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April 18, 2014, 07:50:51 AM |
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How many did they ship and how many have had problems? I know in the case of the S1, they shipped a lot, and there were constantly people on here reporting problems, yet I ordered over a dozen and had no problems with any of them. You do definitely give up something in quality control when you buy a cheaper product, but in this commodity space, the cheaper product also gives you a major competitive advantage (as the buyer). I'm not happy with the SD corruption issue, that one may still bite me. Spare SD on hand, but I haven't imaged it yet. |
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April 18, 2014, 07:52:43 AM |
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How many did they ship and how many have had problems? I know in the case of the S1, they shipped a lot, and there were constantly people on here reporting problems, yet I ordered over a dozen and had no problems with any of them. You do definitely give up something in quality control when you buy a cheaper product, but in this commodity space, the cheaper product also gives you a major competitive advantage (as the buyer). I'm not happy with the SD corruption issue, that one may still bite me. Spare SD on hand, but I haven't imaged it yet. They rushed to ship with the S2, without minimum QA. They did much better job with the S1. |
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April 18, 2014, 07:56:32 AM |
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How many did they ship and how many have had problems? I know in the case of the S1, they shipped a lot, and there were constantly people on here reporting problems, yet I ordered over a dozen and had no problems with any of them. You do definitely give up something in quality control when you buy a cheaper product, but in this commodity space, the cheaper product also gives you a major competitive advantage (as the buyer). I'm not happy with the SD corruption issue, that one may still bite me. Spare SD on hand, but I haven't imaged it yet. They rushed to ship with the S2, without minimum QA. They did much better job with the S1. Rushing adds value. Time to market is also a major competitive advantage for the buyer. The same product delivered two weeks later is worth about 15% less. Time pressure is intense here. Getting it "right," but too late, is still getting it wrong. |
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April 18, 2014, 07:58:38 AM |
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How many did they ship and how many have had problems? I know in the case of the S1, they shipped a lot, and there were constantly people on here reporting problems, yet I ordered over a dozen and had no problems with any of them. You do definitely give up something in quality control when you buy a cheaper product, but in this commodity space, the cheaper product also gives you a major competitive advantage (as the buyer). I'm not happy with the SD corruption issue, that one may still bite me. Spare SD on hand, but I haven't imaged it yet. They rushed to ship with the S2, without minimum QA. They did much better job with the S1. Rushing adds value. Time to market is also a major competitive advantage for the buyer. The same product delivered two weeks later is worth about 15% less. Time pressure is intense here. Getting it "right," but too late, is still getting it wrong. Assuming you're not one of the poor buyers who got defective unit. |
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April 18, 2014, 08:02:31 AM |
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Rushing adds value. Time to market is also a major competitive advantage for the buyer. The same product delivered two weeks later is worth about 15% less. Time pressure is intense here. Getting it "right," but too late, is still getting it wrong.
Assuming you're not one of the poor buyers who got defective unit. Until we know the actual failure rate I will reserve judgement. 2 weeks earlier with a 15% failure rate is much better than breaking even, because most of those machines likely get fixed or replaced. It would be a break even if they all turned out to be a total loss, which I highly doubt. |
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April 18, 2014, 08:03:54 AM |
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I don't want to clutter your thread with competitor comparisons, so I'll just stick with evaluating your offering. You may be making a nice profit on each SP10, but your customers won't at the current prices. Here, take a look: Mining Calculator. Those "~20 days" are enough to kill any chance at a profit. I'm calculating similar situations. Even if i mine in May and sell it in June, i make 2-3 BTC and i have to sell it for the June price: -1k$ German customs eat up another 19% to the price and power 38$ Cent/kwh is just to expensive. (Don't added cooling... It's summer soon!) https://coinplorer.com/Hardware/Simulate/5350dbbc57ac900474a75f4a?key=959a0f8d-ac93-4066-ad9f-17caec11d720As much as i want one (or more), i find no profitable calculation for me here in my 38 cent/kwh +19% customs country. |
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April 18, 2014, 08:11:47 AM |
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I don't want to clutter your thread with competitor comparisons, so I'll just stick with evaluating your offering. You may be making a nice profit on each SP10, but your customers won't at the current prices. Here, take a look: Mining Calculator. Those "~20 days" are enough to kill any chance at a profit. I'm calculating similar situations. Even if i mine in May and sell it in June, i make 2-3 BTC and i have to sell it for the June price: -1k$ German customs eat up another 19% to the price and power 38$ Cent/kwh is just to expensive. (Don't added cooling... It's summer soon!) https://coinplorer.com/Hardware/Simulate/5350dbbc57ac900474a75f4a?key=959a0f8d-ac93-4066-ad9f-17caec11d720As much as i want one (or more), i find no profitable calculation for me here in my 38 cent/kwh +19% customs country. Wow...$0.38/KWh...FORGET it...  It is cheaper for you to host them...I guess... |
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April 18, 2014, 08:15:16 AM |
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I don't want to clutter your thread with competitor comparisons, so I'll just stick with evaluating your offering. You may be making a nice profit on each SP10, but your customers won't at the current prices. Here, take a look: Mining Calculator. Those "~20 days" are enough to kill any chance at a profit. I'm calculating similar situations. Even if i mine in May and sell it in June, i make 2-3 BTC and i have to sell it for the June price: -1k$ German customs eat up another 19% to the price and power 38$ Cent/kwh is just to expensive. (Don't added cooling... It's summer soon!) https://coinplorer.com/Hardware/Simulate/5350dbbc57ac900474a75f4a?key=959a0f8d-ac93-4066-ad9f-17caec11d720As much as i want one (or more), i find no profitable calculation for me here in my 38 cent/kwh +19% customs country. Wow...$0.38/KWh...FORGET it... It is cheaper for you to host them...I guess... Yes, hosting in Israel came out to something like 25c/kwh, and no shipping or VAT. |
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April 18, 2014, 08:19:06 AM |
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Wow...$0.38/KWh...FORGET it... It is cheaper for you to host them...I guess... Not in germany. If i host it here i'll pay the same as at home but i'll get professional cooling and added setup/monthly cost.  "thanks obama merkel"  |
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April 18, 2014, 08:26:32 AM |
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Wow...$0.38/KWh...FORGET it... It is cheaper for you to host them...I guess... Not in germany. If i host it here i'll pay the same as at home but i'll get professional cooling and added setup/monthly cost. "thanks obama merkel" It's not Obama's fault,I dislike him myself,it's ASICminer/KNC/MEGAbigpower & a few other massive farms reaping in millions that is killing mining for Anyone who's small time...............  I see the end before 2014 is over for "average joe" home miner,like myself,even altcoins are going to "farms"  |
"If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day long, you are the asshole." -Raylan Givens Got GOXXED ?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KiqRpPiJAU&feature=youtu.be"An ASIC being late is perfectly normal, predictable, and legal..."Hashfast & BFL slogan  |
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Guy Corem (OP)
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April 18, 2014, 08:33:46 AM |
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I don't want to clutter your thread with competitor comparisons, so I'll just stick with evaluating your offering. You may be making a nice profit on each SP10, but your customers won't at the current prices. Here, take a look: Mining Calculator. Those "~20 days" are enough to kill any chance at a profit. I'm calculating similar situations. Even if i mine in May and sell it in June, i make 2-3 BTC and i have to sell it for the June price: -1k$ German customs eat up another 19% to the price and power 38$ Cent/kwh is just to expensive. (Don't added cooling... It's summer soon!) https://coinplorer.com/Hardware/Simulate/5350dbbc57ac900474a75f4a?key=959a0f8d-ac93-4066-ad9f-17caec11d720As much as i want one (or more), i find no profitable calculation for me here in my 38 cent/kwh +19% customs country. Contact us regarding customs |
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April 18, 2014, 09:25:29 AM |
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Wow...$0.38/KWh...FORGET it... It is cheaper for you to host them...I guess... Not in germany. If i host it here i'll pay the same as at home but i'll get professional cooling and added setup/monthly cost. "thanks obama merkel" It's not Obama's fault,I dislike him myself,it's ASICminer/KNC/MEGAbigpower & a few other massive farms reaping in millions that is killing mining for Anyone who's small time............... I see the end before 2014 is over for "average joe" home miner,like myself,even altcoins are going to "farms" +1 The only way to prolong the fun is to group and collectivize make it more like a hobby club. There seems to be a lot of movement that way seen quite a few posts asking people to come together and share resources at city level / regional level. |
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April 18, 2014, 09:31:50 AM |
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April 18, 2014, 03:18:17 PM |
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New Shipping rates for the SP10s! We are happy to announce that following the completion of the April batch, having shipped out many units and with plans to start shipping the May batch, we were able to secure a new and improved shipping rate. The new shipping price is $193 for any country in the world that we ship to. In addition for those who order 6 SP10 May bundles or more, shipping will be free! |
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April 18, 2014, 03:33:37 PM |
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Interesting news on the group buy and GREAT news on the improved shipping costs... @Spondoolies-Tech -- are you simply trying to shift risk to Roadstress? Why buy direct at $11,995 when I can (potentially) at $4995 from the group buy? Sadly they were not as aggressive on a bulk SP10 proposal  |
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April 18, 2014, 03:37:13 PM |
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New Shipping rates for the SP10s! We are happy to announce that following the completion of the April batch, having shipped out many units and with plans to start shipping the May batch, we were able to secure a new and improved shipping rate. The new shipping price is $193 for any country in the world that we ship to. In addition for those who order 6 SP10 May bundles or more, shipping will be free!Would it be possible to have a group buy for the May batch? I'm talking about something similar to the speacial easter/pesach for SP30 offer above. |
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April 18, 2014, 04:33:42 PM |
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Interesting news on the group buy and GREAT news on the improved shipping costs... @Spondoolies-Tech -- are you simply trying to shift risk to Roadstress? Why buy direct at $11,995 when I can (potentially) at $4995 from the group buy? Sadly they were not as aggressive on a bulk SP10 proposal We're not trying to shift any risk. We're fully supporting RoadStress buy group effort. |
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April 18, 2014, 04:34:48 PM |
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New Shipping rates for the SP10s! We are happy to announce that following the completion of the April batch, having shipped out many units and with plans to start shipping the May batch, we were able to secure a new and improved shipping rate. The new shipping price is $193 for any country in the world that we ship to. In addition for those who order 6 SP10 May bundles or more, shipping will be free!Would it be possible to have a group buy for the May batch? I'm talking about something similar to the speacial easter/pesach for SP30 offer above. Come up with a proposal, send to sales@spondoolies-tech.comWe're not committing though. |
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April 18, 2014, 04:39:07 PM |
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Interesting news on the group buy and GREAT news on the improved shipping costs... @Spondoolies-Tech -- are you simply trying to shift risk to Roadstress? Why buy direct at $11,995 when I can (potentially) at $4995 from the group buy?Sadly they were not as aggressive on a bulk SP10 proposal We're not trying to shift any risk. We're fully supporting RoadStress buy group effort. OK, and kudos for the distributing the hash rate mantra, but to the latter question... Will you answer that one for me please? |
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