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April 25, 2014, 11:03:41 AM |
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are you not afraid to burn tablets etc which are fanless ?
A good implementation should handle this Also this is about the ARM servers and PC's of the future Ok that's really nice u should also consider to make GRS a POS 3% or something, best algo + pos hype = win = next sheet It has been discussed. As somebody mentioned earlier the PoS thing certainly is "fashionable" atm. I dont give a flying f*ck about fashion. Switching to PoS could mean losing our individuality imo Oh - and did I mention…? Im loving the cyphermonk feeling I get from mining pure PoW Groestl.
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April 25, 2014, 11:07:07 AM |
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the PoS thing certainly is "fashionable" atm. I dont give a flying f*ck about fashion.
this should be in bold. I don't give a flying f*ck about fashion.there, I fixed it
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April 25, 2014, 11:28:48 AM |
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are you not afraid to burn tablets etc which are fanless ?
A good implementation should handle this Also this is about the ARM servers and PC's of the future And also this algo doesn't produce mutch heat, does it?
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alinutu78
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April 25, 2014, 12:28:12 PM |
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Why so low price?
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child_harold
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April 25, 2014, 12:52:14 PM |
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Why so low price? because GRS is grossly undervalued atm. We have this unique algo that can be AES accelerated = reduced efficiency gaps between platforms = good performance on wide range of platforms = ultimate PoW. What we are "selling" is more subtle than most coins and the market will take longer to appreciate its awesomeness and significance for all of crypto mining Democratizing Mining | AES Accelerated | Ultimate PoW
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FiR3
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April 25, 2014, 12:55:09 PM |
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alinutu78, need I show the „dumpers” meme again? părerea mea e să stai pe-aproape și să minezi cât e încă ușor de făcut rost
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April 25, 2014, 01:01:19 PM |
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alinutu78, need I show the „dumpers” meme again? părerea mea e să stai pe-aproape și să minezi cât e încă ușor de făcut rost
I wont stop mining...just wondering about dumpers multumesc frumos
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April 25, 2014, 01:23:00 PM |
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Why so low price? At this time, marketing is more important than the technical maturity Miners not interested the possibility of mining on ARM / CPU, less power consumption, but what is the current profit.
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child_harold
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April 25, 2014, 02:48:23 PM |
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Good performance on many platforms https://online.tugraz.at/tug_online/voe_main2.getvolltext?pCurrPk=58179To quote from the conclusion: In this work we have proposed two optimized algorithms for MixBytes, the MDS mixing layer ofGrøstl, which allow to speed up Grøstlon on various platforms. Furthermore, byte slicing provides the possibility to parallelize the Grøstl computation if the registers are large enough and parallel AES S-box table lookups are available. This is the case for Intel processors including the new AES instructions set or in general, using the vpaes implementation. Both implementations show that Grøstl can be implemented efficiently on very different platforms.Democratizing Mining
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child_harold
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April 25, 2014, 03:24:28 PM Last edit: April 25, 2014, 03:35:53 PM by child_harold |
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I tried the apk on my galaxy nexus gsm:
Groestlhash: 10.4264 KH/s
So these initial benchmarks are getting ~10KH/thread So would a 2 core ARM chip support 4 threads i.e. 40KH/s ? Now I m sure we're gonna end up with much more than 10KH/s per thread. Even at this early stage the power efficiencies are interesting. Im gonna make a big assumption but if 4 cores > 8 threads @10KH/thread = 80kH R9290 150w ~9000 KH/s Cortex A9 1.9W ~80 KH/s --->> so theoretically 190w required to push 8000kH/s So even at this early stage (permitting my assumptions about multi-thread performance are true) the Cortex is only ~30% less power efficient (hashrate/watts) then an R9290 Optimizations leading to 15kH/s or 20KH/s per thread or more should mean the Cortex A9 is more power efficient than the AMD GPU. These new Cortex-A17 procs (2014) seems considerably more powerrful than the A9
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April 25, 2014, 05:00:10 PM |
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Good performance on many platforms https://online.tugraz.at/tug_online/voe_main2.getvolltext?pCurrPk=58179To quote from the conclusion: In this work we have proposed two optimized algorithms for MixBytes, the MDS mixing layer ofGrøstl, which allow to speed up Grøstlon on various platforms. Furthermore, byte slicing provides the possibility to parallelize the Grøstl computation if the registers are large enough and parallel AES S-box table lookups are available. This is the case for Intel processors including the new AES instructions set or in general, using the vpaes implementation. Both implementations show that Grøstl can be implemented efficiently on very different platforms.Democratizing MiningYes. But just remember - this is only going to help narrow the gap somewhat compared to SHA256. A really good GPU implementation is still likely to be, say, 8-16x better than a CPU implementation in hashes/second/$. An ASIC implementation will have a very big gap. (None of the GPU implementations are any good yet compared to what they should be, at least, until C&C release theirs.) So don't make too many strong claims about how democratized it will be. It's better than Bitcoin's algorithm. Whether or not it's better than, say, Momentum, is an interesting question.
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MinerSVK
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April 25, 2014, 05:02:28 PM |
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WOW, MINTPAL, what a stupid choice, you will get nothing more than dumpers! GRS will be dead like HIRO.
Remember this day, It is the day when died Tito Vilanova and GRS follows him..
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child_harold
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April 25, 2014, 05:06:03 PM |
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Good performance on many platforms https://online.tugraz.at/tug_online/voe_main2.getvolltext?pCurrPk=58179To quote from the conclusion: In this work we have proposed two optimized algorithms for MixBytes, the MDS mixing layer ofGrøstl, which allow to speed up Grøstlon on various platforms. Furthermore, byte slicing provides the possibility to parallelize the Grøstl computation if the registers are large enough and parallel AES S-box table lookups are available. This is the case for Intel processors including the new AES instructions set or in general, using the vpaes implementation. Both implementations show that Grøstl can be implemented efficiently on very different platforms.Democratizing MiningYes. But just remember - this is only going to help narrow the gap somewhat compared to SHA256. A really good GPU implementation is still likely to be, say, 8-16x better than a CPU implementation in hashes/second/$. An ASIC implementation will have a very big gap. (None of the GPU implementations are any good yet compared to what they should be, at least, until C&C release theirs.) So don't make too many strong claims about how democratized it will be. It's better than Bitcoin's algorithm. Whether or not it's better than, say, Momentum, is an interesting question. Hence democratizing… not democratized
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child_harold
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April 25, 2014, 05:08:24 PM |
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WOW, MINTPAL, what a stupid choice, you will get nothing more than dumpers! GRS will be dead like HIRO.
Remember this day, It is the day when died Tito Vilanova and GRS follows him.. the patient cyphermonks of Groestl will not be swayed by shits called Dumpers.
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April 25, 2014, 05:11:53 PM |
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WOW, MINTPAL, what a stupid choice, you will get nothing more than dumpers! GRS will be dead like HIRO.
Remember this day, It is the day when died Tito Vilanova and GRS follows him.. the patient cyphermonks of Groestl will not be swayed by shits called Dumpers. have to sell out the first batch of miners
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April 25, 2014, 05:30:15 PM |
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WOW, MINTPAL, what a stupid choice, you will get nothing more than dumpers! GRS will be dead like HIRO.
Remember this day, It is the day when died Tito Vilanova and GRS follows him.. the patient cyphermonks of Groestl will not be swayed by shits called Dumpers. It reminds me of coffee divination self-appointed preachers
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