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January 05, 2024, 02:30:27 PM
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Losing Mbappe would cost PSG really a lot by the way. He is like their everything at the moment. In his absence I don't know how consistent and powerful PSG can be. They have made a good transfers for the future maybe but these new players will need to take their time to adapt and improve their skills to create a solid team.

In case of Mbappe's leaving maybe PSG would look for a solid replacement for him. But for now I don't know who they would go for. Maybe Haaland? Because his release clause is expected to be active by this year so we never know what PSG will do after that.  Smiley
There is no way Haaland would want to prefer a move to PSG,he would rather stay at Mancity than move else where.Mbape is very eager to make a move from PSG to either Madrid or any north London club,I heard he was looking at moving to either Chelsea or Arsenal,but I think he would still stay at PSG because he is currently playing in the champions league with his team,and he wants to win the trophy with his club.
Haaland is a big player and his contribution to the Manchester City squad is one that they can't do without, therefore, contemplating on a move to PSG is not even in his plans.

I don't think Haaland would look favorably on such a transfer. Playing in the best teams in the world and retiring as a new legend is a good option, why would he play in a team like PSG?
The only reason PSG is successful is because they have a lot of money. Yes, they are very successful in their own leagues, but we see their situation in European matches. They certainly won't be the best team in the world Smiley

Why on earth would Haaland play in PSG?
There is not any good reason to say Haaland is interested to he is even thinking about playing another team like PSG.
In Manchester City, he got a good chance to win the Champions League and achieve more titles while in PSG there is less chance for this player Haaland.
I think Haaland is not going to leave Manchester City and even if he leaves this team he will not play for PSG.

It is an impossible move for Haaland because at his current peak performance of course he wants to join a team that is greater and has a long history. What would happen if he joined PSG, wouldn't that reduce his integrity as the best striker in the world and with Manchester City we know his greatness is extraordinary. It doesn't make sense if he goes to PSG and if there are no offers from other big clubs, I think it's better for him to stay at Manchester City because he will still win various titles including individual awards.
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January 05, 2024, 03:09:39 PM
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I don't think Haaland would look favorably on such a transfer. Playing in the best teams in the world and retiring as a new legend is a good option, why would he play in a team like PSG?
The only reason PSG is successful is because they have a lot of money. Yes, they are very successful in their own leagues, but we see their situation in European matches. They certainly won't be the best team in the world Smiley

Why on earth would Haaland play in PSG?
There is not any good reason to say Haaland is interested to he is even thinking about playing another team like PSG.
In Manchester City, he got a good chance to win the Champions League and achieve more titles while in PSG there is less chance for this player Haaland.
I think Haaland is not going to leave Manchester City and even if he leaves this team he will not play for PSG.

I dare say Haaland will not move to PSG, he has a bright future with Manchester City. Moving to PSG was a bad decision in his career, I am not underestimating PSG, but the quality of Ligue 1 is lower than the Premier League. Haaland is at the peak of his career with Manchester City, staying there will open up the opportunity to win the Ballon D'or. I admit that PSG is a big club with abundant financial support, but because Ligue 1 is less competitive, PSG always has difficulty competing with big clubs from other leagues.

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January 05, 2024, 05:25:24 PM
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In the first theory, Mbappe is a great player losing this player can damage the team in PSG as you said and this would be so hard for this team to find a replacement for Mbappe in PSG there is no team they want to lose a player in the level of Mbappe easily and I think PSG can't find alternative players in this team among younger players if they lose Mbappe.
But on the other hand, we can't forget what happened in Tottenham when they let Harry Kane leave the team, this team was not damaged but they even got stronger than before.
I think so too, especially now that PSG is exaggerating Mbappe's presence so much that other players are covered up even though basically a team's performance depends on the performance of all players in all lines, not just one player.
As an individual, Mbappe is quite great and I think for now he is one of the best players in the world, but for PSG I believe they would be better off losing Mbappe so they can build this team with a strong foundation and also all lines with the same quality of players so that it can lift team performance as happened to the Tottenham team.
You are right, individually Mbappe is a great player, but in football what is needed is team play and not just focusing on one player. Indeed, the presence of an above-average player would be an advantage for a club, but it should not lose sight of what it should be, which is team play. When they still have 3 star players they still can't do anything at the European level, it proves the presence of star players does not guarantee success for a club.
They can still be a giant club without star players, with a note that they must have evenly distributed players on each line who can work together with good chemistry. I personally if faced with 2 choices between having their squad with good team play and a squad that has several star players, I would prefer to have an evenly distributed squad that can play good cooperation.

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January 05, 2024, 05:47:47 PM
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Watching the game yesterday i don't think it's a performance with what we have seen in the league when PSG plays against other teams, the game was a final match and Toulouse played like a team that came prepared despite losing to the old ladies but they had a good performance and PSG worked so hard before getting rhe lead and secuing the victory at last. For PSG, they may not look very strong but their ability to keep topping the league and winning trophies even when they are not playing very well makes them bigger and better than other teams they are league leaders and they have a trophy at hand already.
Topping table and not staying have always been the goal for PSG, they're in good position to continue winning matches without complains but this present generation, everyone wants to ask what happen to then because they have failed to generate results that would become threatening to other opponents. As long as it's Ligue One, Paris Saint Germain will win matches, no argument about that, am I correct? Les Parisiens have to build hp around good players that would be able to filled in the space open and void by these clubs.

Although PSG is in a bad trend but still, in Ligue 1 that PSG it remains the best team and also a strong candidate team to get the trophy . So ya,when it comes to Ligue 1 and other domestic leagues then clearly, PSG remains the leading team compared to other teams in France . So yes,it is not surprising that in the match here in the French Super Cup final that PSG also only made a goal in the first half, but with that goal, atleast make PSG no longer needed to work harder in the second half.

Because ya, afterall, when PSG plays defense then ofcourse it will certainly be difficult for a team like Toulouse to be able to score in that match . So ya,it is not a surprising result anymore about PSG win the trophy thismoment because the victory is certainly a result that can be predicted easily.

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January 05, 2024, 05:55:48 PM
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In the first theory, Mbappe is a great player losing this player can damage the team in PSG as you said and this would be so hard for this team to find a replacement for Mbappe in PSG there is no team they want to lose a player in the level of Mbappe easily and I think PSG can't find alternative players in this team among younger players if they lose Mbappe.
But on the other hand, we can't forget what happened in Tottenham when they let Harry Kane leave the team, this team was not damaged but they even got stronger than before.
I think so too, especially now that PSG is exaggerating Mbappe's presence so much that other players are covered up even though basically a team's performance depends on the performance of all players in all lines, not just one player.
As an individual, Mbappe is quite great and I think for now he is one of the best players in the world, but for PSG I believe they would be better off losing Mbappe so they can build this team with a strong foundation and also all lines with the same quality of players so that it can lift team performance as happened to the Tottenham team.
There's every possiblity that if Kylian Mbappe leaves Paris Saint Germaine, the club will start doing better than they are currently doing without him but we must not feign ignorance to the fact that there are slim chances of Paris Saint Germaine getting better without Kylian Mbappe and that's because of the player's contribution to the team in the last seven years at the club.

No player have scored more goals for Paris Saint Germaine in the last seven years than Kylian Mbappe and no player's goals have provided more league points for the French champions in that same time duration than the France national team captain. These and many more are the reasons why Paris Saint Germaine will do anything possible to keep Kylian Mbappe at the club but unfortunately for the club, it seems like the player's mind is somewhere else and that is Real Madrid. His potential move to Real Madrid isn't guaranteed but judging by the reports, he's very likely to join Real Madrid after the end of the current season

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January 05, 2024, 06:07:46 PM
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In the first theory, Mbappe is a great player losing this player can damage the team in PSG as you said and this would be so hard for this team to find a replacement for Mbappe in PSG there is no team they want to lose a player in the level of Mbappe easily and I think PSG can't find alternative players in this team among younger players if they lose Mbappe.
But on the other hand, we can't forget what happened in Tottenham when they let Harry Kane leave the team, this team was not damaged but they even got stronger than before.
I think so too, especially now that PSG is exaggerating Mbappe's presence so much that other players are covered up even though basically a team's performance depends on the performance of all players in all lines, not just one player.
As an individual, Mbappe is quite great and I think for now he is one of the best players in the world, but for PSG I believe they would be better off losing Mbappe so they can build this team with a strong foundation and also all lines with the same quality of players so that it can lift team performance as happened to the Tottenham team.
You are right, individually Mbappe is a great player, but in football what is needed is team play and not just focusing on one player. Indeed, the presence of an above-average player would be an advantage for a club, but it should not lose sight of what it should be, which is team play. When they still have 3 star players they still can't do anything at the European level, it proves the presence of star players does not guarantee success for a club.
They can still be a giant club without star players, with a note that they must have evenly distributed players on each line who can work together with good chemistry. I personally if faced with 2 choices between having their squad with good team play and a squad that has several star players, I would prefer to have an evenly distributed squad that can play good cooperation.
I like your choice, playing as a team makes it easier to achieve targets, and minimizes the gap between players in the main squad. We know that the presence of star players with above average quality is really needed by the team, to make a difference in results. However, quite a few teams fail to manage these profits, resulting in greater risks, usually star players always get preferential treatment which is the forerunner to divisions between fellow players.

In terms of business, the presence of star players is certainly very beneficial in many ways, including increasing the fan base which will have an impact on increasing financial profits. Mbappe is one of the best star players at the moment, but now the spotlight on Mbappe has shifted a little, I mean when we mention Mbappe we immediately think about his future, it's no longer about the game and the way he helps the team with his ability to score goals.

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January 05, 2024, 06:24:52 PM
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In the first theory, Mbappe is a great player losing this player can damage the team in PSG as you said and this would be so hard for this team to find a replacement for Mbappe in PSG there is no team they want to lose a player in the level of Mbappe easily and I think PSG can't find alternative players in this team among younger players if they lose Mbappe.
But on the other hand, we can't forget what happened in Tottenham when they let Harry Kane leave the team, this team was not damaged but they even got stronger than before.
I think so too, especially now that PSG is exaggerating Mbappe's presence so much that other players are covered up even though basically a team's performance depends on the performance of all players in all lines, not just one player.
As an individual, Mbappe is quite great and I think for now he is one of the best players in the world, but for PSG I believe they would be better off losing Mbappe so they can build this team with a strong foundation and also all lines with the same quality of players so that it can lift team performance as happened to the Tottenham team.
You are right, individually Mbappe is a great player, but in football what is needed is team play and not just focusing on one player. Indeed, the presence of an above-average player would be an advantage for a club, but it should not lose sight of what it should be, which is team play. When they still have 3 star players they still can't do anything at the European level, it proves the presence of star players does not guarantee success for a club.
They can still be a giant club without star players, with a note that they must have evenly distributed players on each line who can work together with good chemistry. I personally if faced with 2 choices between having their squad with good team play and a squad that has several star players, I would prefer to have an evenly distributed squad that can play good cooperation.

The team does not need many star players in the squad for a good performance. We have seen proof of this several times. The Chelsea team won the Champions League title a few years ago. They did not have many star players in their squad. Leverkusen are still unbeaten in the Bundesliga and Europa League this season. This team also has no star players in its squad.

PSG had many star players in their squad, but their coach was not good. There was no friendly relationship between the players in the squad. PSG team cannot do well in Champions League due to lack of friendly relationship between players and lack of understanding between players. But now PSG has an experienced coach like Luis Enrique. Now, if PSG's squad was as strong in attack as before, PSG would have been able to dominate the Champions League.

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January 05, 2024, 06:39:43 PM
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The team does not need many star players in the squad for a good performance. We have seen proof of this several times. The Chelsea team won the Champions League title a few years ago. They did not have many star players in their squad. Leverkusen are still unbeaten in the Bundesliga and Europa League this season. This team also has no star players in its squad.

PSG had many star players in their squad, but their coach was not good. There was no friendly relationship between the players in the squad. PSG team cannot do well in Champions League due to lack of friendly relationship between players and lack of understanding between players. But now PSG has an experienced coach like Luis Enrique. Now, if PSG's squad was as strong in attack as before, PSG would have been able to dominate the Champions League.

Of course you need star players and I have no idea what your definition of a star player is. If the only guys who can be called stars are Messi, Ronaldo and Mbappe then you are right because they can't be everywhere and two of them play abroad. But of course do these teams need stars to win the Champions League. Some of them might not be as well known as others, but all of them are stars in some capacity.

You are applying some weird logic to be honest. Since PSG never won the Champions League although they had Mbappe, no team that has Mbappe will ever win the Champions League. That is how you construct your arguments. Think about it.

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January 05, 2024, 07:04:00 PM
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The team does not need many star players in the squad for a good performance. We have seen proof of this several times. The Chelsea team won the Champions League title a few years ago. They did not have many star players in their squad. Leverkusen are still unbeaten in the Bundesliga and Europa League this season. This team also has no star players in its squad.

PSG had many star players in their squad, but their coach was not good. There was no friendly relationship between the players in the squad. PSG team cannot do well in Champions League due to lack of friendly relationship between players and lack of understanding between players. But now PSG has an experienced coach like Luis Enrique. Now, if PSG's squad was as strong in attack as before, PSG would have been able to dominate the Champions League.
Of course you need star players and I have no idea what your definition of a star player is. If the only guys who can be called stars are Messi, Ronaldo and Mbappe then you are right because they can't be everywhere and two of them play abroad. But of course do these teams need stars to win the Champions League. Some of them might not be as well known as others, but all of them are stars in some capacity.

You are applying some weird logic to be honest. Since PSG never won the Champions League although they had Mbappe, no team that has Mbappe will ever win the Champions League. That is how you construct your arguments. Think about it.

I mean a star player who can consistently perform consistently, and has the ability to score at key moments and bring the team to victory. There are very few such players. But PSG was very lucky to have three of the best players in the world in Messi, Neymar and Mbappe in their squad. But they cannot use these three players properly. This is why the PSG team does not get a chance to touch the Champions League title.

You probably didn't read my comment properly or you didn't understand that. I don't blame Mbappe at all for PSG not winning the Champions League despite having Mbappe. The bonding between PSG's players was not good and that's why they couldn't dominate the Champions League, that's what I mean. If the understanding between the players is not good, even if you bring all the best players in the world in the same squad, the expected results will not be obtained from them. This is what I believe.

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January 05, 2024, 07:07:33 PM
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Why on earth would Haaland play in PSG?
There is not any good reason to say Haaland is interested to he is even thinking about playing another team like PSG.
In Manchester City, he got a good chance to win the Champions League and achieve more titles while in PSG there is less chance for this player Haaland.
I think Haaland is not going to leave Manchester City and even if he leaves this team he will not play for PSG.


Is this a rumor, gossip or just discussion? Haaland is one of the biggest stars in the current era. many of us, even among football fans and experts, say Haaland and Mbappe are two players who are shining compared to any other player or say stickers in general. talking about Haaland, it is actually far out of context for him to join PSG. even though PSG actually has unlimited finances, it seems like a futile attempt to offer a proposal to bring him to the Parc de Princess.

The problem is, City is a way for Haaland to win lots of League trophies and individual titles at the same time. with City, Haaland was able to win the treble at the same time last season. for Haaland, joining City is the best thing for now. additionally, Manchester City is owned by a fellow Middle Easterner. financial problems are not a significant obstacle for them. so, what is Haaland's motivation for joining this club from the French League? in fact, we know very well that the EPL League is currently much more prestigious than other leagues. even if Haaland one day wants to experience playing in another competition, the ideal choice is La Liga. so, I agree with what you did. after all, PSG is well aware that the possibility of getting Haaland is very small.

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January 05, 2024, 07:09:47 PM
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A least amount of differentiation is required I think. Putting every title into the same category is wrong I think. I still agree that no title should be disregarded altogether. It is something that nobody can take away from you once you have won it and that is why I am also against rotating so heavily that in the end there is the third row playing while all the top players are getting a rest or are sitting on the bench. We see that frequently from the top teams, but I can understand it because new competitions have been introduced nonstop and some of them I didn't even know they exist. It means more and more games, which automatically will reduce the game quality across all competitions. That is a big problem. We should have less competitions with higher intensity.
PSG played its best squad in the final match against Toulouse yesterday. PSG won the match 2-0 over Toulouse and that made them win their first title this season. Player rotation is certainly necessary because there are many important matches that PSG will play, but Luis Enrique did not do it in the final match against Toulouse yesterday.

But first, congratulations on Luis Enrique's first title with PSG and this is the best gift for fans and everyone who has supported PSG all this time. However, Toulouse may have been unlucky in this match because they failed to score even though they had many chances to create. So once again, congratulations PSG, congratulations Luis Enrique and congratulations to all PSG fans on this first title.

He did the only right thing because winning that title sets the players into the right mood for more. There was no point in rotation in that final against Toulouse because they could have lost more than just that game. If they lost that game, the mind games would have started in the heads of the players already before the Champions League, the real thing is going to continue. He wanted to avoid that and it was the right decision. First title, check! Now they are going to reach out for more.

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January 05, 2024, 07:15:02 PM
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A least amount of differentiation is required I think. Putting every title into the same category is wrong I think. I still agree that no title should be disregarded altogether. It is something that nobody can take away from you once you have won it and that is why I am also against rotating so heavily that in the end there is the third row playing while all the top players are getting a rest or are sitting on the bench. We see that frequently from the top teams, but I can understand it because new competitions have been introduced nonstop and some of them I didn't even know they exist. It means more and more games, which automatically will reduce the game quality across all competitions. That is a big problem. We should have less competitions with higher intensity.
PSG played its best squad in the final match against Toulouse yesterday. PSG won the match 2-0 over Toulouse and that made them win their first title this season. Player rotation is certainly necessary because there are many important matches that PSG will play, but Luis Enrique did not do it in the final match against Toulouse yesterday.
But first, congratulations on Luis Enrique's first title with PSG and this is the best gift for fans and everyone who has supported PSG all this time. However, Toulouse may have been unlucky in this match because they failed to score even though they had many chances to create. So once again, congratulations PSG, congratulations Luis Enrique and congratulations to all PSG fans on this first title.
He did the only right thing because winning that title sets the players into the right mood for more. There was no point in rotation in that final against Toulouse because they could have lost more than just that game. If they lost that game, the mind games would have started in the heads of the players already before the Champions League, the real thing is going to continue. He wanted to avoid that and it was the right decision. First title, check! Now they are going to reach out for more.

Luis Enrique tried his best to win this title and he succeeded. The title may not matter much. However, this title win will boost the confidence of PSG players. If the players are confident, PSG will have a promising result in the Champions League as well. While winning the Ligue 1 title is not difficult for PSG, it is very difficult for PSG to perform well in the Champions League.

PSG will face Real Sociedad in the knockout round. I wouldn't say that Real Sociedad is too strong. PSG will be considered as the favorite team in this match. Even so, PSG are likely to drop points against Sociedad. But if the players are confident, and if Enrique's match strategy is good, PSG will qualify for the quarter-finals with a win against Sociedad.

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and this could happen to PSG because I don't doubt PSG's finances which might be able to make an offer to Haaland worth 100 million dollars will definitely make the player think deeper and possibly accept the offer from PSG.
Regarding Mbappe's departure, I am ready to see him go because he has provided many good achievements for PSG and it is time for Mbappe to look for another challenge with a bigger club to get the title he wants.

But if it was PSG I think Haaland would think about signing with them. You have mentioned yourself that Mbappe chose to leave PSG because he wanted to look for another challenge. Actually I don't think there is a difficult challenge at PSG for players like Mbappe or Haaland. If Haaland plays for PSG then he will do what Mbappe did where Haaland will win several Ligue 1 trophies and it will be difficult to compete in the Champions League.

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January 05, 2024, 07:27:12 PM
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and this could happen to PSG because I don't doubt PSG's finances which might be able to make an offer to Haaland worth 100 million dollars will definitely make the player think deeper and possibly accept the offer from PSG.
Regarding Mbappe's departure, I am ready to see him go because he has provided many good achievements for PSG and it is time for Mbappe to look for another challenge with a bigger club to get the title he wants.
But if it was PSG I think Haaland would think about signing with them. You have mentioned yourself that Mbappe chose to leave PSG because he wanted to look for another challenge. Actually I don't think there is a difficult challenge at PSG for players like Mbappe or Haaland. If Haaland plays for PSG then he will do what Mbappe did where Haaland will win several Ligue 1 trophies and it will be difficult to compete in the Champions League.

Mbappe wants to leave PSG We are saying this because Mbappe has not yet renewed his contract with PSG. But I wouldn't be at all surprised if Mbappe doesn't end up leaving PSG. PSG management offers Mbappe a lot of benefits as well as high wages. Also this season PSG got an experienced coach like Luis Enrique. So it's no surprise that Mbappe extended his contract with PSG again at the last minute.

If Mbappe leaves PSG, then PSG will definitely need an experienced striker. They may try to bring Haaland from Manchester City. However, it is unlikely that Haaland will leave the Premier League and come to Ligue 1. PSG may try to add Vlahovic or Osimhen to the squad.

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January 05, 2024, 07:39:07 PM
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and this could happen to PSG because I don't doubt PSG's finances which might be able to make an offer to Haaland worth 100 million dollars will definitely make the player think deeper and possibly accept the offer from PSG.
Regarding Mbappe's departure, I am ready to see him go because he has provided many good achievements for PSG and it is time for Mbappe to look for another challenge with a bigger club to get the title he wants.

But if it was PSG I think Haaland would think about signing with them. You have mentioned yourself that Mbappe chose to leave PSG because he wanted to look for another challenge. Actually I don't think there is a difficult challenge at PSG for players like Mbappe or Haaland. If Haaland plays for PSG then he will do what Mbappe did where Haaland will win several Ligue 1 trophies and it will be difficult to compete in the Champions League.
The fact that Kylian Mbappe wants to leave Paris Saint Germaine doesn't mean that Manchester City's most priced asset Erling Haaland would also want to leave the English, European and world champions to go and join Paris Saint Germaine. Haaland is in a club where he's getting everything a top footballer would want to get ajd if he's ro leave Manchester City anytime soon, I don't think his preferred destination will be Paris Saint Germaine. How can a player leave a club as big as Manchester City for a club who is yet to win the UEFA champions league competition trophy in their history.

Sometimes in football, financial package of transfer offers doesn't determine a player's decision so if Paris Saint Germaine tables financial package that's too mouthwatering for Erling Haaland, I don't think it'll make the Norwegian change his mind and leave a Manchester City side that's managed by Pep Guardiola

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Luis Enrique tried his best to win this title and he succeeded. The title may not matter much. However, this title win will boost the confidence of PSG players. If the players are confident, PSG will have a promising result in the Champions League as well. While winning the Ligue 1 title is not difficult for PSG, it is very difficult for PSG to perform well in the Champions League.

PSG will face Real Sociedad in the knockout round. I wouldn't say that Real Sociedad is too strong. PSG will be considered as the favorite team in this match. Even so, PSG are likely to drop points against Sociedad. But if the players are confident, and if Enrique's match strategy is good, PSG will qualify for the quarter-finals with a win against Sociedad.
Without intending to underestimate Real Sociedad, I think Paris Saint Germain has better bargaining power to emerge victorious in this match. In Ligue 1 itself, I personally really believe that PSG has a great chance of retaining the trophy again, considering that no club has been a serious competitor to Luis Enrique squad so far. If Mbappe moves to another club in the transfer window this January, I think PSG dominance will not be too shaken in Ligue 1.

Enrique task is actually quite tough to coach PSG, because he is required to be able to present the Champions League trophy, but we understand that this demand is very difficult to fulfill. I think we need to appreciate PSG achievements by congratulating PSG on winning the French Super Cup, and we will say the same thing again when Enrique presents the Ligue 1 trophy at the end of the season.

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January 05, 2024, 07:40:30 PM
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The team does not need many star players in the squad for a good performance. We have seen proof of this several times. The Chelsea team won the Champions League title a few years ago. They did not have many star players in their squad. Leverkusen are still unbeaten in the Bundesliga and Europa League this season. This team also has no star players in its squad.

PSG had many star players in their squad, but their coach was not good. There was no friendly relationship between the players in the squad. PSG team cannot do well in Champions League due to lack of friendly relationship between players and lack of understanding between players. But now PSG has an experienced coach like Luis Enrique. Now, if PSG's squad was as strong in attack as before, PSG would have been able to dominate the Champions League.
Of course you need star players and I have no idea what your definition of a star player is. If the only guys who can be called stars are Messi, Ronaldo and Mbappe then you are right because they can't be everywhere and two of them play abroad. But of course do these teams need stars to win the Champions League. Some of them might not be as well known as others, but all of them are stars in some capacity.

You are applying some weird logic to be honest. Since PSG never won the Champions League although they had Mbappe, no team that has Mbappe will ever win the Champions League. That is how you construct your arguments. Think about it.

I mean a star player who can consistently perform consistently, and has the ability to score at key moments and bring the team to victory. There are very few such players. But PSG was very lucky to have three of the best players in the world in Messi, Neymar and Mbappe in their squad. But they cannot use these three players properly. This is why the PSG team does not get a chance to touch the Champions League title.

You probably didn't read my comment properly or you didn't understand that. I don't blame Mbappe at all for PSG not winning the Champions League despite having Mbappe. The bonding between PSG's players was not good and that's why they couldn't dominate the Champions League, that's what I mean. If the understanding between the players is not good, even if you bring all the best players in the world in the same squad, the expected results will not be obtained from them. This is what I believe.

No you didn't Mbappe blame at all, but the logic you applied in your first post would be the same what I posted about Mbappe. No players in the world will guarantee you the Champions League trophy. If one club had bought Ronaldo, Messi and Mbappe, do you think that they would have won the Champions League five years in a row guaranteed? No, probably not. But this doesn't mean that star players are not needed. First of all, star player is a vague term without definition, at least as you used it. Secondly, no team regardless of how it is composed will win the trophy guaranteed.

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I mean a star player who can consistently perform consistently, and has the ability to score at key moments and bring the team to victory. There are very few such players. But PSG was very lucky to have three of the best players in the world in Messi, Neymar and Mbappe in their squad. But they cannot use these three players properly. This is why the PSG team does not get a chance to touch the Champions League title.

You probably didn't read my comment properly or you didn't understand that. I don't blame Mbappe at all for PSG not winning the Champions League despite having Mbappe. The bonding between PSG's players was not good and that's why they couldn't dominate the Champions League, that's what I mean. If the understanding between the players is not good, even if you bring all the best players in the world in the same squad, the expected results will not be obtained from them. This is what I believe.
No you didn't Mbappe blame at all, but the logic you applied in your first post would be the same what I posted about Mbappe. No players in the world will guarantee you the Champions League trophy. If one club had bought Ronaldo, Messi and Mbappe, do you think that they would have won the Champions League five years in a row guaranteed? No, probably not. But this doesn't mean that star players are not needed. First of all, star player is a vague term without definition, at least as you used it. Secondly, no team regardless of how it is composed will win the trophy guaranteed.

The squad needs star players. However, it is not always possible to perform well if there are star players in the squad. In this year's Premier League, we can see Chelsea and Manchester United teams as examples. A lot of talented and star players are in the squads of these two teams. However, their performance is quite poor. Qualification for the Champions League is unlikely to be achieved by these two teams. On the other hand, Aston Villa and Newcastle teams are performing better than Chelsea and United without any star players.

PSG definitely need a score machine like Mbappe to keep their performance stable. Mbappe has the ability to score a lot of goals. But if match strategy and chemistry between players is not good, it is not possible to survive in a competitive platform like Champions League.

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French Cup games for Round of 64 started today with victories for Nantes and other teams playing in the Championnat National 2 and Ligue 2. Maybe the most interesting match today is being played between Metz and Clermont Foot. Until the 48 minutes of the game, Metz were leading with 1 goal then Clermont Foot scored the draw. The game is quite boring by the way..
In the upcoming games, there is Lens - Monaco that is good to follow. In the others there is a clear favourite especially in the match where a Ligue 1 team like Nice or Lille or PSG were involved.

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The team does not need many star players in the squad for a good performance. We have seen proof of this several times. The Chelsea team won the Champions League title a few years ago. They did not have many star players in their squad. Leverkusen are still unbeaten in the Bundesliga and Europa League this season. This team also has no star players in its squad.

PSG had many star players in their squad, but their coach was not good. There was no friendly relationship between the players in the squad. PSG team cannot do well in Champions League due to lack of friendly relationship between players and lack of understanding between players. But now PSG has an experienced coach like Luis Enrique. Now, if PSG's squad was as strong in attack as before, PSG would have been able to dominate the Champions League.
PSG have some qualities and so I wonder why they’re bent on building their team on one man who’s clearly wanting to leave. Now his departure is lurking around, they must try so hard to either learn to play without him or they suffer a while and them having the latter choice will be so devastating for the fans. Football requires 11 players, not one player and they’ve got some good talents on the pitch with them who can do wonders locally and in Europe.

 All that’s needed are development of these players and also get few more signings to make this team gel and try to blend well then boom they can get you trophies instead of relying on an individual which when he doesn’t play well, the whole team suffers. If they're to build their team around him then he should be willing to remain in the team and help them pass through thick and thins to get better, if not there's no point depending on him.

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