona's debt to him, he cannot leave the club, I don't know all the intricacies of this situation, but I think that this could somehow affect the fact that he remained in the team.
not only that factor but because Barcelona coach Xavi has said that Dembele will be an important player for them and thus it is not impossible that Dembele wants to stay for a better career even though his salary will be cut. I think it's the right choice that Dembele has made, at Barcelona Dembele's career is very possible to continue to improve even though now Barcelona has made a big improvement to be better next season.

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July 14, 2022, 03:39:24 PM
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I see that Barcelona president Laporta has already made a statement about the Frenkie de Jong topic. He says that they don't intend to sell him now and he is happy there also. Barcelona seem very determined to keep him but it looks like there are some issues with his salary now. In this financial condition their job might be a little difficult but they should do their best not to lose strength in the end. There are so many news all around like he will still leave but it depends on how Barcelona will act as of now.

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It seems to me that De Jong will be a complete idiot if he stays in Barcelona. Firstly, in Barcelona they offer him a ridiculous salary. Secondly, Barcelona's crisis is far from over and what's the point of wasting your golden years on this club? At United, he will have a better chance of showing himself and continuing to grow as a pro. Given that Barcelona have already considered selling him purely for financial reasons, I would not say that the club treats him with respect and counts on him in the long term.
You're right, it's best for him and also for Barcelona. De Jong was better off getting a chance to make money in his youth and by joining to Manchester United he will earn a very well deserved advantage . It's okay for a player to have a dream of playing in a dream club, but money for old age is the most important thing and also in the Premier League he can often meet other great players it will give him more experience while improving performance.
What happens is that those from Barcelona are fighting for the good players without regard to age, the team cannot come down and they cannot allow it, I think that as De Jong this is the biggest growth opportunity he has for now, He could also shine for another team, what he needs is for him to perform better, for the whole team to help him, I think this is what he needs so that he can make a better contribution to the team, if Xavi knows how to handle it. it could bring him good things, otherwise the player himself will look for a way to leave, and at this point the club is not the one who decides, it is practically the players.

I haven't seen dembele's official status, did I miss it?
And regarding the possible departure of Frenkie de Jong, I think it has been prepared because they have bring Franck Kessie from Milan on a free transfer. The defense line is also ready, Andreas Christensen was brought in from Chelsea on a free transfer as well. As far as I'm concerned they only spent money on Raphinha, that means there's still a chance that Barcelona will chase the new player this season.
Dembele will stay at Barcelona and he has agreed to a pay cut. I do not know why he decided to stay, perhaps the reason is that the club owes him a large amount of money and they promised to close this debt. I also read that because of Barcelona's debt to him, he cannot leave the club, I don't know all the intricacies of this situation, but I think that this could somehow affect the fact that he remained in the team.
not only that factor but because Barcelona coach Xavi has said that Dembele will be an important player for them and thus it is not impossible that Dembele wants to stay for a better career even though his salary will be cut. I think it's the right choice that Dembele has made, at Barcelona Dembele's career is very possible to continue to improve even though now Barcelona has made a big improvement to be better next season.

I don't know if thinking of staying at a club despite the fact that his salary is lowered is something very profitable, encouraging or even better, honestly he as a player should be valued much more, Démbele is a good player, but nothing more when we look at the case Messi, which, gave many championships to Barcelona, then he himself did not care if he stayed despite a low salary and Barcelona got rid of him, at this point I think that every professional should value himself and not give away his work, Of course it is my personal opinion, because I think that at this point nobody is essential, and I believe that Dembelé, just like any other player, is not.

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July 14, 2022, 04:06:44 PM
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So Dembele stays, Raphinha is announced, Barca is making moves. 65 million Euro seems a lot for him, hopefully he won't get crushed under the weight of this transfer fee. Raphinha played well in Leeds so he can play well in another competitive league as well. If he can adopt new country fast I don't think he will have much difficulty in the league.
A healthy Dembele could also play like a new transfer but if we see him same as his previous performance again that wouldn't be much useful for Barca. After Andreas Christensen and Franck Kessié these transfers show that Barcelona has a new and better starting lineup. Would it be enough for La Liga championship, I think there are still a lot of work to do.
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July 14, 2022, 04:21:53 PM
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Barcelona have solved their problem on their right wing. They have signed Dembele and Raphinha both officially. They are waiting for the result of the talks for Frenkie de Jong also. If Manchester United end this deal for the benefit of them then Barcelona will have to find someone to bring into the midfield. Barcelona must be doing their best to keep him at the club and the player doesn't have a big intention to leave too. Manchester United's job is really difficult as a result.
Honestly, I actually agree more if they keep Frankie de Jong, because earlier if they sold him it would create a new gap in their squad. There is still time for them to consider the departure of Frankie de Jong, if they realize that I think they will do the best thing by turning down offers for their midfield player.
But the problem now is that barcelona need big money to cover their expenses, the only way to get big money is of course by selling de jong to another club, actually barcelona has reached an agreement with manchester united about the transfer of de jong but somehow it arrived currently the transfer has not been realized at all, it seems there are a few problems that Barcelona really need to solve with de jong so barcelona can quickly complete the deal with manchester united, indeed the sale of de jong will disrupt the stability of the club especially their midfield but there is no other way for Barcelona to earn money apart from selling de jong right now.
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July 14, 2022, 04:24:24 PM
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not only that factor but because Barcelona coach Xavi has said that Dembele will be an important player for them and thus it is not impossible that Dembele wants to stay for a better career even though his salary will be cut.

I'm not sure about that, with the 4-3-3 formation used by Barcelona, Xavi only needs three up front, Aubameyang, Torres and Depay the favorites plus the arrival of new star Raphinha will make Dembele even more difficult. I estimate Barcelona will be controlled by Aubameyang, Torres and Raphinha next season, Dembele will probably spend more time on the bench.

I'm still curious why he chose to stay, while his position is threatened by Barcelona's young star, Dembele will find it difficult to shine.


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July 14, 2022, 04:31:10 PM
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I'm not sure about that, with the 4-3-3 formation used by Barcelona, Xavi only needs three up front, Aubameyang, Torres and Depay the favorites plus the arrival of new star Raphinha will make Dembele even more difficult. I estimate Barcelona will be controlled by Aubameyang, Torres and Raphinha next season, Dembele will probably spend more time on the bench.
Dembele played well enough in the last season that is his best for Barcelona after moving there from Dortmund. After three seasons struggled with injuries and bad discipline in life and in training, now Dembele is improving. Healthier, stronger and more disciplined with himself.

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I'm still curious why he chose to stay, while his position is threatened by Barcelona's young star, Dembele will find it difficult to shine
Maybe he could not find better clubs and convince them to sign with him. In addition, he might see he is still competitive in Barcelona and don't have reason to leave and have risk that he will not be chosen for the World Cup. I think Raphinha will have a difficult season, fight with Dembele and get a position in the trio attackers, and adapt to new tactics.
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July 14, 2022, 04:33:18 PM
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I haven't seen dembele's official status, did I miss it?
And regarding the possible departure of Frenkie de Jong, I think it has been prepared because they have bring Franck Kessie from Milan on a free transfer. The defense line is also ready, Andreas Christensen was brought in from Chelsea on a free transfer as well. As far as I'm concerned they only spent money on Raphinha, that means there's still a chance that Barcelona will chase the new player this season.
Dembele will stay at Barcelona and he has agreed to a pay cut. I do not know why he decided to stay, perhaps the reason is that the club owes him a large amount of money and they promised to close this debt. I also read that because of Barcelona's debt to him, he cannot leave the club, I don't know all the intricacies of this situation, but I think that this could somehow affect the fact that he remained in the team.
Dembele contract extension was not due to unresolved debt arrears between the two parties, Dembele could have taken legal action if Barcelona was unable to pay the debt to the player. Dembele decision to stay because he still wants to be part of the Barcelona squad, he is also one of the players Xavi likes. Dembele needs to maintain a balance in his game in order to appear in the 2022 world cup, he feels Barcelona can improve his performance to be able to perform better under Xavi's tutelage.

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July 14, 2022, 05:01:24 PM
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Dembele contract extension was not due to unresolved debt arrears between the two parties, Dembele could have taken legal action if Barcelona was unable to pay the debt to the player. Dembele decision to stay because he still wants to be part of the Barcelona squad, he is also one of the players Xavi likes. Dembele needs to maintain a balance in his game in order to appear in the 2022 world cup, he feels Barcelona can improve his performance to be able to perform better under Xavi's tutelage.

That's right, Dembele likes Xavi's tactics, and doesn't mind staying with Barca this season. Moreover, several Barca players will also be released in the transfer market this season. Barca still hasn't gotten an improvement in the club's finances. One of the players who will be released is Frenkie De Jong who has already got an agreement with United. because previously the player was reluctant to accept a pay cut, and finally chose to leave Barcelona. this is good enough for Barca because some new players will also come in.

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July 14, 2022, 05:24:47 PM
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Atletico Madrid will putting Alvaro Morata into sell lists this because Simeone want to looking for new strikers instead of him and also to balanced financial club because currently Atletico financial is not really good but so far there is no clubs that is interested in him besides Juventus so probably Atletico will open negotiations again to Juventus to talking about this transfer and maybe Morata status will be permanently by Juventus
Maybe I'm the only one who feels something is strange, Morata and Dybala are great players and they don't play for Juventus anymore but then it's like no club is interested in him. Even though there are still two more seasons on Morata's contract at Atletico, although Atletico relate it to their finances, I personally don't really believe it. Because after all Atletico will still need experienced forwards, because Suarez is out of contract and only leaves Antoine Griezmann because the other forwards are still young.
In this case, perhaps the incompatibility factor behind them is not of much interest.
We know about Morata who has played for some big clubs like Madrid, Atletico and even Chelsea. But he didn't fully fit in there and now that his contract is up at Juventus there are actually some rumors saying that Atletico are ready to get him back, but until now this has not been confirmed either.

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July 14, 2022, 06:01:42 PM
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I think Bayern Munich are too selfish, they don't need to be so adamant about Lewandowski. The offer made by Barcelona is very profitable for Munich, this is the last chance for Munich to get some money from Lewandowski before his contract expires. Next year Lewandowski will be a free transfer and Bayern Munich will not get anything from him. Previously, Lewandowski had also said he wanted to leave Munich, if Munich did not release Lewandowski in the transfer market this time, he would not perform optimally because Bayern Munich did not want to open the door to him, obviously this would be detrimental to Munich.

Even though Bayern Munich will want to cash in on a deal for Lewandoski, they might also consider keeping him till the end of the season. Lewandowski may be old but he can still guarantee them lots of goals if he stays, he could be what the team needs next season and might consider a signing one year contract at the end of the season. It is a 50:50 choice though but which ever way it goes should be good for the club.
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July 14, 2022, 06:26:44 PM
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That's right, Dembele likes Xavi's tactics, and doesn't mind staying with Barca this season. Moreover, several Barca players will also be released in the transfer market this season. Barca still hasn't gotten an improvement in the club's finances. One of the players who will be released is Frenkie De Jong who has already got an agreement with United. because previously the player was reluctant to accept a pay cut, and finally chose to leave Barcelona. this is good enough for Barca because some new players will also come in.
De Jong is asked to accept to move to ManU. Barcelona will get from that €70m. There is also bonuses that might make the deal €80m in total.
I believe the price is quite high but that will help a lot Barcelona to register Dembele, Raphinha, Christensen and maybe others coming. Also getting ride of €30-35m of his salary will help a lot the club. It is a good move for the interest of both teams except De Jong himself who will have less wage AFAIK

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July 14, 2022, 06:54:09 PM
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I think Bayern Munich are too selfish, they don't need to be so adamant about Lewandowski. The offer made by Barcelona is very profitable for Munich, this is the last chance for Munich to get some money from Lewandowski before his contract expires. Next year Lewandowski will be a free transfer and Bayern Munich will not get anything from him. Previously, Lewandowski had also said he wanted to leave Munich, if Munich did not release Lewandowski in the transfer market this time, he would not perform optimally because Bayern Munich did not want to open the door to him, obviously this would be detrimental to Munich.

Even though Bayern Munich will want to cash in on a deal for Lewandoski, they might also consider keeping him till the end of the season. Lewandowski may be old but he can still guarantee them lots of goals if he stays, he could be what the team needs next season and might consider a signing one year contract at the end of the season. It is a 50:50 choice though but which ever way it goes should be good for the club.
At the moment Bayern don't seem to care about money and prefer to keep Lewandowski for one more season and let him leave on a free next season.
With his actual productivity it's still worth it if Lewandowski can play Professional later if he can't go anywhere.
But the transfer windows are now still open and anything is possible, It's up to Barcelona as well whether they can afford to pay the same price as Raphinha or not.

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July 14, 2022, 07:14:57 PM
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not only that factor but because Barcelona coach Xavi has said that Dembele will be an important player for them and thus it is not impossible that Dembele wants to stay for a better career even though his salary will be cut. I think it's the right choice that Dembele has made, at Barcelona Dembele's career is very possible to continue to improve even though now Barcelona has made a big improvement to be better next season.
I think that he could develop just as well and take a very important place in any other big team. And in another team, he might not have to agree to a pay cut, but we will not know this. If he appreciates a good relationship with the coach, then this is his choice.

Dembele contract extension was not due to unresolved debt arrears between the two parties, Dembele could have taken legal action if Barcelona was unable to pay the debt to the player.
Barcelona is still not pay to him the whole amount promised, but as you can see, no one is suing, and it would be extremely unwise for him to do so. This would mean cutting off all relations with the club. They are talking to the players about this situation, everyone is asked to be understanding and wait for better times, they promise to pay everyone everything, no one will sue in such a situation.

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July 14, 2022, 07:20:35 PM
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Even though Bayern Munich will want to cash in on a deal for Lewandoski, they might also consider keeping him till the end of the season. Lewandowski may be old but he can still guarantee them lots of goals if he stays, he could be what the team needs next season and might consider a signing one year contract at the end of the season. It is a 50:50 choice though but which ever way it goes should be good for the club.
Maybe money issues have kept Lewandowski's transfer to Barcelona stagnant, but I think Bayern Munich just don't want to reach an agreement. So far Barcelona have managed to bring in several players such as Dembele (re-contract), Kessie, Christensen, Raphinha but Lewandowski's negotiations with Bayern Munich have not ended. Bayern should let the player go because they have got Mane, but either way they might want a high fee or something obvious from Barcelona who still have a lot of debt.

Xavi still wants to sign Lewandowski this season, but I'm sure Barcelona won't be in too much of a problem if they end these negotiations if the two teams don't come to an agreement. Xavi can play a number of players because I think Depay, Aubameyang and the rest of the strikers are still pretty good.
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July 14, 2022, 07:31:40 PM
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Barcelona is beating the odds and building a strong and better team, we can see Xavi has plans for the team and for the coming season. I believe Barcelona will do better and will be a tougher opponent in the La Liga next season and even be title contenders. The El Classico will be a joy to watch again because both Barcelona and Real Madrid are stronger and better and will put up a very competitive game again.
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July 14, 2022, 08:18:11 PM
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Barcelona have solved their problem on their right wing. They have signed Dembele and Raphinha both officially. They are waiting for the result of the talks for Frenkie de Jong also. If Manchester United end this deal for the benefit of them then Barcelona will have to find someone to bring into the midfield. Barcelona must be doing their best to keep him at the club and the player doesn't have a big intention to leave too. Manchester United's job is really difficult as a result.
Honestly, I actually agree more if they keep Frankie de Jong, because earlier if they sold him it would create a new gap in their squad. There is still time for them to consider the departure of Frankie de Jong, if they realize that I think they will do the best thing by turning down offers for their midfield player.
De Jong departure is only an issue that has not come true, until now De Jong is still part of the Barcelona squad. De Jong has told the media that he is still very happy at Barcelona and the Barcelona management also has no intention of selling De Jong at all. Laporta really supports and gives freedom to Xavi in ​​choosing new players who will be brought to Barcelona, ​​he has also promised Xavi that the transfer of Lewandowski will be realized soon.

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July 14, 2022, 08:34:27 PM
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Barcelona have solved their problem on their right wing. They have signed Dembele and Raphinha both officially. They are waiting for the result of the talks for Frenkie de Jong also. If Manchester United end this deal for the benefit of them then Barcelona will have to find someone to bring into the midfield. Barcelona must be doing their best to keep him at the club and the player doesn't have a big intention to leave too. Manchester United's job is really difficult as a result.
Honestly, I actually agree more if they keep Frankie de Jong, because earlier if they sold him it would create a new gap in their squad. There is still time for them to consider the departure of Frankie de Jong, if they realize that I think they will do the best thing by turning down offers for their midfield player.
De Jong departure is only an issue that has not come true, until now De Jong is still part of the Barcelona squad. De Jong has told the media that he is still very happy at Barcelona and the Barcelona management also has no intention of selling De Jong at all. Laporta really supports and gives freedom to Xavi in ​​choosing new players who will be brought to Barcelona, ​​he has also promised Xavi that the transfer of Lewandowski will be realized soon.

I think the power of De Jong is greatly underestimated by the Spanish newspapers. I don't understand much of Barcelona's policy anyway. They keep buying but want to get rid of the Jong because they have financial problems. If De Jong doesn't play there anymore, they will notice. We should not be surprised if this Barcelona sinks into a deep trough. Although they did make a top purchase with that striker Aubemayang last season. The question is to what extent Xavi can continue the upward trend with this team. But they will miss de Jong dearly.

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