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May 13, 2014, 12:47:18 AM
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so im a home miner, purchased both the SP30 and SP10 group buys (thank you Spondoolies-Tech and RoadStress) , definitely not an electrician so maybe you guys can answer this for me..

im reading everywhere that we want 220V 30amp to run our sp30s, ive got an outlet pretty much 4 feet below my breaker box that i will probably get an electrician to flange me up the 220V / 30A with but since there are going to be two PSU's and two power cables, what if a person ran one to an outlet on its own 120V / 15A and the other to another separate 120V / 15A. If i could dedicate these outlets for only running an SP30 would it power it to its fullest? Would have to run a heavy duty extension cord from one of the outlets.

or should i stick with the electrician route? im not opposed to paying to have this done, just curious about everything and anything.

You will be good with a 30 amp 220, you can draw more than 6000 watts from that and your PSU's will stay cooler and run more efficient. Just get yourself a 30amp PDU and some c13-c14 power cables to connect your PSU to the PDU and you're golden. PDU is a fancy name for a big ass power bar. Make sure the outlet you install matches up to the plug type on the PDU you buy.

Most are Nema L6, and this is what the outlet looks like. http://www.grainger.com/product/LEVITON-Receptacle-1PKK1

The best deals on outlets and PDU's are on eBay by far. That $40 outlet can be found for $12 and PDU's for under $80.

That is not a good idea.  You should not put more than 80% load on a circuit, and particularly be cautious of the voltage (a 220V connection may drop to ~210V under high load, thus drawing more amps). An L6-30 outlet is typically rated for 4.992kW continuous load.


I was considering combining two 120v/15a cicuits into one 240v/30a circuit, but found out that my house is wired (mostly) with 14 gauge wire.
The electrician told me that this wire cannot handle more than 20-25A. 12 gauge wire 25-30A.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_wire_gauge

spondoolies-tech: can you post approximate power usage of sp30 at 120v (will two 15a circuits work for max constant 25A) and 240V?
Yeah you want 10/2 wire for 30 amp 240v.
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May 13, 2014, 09:43:08 AM
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The last difficulty adjust was the lowest in almost a whole year, since June 2013. Maybe we will reach a plateau before SP30 ships?

That's that I was thinking too. Besides Ants and SP10s is there anyone else shipping in big numbers?

KNC may start shipping neptunes any day now, they taped out in february.

There is no single indication about that.

Yes there is: The fact that they taped out in february. Chip fab only takes so long, it's been three month so they could receive the chips any day now. They have everything else ready, last fall they only needed a couple of weeks or so from they received the chips to when they started shipments.

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May 13, 2014, 09:46:08 AM
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Is it any solid evidence they taped out in Feburary?

I am sorry if I miss it somewhere, it is a huge KNC thread.

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The last difficulty adjust was the lowest in almost a whole year, since June 2013. Maybe we will reach a plateau before SP30 ships?

That's that I was thinking too. Besides Ants and SP10s is there anyone else shipping in big numbers?

KNC may start shipping neptunes any day now, they taped out in february.

There is no single indication about that.

Yes there is: The fact that they taped out in february. Chip fab only takes so long, it's been three month so they could receive the chips any day now. They have everything else ready, last fall they only needed a couple of weeks or so from they received the chips to when they started shipments.

Why do we discuss KNC at our thread ?

The facts:

1) They've TO at the beginning of March, not February. Don't believe everything you read in a press release
2) 20nm with double patterning takes 4-5 months for masks creations

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May 13, 2014, 09:47:47 AM
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Right, sorry for opening up such discussion.

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May 13, 2014, 01:54:28 PM
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This was probably covered at some point, but it is difficult to look through 94 pages:

What is the projected power usage for SP-30 (for 120 and 240V)? I am in US.
I don't want to order it and then struggle to run it.
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May 13, 2014, 02:20:52 PM
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This was probably covered at some point, but it is difficult to look through 94 pages:

What is the projected power usage for SP-30 (for 120 and 240V)? I am in US.
I don't want to order it and then struggle to run it.
2500 - 2700, under clocked will be possible.
We offer hosting plan in the US

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May 13, 2014, 02:50:33 PM
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This was probably covered at some point, but it is difficult to look through 94 pages:

What is the projected power usage for SP-30 (for 120 and 240V)? I am in US.
I don't want to order it and then struggle to run it.
2500 - 2700, under clocked will be possible.
We offer hosting plan in the US

Hosting plan in US-is this $1200/3mo? I remember seeing something re WA, but only for people with =>30 SP-30.
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May 13, 2014, 02:53:00 PM
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This was probably covered at some point, but it is difficult to look through 94 pages:

What is the projected power usage for SP-30 (for 120 and 240V)? I am in US.
I don't want to order it and then struggle to run it.
2500 - 2700, under clocked will be possible.
We offer hosting plan in the US

Hosting plan in US-is this $1200/3mo? I remember seeing something re WA, but only for people with =>30 SP-30.
WA hosting plan was posted somewhere for 290$ per month, 6 month commitment, 100$ setup cost.

This will be only available come summer, until now spondoolies can only help people with large orders get to DCs in the US.
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May 13, 2014, 02:59:03 PM
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This was probably covered at some point, but it is difficult to look through 94 pages:

What is the projected power usage for SP-30 (for 120 and 240V)? I am in US.
I don't want to order it and then struggle to run it.
2500 - 2700, under clocked will be possible.
We offer hosting plan in the US

Hosting plan in US-is this $1200/3mo? I remember seeing something re WA, but only for people with =>30 SP-30.
WA hosting plan was posted somewhere for 290$ per month, 6 month commitment, 100$ setup cost.

This will be only available come summer, until now spondoolies can only help people with large orders get to DCs in the US.

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May 13, 2014, 03:31:55 PM
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This was probably covered at some point, but it is difficult to look through 94 pages:

What is the projected power usage for SP-30 (for 120 and 240V)? I am in US.
I don't want to order it and then struggle to run it.
2500 - 2700, under clocked will be possible.
We offer hosting plan in the US

Hosting plan in US-is this $1200/3mo? I remember seeing something re WA, but only for people with =>30 SP-30.
WA hosting plan was posted somewhere for 290$ per month, 6 month commitment, 100$ setup cost.

This will be only available come summer, until now spondoolies can only help people with large orders get to DCs in the US.

I have plenty of hosting available, SP10/30, no time minimum and no setup costs.
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May 13, 2014, 03:33:39 PM
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Black Arrow ships this week.  Today possibly.  They also shipped off a bunch of chips to third parties.

BFL is in their two-weeks mode but I think it's a safe bet they ship soon.  They are just down to software optimization now.  

Activemining's chips were sent to Rockminer and they are shipping now.

And then, you know, KNC before the sun burns out...  

So I wouldn't think a plateau.  I think it's about to spike.  

Youre joking right ? I canclled an order for 10 x1 black arrows and an X3 all batch one.. still waiting on a refund though

what do you mean they ship this week? from what i heard they still have not finished case design and cooling.

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May 13, 2014, 03:38:32 PM
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Isn´t there a BA thread somewhere?
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May 13, 2014, 03:39:40 PM
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Isn´t there a BA thread somewhere?

i believe it to be so but often some whinging spills over - like when someone says they will deliver in February, and ... oh, what do you mean it's May already?

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May 13, 2014, 04:06:57 PM
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Youre joking right ? I canclled an order for 10 x1 black arrows and an X3 all batch one.. still waiting on a refund though

what do you mean they ship this week? from what i heard they still have not finished case design and cooling.

There is a thread.  X1's are waiting on cases and are looking at another week or two.  X3's are shipping at any moment.  Bobsag3 is there and reporting on the situation.  They announced the chip specs at 200gh at 150watts at the wall even with some induction leakage.  So 1th is 750watts at the wall. 

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May 13, 2014, 04:15:26 PM
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Youre joking right ? I canclled an order for 10 x1 black arrows and an X3 all batch one.. still waiting on a refund though

what do you mean they ship this week? from what i heard they still have not finished case design and cooling.

There is a thread.  X1's are waiting on cases and are looking at another week or two.  X3's are shipping at any moment.  Bobsag3 is there and reporting on the situation.  They announced the chip specs at 200gh at 150watts at the wall even with some induction leakage.  So 1th is 750watts at the wall.  

wrong thread dude.  Cool

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May 13, 2014, 04:35:33 PM
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I know.  We've been having a conversation about other vendors in relation to how the hashrate will be when Spondoolies releases their SP30 in August.  So by pointing out that BA, KNC, and others are shipping we're discussing the profit potential of the SP30.

Of course now instead of bashing the other companies that some of them are shipping, you don't want to hear about it.  Whatever...

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May 13, 2014, 04:46:36 PM
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I know.  We've been having a conversation about other vendors in relation to how the hashrate will be when Spondoolies releases their SP30 in August.  So by pointing out that BA, KNC, and others are shipping we're discussing the profit potential of the SP30.

Of course now instead of bashing the other companies that some of them are shipping, you don't want to hear about it.  Whatever...

Its a valid discussion in my mind, at this point it won't change my pre-order for the sp30s I ordered but it hopefully it illustrates (not like you guys don't already know) the importance of a timely delivery on your 28nm hardware.  If it is delayed to NOV DEC we will be in bad shape.  Not saying it will happen though.

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May 13, 2014, 04:48:49 PM
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I know.  We've been having a conversation about other vendors in relation to how the hashrate will be when Spondoolies releases their SP30 in August.  So by pointing out that BA, KNC, and others are shipping we're discussing the profit potential of the SP30.

Of course now instead of bashing the other companies that some of them are shipping, you don't want to hear about it.  Whatever...

Its a valid discussion in my mind, at this point it won't change my pre-order for the sp30s I ordered but it hopefully it illustrates (not like you guys don't already know) the importance of a timely delivery on your 28nm hardware.  If it is delayed to NOV DEC we will be in bad shape.  Not saying it will happen though.

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May 13, 2014, 05:12:51 PM
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I know.  We've been having a conversation about other vendors in relation to how the hashrate will be when Spondoolies releases their SP30 in August.  So by pointing out that BA, KNC, and others are shipping we're discussing the profit potential of the SP30.

Of course now instead of bashing the other companies that some of them are shipping, you don't want to hear about it.  Whatever...

Its a valid discussion in my mind, at this point it won't change my pre-order for the sp30s I ordered but it hopefully it illustrates (not like you guys don't already know) the importance of a timely delivery on your 28nm hardware.  If it is delayed to NOV DEC we will be in bad shape.  Not saying it will happen though.

Of course your welcome to your opinion(s) so I will express mine, I disagree, I don't think it is a "valid discussion". Who cares what the completion is speculating. I don't need to be updated here about it specially if the information that is hearsay/secondhand. Should I want info on the completion I go hunt it down on there forums. No?

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