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February 06, 2020, 05:46:33 AM
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Donald J Trump not running for any reason (primaried out, dead, impeached, etc) means a draw even if he wins via write-in.

Well, I guess we made it through that part.. Or is their much more "impeachment" to drag on as long as possible to use against Trump in the elections?
"acquitted"
What does this do to the odds?
"Trump is found "innocent" of quid for blow (whatever madeup charges were)"
Iowa screwing Bernie; igniting the extreme soc/com leftists to split the D..
Buttpirate VS Trump?
Biden burning in flames? (least insane of D's despite the fact that he makes out with his granddaughter on camera)
83% of independents approve of last presidential address..
Pelosi attentionwhores ripping paper..


You should sweeten the pot... a little salt always makes the stake taste better.

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February 06, 2020, 12:42:17 PM
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One "B" down (Joe "pervy paws" Biden), three "B"s remaining (Bernie, Buttigieg, Bloomberg).

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Pelosi attentionwhores ripping paper..

I agree, that was quite lame. Next year she should get a shredder.

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February 06, 2020, 12:46:10 PM
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So only one of the Republicans (Romney) voted to impeach the sitting President from 53 - making it a 48 to 52 failure to impeach.

If just 3 others managed to find any wrong doing then Trump would have removed from office. I guess they did not see anything wrong with the sitting US president speaking to his Ukrainian counterpart telling him that he needed to dig up dirt on a political opponent otherwise military aid (which it was due under NATO) would be delayed or postponed indefinitely. Removing the US ambassador to Ukraine after she kicked up a fuss about the blackmail and did not want to be a part of it, also probably does not constitute wrong doing in the eyes of the other 52 Republican party representatives.

Oh well... Let us see what happens in November when the elections take place.



Well, I guess we made it through that part.. Or is their much more "impeachment" to drag on as long as possible to use against Trump in the elections?
"acquitted"
What does this do to the odds?
"Trump is found "innocent" of quid for blow (whatever madeup charges were)"
Iowa screwing Bernie; igniting the extreme soc/com leftists to split the D..
Buttpirate VS Trump?
Biden burning in flames? (least insane of D's despite the fact that he makes out with his granddaughter on camera)
83% of independents approve of last presidential address..
Pelosi attentionwhores ripping paper..


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February 06, 2020, 12:54:19 PM
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So only one of the Republicans (Romney) voted to impeach the sitting President from 53 - making it a 48 to 52 failure to impeach.

If just 3 others managed to find any wrong doing then Trump would have removed from office.

No, it takes 2/3 so ~20 Republicans would need to flip.

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February 06, 2020, 01:02:17 PM
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Ah yes, I forgot about that. Having a simple 51-49 majority would not work because that would be undemocratic so the 2/3rds minimum would be required.

No, it takes 2/3 so ~20 Republicans would need to flip.

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February 06, 2020, 04:03:41 PM
 #146

Donald J Trump not running for any reason (primaried out, dead, impeached, etc) means a draw even if he wins via write-in.

Well, I guess we made it through that part.. Or is their much more "impeachment" to drag on as long as possible to use against Trump in the elections?

Gerald Nadler isn't satisfied, he's still trying to dig up dirt.  Now he's going back to the Kavanaugh nomination and FBI investigation to grasp at more straws.

Pelosi attentionwhores ripping paper..
I agree, that was quite lame. Next year she should get a shredder.

She sure can be a petty, petulant brat.  I wish they would all grow up and put their hatred aside.  In his SOTU address Trump said, (I'll paraphrase) the only victories that matter in Washington are those that deliver for the American people.  I think he was specifically talking about his aquittal, but that's as close as he got to mentioning the impeachment effort, which was obviously wrought with partisan bias. 

I think that paper ripping antic sealed Trump's eddie13's victory.  @suchmoon, you might as well pay up now.   Tongue

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February 06, 2020, 05:22:39 PM
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I think that paper ripping antic sealed Trump's eddie13's victory.  @suchmoon, you might as well pay up now.   Tongue

Pffftttt... I got three candidates, maybe three and a half, against one. Obviously I'm winning.

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February 06, 2020, 05:44:07 PM
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maybe three and a half

What Bloomberg lacks in height he makes up for in arrogance, so I'll give you four.  Despite the fact that you still have four(ish) candidates, Trump will triumph.

Will Bernie get the DNC nomination?  I think they're doing everything they can to cheat him out of the Iowa delegates.  The DNC knows they'll never beat Trump with a socialist as their nominee.  But it's looking like that's the way it's going to go.  I really don't see any alternative at this point, not even Alfred E. Neuman.

 

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February 06, 2020, 06:02:54 PM
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I don't know... based on looks I'd go with Pete I think.

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February 06, 2020, 06:23:30 PM
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Those comparisons made me chuckle. Have no idea if the doll or the corn is better  Grin




I don't know... based on looks I'd go with Pete I think.

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February 06, 2020, 06:25:49 PM
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Ah yes, I forgot about that. Having a simple 51-49 majority would not work because that would be undemocratic so the 2/3rds minimum would be required.

No, it takes 2/3 so ~20 Republicans would need to flip.

Well, this isn't a simple vote mate. ''For criminal trials, nearly every state requires the jury to produce a unanimous verdict.'' So, normally, it's not 2/3, it's everyone or nothing.
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February 07, 2020, 08:37:13 AM
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Ah yes, I forgot about that. Having a simple 51-49 majority would not work because that would be undemocratic so the 2/3rds minimum would be required.

No, it takes 2/3 so ~20 Republicans would need to flip.

Well, this isn't a simple vote mate. ''For criminal trials, nearly every state requires the jury to produce a unanimous verdict.'' So, normally, it's not 2/3, it's everyone or nothing.

Our criminal justice system is based on a system designed to find 10 guilty men Not Guilty for every one innocent man found Guilty.  In reality it's more like 100 -1, especially for people who can afford a good lawyer.

A Senate trial is not a criminal trial, and someone who is convicted and removed is still explicitly considered innocent of any crime until found guilty in a criminal trial.

If it were a real criminal trial, literally every Senator would be removed from the jury before the trial even started.

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I don't know... based on looks I'd go with Pete I think.

I disagree.  Based on attractiveness, you may have a point.  I can't say for sure because I'm heterosexual, and neither are capable of making me switch teams. 

But there's something else in their looks that would encourage me to pick Trump.  It's that "deer in the headlights" look in Pete's eyes, and the "wolf on the hunt" look in Trump's.  The two's track record would suggest something in their personalities correlates with "the look."

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February 07, 2020, 04:34:39 PM
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I don't know... based on looks I'd go with Pete I think.

I disagree.  Based on attractiveness, you may have a point.  I can't say for sure because I'm heterosexual, and neither are capable of making me switch teams.  

But there's something else in their looks that would encourage me to pick Trump.  It's that "deer in the headlights" look in Pete's eyes, and the "wolf on the hunt" look in Trump's.  The two's track record would suggest something in their personalities correlates with "the look."

Other than being the same gender, Pete is pretty much the opposite of trump in every other way, at least more so than any other candidate imo.

Wealth, Hair, Age, Stature, Military History, Sexual Orientation,  Personality, Intelligence

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February 11, 2020, 11:07:47 PM
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Other than being the same gender, Pete is pretty much the opposite of trump in every other way, at least more so than any other candidate imo.

Wealth, Hair, Age, Stature, Military History, Sexual Orientation,  Personality, Intelligence

...track record.  Roll Eyes

Even a liberal rag like the LA Times can't ignore, omit, or hide his failed policies and how they affected South Bend, Indiana while he was mayor for the last 8 years.  Of course they desperately attempt to whitewash his failures by crediting him with successes on which a mayor has absolutely no impact.

If you plan on making your choice based on the attributes you listed, I would suggest you deserve the government you get: A political party full of petty, petulant, corrupt, career politicians who'll make every effort to thwart the American Citizen in order to gain political favor with those who are not American Citizens.

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February 12, 2020, 12:29:48 AM
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The Democratic nominee selection still has a lot of time to run but I think Biden for one is no longer suitable to stand as a presidential candidate not so much because of his age but because of his personality. The same has to go for Sanders.

As for Pete Buttigieg, I do not see anything charismatic when I look of him (or Trump for that matter) but is he really the best the Democrats can do to try and beat Trump in November?

"Deer in the headlights" sounds about right for Pete. Does anybody know how to pronounce his surname? Is it "Butt-igg-ejj" or "Buttig-eeg" or something else?






I don't know... based on looks I'd go with Pete I think.

I disagree.  Based on attractiveness, you may have a point.  I can't say for sure because I'm heterosexual, and neither are capable of making me switch teams.  

But there's something else in their looks that would encourage me to pick Trump.  It's that "deer in the headlights" look in Pete's eyes, and the "wolf on the hunt" look in Trump's.  The two's track record would suggest something in their personalities correlates with "the look."

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February 12, 2020, 12:48:20 AM
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Does anybody know how to pronounce his surname? Is it "Butt-igg-ejj" or "Buttig-eeg" or something else?

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There's an audio link on the Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buttigieg

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February 12, 2020, 12:53:40 AM
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 Grin

Thank you. A couple of days ago I never heard of this man and now his name is in the media prominently so nice to know how to pronounce it.


Does anybody know how to pronounce his surname? Is it "Butt-igg-ejj" or "Buttig-eeg" or something else?

boot-ej-ej

There's an audio link on the Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buttigieg

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February 27, 2020, 09:41:56 PM
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If Trump quarantines everyone and postpones the election - it's a draw. Just thought I'd make that clear in advance Smiley

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What about another scenario, maybe a bit too realistic. If he thought he was going to lose the election in November 2020 or if he won re-election but say two or three years in to his final term - would you put it past him to start a war either by provoking any state (so-called enemy state or other) in to taking action or simply by taking action himself by attacking another country?

Any such scenario could invoke a Franklin D. Roosevelt style of remaining in office for the duration of the war and beyond so would Trump be tempted to go down that line?

If Trump quarantines everyone and postpones the election - it's a draw. Just thought I'd make that clear in advance Smiley

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