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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24%)
Real Madrid - 82 (67.8%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.6%)
Total Voters: 121

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June 24, 2023, 11:12:05 PM
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Some Barcelona players continue to leave the team one by one. Busquets is also leaving now. Therefore Barcelona did the right thing by signing Gundogan. Their characteristics aren't the same though. Because Gundogan is more like an attacking oriented player. Maybe Barcelona would bring a defensive midfielder as well in the coming days.
They were leaving caused by barcelona is only looking for young player to stay in the club, busquets was old enough to play in european competition.
It's the time for him to give a chance for young talented player to take his position. Barcelnoa was able getting gundogan to replace him. Busquets has become a captain in barcelona and will gundogan also become a captain in barcelona?
That's very interesting to wait.

But these departures are good ones for Barcelona actually. Because they really needed to get rid of some old players to play according to Xavi's system better. Barcelona were born again with young players and they will need time to become much more successful.
Old players are still needed. Even though busquets were leaving from the club, bug gundogan was coming to replace him. Young talented squads are good but it's still lack of experienced player.
That's why gundogan has been needed to fill busquet's position. Barcelona needs a fully experienced player like him. He can also become a captain for the club.
He will able to give more experience to the young player.

When it comes to the captain question who knows maybe Gundogan can really get it from Busquets. Because he has already been the captain at Manchester City. He is very experienced with that role but let's see. Maybe Xavi thought of someone else to give it to before this transfer. Besides Gundogan is going to be new around here as well.

Old players can still contribute well to the team with their experience yeah. Gundogan isn't even that old actually. He is younger than Busquets and his performance has still been really decent.

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June 24, 2023, 11:13:35 PM
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Real Madrid selected the best players of the time for their team. But I wouldn't say that Madrid has always been successful. I think no one would disagree that Eden Hazard is a very talented player. However, he was not successful with Madrid. If he worked hard enough, maybe he could have had a great performance with Madrid. It's not just that Madrid lost money by buying Eden Hazard. Madrid also spent a lot of money on Bale. But Bale was not successful with Madrid. However, Madrid always tries to add the best players to their squad.

How was Bale not successful for Madrid? He did not live up to expectation but he was not a failure. Bale had about 106 goals and 67 assist for Real Madrid. He won every trophy there is to be won. He scored in important games. 
You cant compare him to Hazard. Hazard was a total failure at Real Madrid. In fact I can say that in the worst signing of any club and the biggest flop of any club. Maybe it was the injuries, maybe it was an uncomfortable environment, maybe it was lack of confidence but all these doesn't change the fact that he was a total flop at Madrid.

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June 24, 2023, 11:15:16 PM
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I also think Zidane is a suitable candidate to be a manager for Real Madrid he's a genius, also as you said Real Madrid won the Champions League 3 times in a row under his management. He's also been at Real Madrid for a long time that makes him a candidate strongest to replace Ancellotti position, and if Zidane becomes a manager in the 2024 then Real Madrid has a higher chance of winning all the big titles again.
It's true but don't you remember about how difficult in recruiting him to be the next manager of real madrid? Zidane may not become the most favorite candidate to handle real madrid next season.
I prefer for madrid to take xabi as a new coach next season. Even though it has not been long since he has become a new manager for leverkusen and he was capable enough to handle real madrid after next season.
Ancelotti will be going to the brazil and he will become the most suitable player to replace ancelotti's position. I think that we can't always try to talk about zidane.
He is not even making any statements regarding his career. I don't even know why people are still favoring him even when he was not making a clarification regarding his career.

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June 24, 2023, 11:27:24 PM
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Obviously, Hazard was a failed purchase or didn't manage to contribute well to Real Madrid but for Bale, I don't agree if you say Bale was a failed purchase either or didn't manage to contribute well to Real Madrid. Because in my view Bale still manages to make a good contribution to Real Madrid, at least you can also consider the amount of time given to Bale to play compared to Hazard. What's more, Bale also scored beautiful goals as well as winning goals quite often and as such, surely Bale is a successful buy to have a big contribution to Real Madrid.
That was the big gamble that Real Madrid did at that time they made Hazard Transfer break the Club record but in reality we see Hazard failed to make a big contribution to Real Madrid.  There were many obstacles that prevented him from showing the quality he had because of the injury he had experienced. In addition, there was strong competition to become the coach's first choice, as in last season, it could be said that Hazard was a player who often filled the bench. So this season, by agreement of both parties, they decided to split up after 4 seasons together. For the latest news about Hazard, it seems that there is no official club to use his services next season and it is possible that he will choose to retire early. Real Madrid often make many surprises in the transfer window where they often buy players at quite high prices, this is because Real Madrid is the Laliga team that has the strongest finances at the moment. Bellingham was also brought in at a high price. Now, if Real Madrid are able to bring in Mbappe in this season transfer window, there is a high probability that the record held by Hazard will be broken by Mbappe transfer.

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June 24, 2023, 11:47:54 PM
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That was the big gamble that Real Madrid did at that time they made Hazard Transfer break the Club record but in reality we see Hazard failed to make a big contribution to Real Madrid.  There were many obstacles that prevented him from showing the quality he had because of the injury he had experienced. In addition, there was strong competition to become the coach's first choice, as in last season, it could be said that Hazard was a player who often filled the bench.
In such big transfers, clubs have to bet that their money will result in good contributions from the player. Haazard played very well in Chelsea and before the transfer, he won Europa League with Chelsea but during few months in the summer, after the transfer to Real Madrid, Hazard shown bad signal by becoming overweight within a few months.

Even he would not get too many injuries, with such body, he could not play well. In reality, overweight contributed to his injuries during the time in Real Madrid too. Real Madrid did not know about vulnerable body of Hazard if Chelsea hid the fact before the transfer but they did not control what Hazard will do with his mouth after the transfer.

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So this season, by agreement of both parties, they decided to split up after 4 seasons together. For the latest news about Hazard, it seems that there is no official club to use his services next season and it is possible that he will choose to retire early.
He is still young but already becomes a useless player. It's a big regret for Hazard and football as he can make his career better. He is not only unlucky with injuries but also be responsible for this by his unprofessionality.
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June 25, 2023, 02:15:54 AM
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How was Bale not successful for Madrid? He did not live up to expectation but he was not a failure. Bale had about 106 goals and 67 assist for Real Madrid. He won every trophy there is to be won. He scored in important games. 
You cant compare him to Hazard. Hazard was a total failure at Real Madrid. In fact I can say that in the worst signing of any club and the biggest flop of any club. Maybe it was the injuries, maybe it was an uncomfortable environment, maybe it was lack of confidence but all these doesn't change the fact that he was a total flop at Madrid.
Gareth Bale was not a flop or disappointment for Los Blancos, but he probably scanned out of luck in the Madrid squad because Cristiano Ronaldo's presence was the ultimate trend and the fans gave everything to Ronaldo, despite the assistance from other teammates, the news and game focus was always on Ronaldo, so how do we rate Bale, afterall Benzema and Bale were underrated during their time playing with Ronaldo? However, Eden Hazard arrived during the Madrid the development process. Carlo Ancelotti gave him the chance to show the club that he is still valued, but Hazard fell short of expectations, due to severe injuries he got during his first season as Madrid new signing.

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June 25, 2023, 03:00:14 AM
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Real Madrid selected the best players of the time for their team. But I wouldn't say that Madrid has always been successful. I think no one would disagree that Eden Hazard is a very talented player. However, he was not successful with Madrid. If he worked hard enough, maybe he could have had a great performance with Madrid. It's not just that Madrid lost money by buying Eden Hazard. Madrid also spent a lot of money on Bale. But Bale was not successful with Madrid. However, Madrid always tries to add the best players to their squad.
You blame Gareth  Bale statistic with Real Madrid and his achievement winning Champion League, La Liga and Copa del Rey, you can remember when Real Madrid winning Champion League tittle three time in a row and Bale is trio attacking line for Madrid with Karim Benzema and Cristiano Ronaldo. Not true about Gareth Bale is not successful with Real Madrid because he has important contribution for winning Champion League and La Liga tittles. For Eden Hazard is right as not successful transfer for Real Madrid, absent on many matches because Hazard got injured and difficult for scoring goals or assist before losing his position on left forward replacing by Vinicius Jr.

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Real Madrid selected the best players of the time for their team. But I wouldn't say that Madrid has always been successful. I think no one would disagree that Eden Hazard is a very talented player. However, he was not successful with Madrid. If he worked hard enough, maybe he could have had a great performance with Madrid. It's not just that Madrid lost money by buying Eden Hazard. Madrid also spent a lot of money on Bale. But Bale was not successful with Madrid. However, Madrid always tries to add the best players to their squad.
You blame Gareth  Bale statistic with Real Madrid and his achievement winning Champion League, La Liga and Copa del Rey, you can remember when Real Madrid winning Champion League tittle three time in a row and Bale is trio attacking line for Madrid with Karim Benzema and Cristiano Ronaldo. Not true about Gareth Bale is not successful with Real Madrid because he has important contribution for winning Champion League and La Liga tittles. For Eden Hazard is right as not successful transfer for Real Madrid, absent on many matches because Hazard got injured and difficult for scoring goals or assist before losing his position on left forward replacing by Vinicius Jr.

It's like Hazard forgot about football. He hasn't played in such a long time that I don't understand how a talent like him disappeared. He was a great player, working wonders when he played for Chelsea, but his Madrid career didn't go as he expected. Combined with injuries and poor performance in Real Madrid, he could not wear the jersey again.

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June 25, 2023, 04:20:46 AM
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Next season will be a hard season for Xavi and Barcelona because they couldn't have players like Real Madrid and other teams have much better performances in the transfer window, Barcelona needs to have a young alternative player for Lewandovki and they don't have a financial situation for even think about players like Kane or Osimhen.
I think unlike what we saw this season, in the next season Real Madrid will have much more chance than Barcelona.

I don't think, next season will be hard for Barcelona to performance well because their coach believe in his players that they will dominate well next season more than this season so that the world will celebrate him for wonderful job. Not by using huge amount of money to sign players will determine their performance, it will surprise you that next season will be the worst season for Real Madrid because it will be difficult for their coach to get a good players that can handle those players that are about to leave the team. Barcelona will still dominate well in la Liga league competition and other competitions, because their coach is very ready to use this opportunity well by imparting the players some skills that will make them to be above any team in points or performance next season.

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June 25, 2023, 04:31:15 AM
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Next season will be a hard season for Xavi and Barcelona because they couldn't have players like Real Madrid and other teams have much better performances in the transfer window, Barcelona needs to have a young alternative player for Lewandovki and they don't have a financial situation for even think about players like Kane or Osimhen.
I think unlike what we saw this season, in the next season Real Madrid will have much more chance than Barcelona.
Who do you maen above? Barcelona has been getting one of best player right now and it's gundogan from manchester city. The problem if gundogan will not be used as a replacement for busquet. The only problem if xavi was looking for another player from girona to replace busquets which is very bad. I think that if real madrid is still gambling with joselu. We shall wait until the pre match. That will give us a small insight about how good the transfers that have already made by madrid and barcelona.
Calling barcelona's transfer was failed is wrong caused by we are still far away from the end of transfer season. There is still enough time for barcelona to buy more players other than gundogan.
Barcelona is still having some targets that have not yet been completed. I think that you shall be patience a little bit more.

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June 25, 2023, 05:22:50 AM
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Apart from that, Barcelona also needs to thank the players who are currently holding on because they are willing to give this salary cut to improve the club. Instead, this should make Barcelona a club worth fighting for. Look at De Jong who consistently survives amid offers from big clubs but he chooses to stay. Gundogan position has been ideal at Barcelona since the departure of Sergio Busquets, maybe he will be made captain at Barcelona rather than appointing young players. Gundogan leadership can help and I'm sure Xavi likes Gundogan too.

As you said, yes Gundogan is a great replacement for Busquets, but I don't think Barcelona would trust him straight away as captain especially in his first season.

If you look deeper, then maybe you will find the figure of the captain who is most likely to lead Barcelona next season. Sergi Roberto, Marc-André ter Stegen and Frenkie de Jong will probably be up for that responsibility over the next season. So I believe Ilkay Gundogan doesn't deserve the captain's armband yet as he's not a player known for his loyalty as a new players. Araujo might have been more appropriate even though he was young.
Surely, Ilkay Gundogan's prowess at Manchester City is undeniable, making him a potential gem for Barcelona. Yet, assigning him the captain's armband in his debut season could be hasty. Players like Sergi Roberto, Marc-André ter Stegen, and Frenkie de Jong, have shown not only performance but club loyalty. Captaincy is more than a role; it's an emblem of skill and devotion. Hence, Gundogan might need time to show his loyalty to Barcelona before earning the captain's role.


Ilkay Gundogan is a valuable player for Manchester City. It would not be wrong to say that Manchester City is an efficient captain. He is currently planning to leave Manchester City. Ilkay Gundogan's contract with Manchester City may not be to his liking, which could lead him to choose Barcelona as his next destination. At this time of club change, Ilkay Gundogan will most likely go to Barcelona if he leaves the club and if he goes to Barcelona, he may not get the responsibility of captaincy there because the Spanish veteran Sergio Busquets is already doing great captaincy for Barcelona. As long as he stays at Barcelona, the captaincy will remain in his hands. Barcelona will hire Ilkay Gundogan not for his captaincy but for his performances.
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June 25, 2023, 06:17:28 AM
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It's like Hazard forgot about football. He hasn't played in such a long time that I don't understand how a talent like him disappeared. He was a great player, working wonders when he played for Chelsea, but his Madrid career didn't go as he expected. Combined with injuries and poor performance in Real Madrid, he could not wear the jersey again.

The only best thing for him to consider play for saudi club. It's better rather than trying to force himself for something that he can'd to that again in european football. There's no club interested to sign him after real madrid already confirmed to terminate his contract this month.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/37788897/eden-hazard-leave-real-madrid-month-contract-terminated

The future of hazard is still uncertain. I don't see another choice for him other than going tot he saudi pro league.
He will be able to continue his career even though he will not become a big player again at least he can still use his skill there.

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June 25, 2023, 06:24:37 AM
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It's like Hazard forgot about football. He hasn't played in such a long time that I don't understand how a talent like him disappeared. He was a great player, working wonders when he played for Chelsea, but his Madrid career didn't go as he expected. Combined with injuries and poor performance in Real Madrid, he could not wear the jersey again.

The only best thing for him to consider play for saudi club. It's better rather than trying to force himself for something that he can'd to that again in european football. There's no club interested to sign him after real madrid already confirmed to terminate his contract this month.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/37788897/eden-hazard-leave-real-madrid-month-contract-terminated

The future of hazard is still uncertain. I don't see another choice for him other than going tot he saudi pro league.
He will be able to continue his career even though he will not become a big player again at least he can still use his skill there.
Currently, so many European players who have expired choose to join the Saudi league team and it is quite natural that Hazard will decide to go to the Saudi league if one of the teams there starts offering him a salary. After leaving Real Madrid, Hazard's future has not met with certainty until now and in my opinion, if he forces himself to stay in Europe, it will make him feel uncomfortable with his performance, which has now declined considerably. In the Saudi league, it really doesn't really need great skills, but the important thing is that the big name as one of the footballers is what they will sell there.

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The only best thing for him to consider play for saudi club. It's better rather than trying to force himself for something that he can'd to that again in european football. There's no club interested to sign him after real madrid already confirmed to terminate his contract this month.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/37788897/eden-hazard-leave-real-madrid-month-contract-terminated

The future of hazard is still uncertain. I don't see another choice for him other than going tot he saudi pro league.
He will be able to continue his career even though he will not become a big player again at least he can still use his skill there.

I haven't heard any rumours related to Hazard recently. Actually he might even go back to the Premier League but it wouldn't be one of top teams there. We might see him playing for an average level team. Teams such as Aston Villa have been interested in bringing such players recently. Maybe Hazard might be their next target in the near future.

If he can't find himself a proper European team to go to this summer then he can seriously think of going outside Europe. He can make a lot of more money for sure. As he has got a serious injury period at Real Madrid we don't even know how good he would be able to play.

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June 25, 2023, 10:45:31 AM
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It's like Hazard forgot about football. He hasn't played in such a long time that I don't understand how a talent like him disappeared. He was a great player, working wonders when he played for Chelsea, but his Madrid career didn't go as he expected. Combined with injuries and poor performance in Real Madrid, he could not wear the jersey again.

The only best thing for him to consider play for saudi club. It's better rather than trying to force himself for something that he can'd to that again in european football. There's no club interested to sign him after real madrid already confirmed to terminate his contract this month.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/37788897/eden-hazard-leave-real-madrid-month-contract-terminated

The future of hazard is still uncertain. I don't see another choice for him other than going tot he saudi pro league.
He will be able to continue his career even though he will not become a big player again at least he can still use his skill there.
Actually there are many reasons that make Eden Hazard slowly lose his performance. The first reason is because he has suffered many injuries so he always misses the opportunity to show his best performance while defending Real Madrid. And the second reason is that when Eden Hazard finally recovered from injury, it seemed that the Real Madrid coach had lost his trust in Eden Hazard. So that Eden Hazard has very little playing time. and he couldn't contribute much to the team because he didn't have many opportunities. The third reason is that he was unable to compete with the young players who were brought in by Real Madrid.

Now Eden Hazard, who is in free status, is actually still in demand by several clubs from Italy. Even Eden Hazard could have chosen to reunite with Mourinho at the Roma club. But of course with the condition that Hazard must be willing to be paid less than when he was at Real Madrid.

Eden Hazard reminds me a little of the condition of Sadio Mane who really shone at Liverpool but then faded away when he played at Bayern. Sadio Mane also often gets injured. I'm afraid Mane will suffer the same fate as Eden Hazard.
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June 25, 2023, 11:05:27 AM
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Have you heard about some news like Gareth Bale can return from retirement to football? It is said that he might really return after hearing about how much Saudi Arabian teams pay for players these days.  Cheesy  When I first heard about the possibility I thought that we would watch him in the La Liga again. But it looks like he might only return for making an incredible amount of money for a couple of years.

After that I assume we wouldn't see him going back to the La Liga or any other top league. But this is only about a rumour until we hear the same words from Bale to verify that.

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June 25, 2023, 11:18:48 AM
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Have you heard about some news like Gareth Bale can return from retirement to football? It is said that he might really return after hearing about how much Saudi Arabian teams pay for players these days.  Cheesy  When I first heard about the possibility I thought that we would watch him in the La Liga again. But it looks like he might only return for making an incredible amount of money for a couple of years.
Bale will take such good offers from Saudi Arabian clubs into consideration and if they pay him like a half of salary for Cristiano or Benzema, Bale will consider it carefully. He can make magnificent moments but he is no longer able to play a full match and too many matches in a season. If Saudi Arabian clubs are ready to pay him good money with limited appearances, I see Bale will not reject such offers to fill his pocket.

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After that I assume we wouldn't see him going back to the La Liga or any other top league. But this is only about a rumour until we hear the same words from Bale to verify that.
No chance for Bale to return to big leagues in Europe and even he does not want it too. If he wanted it, he would have continued his career in Europe rather than moving to MLS then announcing his retirement few months later.

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about two weeks after parting ways with Carlos Carvalhal, celta vigo has found the right successor for the coaching job. Rafael Benitez returns after a year and a half without a club and takes over at the spanish la liga club. for the 63-yo, who won the champions league with fc liverpool in 2005, this is his 14th stint as a professional coach. RB was last contracted to english pl club fc everton until january of last calendar year.

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June 25, 2023, 11:30:09 AM
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The only best thing for him to consider play for saudi club. It's better rather than trying to force himself for something that he can'd to that again in european football. There's no club interested to sign him after real madrid already confirmed to terminate his contract this month.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/37788897/eden-hazard-leave-real-madrid-month-contract-terminated

The future of hazard is still uncertain. I don't see another choice for him other than going tot he saudi pro league.
He will be able to continue his career even though he will not become a big player again at least he can still use his skill there.

I haven't heard any rumours related to Hazard recently. Actually he might even go back to the Premier League but it wouldn't be one of top teams there. We might see him playing for an average level team. Teams such as Aston Villa have been interested in bringing such players recently. Maybe Hazard might be their next target in the near future.

If he can't find himself a proper European team to go to this summer then he can seriously think of going outside Europe. He can make a lot of more money for sure. As he has got a serious injury period at Real Madrid we don't even know how good he would be able to play.

Eden Hazard would be one of those typical Saudi Arabia transfers or don't you think so?

With his history of injures and his age, if he wants to go back to the Premier League, the most intense league in the world and try it again with his knee? I think it was his knee that was so often injured. He would be doing better if he plays in a league that is not as intense and it is also not a big problem if he misses a few games. If he can also make a lot of money at the same time, maybe that is one of his plans. But the news from beginning of June say that there also considerations to go to the MLS.

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June 25, 2023, 11:33:02 AM
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I haven't heard any rumours related to Hazard recently. Actually he might even go back to the Premier League but it wouldn't be one of top teams there. We might see him playing for an average level team. Teams such as Aston Villa have been interested in bringing such players recently. Maybe Hazard might be their next target in the near future.

If he can't find himself a proper European team to go to this summer then he can seriously think of going outside Europe. He can make a lot of more money for sure. As he has got a serious injury period at Real Madrid we don't even know how good he would be able to play.
It's quite sad to see a player like Eden Hazard have a career without certainty like now, mediocre clubs can take advantage of this situation because the market value is very low for a player like him only €5.00m, maybe there are still remnants of his greatness that he can give to clubs interested in signing him and he is still 32 years old so a few years is still possible to play, FC Montreal from MLS is reportedly interested in signing him but no further news yet.

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