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October 26, 2021, 12:08:15 PM |
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I hope that gambling platforms have an algorithm that detects the same IP address
They always have tools to check IP address of users. Casinos are targets from cheaters and they have to protect themselves by powerful tools. Unless you are not violating any rules you would not face any problem but if you are found for something suspicious like funds manipulation then accounts are banned as they always monitor these IP related issues and try to use different for different accounts that will help you better. Mostly we see that actions executed by the casino and its easy for them to get triggered especially funds manipulation since no real gamblers will deposit their funds and withdraw it immediately at the same time so obviously this kind of act is subject for verification. But if other from that which doesn't violate anything but the IP is used maybe many times for some reasons well I think that's forgivable since anyone can make mistake towards account creation.
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Lakai01
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October 26, 2021, 05:13:33 PM |
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Indeed actions like this are quite difficult but I can't convince them to last long in the casino I offer on that link (this is outside the forum) unless I always give them winning pictures maybe they can last a long time and at first just take advantage of the signup bonus.
Unfortunately, something like this can also backfire relatively quickly. At the time, I wanted to convince a friend to join Crypto as well (BTC) and sent him screenshots of my Bullrun profits at the end of 2013. He then decided to invest as well, pretty much at the all-time high at the time. You can imagine what happened to his money and how many times he held it against me. We can laugh about it now, of course, but it was really unpleasant at the time. In my opinion, "attempts to convince" bring rather little and can also be very stressful for a friendship.
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Findingnemo
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October 26, 2021, 05:38:16 PM |
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Indeed actions like this are quite difficult but I can't convince them to last long in the casino I offer on that link (this is outside the forum) unless I always give them winning pictures maybe they can last a long time and at first just take advantage of the signup bonus.
Unfortunately, something like this can also backfire relatively quickly. At the time, I wanted to convince a friend to join Crypto as well (BTC) and sent him screenshots of my Bullrun profits at the end of 2013. He then decided to invest as well, pretty much at the all-time high at the time. You can imagine what happened to his money and how many times he held it against me. We can laugh about it now, of course, but it was really unpleasant at the time. In my opinion, "attempts to convince" bring rather little and can also be very stressful for a friendship. When it comes to money we shouldn't have to mess it up with the relationship either it can be friends or family because it outs extra pressure on us even though we are not going to get any benefits from it, just give them a tip and let them to decide what is good for them. AFAIK I never convinced anyone to start gamble but I have given lot of ideas to pick the right casinos for them in the online platform because many of them end up depositing their money into scam casinos which they randomly found on the pop-up ads.
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October 26, 2021, 08:30:21 PM |
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I've had few players sign up via my link at other Casino, but it's hard to keeping them playing unless there's something we can give to them.
Such actions are also quite difficult for a casino. The players then come back briefly to get a "Welcome Back" bonus, for example, gamble it away and are then gone again. I think it is unrealistic that many players who have already stopped playing on a platform will continue to play there after a longer break. In general, I think referral actions make much more sense here: New players offer a much greater chance that they will remain active on the platform for longer. It's not that hard. My friend had a casino review website and he was getting great profit from it. Not everyone but good percentage of people who were registering via his affiliate link were active players. When you say that you have to give them something in order to keep them, it doesn't directly means the money, really. For some people, the give can be the fact that you helped them found a casino with great UI, promotions, privacy and all other services. Seems your customers were only the people who were seeking for some free bucks and that's all, they may registered for a single time to claim good promotion. Btw there is a single reason when player may return to casino: There was a case of Bitcoin halving some years ago, I mean BCH. A lot of people had some amount of bitcoins left on casinos and when the casinos supported the adoption of BCH, they deposited the equivalent amount of BCH on their accounts. It was a free money, some would gamble and some would withdraw.
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Johnyz
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October 26, 2021, 08:59:18 PM |
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I hope that gambling platforms have an algorithm that detects the same IP address
They always have tools to check IP address of users. Casinos are targets from cheaters and they have to protect themselves by powerful tools. Unless you are not violating any rules you would not face any problem but if you are found for something suspicious like funds manipulation then accounts are banned as they always monitor these IP related issues and try to use different for different accounts that will help you better. Having the same IP should not be a problem if there's a different user of that account, I mean if you're playing with your family and having the same internet connection that could be valid but if you have the same IP address that meant to violate the system, that could be a red flag to Roobet. I know they have this system to detect those with the same IP, its just that they still need to validate the connections of that accounts.
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October 26, 2021, 09:43:24 PM |
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I hope that gambling platforms have an algorithm that detects the same IP address
They always have tools to check IP address of users. Casinos are targets from cheaters and they have to protect themselves by powerful tools. Unless you are not violating any rules you would not face any problem but if you are found for something suspicious like funds manipulation then accounts are banned as they always monitor these IP related issues and try to use different for different accounts that will help you better. Having the same IP should not be a problem if there's a different user of that account, I mean if you're playing with your family and having the same internet connection that could be valid but if you have the same IP address that meant to violate the system, that could be a red flag to Roobet. I know they have this system to detect those with the same IP, its just that they still need to validate the connections of that accounts. There are instances like these on where there are several players on a particular household which means that whenever you do deal with a site then it is just sensible that you would really be that mindful when it comes to multiple accounts on same IP so that you wont really be experiencing some headaches later on when the site had caught you on having several accounts in one ip but well giving out some explanation isnt something that not worth to try and there might be some reconsiderations.
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October 26, 2021, 09:57:06 PM |
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I hope that gambling platforms have an algorithm that detects the same IP address
They always have tools to check IP address of users. Casinos are targets from cheaters and they have to protect themselves by powerful tools. Unless you are not violating any rules you would not face any problem but if you are found for something suspicious like funds manipulation then accounts are banned as they always monitor these IP related issues and try to use different for different accounts that will help you better. Having the same IP should not be a problem if there's a different user of that account, I mean if you're playing with your family and having the same internet connection that could be valid but if you have the same IP address that meant to violate the system, that could be a red flag to Roobet. I know they have this system to detect those with the same IP, its just that they still need to validate the connections of that accounts. You still have to consider this because you might also experience the same problem if you get caught, its actually hard to prove that you have a different user especially if you invite your friends or family under your affiliate. To avoid any problems, better to use data connections which can be different from every user, Roobet is also too strict with regards to this.
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October 27, 2021, 03:08:30 AM |
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I hope that gambling platforms have an algorithm that detects the same IP address
They always have tools to check IP address of users. Casinos are targets from cheaters and they have to protect themselves by powerful tools. Unless you are not violating any rules you would not face any problem but if you are found for something suspicious like funds manipulation then accounts are banned as they always monitor these IP related issues and try to use different for different accounts that will help you better. Having the same IP should not be a problem if there's a different user of that account, I mean if you're playing with your family and having the same internet connection that could be valid but if you have the same IP address that meant to violate the system, that could be a red flag to Roobet. I know they have this system to detect those with the same IP, its just that they still need to validate the connections of that accounts. You still have to consider this because you might also experience the same problem if you get caught, its actually hard to prove that you have a different user especially if you invite your friends or family under your affiliate. To avoid any problems, better to use data connections which can be different from every user, Roobet is also too strict with regards to this. When two different computers access the same site, they will have different IP. Maybe it looks like xxx.xxx.xxx.001 and xxx.xxx.xxx.002. So they will know if that user uses the same internet provider but uses a different computer because every computer has a different MacAddress and IP when connected to the internet. I am sure the casino will have the tools to identify if their user is the same or a different person who has the same locations. As long as we do not break their rules, I guess we will be okay and not get any problems.
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October 27, 2021, 07:09:36 AM |
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I hope that gambling platforms have an algorithm that detects the same IP address
They always have tools to check IP address of users. Casinos are targets from cheaters and they have to protect themselves by powerful tools. Unless you are not violating any rules you would not face any problem but if you are found for something suspicious like funds manipulation then accounts are banned as they always monitor these IP related issues and try to use different for different accounts that will help you better. Having the same IP should not be a problem if there's a different user of that account, I mean if you're playing with your family and having the same internet connection that could be valid but if you have the same IP address that meant to violate the system, that could be a red flag to Roobet. I know they have this system to detect those with the same IP, its just that they still need to validate the connections of that accounts. You still have to consider this because you might also experience the same problem if you get caught, its actually hard to prove that you have a different user especially if you invite your friends or family under your affiliate. To avoid any problems, better to use data connections which can be different from every user, Roobet is also too strict with regards to this. When two different computers access the same site, they will have different IP. Maybe it looks like xxx.xxx.xxx.001 and xxx.xxx.xxx.002. So they will know if that user uses the same internet provider but uses a different computer because every computer has a different MacAddress and IP when connected to the internet. I am sure the casino will have the tools to identify if their user is the same or a different person who has the same locations. As long as we do not break their rules, I guess we will be okay and not get any problems. But using 2 accounts are already breaking rules , means the moment you use 2 accounts in same address you will be counted as cheater(Even if you have reason i.e your brother,cousin,friend is using the other account) but as long as you are in the same Internet then you will be marked as cheater. this will not reflect as long as you are palying with small wins or losing but once you found luck and wins big? there will be the issue to face. Best to contact the team if you need to create another account if there is a valid reason , but why need to have another account if the team can reset the password for you once you lose access .
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October 27, 2021, 10:41:58 AM |
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I've had few players sign up via my link at other Casino, but it's hard to keeping them playing unless there's something we can give to them.
Such actions are also quite difficult for a casino. The players then come back briefly to get a "Welcome Back" bonus, for example, gamble it away and are then gone again. I think it is unrealistic that many players who have already stopped playing on a platform will continue to play there after a longer break. In general, I think referral actions make much more sense here: New players offer a much greater chance that they will remain active on the platform for longer. It's not that hard. My friend had a casino review website and he was getting great profit from it. Not everyone but good percentage of people who were registering via his affiliate link were active players. When you say that you have to give them something in order to keep them, it doesn't directly means the money, really. For some people, the give can be the fact that you helped them found a casino with great UI, promotions, privacy and all other services. Seems your customers were only the people who were seeking for some free bucks and that's all, they may registered for a single time to claim good promotion. Btw there is a single reason when player may return to casino: There was a case of Bitcoin halving some years ago, I mean BCH. A lot of people had some amount of bitcoins left on casinos and when the casinos supported the adoption of BCH, they deposited the equivalent amount of BCH on their accounts. It was a free money, some would gamble and some would withdraw. There are many people who register for signup bonus and have some freerolls and then they stop playing because they were never interested to spend their own funds for it but some people don't care and will play without these bonuses also and if you have affiliate reference links to them you will also be in profits.So it all depends upon the person playing that how will be he gambling and for short term or long term if he is your referral.
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DoublerHunter
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October 27, 2021, 12:11:12 PM |
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There are many people who register for signup bonus and have some freerolls and then they stop playing because they were never interested to spend their own funds for it but some people don't care and will play without these bonuses also and if you have affiliate reference links to them you will also be in profits.So it all depends upon the person playing that how will be he gambling and for short term or long term if he is your referral.
^ The answer is on the line that I bolded below, promos and bonuses are a kind of a trap in most gambling casinos, once a gambler is lured and stays on the casino after spending bonuses, it means they like it. So gambling casinos find marketing strategies that can be their audience target like promotion, contest, affiliate, bonuses, and many more that gamblers will have an interest in and will probably stay because not the casino itself, it is also those I mentioned above. Nevertheless, Roobet knows this everything, and they have perfect marketing strategies they used we saw they are one of the fastest-growing casinos.
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October 27, 2021, 03:34:20 PM |
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I hope that gambling platforms have an algorithm that detects the same IP address
They always have tools to check IP address of users. Casinos are targets from cheaters and they have to protect themselves by powerful tools. Only a naive casino won't use or have a company that does the work of detecting the account that belongs to a single person but the use of an IP address detector only could injustice. What about siblings that live in the same location that referral others? where accounts used for referrals are found inactive, should be banned because it's evident that they're several accounts.
If I invite new gamblers to a casino, and I don't actively gambling after that, it is unfair to ban my account. I can come back and gamble actively later. Yes, it will be unfair for the casino to ban your account but finaleshot2016 was talking about an account that's glaring that it belongs to a single person who also referral himself. Affiliation was intended to attract more active users to the platforms, hence it makes little sense to reward inactive accounts with benefits.
Players can be active or inactive, because of their fund for gambling or because of their issues in life. I can not find any term or condition that Roobet will freeze or ban accounts just because of inactivity. Terms and conditionsAn account that referral players to the site have the right to receive its rewards even when not active.
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October 28, 2021, 01:32:37 AM |
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I hope that gambling platforms have an algorithm that detects the same IP address
They always have tools to check IP address of users. Casinos are targets from cheaters and they have to protect themselves by powerful tools. Unless you are not violating any rules you would not face any problem but if you are found for something suspicious like funds manipulation then accounts are banned as they always monitor these IP related issues and try to use different for different accounts that will help you better. Having the same IP should not be a problem if there's a different user of that account, I mean if you're playing with your family and having the same internet connection that could be valid but if you have the same IP address that meant to violate the system, that could be a red flag to Roobet. I know they have this system to detect those with the same IP, its just that they still need to validate the connections of that accounts. You still have to consider this because you might also experience the same problem if you get caught, its actually hard to prove that you have a different user especially if you invite your friends or family under your affiliate. To avoid any problems, better to use data connections which can be different from every user, Roobet is also too strict with regards to this. When two different computers access the same site, they will have different IP. Maybe it looks like xxx.xxx.xxx.001 and xxx.xxx.xxx.002. So they will know if that user uses the same internet provider but uses a different computer because every computer has a different MacAddress and IP when connected to the internet. I am sure the casino will have the tools to identify if their user is the same or a different person who has the same locations. As long as we do not break their rules, I guess we will be okay and not get any problems. But using 2 accounts are already breaking rules , means the moment you use 2 accounts in same address you will be counted as cheater(Even if you have reason i.e your brother,cousin,friend is using the other account) but as long as you are in the same Internet then you will be marked as cheater. this will not reflect as long as you are palying with small wins or losing but once you found luck and wins big? there will be the issue to face. Best to contact the team if you need to create another account if there is a valid reason , but why need to have another account if the team can reset the password for you once you lose access . Indeed. That is why he needs to ask the site if that thing is allowed to him or he does not have to try to have 2 accounts, even if the other accounts are for his brother or cousin or friend. If he still creates another account on the gambling site but does not tell the support system, that will be a cheat and he can not do anything if both accounts are getting caught by the casino. That will impact us in the future if, coincidentally, one of our accounts wins much money but the rules say that we can not have 2 accounts. We should follow what the rule says if we do not want to get a problem in the future.
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October 28, 2021, 10:45:08 AM |
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There are many people who register for signup bonus and have some freerolls and then they stop playing because they were never interested to spend their own funds for it but some people don't care and will play without these bonuses also and if you have affiliate reference links to them you will also be in profits.So it all depends upon the person playing that how will be he gambling and for short term or long term if he is your referral.
^ The answer is on the line that I bolded below, promos and bonuses are a kind of a trap in most gambling casinos, once a gambler is lured and stays on the casino after spending bonuses, it means they like it. So gambling casinos find marketing strategies that can be their audience target like promotion, contest, affiliate, bonuses, and many more that gamblers will have an interest in and will probably stay because not the casino itself, it is also those I mentioned above. Nevertheless, Roobet knows this everything, and they have perfect marketing strategies they used we saw they are one of the fastest-growing casinos. Sometimes the site will offer you lucrative bonuses and deposit offers but the site might not be good and have so many withdrawal issues but in greed of small bonus you deposit your funds and get stuck there so always keep in mind to have proper research about the casino on which you want to play by reading reviews and small bets.I don't really go for these bonuses and only want the site to be legit and good.
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October 28, 2021, 01:36:24 PM |
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I don't really go for these bonuses and only want the site to be legit and good.
I can highly recommend the blog of BTCGosu.com (BTCGosu is the site of efialtis, who is also still very active here in the forum). BTCGosu evaluates gambling sites as objectively as possible and also posts regularly about meaningful bonus promotions or even has some themselves for the Gosu community, sometimes even promotions where you can withdraw the signup bonus immediately. Definitely worth a look!
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October 28, 2021, 01:41:58 PM |
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Indeed actions like this are quite difficult but I can't convince them to last long in the casino I offer on that link (this is outside the forum) unless I always give them winning pictures maybe they can last a long time and at first just take advantage of the signup bonus.
Unfortunately, something like this can also backfire relatively quickly. At the time, I wanted to convince a friend to join Crypto as well (BTC) and sent him screenshots of my Bullrun profits at the end of 2013. He then decided to invest as well, pretty much at the all-time high at the time. You can imagine what happened to his money and how many times he held it against me. We can laugh about it now, of course, but it was really unpleasant at the time. In my opinion, "attempts to convince" bring rather little and can also be very stressful for a friendship. At the time of convincing my crypto it was easier to recruit my friends to jump into this, indeed at first I was laughed at and continued to be ridiculed as long as I could convince my friends and in the end they are now more familiar with crypto and have become part of their opinion instead I glad friends became close because crypto is not stressful in friendship so far until now. But I'm honest, gambling is more difficult so I just enjoy myself in this game if someone says casino then I don't explain in more detail what I'm afraid of is addiction to the point of ruining friendship.
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I don't really go for these bonuses and only want the site to be legit and good.
I can highly recommend the blog of BTCGosu.com (BTCGosu is the site of efialtis, who is also still very active here in the forum). BTCGosu evaluates gambling sites as objectively as possible and also posts regularly about meaningful bonus promotions or even has some themselves for the Gosu community, sometimes even promotions where you can withdraw the signup bonus immediately. Definitely worth a look! I have known BTCGosu from a long time and knows that they are one of the most trusted and reputed gambling review site and i have referred to many of known ones to have a look at the site to have unbiased review of any casino they want here.Also they were having telegram channel which i think is now closed.
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When two different computers access the same site, they will have different IP. Maybe it looks like xxx.xxx.xxx.001 and xxx.xxx.xxx.002. So they will know if that user uses the same internet provider but uses a different computer because every computer has a different MacAddress and IP when connected to the internet. ~snip~ A different IP for each device only happens in the local network. If you are accessing any sites, the site will know your only IP address from the ISP. So there is no way when you access a website, and the IP address will be different if you are accessing it from the same network. And the site you are visiting only know your IP, not the MAC address. There's no such thing as website analytics that is able to gather the hardware MAC address.
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October 31, 2021, 11:04:31 PM |
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When two different computers access the same site, they will have different IP. Maybe it looks like xxx.xxx.xxx.001 and xxx.xxx.xxx.002. So they will know if that user uses the same internet provider but uses a different computer because every computer has a different MacAddress and IP when connected to the internet. ~snip~ A different IP for each device only happens in the local network. If you are accessing any sites, the site will know your only IP address from the ISP. So there is no way when you access a website, and the IP address will be different if you are accessing it from the same network. And the site you are visiting only know your IP, not the MAC address. There's no such thing as website analytics that is able to gather the hardware MAC address. That is right. From what I know, websites cannot find out the IP address or MAC address of a device on your local network. All they see is an external IP address assigned to you by your ISP. Although, there are other methods of device identification, such as browser fingerprinting. But that is another story.
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That is right. From what I know, websites cannot find out the IP address or MAC address of a device on your local network. All they see is an external IP address assigned to you by your ISP. Although, there are other methods of device identification, such as browser fingerprinting. But that is another story.
The different devices you use on the same WiFi will have different Private IP to determine which one is called but they will have the same public IP which is usually what the website and apps see when you open them as this is done to avoid any internal confusions.But simply people make use of VPN to bypass the external ip also and some other ways as you said.
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