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July 14, 2023, 12:37:45 PM
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After all, PSG is the richest team in Ligue 1 until now. So yes of course, having that much money maybe PSG should not to worry about losing of the star players they have. After all, as time goes by, of course PSG will get other great players too. But yes, because PSG has a lot of money and so PSG can give crazy contracts with privileges that are given to one of their players who are also well paid. But apart from that case, it seems that in this transfer market, PSG has managed to bring in some great players as well. Interestingly, the average age of players recruited by PSG at this moment is at least under the age of 30, and of course this is the right choice for the long term performance.
As a team that dominates Ligue 1 both in popularity and financially, it seems that PSG can achieve what they want. It's true that PSG won't feel any loss even if they lose their star players all at once, but sometimes it's like this team is forcing their star players to stay on the pretext of loyalty or a debt of gratitude that must be paid.

Therefore PSG often makes its players feel uncomfortable and over time some players seem to start to become aware of PSG's power in managing their players. This transfer window, PSG has changed slightly from its dependence on star players and of course the players they have brought in are relatively younger and some have extraordinary experience with the previous team.
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July 14, 2023, 01:45:46 PM
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Well, So far PSG has not managed the riches of the clubside well; with Messi off to USA; Neymar about to leave and Mbappe flirting with Real Madrid, it has exposed PSG spending because the squad is an average one and the new coach now have an uphill task to do. Will PSG be able to rebuild their squad?
i am grateful that the PSG owners have learned from their failure last season, they have kept the 3 most expensive strikers in the world but have not been able to win the UCL trophy, rebuilding the team is the best decision that must be made.  PSG with their stable financial strength should be able to focus more on young players who are not strong enough to give the team victory.

anyway, i see that the steps of the PSG management are very extreme, it is reported that there are many players who feel threatened by the club, even Donnarumma is rumored to be leaving PSG.

This is a time when they should realize that Money is not going to be very helpful for them. They will need to make a balanced squad if they want to improve and perform better. They just cannot reinforce one certain area of the field. They will have to bring in going to players in all the positions.

And why would the players stay in PSG? They are not winning anything. The players who are actually good performers are obviously going to try to win trophies. PSG is currently not being able to do that. So of course they are going to go to other clubs which will be able to bring in championship trophies.

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July 14, 2023, 02:11:11 PM
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the conflict between Mbappe and PSG has become a drama that is increasingly unclear, which is getting worse. every day there is a lot of news talking about this conflict but I just think if PSG really want Mbappe to strengthen their team, why don't they immediately make it clear about a contract extension but instead PSG opened their mouth not to give a decision to Mbappe.
obviously this is something hanging in the air and this is a conflict that will never end unless Mbappe leaves for free.

I think it's not only PSG's fault for providing such facilities but Mbappe as a trusted player should have wise thoughts.
Paris Saint Germain should have considered that instead of expecting the players they privilege to think wisely like that. with a contract extension offer from Paris Saint Germain which was later rejected by Mbappe, it proves that they still want this player to be in the squad, but Mbappe himself already wants to leave Paris Saint Germain and spend his contract period first.
Maybe now the news that is spread is different from what really happened, it could be better or even murkier. But regardless, this is an experience that will be a lesson for Paris Saint Germain going forward. Do not let the same thing happen again when they bring in new players with contracts that they should not do.

Oh yes, Real Madrid are the most intense club in trying to sign this player, and I don't know if they will give up or continue, so it is PSG's decision whether they want the money or not. Because for me it's better to do something that will bring money than nothing.

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July 14, 2023, 02:19:26 PM
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I mentioned here the extra power PSG management gave him to keep Mbappe at the club when he announced his move from PSG the previous season. Mbappe's power was such that if he didn't like a player, he could drop that player from the team and if he didn't get on well with the manager, he could also change the manager. But despite getting so much power, Mbappe is not staying at PSG. PSG management should understand at this point. If Mbappe doesn't want to stay at PSG there's no point in forcing him to the club he wants to leave let him go and get another decent player with his salary and see your team move forward nicely.
I've said that PSG only have two options for Mbappe. First PSG will try to make him stay with rational reasons and secondly sell him before his contract expires. PSG cannot let Mbappe go to another team on a free transfer, this is clearly very detrimental to them from a business perspective. While PSG must sell him to a team that is really able to offer a reasonable value because Mbappe is a top striker who is currently on the top list.

PSG cannot always force Kylian Mbappe to stay, but of course several other approaches can be made to persuade him to stay for the next few seasons. At least PSG still have plenty of time to make some efforts with Mbappe, but I'm sure Kylian Mbappe will eventually move on to another team.

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July 14, 2023, 03:06:31 PM
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I think Paris Saint Germaine shouldn't be blamed for the continuous media trafficking issue concerning their player Kylian Mbappe and his supposed transfer to Real Madrid.
Mbappe should've become a Real Madrid player last summer transfer window but changed his decision abd extended his contract with PSG because the club offered a better financial deal than the one he got from Real Madrid. Now that he's convinced that it is at Real Madrid that he can win the UEFA Champions League and probably the Balon D'or he wants to secretly agree to go back to the club without PSG's knowledge. PSG has already included him in the list of players they're gonna sell off this summer and that'll be to the highest bidder so Real Madrid should save us from the continuous news of Mbappe by signing him with PSG's terms
Currently situation is confusing with media creating good mess-up with this all which creating problems for the both parties PSG and Kylian Mbappé even now he is set for the next journey which could be Real Madrid or any other club which is good chance for him but right now first problem is who is going to afford this luxurious player in UEFA finances are not good for the many clubs and Real Madrid it already announces they can't buy him right now which is surely problem for the player, but few media reports are saying all is settled which is also confusing but if we have no Real Madrid deals in this season then most chances we will have no Kylian Mbappé in Real Madrid for the next few seasons because right now just few Premier League clubs are interested which will surely do long deal instead of having 2 or 3 years which cannot be good for the both parties which are currently involved in this all business.
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July 14, 2023, 03:32:54 PM
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After all, PSG is the richest team in Ligue 1 until now. So yes of course, having that much money maybe PSG should not to worry about losing of the star players they have. After all, as time goes by, of course PSG will get other great players too. But yes, because PSG has a lot of money and so PSG can give crazy contracts with privileges that are given to one of their players who are also well paid.
There is nothing to worry about about moving players because in modern football this is commonplace, money has become something that is important to influence many things in football. PSG owners have a lot of money and it is not difficult for them to bring in new players, what PSG needs to evaluate is the coach and for now they have got a coach who has the ability to make the club grow in the next season.

But apart from that case, it seems that in this transfer market, PSG has managed to bring in some great players as well. Interestingly, the average age of players recruited by PSG at this moment is at least under the age of 30, and of course this is the right choice for the long term performance.
PSG have brought in several new players in the current transfer market and the moves for Kylian Mbappe and Neymar are no longer a big problem for now and it seems that this issue is no longer discussed loudly, because they have recruited a new coach and I am sure that next season they will both remain stay at PSG. There is hope when a new coach comes to PSG and maybe this is a consideration for the two players to at least last until next season.

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July 14, 2023, 03:54:33 PM
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I mentioned here the extra power PSG management gave him to keep Mbappe at the club when he announced his move from PSG the previous season. Mbappe's power was such that if he didn't like a player, he could drop that player from the team and if he didn't get on well with the manager, he could also change the manager. But despite getting so much power, Mbappe is not staying at PSG. PSG management should understand at this point. If Mbappe doesn't want to stay at PSG there's no point in forcing him to the club he wants to leave let him go and get another decent player with his salary and see your team move forward nicely.
I've said that PSG only have two options for Mbappe. First PSG will try to make him stay with rational reasons and secondly sell him before his contract expires. PSG cannot let Mbappe go to another team on a free transfer, this is clearly very detrimental to them from a business perspective. While PSG must sell him to a team that is really able to offer a reasonable value because Mbappe is a top striker who is currently on the top list.

PSG cannot always force Kylian Mbappe to stay, but of course several other approaches can be made to persuade him to stay for the next few seasons. At least PSG still have plenty of time to make some efforts with Mbappe, but I'm sure Kylian Mbappe will eventually move on to another team.
PSG should sell Mbappe to recover the money spent earlier and buy themselves a replacement striker. I think even giving him more power would make matters worse, PSG gave him a lot of privileges and power. To lead to too much internal turmoil. PSG is a rich club but not a united collective. Although there are many good players, they do not bring good results. Mbappe will leave PSG, and Messi has also left PSG.
The burden may be on the shoulders of coach Luis Enrique. He was embarking on the rebuilding of the decaying Paris Saint-Germain.

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July 14, 2023, 04:12:09 PM
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PSG should sell Mbappe to recover the money spent earlier and buy themselves a replacement striker. I think even giving him more power would make matters worse, PSG gave him a lot of privileges and power. To lead to too much internal turmoil. PSG is a rich club but not a united collective. Although there are many good players, they do not bring good results. Mbappe will leave PSG, and Messi has also left PSG.
The burden may be on the shoulders of coach Luis Enrique. He was embarking on the rebuilding of the decaying Paris Saint-Germain.
It's true that Luis Enrique will carry a heavy burden for next season on his shoulders, but it looks like he will choose a firm stance against the current turmoil in the PSG squad. Of course, armed with his experience as a player and coach he can overcome trivial matters related to the issue of Mbappe going to Real Madrid.

I think Enrique and the PSG management will find the right solution for this, considering that the transfer market is still long it will make it easier for PSG to find a replacement for Mbappe. If Enrique doesn't look at other strikers in the transfer market he can just take advantage of back-up players they also have almost the same quality as the main squad. By giving them confidence to prove their quality they will automatically contribute to the team. Neymar will be a worthy role model for other players in the team than Mbappe.
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July 14, 2023, 04:28:22 PM
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After all, PSG is the richest team in Ligue 1 until now. So yes of course, having that much money maybe PSG should not to worry about losing of the star players they have. After all, as time goes by, of course PSG will get other great players too. But yes, because PSG has a lot of money and so PSG can give crazy contracts with privileges that are given to one of their players who are also well paid. But apart from that case, it seems that in this transfer market, PSG has managed to bring in some great players as well. Interestingly, the average age of players recruited by PSG at this moment is at least under the age of 30, and of course this is the right choice for the long term performance.

As I posted before, it seems that currently PSG is building a new philosophy with its team squad. From my point of view, they have learned a lot that simply signing star players does not guarantee that the club will win the trophy they want, namely, the Champions League trophy. as we know PSG has very abundant finances, they can even bring in any player they want. some of its players, have special privileges. yep, like Mbappe. however, despite having Mbappe, PSG never won the most prestigious league event. that is also why, now they have brought in the right and ideal coach. in fact, some of the names they brought in were not as famous as the ones they had brought before. it seems, Enrique will try to rebuild the PSG squad with his distinctive style and philosophy.

In this summer's transfer window, PSG did not try to bring in big names. for example, Osimhen. instead, PSG is trying to find other player options whose talents and talents can be further developed. for example, PSG's interest in Vlahovic. even though this player, previously did not show a good record with Juventus. well, I do not want to assume too far. because after all, this summer transfer window is not yet close to closing day. So, we'll just see what Enrique and the PSG management will do. not to mention, the Mbappe transfer saga. So, let's see how it goes.

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PSG should sell Mbappe to recover the money spent earlier and buy themselves a replacement striker. I think even giving him more power would make matters worse, PSG gave him a lot of privileges and power. To lead to too much internal turmoil. PSG is a rich club but not a united collective. Although there are many good players, they do not bring good results. Mbappe will leave PSG, and Messi has also left PSG.
The burden may be on the shoulders of coach Luis Enrique. He was embarking on the rebuilding of the decaying Paris Saint-Germain.
We all know that PSG may never be happy with Mbappe's current situation which basically leaves only 1 year on his contract. Kylian Mbappe must be sold before his contract expires, but if PSG don't sell him then the consequence is that they will lose Mbappe without getting any money.

Luis Enrique will obviously carry a lot of weight in his 2-year contract as PSG coach starting next season. Enrique will still demand PSG sign some players instead of continuing to try to keep hold of Mbappe, but he will certainly be happy with the process. There has been some news about players being linked with PSG, but none of that seems too clear apart from the few players they have already signed.

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July 14, 2023, 04:33:31 PM
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Especially due to his big success in the Champions League with Barcelona in the past, I hope he can do the same with PSG as well. He will have a quite strong squad in his hands and have a world star player like Mbappe as well. Mbappe could still leave the team this summer though but let's say he didn't leave for now.

Back then Enrique worked with Messi and now he is lucky to work with another world star. Mbappe can continue to do this best with a high level contribution to bring success to the team. Enrique should just give him some freedom in his game. Because Mbappe is himself when he becomes more creative than being too disciplined to play the same game with the others.

@Velvet78 PSG won’t win the champions league unless they have a united squad and due to Mbappe’s recent statements the squad is already divided hence they need to sell him and unite the player’s. Furthermore Enrique will need at least two - three transfer windows to build a squad that can implement his plans and thus I hope that PSG owner’s give him time otherwise the head coach position for PSG will open up very soon.

IMO, I see that at the moment PSG's philosophy has changed. now, they are trying to build a team like City did. but in truth, I can not justify with what I say. because, so far I have not been able to figure out what exactly they will do. now under Enrique, PSG can be much better than the previous coaches even though they are not too filled with star-studded players. Messi has left, Neymar's status is still in doubt, Mbappe's transfer saga.
well, it's not an easy job for Enruque to fix PSG in an instant. but, at least the move to choose Enrique is the right choice. yep, if we refer to his track record as a seasoned coach.

To be honest, for now I can't measure PSG's strength for next season. ideally, we'll see after this summer's transfer window closes. also, which players PSG has signed. after that, what system does Enrique employ. thus, at least we have an overview of PSG's strength map and how they will carry out their matches in the Champions League. don't get me wrong, it's not impossible if Enrique can bring PSG as the club wants. After all, in football anything can happen. for now, there is no other way than we follow every development.

I Agree with you because now in PSG they know spending money to buy and hire expensive players can't help them even if they buy Messi and have Mbappe at the same time. I think PSG is trying to hire younger players this time and instead of hiring big names to spend lots of money, they are trying to hire the list of players Enrique gave them to have better performance in the next season.
Maybe they can have more chances in the champions league too.

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July 14, 2023, 04:44:34 PM
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Paris Saint Germain should have considered that instead of expecting the players they privilege to think wisely like that. with a contract extension offer from Paris Saint Germain which was later rejected by Mbappe, it proves that they still want this player to be in the squad, but Mbappe himself already wants to leave Paris Saint Germain and spend his contract period first.
Maybe now the news that is spread is different from what really happened, it could be better or even murkier. But regardless, this is an experience that will be a lesson for Paris Saint Germain going forward. Do not let the same thing happen again when they bring in new players with contracts that they should not do.

Oh yes, Real Madrid are the most intense club in trying to sign this player, and I don't know if they will give up or continue, so it is PSG's decision whether they want the money or not. Because for me it's better to do something that will bring money than nothing.
The club doesn't only want him to remain but they want him to stay and also extend his contract. This is the only way they can make money from him in the future. If they let him stay without extending his contract, he would work away as a free agent. But the striker wants to stay and work away freely next season because it will give him the privilege of controlling his transfer negotiation and choosing his preferred club.

PSG is in a dilemma because if they don't handle the situation well they will end up keeping a player that will not give his best this season. I am saying this because Mbappe cannot be pushed out of the club if he insists that he wants to complete his contract. The club will be forced to keep him till the end of the season and watch him leave for free. With his disagreement, Mbappe might be kept on the bench because the management is not happy with him, and even if he comes into the pitch, he will not give his best. The best solution will be a compromise between PSG and Mbappe. The club should consider reducing his price to attract more clubs or Mbappe should consider signing at least an additional one-year contract and also consider reducing his wage bill to also attract more clubs.

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But it is true what you say, this problem occurred because of Paris Saint Germain's mistake at the beginning, which made the player like the owner of the club and in the end it caused problems for them themselves.
The player should be put in the player's place and should not be given any facilities that the management speaks against. PSG thought they might never be able to sign a player like Mbappe, so they agreed to Mbappe's terms and made huge concessions to keep him in the team. Mbappe was given the power to change a manager if he wanted to, the next step PSG are now feeling in their bones. PSG should have thought earlier that there is no shortage of players when it comes to money. And no player can be kept against the grain no matter how many opportunities you give him. After Mbappe was given so many privileges, Mbappe is going to change club after one season, so what is the benefit of PSG by keeping him with so many privileges or so many salary allowances.
It's wrong that players aren't given any perks but perhaps what you mean is that players shouldn't be given more power within a club just like Mbappe has with the powers he has in his contract.
Another condition, it was not a decision Mbappe made beforehand but PSG themselves decided that in order for him to stay then he was given something interesting besides money which is power and don't blame if Mbappe is like this now because PSG themselves made Mbappe become like that.

PSG want something definite now and they don't want to make anything ambitious especially for Mbappe's contract so if this season there is no new contract then selling at a high price is a good decision so that they don't lose too much.
the conflict between Mbappe and PSG has become a drama that is increasingly unclear, which is getting worse. every day there is a lot of news talking about this conflict but I just think if PSG really want Mbappe to strengthen their team, why don't they immediately make it clear about a contract extension but instead PSG opened their mouth not to give a decision to Mbappe.
obviously this is something hanging in the air and this is a conflict that will never end unless Mbappe leaves for free.

I think it's not only PSG's fault for providing such facilities but Mbappe as a trusted player should have wise thoughts.
In my opinion it's not a drama but just a rumour. So far there is no concrete news or action from Mbappe or PSG. We are talking about a lot of money and nobody wants to pay a fine or lose a player for nothing. And what is written on the internet, it depends on the sanity of the author. I think there will be no drama with Mbappe. If he can't leave this season, he will leave next season.
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July 14, 2023, 05:07:36 PM
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We all know that PSG may never be happy with Mbappe's current situation which basically leaves only 1 year on his contract. Kylian Mbappe must be sold before his contract expires, but if PSG don't sell him then the consequence is that they will lose Mbappe without getting any money.

Luis Enrique will obviously carry a lot of weight in his 2-year contract as PSG coach starting next season. Enrique will still demand PSG sign some players instead of continuing to try to keep hold of Mbappe, but he will certainly be happy with the process. There has been some news about players being linked with PSG, but none of that seems too clear apart from the few players they have already signed.
It would be very interesting to see Mbappe released but not to Real Madrid, this would be a surprise for football connoisseurs, nothing is impossible in football. Regarding Luis Enrique wanting to recruit players in the transfer market, I think that is reasonable because every coach must have his own views on building an ideal squad in their respective versions, and Mbappe seems to be no longer a priority for next season.

Hopefully he can last as long as his contract with PSG and can give the Champions League thanks to his expertise in coaching. Barcelona and the Spanish national team are proof of his cold hands and next season will be a proving ground for Enrique in Ligue 1 and the Champions League. Until now, PSG has been very active in the Asensio transfer window, Manuel Ugarte Milan Skriniar, a player they have officially brought to the club and it looks like there will be more. Seeing the age of the three players, they are relatively young and have great potential for PSG's long-term projects.

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July 14, 2023, 06:34:14 PM
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After all, PSG is the richest team in Ligue 1 until now. So yes of course, having that much money maybe PSG should not to worry about losing of the star players they have. After all, as time goes by, of course PSG will get other great players too. But yes, because PSG has a lot of money and so PSG can give crazy contracts with privileges that are given to one of their players who are also well paid. But apart from that case, it seems that in this transfer market, PSG has managed to bring in some great players as well. Interestingly, the average age of players recruited by PSG at this moment is at least under the age of 30, and of course this is the right choice for the long term performance.
PSG's strategy appears to be undergoing a sea change at the moment. Yes, they have the financial resources to entice any football player with massive salaries and enticing benefits. But from what I've seen, they're beginning to understand that even a roster packed with superstars is no guarantee of lifting the Champions League trophy. So, they've taken a novel approach to hiring. They are currently acquiring younger players under the age of 30 who are less well-known but show promise, such as Vlahovic, who did not have a great record with Juventus but shows promise. I think Enrique is leading PSG to make some necessary philosophical changes. How this affects their play, if at all, remains to be seen

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July 14, 2023, 06:36:00 PM
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It would be very interesting to see Mbappe released but not to Real Madrid, this would be a surprise for football connoisseurs, nothing is impossible in football.
Apart from being surprising, then of course this will be a very disappointing thing for Real Madrid fans. But PSG will benefit a lot from this scenario.

Regarding Luis Enrique wanting to recruit players in the transfer market, I think that is reasonable because every coach must have his own views on building an ideal squad in their respective versions, and Mbappe seems to be no longer a priority for next season.

Hopefully he can last as long as his contract with PSG and can give the Champions League thanks to his expertise in coaching. Barcelona and the Spanish national team are proof of his cold hands and next season will be a proving ground for Enrique in Ligue 1 and the Champions League. Until now, PSG has been very active in the Asensio transfer window, Manuel Ugarte Milan Skriniar, a player they have officially brought to the club and it looks like there will be more. Seeing the age of the three players, they are relatively young and have great potential for PSG's long-term projects.
Luis Enrique will try his best for PSG next season. PSG is expected to get stronger with him, but he needs a lot of adjustments to form a good mentality for PSG, especially when it comes to the Champions League. Of course it won't be easy to get PSG to reach the final and win the title, but if Enrique has the opportunity to work with top players then there is a possibility to win it.

So far Enrique has had a few new players in his squad, but he must have his own plans in compiling his main squad list next season. There are a few pre-season match, so he will try there.

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July 14, 2023, 06:53:31 PM
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That "money" part is the important part. Sure maybe there are some issues at PSG right now, but they are still collecting players like candy, look at how many good players they already got this season, which means that all the players that play there currently could leave, and PSG would still be the richest club, which means that they will be capable of getting much better players eventually as well.

It looks like we are not going to end up with a good result like that, but we can and I am sure that they are going to do much better. Hopefully we can see PSG do better, because so far they have spent a lot of money that didn't get what they want, and this year could be very difficult as well but they could get it eventually.

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July 14, 2023, 06:59:01 PM
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There has been a big downgrade in Monaco's performance in the league for the last two years. They finished the 2021/22 season in 3rd place but they finished as 6th last season. Technically they collected only 4 less points than the 2021/22 season. But this wasn't good enough to compete for a Champions League spot. They even couldn't qualify for any European cup this time.

After Philippe Clement era came to an end as of this result they have brought Adolf Hütter to the team. I won't make the obvious joke about his name.  Grin  He worked with some German teams like Gladbach and Frankfurt most recently. He has zero experience with a French team in his career.

However hopefully this won't affect his adaptation process in a bad way. Maybe Monaco don't have a squad like they had in the 2016/17 season in which they won the Ligue 1 title with Leonardo Jardim. But they can still do better things like getting in the fight for 2nd or 3rd place again.
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July 14, 2023, 07:55:52 PM
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In my opinion it's not a drama but just a rumour. So far there is no concrete news or action from Mbappe or PSG. We are talking about a lot of money and nobody wants to pay a fine or lose a player for nothing. And what is written on the internet, it depends on the sanity of the author. I think there will be no drama with Mbappe. If he can't leave this season, he will leave next season.
It's not about a drama, but more about the size of the price so that until now there is no definite clarity about the transfer for Mbappe. Because as you said, if Mbappe cannot leave PSG at this time, then he will do so in the following season or when his contract expires with PSG. This is about money very seriously not about the drama of money, especially what is being talked about is a good player like Mbappe.

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July 14, 2023, 07:59:11 PM
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Right now, Marseille has officially signed a player in defensive position (Left-Back) Renan Lodi for a transfer fee €13.00m, also actually he can play in the left midfield position, but a man from Brazil has no experience playing in Ligue 1 French. I hope that during his first season at Marseille, he will be in good performance because currently he is also not too old anyway. There is still a possibility for him to shine, because previously in another league he also had stats that weren't too bad.

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