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December 15, 2023, 04:15:48 PM
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I suppose you might be wrong when you talk about Luis Enrique when he was working in Barcelona, we know Luis Enrique is a gear coach and he had good performance when he was working in Barcelona but this coach is now working in a different team than Barcelona in which Luis Enrique is having a different situation and we can't expect to see the same performance from Luis Enrique and PSG in the Champions League, in fact, everything is changed and predicting PSG for the this Champions League is not that easy.


Where exactly have I been wrong? I said that he was a lucky guy having this superior team back at the time and I think that's true. Any coach having a superior team is lucky. It doesn't guarantee winning the Champions League and that is why it is still a great achievement by Luis Enrique, but I would never put Enrique on the same level as Guardiola or Klopp. PSG had a few weak Champions League games that convinced me they will not win the competition. They had some good games, but also some bad games, which is too much instability to win the title.
Whether we talk about Liuz Enrique or we talk about PSG, it is all the same story. When the club is not good, the coach cannot be said to be good. Take the case of Chelsea football club as a case study. Right from Graham Porter to Lampard and now to Pochetino, we cannot condemn Chelsea as a football club and exenorate the coach. When the club is good, the credit goes to the coach and when the otherwise happens, the blame goes heavily on the coach too.

We have seen PSG performance so many seasons in the champions league and we can agree that they have been excellent but yet they could not win the champions league. Therefore this season that we can say that they are performing below expectations, there's no magic that will make them win the champions league.

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December 15, 2023, 04:31:24 PM
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PSG dominance in domestic league but difficult for winning or qualifying to the higher round in UEFA Champion League, in this season PSG performance in Champion League very poor and have finished on 2nd place with lucky achievement with goals difference because PSG and Milan have the same points. Regarding with how fantastic achievement in Ligue 1 very difference than PSG appearance in Champion League, they have knock out on 16 round last two season with the most highest achievement one time success qualify to final stage with difference condition without home and away match on knock out round.

Champion League knock out round will start more than one month later, PSG has opportunity keep focus on domestic league and try to make many difference points from Nice with current 2 points left right now.
PSG doesn't have a great team, the fact that they do end up winning the ligue 1 every season and fail at UCL shows that ligue 1 is not a great league, and one of the reasons why they did drop from fifth place to sixth place as well. You just have to realize that ligue 1 as a whole is filled with some terrible teams, and aside from PSG no other team ever achieves anything anywhere, so it's clear that they are not going to do fine.

To be fair as a whole nation they like to complain about stuff all the time, it is literally built into their culture, they like to complain, and because of that instead of figuring out a solution to the problem, which is the league being terrible, they simply just complain that the league is terrible and do nothing about it.

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December 15, 2023, 06:00:40 PM
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Monaco is just six points behind the table leaders PSG, which entails if they win against Lyon tonight which is very likely, they will definitely be just three points away from this table top, for the first time since 2017, they can dream of possible been a potential contender for the league title this season with their current performance and form.
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In the meantime, if Monaco wins against Lyon, they will reduce the difference in points with PSG to three points before PSG carries out round 16 on 18 Dec 2023 at the Decathlon Arena against Lille.
The historical table of Monaco's position in the last three seasons was only satisfied with being in third place for two seasons, namely the 2020/2021 season and the 2021/2022 season. Last season they were in sixth position.
Maybe this season they have the opportunity to improve or at least still have the opportunity to climb to second place.

Lyon will not be easy to beat by Monaco in the match which will take place in about two hours from now at the Stade Louis II, Monaco.
Lyon's series of bad results this season means they are not favored in this match. But I have hope that Lacazette can continue what he did last week when he beat Toulouse.

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December 15, 2023, 06:04:34 PM
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I must admit that Monaco have been incredible in home matches until this moment. They are currently the second best team about that in the league. They are very productive and really good at conceding as few goals as possible. They are like a nightmare team to Lyon with these statistics while Lyon are in big need of a winning streak in the league to recover faster.  Grin

Maybe Lyon beat Toulouse to take a deep breath. But it looks like it won't take them a long time to be demoralized again. I expect a solid effort by Monaco to win by at least a 2-goal difference here. Marseille beat Lyon by 3-0 recently you know. I won't be surprised if we see the same from Monaco.

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December 15, 2023, 07:05:10 PM
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Where exactly have I been wrong? I said that he was a lucky guy having this superior team back at the time and I think that's true. Any coach having a superior team is lucky. It doesn't guarantee winning the Champions League and that is why it is still a great achievement by Luis Enrique, but I would never put Enrique on the same level as Guardiola or Klopp. PSG had a few weak Champions League games that convinced me they will not win the competition. They had some good games, but also some bad games, which is too much instability to win the title.
Whether we talk about Liuz Enrique or we talk about PSG, it is all the same story. When the club is not good, the coach cannot be said to be good. Take the case of Chelsea football club as a case study. Right from Graham Porter to Lampard and now to Pochetino, we cannot condemn Chelsea as a football club and exenorate the coach. When the club is good, the credit goes to the coach and when the otherwise happens, the blame goes heavily on the coach too.

We have seen PSG performance so many seasons in the champions league and we can agree that they have been excellent but yet they could not win the champions league. Therefore this season that we can say that they are performing below expectations, there's no magic that will make them win the champions league.
For the better results coaches need time like we have for the Jürgen Klopp and Pepe Guardiola they are doing impressive job but here we have no environment like them just because of these things are not going like we need PSG management needs to stay calm and allow coach few years if they want to win Champions League this will not happen in just one or two years even they are having the best available sources for this all Luis Enrique is good coach, and he is having good results as well but now if things are not going as he is planning then surely he deserves more time from the management hopefully he will be able to bring positive changes and PSG will also win Champions League.

Mostly they have done good job in group stages, and then we have bad fallen from them in knock out stages which is surely problem, and they need to overcome from this which is not easy, hopefully now we will have better things from management and PSG will be able to perform good at coming seasons for the title.

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December 15, 2023, 07:22:21 PM
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I must admit that Monaco have been incredible in home matches until this moment. They are currently the second best team about that in the league. They are very productive and really good at conceding as few goals as possible. They are like a nightmare team to Lyon with these statistics while Lyon are in big need of a winning streak in the league to recover faster.  Grin

Maybe Lyon beat Toulouse to take a deep breath. But it looks like it won't take them a long time to be demoralized again. I expect a solid effort by Monaco to win by at least a 2-goal difference here. Marseille beat Lyon by 3-0 recently you know. I won't be surprised if we see the same from Monaco.

Lyon is the last team in the relegation zone. There's not much to expect from them other than just flowing like water, I mean this team is going through a super tough time. Lyon have won only 2 out of 15 matches, 4 of which were draws and 9 losses. This is one of the worst seasons for Lyon that will be remembered, but I honestly didn't expect them to be like that.

Monaco, which is currently in the top three, certainly deserves to be favored to win the match. After all, Monaco are playing at home and that's another advantage they can take advantage of. I'm not sure what scenario can make Lyon steal points in this match, but really Lyon is too bad right now.

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December 15, 2023, 08:39:01 PM
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Monaco is just six points behind the table leaders PSG, which entails if they win against Lyon tonight which is very likely, they will definitely be just three points away from this table top, for the first time since 2017, they can dream of possible been a potential contender for the league title this season with their current performance and form.
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In the meantime, if Monaco wins against Lyon, they will reduce the difference in points with PSG to three points before PSG carries out round 16 on 18 Dec 2023 at the Decathlon Arena against Lille.
The historical table of Monaco's position in the last three seasons was only satisfied with being in third place for two seasons, namely the 2020/2021 season and the 2021/2022 season. Last season they were in sixth position.
Maybe this season they have the opportunity to improve or at least still have the opportunity to climb to second place.

Lyon will not be easy to beat by Monaco in the match which will take place in about two hours from now at the Stade Louis II, Monaco.
Lyon's series of bad results this season means they are not favored in this match. But I have hope that Lacazette can continue what he did last week when he beat Toulouse.
I am also following Monaco for few years and I have feeling mostly they started very good in early rounds but as we reach near end they have problems, and mostly they lost their consistency which bring them down even in last season I was expecting from them to finish in top four but sadly suddenly they lost their touch and fail to keep things on level and ended with sixth spot which was really disappointing for their fans as well but in this season things are looking better, and we can expect good performance from them which will help them for having better spot even now Lille and Marseille both are doing good job and having good chances for staying at the better spots.

In today match, we will have tough match as Lyon which is at the bottom having good signs of improvement and their performance is also good but still any prediction is not easy with mostly feeling win for the Monaco.

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December 15, 2023, 08:46:04 PM
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I must admit that Monaco have been incredible in home matches until this moment. They are currently the second best team about that in the league. They are very productive and really good at conceding as few goals as possible. They are like a nightmare team to Lyon with these statistics while Lyon are in big need of a winning streak in the league to recover faster.  Grin

Maybe Lyon beat Toulouse to take a deep breath. But it looks like it won't take them a long time to be demoralized again. I expect a solid effort by Monaco to win by at least a 2-goal difference here. Marseille beat Lyon by 3-0 recently you know. I won't be surprised if we see the same from Monaco.

It's not like previous games, I don't see any light from Monaco in first half. They couldn't really control the game, Lyon defend well and look for counter attack. Balogun is not effective. Monaco have to find a goal asap or things will be harder for them. Lyon would be okay with 1 point so Monaco is the side that have to win here.
Lacazette made a hat-trick last time but he couldn't get any position in this game. Monaco is not like Toulouse. He could get maybe one or two positions whole game so he has to score if he finds that opportunity.

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December 15, 2023, 08:56:01 PM
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I must admit that Monaco have been incredible in home matches until this moment. They are currently the second best team about that in the league. They are very productive and really good at conceding as few goals as possible. They are like a nightmare team to Lyon with these statistics while Lyon are in big need of a winning streak in the league to recover faster.  Grin

Maybe Lyon beat Toulouse to take a deep breath. But it looks like it won't take them a long time to be demoralized again. I expect a solid effort by Monaco to win by at least a 2-goal difference here. Marseille beat Lyon by 3-0 recently you know. I won't be surprised if we see the same from Monaco.
In the French league, there's been a bit of competitiveness but all time, Monaco have been able to keep up with the tempo in previous seasons up till now. They're still at a level of dominance and it's encouraging that week after week they've got higher probability of making positive difference in every game they're in.
The result of every game matters as it's a determinant of their progress in the domestic league.

 I feel when they'll face Lyon, a win is expected because the latter doesn't really have much grounds yet and are just flunctuating in performances. The goal margin too should be tangible enough. Though it'll be a rough league ride for Lyon as they've been experiencing ups and downs too, they were a good team and maybe are currently around average performance level but still they can make differences. They've still got weeks before the season elapses.

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December 15, 2023, 09:07:56 PM
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It's not like previous games, I don't see any light from Monaco in first half. They couldn't really control the game, Lyon defend well and look for counter attack. Balogun is not effective. Monaco have to find a goal asap or things will be harder for them. Lyon would be okay with 1 point so Monaco is the side that have to win here.
Lacazette made a hat-trick last time but he couldn't get any position in this game. Monaco is not like Toulouse. He could get maybe one or two positions whole game so he has to score if he finds that opportunity.
I don't know what happened in the first half because I didn't watch the match, but it looks like Monaco will have a very difficult time beating Lyon in this match because defense is Lyon's main focus so as not to lose ridiculously. The two teams played out a draw in the first half, neither scored a goal although Monaco performed well with several chances.

The second half had started, so I thought I had a little time to watch it before moving on to the Nottingham vs Tottenham match again. Monaco can most likely win at home, but if Lyon can defend well then a 0-0 finish is also possible.

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December 15, 2023, 09:28:22 PM
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I don't know what happened in the first half because I didn't watch the match, but it looks like Monaco will have a very difficult time beating Lyon in this match because defense is Lyon's main focus so as not to lose ridiculously. The two teams played out a draw in the first half, neither scored a goal although Monaco performed well with several chances.

The second half had started, so I thought I had a little time to watch it before moving on to the Nottingham vs Tottenham match again. Monaco can most likely win at home, but if Lyon can defend well then a 0-0 finish is also possible.

I also didn't watch the match but when I've enough time, I'll ensure to play out good time to watch the highlights. We should never underestimate average clubs in Ligue One and tonight is one of the improving game for Lyon. They're holding down one of the top clubs in France and this might just be a winning match for the club sitting bottom of the league. AS Monaco having draw points with Olympique Lyonnias in the 68th minutes of the match. I don't understand what's going on because I see no solid reason why Monaco can withstand the high pressure.

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I also didn't watch the match but when I've enough time, I'll ensure to play out good time to watch the highlights. We should never underestimate average clubs in Ligue One and tonight is one of the improving game for Lyon. They're holding down one of the top clubs in France and this might just be a winning match for the club sitting bottom of the league. AS Monaco having draw points with Olympique Lyonnias in the 68th minutes of the match. I don't understand what's going on because I see no solid reason why Monaco can withstand the high pressure.
The match time is also almost over and Monaco as the host in this match is still unable to equalize with Lyon. This actually surprised me a little because Lyon was able to make a fairly strong team in Ligue1 experience difficulties and a very real defeat in their match today. If Lyon is able to make every opponent experience difficulties like this in every game remaining this season, I think Lyon will not experience relegation and everyone can still see Lyon competing as usual in Ligue1 next season.

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December 15, 2023, 09:57:15 PM
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I don't know what happened in the first half because I didn't watch the match, but it looks like Monaco will have a very difficult time beating Lyon in this match because defense is Lyon's main focus so as not to lose ridiculously. The two teams played out a draw in the first half, neither scored a goal although Monaco performed well with several chances.

The second half had started, so I thought I had a little time to watch it before moving on to the Nottingham vs Tottenham match again. Monaco can most likely win at home, but if Lyon can defend well then a 0-0 finish is also possible.

I also didn't watch the match but when I've enough time, I'll ensure to play out good time to watch the highlights. We should never underestimate average clubs in Ligue One and tonight is one of the improving game for Lyon. They're holding down one of the top clubs in France and this might just be a winning match for the club sitting bottom of the league. AS Monaco having draw points with Olympique Lyonnias in the 68th minutes of the match. I don't understand what's going on because I see no solid reason why Monaco can withstand the high pressure.

I think the unbelievable is actually happening now because if the goal of Jefferson Ruan Jeffinho helps Lyon to seal this victory from away against an informed AS Monaco then we shouldn't underestimate any average team not just in Ligue1 but in all the league. I think this result tonight will encourage and motivate Lyon to perform better because it's going to serve as a moral booster for the team since the win is coming from away and a win against a top club this season is a good achievement foe them i hope they get this victory since it's going to see them having hope of getting out of the relegation zone, let's wait till the final results so we can celebrate the Lyon team 😂.

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December 15, 2023, 10:14:25 PM
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I wasn't really expecting such result in the Monaco - Lyon game so I must admit that I'm very surprised. Especially in the first half Monaco were very effective. Their xG was around 1.00 but still couldn't score a goal. If they got ahead there maybe Lyon were going to lose their concentration which would lead to a bigger loss as well.

However we saw a much worse Monaco in the second half. They were further from scoring a goal despite having the double amount of their goal attempts in the first half. They had only 1 out of 13 shots on target in the second half I mean. Lyon somehow managed to score the winning goal in the last minutes and kept it to the end. This is another very valuable win for Lyon to make a move for getting out of the relegation zone.

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December 15, 2023, 10:16:51 PM
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I must admit that Monaco have been incredible in home matches until this moment. They are currently the second best team about that in the league. They are very productive and really good at conceding as few goals as possible. They are like a nightmare team to Lyon with these statistics while Lyon are in big need of a winning streak in the league to recover faster.  Grin

Maybe Lyon beat Toulouse to take a deep breath. But it looks like it won't take them a long time to be demoralized again. I expect a solid effort by Monaco to win by at least a 2-goal difference here. Marseille beat Lyon by 3-0 recently you know. I won't be surprised if we see the same from Monaco.
I wouldn't deny that I was pretty sure that Monaco will win in this game and I am surprised to see them being defeated by Lyon. Jeffinho scored the only goal at the end of the game while Lyon was not dominating the match nor making a lot of attempts. At the end, Lyon was able to escape from the last place and be placed in the 17th position for the moment. I expect them to remain in this position since the two teams under them will have quite hard games this round. Monaco also will not lose their place since Lille which is just behind them will face PSG.
Two successive positive results from Lyon, do they finally woke up?

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December 15, 2023, 10:19:05 PM
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The match time is also almost over and Monaco as the host in this match is still unable to equalize with Lyon. This actually surprised me a little because Lyon was able to make a fairly strong team in Ligue1 experience difficulties and a very real defeat in their match today. If Lyon is able to make every opponent experience difficulties like this in every game remaining this season, I think Lyon will not experience relegation and everyone can still see Lyon competing as usual in Ligue1 next season.
I find Monaco's loss shocking because they are among the top teams in French League One this year, while Lyon has been fighting to avoid relegation because of their poor start and performance thus far. However, Lyon found their playing form after their most recent game. If Lyon continues to play this well through the end of the season, I believe Olympic Lyonnaise are going to arise from the League in a different way thanks to their strong performance.

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December 15, 2023, 10:28:31 PM
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I also didn't watch the match but when I've enough time, I'll ensure to play out good time to watch the highlights. We should never underestimate average clubs in Ligue One and tonight is one of the improving game for Lyon. They're holding down one of the top clubs in France and this might just be a winning match for the club sitting bottom of the league. AS Monaco having draw points with Olympique Lyonnias in the 68th minutes of the match. I don't understand what's going on because I see no solid reason why Monaco can withstand the high pressure.
The match time is also almost over and Monaco as the host in this match is still unable to equalize with Lyon. This actually surprised me a little because Lyon was able to make a fairly strong team in Ligue1 experience difficulties and a very real defeat in their match today. If Lyon is able to make every opponent experience difficulties like this in every game remaining this season, I think Lyon will not experience relegation and everyone can still see Lyon competing as usual in Ligue1 next season.
Tonight's football match had a really big surprise. Imagine Lyon, who is usually not doing well, managed to beat Monaco, a team that's usually much stronger and it  is in the third position in the league table. It's like the last-placed Lyon suddenly became super strong and defeated the team that everyone thought would win easily.

I was also surprised because, before the game started, I thought Monaco would win easily because they have been playing so well, and Lyon hasn't been doing great lately. But guess what? Football is full of surprises, and tonight was one of those times. Lyon, the underdog, proved everyone wrong and showed that in football, anything can happen, making the game way more exciting than anyone expected.

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December 15, 2023, 10:38:20 PM
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I must admit that Monaco have been incredible in home matches until this moment. They are currently the second best team about that in the league. They are very productive and really good at conceding as few goals as possible. They are like a nightmare team to Lyon with these statistics while Lyon are in big need of a winning streak in the league to recover faster.  Grin
Whether there was an element of luck or not, Lyon's victory over Monaco was truly surprising. In fact, if we look at the position alone, far away, Monaco is in the top clubs while Lyon is in the relegation zone. Moreover, statistics show how dominant and strong Monaco is during the game. They are quite skilled at toying with their opponents and also dominating the ball so they are often at their aid. But unfortunately, Monaco only focused on that and was not strong enough when pressing on the opponent's defense. This should be homework that Monaco should pay attention to. because after all, they lost to a lower club and this is quite embarrassing. Especially with statistics where they excel in all lines. It's really sad to see the final result.

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December 15, 2023, 10:51:44 PM
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Lyon was able to collect 3 points today by beating Monaco ans so far this is their third winning this season and playing at Monaco home ground Lyon was playing under pressure but Lyon defensive lines were very discipline and they can managed their defense until the match ended and after several week always in the bottom of league standings finally Lyon can lifted up their position on 16th place and indeed as a caretaker Pierre Sage has been done well and now Lyon seems very optimistic they can able to avoiding relegation zone

Monaco has just gets their 4th loses this season and they were failed to overtake second place from Nice and i have to say probably Monaco will be out from the race with Nice and PSG this because Monaco performance was decline and from 7 latest matches Monaco only can able to gets 3 wins and although Monaco has change their manager but Adi Hütter was unable to bringing Monaco to playing consistent and they seems still make the same mistakes just like last season that Monaco was unable to managed their consistency

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December 15, 2023, 11:10:47 PM
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Lyon was able to collect 3 points today by beating Monaco ans so far this is their third winning this season and playing at Monaco home ground Lyon was playing under pressure but Lyon defensive lines were very discipline and they can managed their defense until the match ended and after several week always in the bottom of league standings finally Lyon can lifted up their position on 16th place and indeed as a caretaker Pierre Sage has been done well and now Lyon seems very optimistic they can able to avoiding relegation zone

Monaco has just gets their 4th loses this season and they were failed to overtake second place from Nice and i have to say probably Monaco will be out from the race with Nice and PSG this because Monaco performance was decline and from 7 latest matches Monaco only can able to gets 3 wins and although Monaco has change their manager but Adi Hütter was unable to bringing Monaco to playing consistent and they seems still make the same mistakes just like last season that Monaco was unable to managed their consistency

I saw some sequences of this game and wow, this was so important for Olympique Lyon as they could now have their first small winning streak this season. But Monaco should have won the game without a doubt. This was one of those notorious lucky punches. Lyon managed to get into the game better and better over time, but Monaco was the team with the chances although Lyon did do one thing very well, which was keeping Monaco at a distance from the Lyon goal. Monaco had a lot of attempts, but not really a lot of shots on target. Those three points are like gold for Lyon.

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