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July 21, 2023, 03:40:33 PM
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Spending alot in the transfer window, achieving lesser expectations in league games, a very important part to function for the new boss, Luis Enrique. Everything will work better in time, we just need the driving force to be able know where the club is heading next season. The parisians becomes too reluctant and comfortable winning the Ligue One every season, as if not enough competitions from other clubs in the same league. Their ultimate target is to lift the UEFA Champions League next season, but it looks like it will definitely take a long range of time before their dreams would be achieved.

To be honest, I don't want to go too far to speculate how PSG will be next season. however, if Mbappe, Neymar and one of the players who are the goal getters. PSG can perform better next season. plus, they need to have an even player depth across all fronts. in particular, for his midfield players. under the tutelage of Enrique, the PSG squad can perform much better. he is believed to be able to rebuild the strength of the Paris Saint-Germain squad much better, with the reputation and track record he has.

If in the end, Mbappe and Neymar do not leave, they only need a Striker number 9 who is hungry to score goals. but the problem is, there are not many options for a forward striker. maybe that's why Vhladovic is their target, although so far there has been no concrete official proposal. maybe also, PSG wants to confirm Mbappe's status first. only after that, they will try to negotiate with Juventus. IMO, now PSG has many options as well as its reserve players. Enrque's job, only need to release players who are not part of the project. ideally, PSG will still dominate Ligue 1.

For the Champions League, maybe they can do better. at least, qualify from the round of 16 big. as a whole PSG players, quite ideal with the system implemented by the coach. Enrique tends to adopt a 4-3-3 pattern. by the way, let's just wait, after all, the transfer window still has time.

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July 21, 2023, 03:51:16 PM
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I don't know if that's right or not but according to some news there is madness in PSG and they want to keep Mbappe in the team in any situation we are talking about 1000m for Mbappe which is a lot, I think if the news is correct they really pay this huge amount of money other players are right to be unhappy because of this unbalanced situation in PSG.

https://www.defensacentral.com/real_madrid/1689842500-la-reaccion-de-mbappe-al-contrato-de-1000-millones-que-le-da-el-psg-quiero-m

They're talking about 1 billion euros for a 10 year contract. If this contract is real, Mbappe will be the most expensive athlete ever. To be honest, I don't think it's a good thing if this offer is real, it creates a great unrest in the team. Mbappe is a good football player, but we know that he is not on good terms with the other players in the team, and when he earns 100 million euros a year, they can break down even more. Even now he has a pretty high salary and I don't know how logical it would be to accept a 10 year contract Smiley
But I would like to add one thing here if PSG let go of Kylian Mbappe then the team will be in great danger. Because Kylian Mbappe is an incredibly fast forward. I think he is an ideal striker for PSG team. If Mbappe leaves the team, PSG's attack will be very weak at the moment.
A team never depends on one player. If Mbappe leaves PSG, why will the club be in danger? Our thinking about Mbappe is that without Mbappe, PSG is dead. Always remember one thing Mbappe is only one player and PSG is a big club PSG pay several players like Mbappe. PSG will not be in any danger if Mbappe changes clubs as they have enough money to use that money to sign a quality striker. And don't forget Neymar is still in PSG and several other stars are still in PSG along with Neymar so PSG's time is not over yet.

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July 21, 2023, 04:22:08 PM
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I don't know if that's right or not but according to some news there is madness in PSG and they want to keep Mbappe in the team in any situation we are talking about 1000m for Mbappe which is a lot, I think if the news is correct they really pay this huge amount of money other players are right to be unhappy because of this unbalanced situation in PSG.

https://www.defensacentral.com/real_madrid/1689842500-la-reaccion-de-mbappe-al-contrato-de-1000-millones-que-le-da-el-psg-quiero-m

They're talking about 1 billion euros for a 10 year contract. If this contract is real, Mbappe will be the most expensive athlete ever. To be honest, I don't think it's a good thing if this offer is real, it creates a great unrest in the team. Mbappe is a good football player, but we know that he is not on good terms with the other players in the team, and when he earns 100 million euros a year, they can break down even more. Even now he has a pretty high salary and I don't know how logical it would be to accept a 10 year contract Smiley
We know how much PSG money,1000m is not a big problem for PSG actually, with his ability it seems quite worthy. But like you said, Mbappe is not on good terms with the other players in the team, and the 1000m bid will trigger another drama in the locker room. But let's see is this news true, if yes, so then Mbappe will be smiling a lot at there for 10 years.

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July 21, 2023, 04:26:03 PM
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There isn't a very long time to go for this season to start. PSG still haven't completed a centre-forward transfer. The current alternatives are said to be Vlahovic and Hojlund. Vlahovic looks like the priority. Juventus are waiting to hear from them as well to make a transfer to the same position as well. PSG have time until August 4 if I'm not wrong.

If they don't finish the transfer of Vlahovic until then Juventus don't intend to let him go anymore. Two weeks should be enough time for PSG to determine what they will do and to do it. If I were in their place I would choose Vlahovic over Hojlund. Because Hojlund is still not that impressive with his effort.
They still have Mbappe to play there, he doesn't have to play at the left, or the right, he can be just a pure striker for them. I am not saying that he would be considered striker normally, he could or he could play at left wing, whichever he wants but they do not have to get anyone just yet. If he ended up leaving then I would understand that, but he didn't leave so there is really no reason to get anyone there for the time being.

It would be a lot more important and would work if he left, and with that money they could have gotten someone that would be much better for them, but they didn't needed it at this case. So, they are going to end up with Mbappe playing there for another season and see what they need next season.

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July 21, 2023, 04:37:49 PM
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I don't know if that's right or not but according to some news there is madness in PSG and they want to keep Mbappe in the team in any situation we are talking about 1000m for Mbappe which is a lot, I think if the news is correct they really pay this huge amount of money other players are right to be unhappy because of this unbalanced situation in PSG.



https://www.defensacentral.com/real_madrid/1689842500-la-reaccion-de-mbappe-al-contrato-de-1000-millones-que-le-da-el-psg-quiero-m
The figure of 1 billion euros is very large for one player and I think this news is most likely absurd. I think PSG could have done all that because they are a rich club and there is no doubt that they would have to spend that much money to keep Mbappe for another 10 years at PSG. But will Mbappe never learn from before? PSG always make crazy offers when Mbappe wants to leave and this process is almost predictable for most people.

I think as a star player, Mbappe has to care about his career first, isn't he jealous when he sees that Haaland and Vini have already won the champions league? Besides that, isn't he bored if he only stays in France and wins the Ligue 1 title every season? I don't understand with this player if this offer is really agreed.

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July 21, 2023, 04:51:14 PM
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I don't know if the rumors about the salary increase offered by PSG to Mbappe are true or not, but one thing I'm pretty sure is that basically PSG won't hesitate to keep Mbappe in any way. But even so, will Mbappe really stay at PSG forever or not. Because after all, Mbappe himself is still young and has earned such a fantastic fee. So, if in the future Mbappe leaves, then PSG will suffer a very big loss, of course. Because Mbappe plays for PSG no longer based on loyalty, but based on money. As such, it may turn out to be a blunder later due to the way it is too crazy and maybe not healthy for their chemistry also on the pitch and in the locker room.

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July 21, 2023, 04:56:34 PM
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But, in this case the Paris Saint Germain team cannot force the player if he wants to leave, especially for a young player like Mbappe he definitely needs something that can bring him to reach a wide area of football and set new records in his football career. And the options available right now is to leave and play for a club that has wider range of competition. Keep in mind it all happens if he wants to leave, and the question is does Mbappe want to leave PSG at this time?
Nothing is certain at Parc des Princes this period, although the club bringing in new faces. PSG has lost most of their most important players this season, and they cannot afford to lose Kylian Mbappe as a free agent this summer. PSG cannot force a player to stay at the club; rather, they may convince him to stay by offering an increase in wage earnings. PSG president Nasser Al-Khelaifi already has long-term plans for Kylian Mbappe, but the Frenchman is yet to make a decision on his career, whether he will stay with the Parisians or move to a new club where he can rewrite a new chapter in his career.

To be honest I don't really like the way the club defended him, there is some controversy in try to defend him where Kylian Mbappe is given access to make some decisions, that is of course unusual because it goes beyond the average footballer's standards. There is various concerns, one of which is the dissatisfaction of other players which could interfere with the neutralization of the club.
I feel that Paris Saint Germain went too far in defend him even though the player is quite important for the club, but it is fear that the privileges given by PSG will make the player act arbitrarily and that no longer reflects the cooperation between the player and the club.

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July 21, 2023, 05:19:22 PM
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But, in this case the Paris Saint Germain team cannot force the player if he wants to leave, especially for a young player like Mbappe he definitely needs something that can bring him to reach a wide area of football and set new records in his football career. And the options available right now is to leave and play for a club that has wider range of competition. Keep in mind it all happens if he wants to leave, and the question is does Mbappe want to leave PSG at this time?
Nothing is certain at Parc des Princes this period, although the club bringing in new faces. PSG has lost most of their most important players this season, and they cannot afford to lose Kylian Mbappe as a free agent this summer. PSG cannot force a player to stay at the club; rather, they may convince him to stay by offering an increase in wage earnings. PSG president Nasser Al-Khelaifi already has long-term plans for Kylian Mbappe, but the Frenchman is yet to make a decision on his career, whether he will stay with the Parisians or move to a new club where he can rewrite a new chapter in his career.

To be honest I don't really like the way the club defended him, there is some controversy in try to defend him where Kylian Mbappe is given access to make some decisions, that is of course unusual because it goes beyond the average footballer's standards. There is various concerns, one of which is the dissatisfaction of other players which could interfere with the neutralization of the club.
I feel that Paris Saint Germain went too far in defend him even though the player is quite important for the club, but it is fear that the privileges given by PSG will make the player act arbitrarily and that no longer reflects the cooperation between the player and the club.

I think that PSG is a good example of what could also happen to the SPL. The fans of the SPL think that they can soon watch world class soccer because Benzema and Ronaldo are there. But Benzema and Ronaldo are not there to play world class soccer, they are there to make money and enjoy that they are better playing at 50% while the rest is worse playing at 100%. PSG bought these huge names when they already achieved most of what a player can achieve. It was this final bit that was missing from the whole PSG team to win the Champions League, but this final bit means the world in Europe whereas in the SPL you can still win a title. Now PSG is quite stuck with their strategy because what are they going to do now when players wearing the PSG jersey were already called Messi, Ramos, Ibrahimovic, Neymar, Mbappe, what's next?

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July 21, 2023, 05:34:17 PM
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I don't know if the rumors about the salary increase offered by PSG to Mbappe are true or not, but one thing I'm pretty sure is that basically PSG won't hesitate to keep Mbappe in any way. But even so, will Mbappe really stay at PSG forever or not. Because after all, Mbappe himself is still young and has earned such a fantastic fee. So, if in the future Mbappe leaves, then PSG will suffer a very big loss, of course. Because Mbappe plays for PSG no longer based on loyalty, but based on money. As such, it may turn out to be a blunder later due to the way it is too crazy and maybe not healthy for their chemistry also on the pitch and in the locker room.
I once read in the news that the President of PSG insinuated Mbappe during the opening of training, that no players and anyone here can feel bigger than the club including me. A true and wise statement from a club president to stem the news about the transfer of star players in his squad, PSG must do this to keep the player's focus from being sidetracked.

Maybe if Luis Enrique could take a full policy like Ferguson when he was still actively coaching Man United, Mbappe would be released sooner than everyone thought to Madrid. We know that one of the factors that contributed to David Beckham's move to Madrid during his heyday was that Ferguson thought that Beckam felt bigger than a coach, and that Beckham was no longer just a football player but a football celebrity.

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July 21, 2023, 05:57:43 PM
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I don't know if that's right or not but according to some news there is madness in PSG and they want to keep Mbappe in the team in any situation we are talking about 1000m for Mbappe which is a lot, I think if the news is correct they really pay this huge amount of money other players are right to be unhappy because of this unbalanced situation in PSG.

https://www.defensacentral.com/real_madrid/1689842500-la-reaccion-de-mbappe-al-contrato-de-1000-millones-que-le-da-el-psg-quiero-m

They're talking about 1 billion euros for a 10 year contract. If this contract is real, Mbappe will be the most expensive athlete ever. To be honest, I don't think it's a good thing if this offer is real, it creates a great unrest in the team. Mbappe is a good football player, but we know that he is not on good terms with the other players in the team, and when he earns 100 million euros a year, they can break down even more. Even now he has a pretty high salary and I don't know how logical it would be to accept a 10 year contract Smiley
We know how much PSG money,1000m is not a big problem for PSG actually, with his ability it seems quite worthy. But like you said, Mbappe is not on good terms with the other players in the team, and the 1000m bid will trigger another drama in the locker room. But let's see is this news true, if yes, so then Mbappe will be smiling a lot at there for 10 years.
There is too much uncertain news about Kylian Mbappe and most of them are so exaggerated that they don't make any sense.
But if we talk about the price of 1000m for 10 years maybe it makes sense for Mbappe but for other players this is unfair as if it's too special even though Paris SG is a club that competes together assembling strength to be able to compete strongly in every game.
So it's unfair for that to happen and I think it's unreasonable management to make such an offer and I believe it will be very bad long term for Paris SG because for sure other players will be jealous and their performance will be unstable

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July 21, 2023, 06:36:06 PM
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They're talking about 1 billion euros for a 10 year contract. If this contract is real, Mbappe will be the most expensive athlete ever. To be honest, I don't think it's a good thing if this offer is real, it creates a great unrest in the team. Mbappe is a good football player, but we know that he is not on good terms with the other players in the team, and when he earns 100 million euros a year, they can break down even more. Even now he has a pretty high salary and I don't know how logical it would be to accept a 10 year contract Smiley

I think PSG were too afraid of losing him that they offered so much money to keep Kylian Mbappe staying. Basically this could ruin things as the value is insane but PSG seem fine with that approach financially. The only thing that is not on PSG's side regarding Mbappe's situation is that the player is still too selfish and doesn't really care about the team so his relationship with some players is not good.

Kylian Mbappe is a quality player, but he's not good enough to be given a lot of freedom. He tends to focus on himself instead of the team, so it looks like it's going to hurt a team that pays him a super high salary. PSG should be able to sell him and look for an equally good striker, but as I said it's very possible PSG don't want to lose him.
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July 21, 2023, 07:37:47 PM
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No matter how high salary a Saudi team offer to Mbappe I won't be expecting him to join them. It's that simple for me. Because he is still 24 years old now and there is no reason for him to leave Europe also. If he wasn't the biggest earner among all the players in Europe by far then maybe there would have been a small probability for him to leave.

But there is no such situation now. After leaving PSG he will continue to make this kind of money at the team he will go to also. While he has no problem with his salary his only focus should be to win more titles from now on. He should be focusing on becoming a legend by having bigger achievements in the rest of his career with the right team for himself.

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July 21, 2023, 08:08:11 PM
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But I would like to add one thing here if PSG let go of Kylian Mbappe then the team will be in great danger. Because Kylian Mbappe is an incredibly fast forward. I think he is an ideal striker for PSG team. If Mbappe leaves the team, PSG's attack will be very weak at the moment.
All players will leave at a time when the team does not make contract extensions with players to stay in the squad. And the team will also look for a replacement when they release one of the players they have relied on in the past, this is of course very common for every team because before releasing old players, the team must have targeted new players for the same position before the season started. But for PSG, I think it's still good if they still want to keep Kylian Mbappe in their squad, but after next season ends, I think Kylian Mbappe will probably be in another team.

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July 21, 2023, 08:23:35 PM
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You are completely right because the performance of PSG in the transfer market was never good in the previous seasons, they spend lots of money and they give many legends like Messi by paying them huge amounts of money but in the end, all PSG can get in just winning the French league while they can win the French league even with less money.
Spending alot in the transfer window, achieving lesser expectations in league games, a very important part to function for the new boss, Luis Enrique. Everything will work better in time, we just need the driving force to be able know where the club is heading next season. The parisians becomes too reluctant and comfortable winning the Ligue One every season, as if not enough competitions from other clubs in the same league. Their ultimate target is to lift the UEFA Champions League next season, but it looks like it will definitely take a long range of time before their dreams would be achieved.
While PSG has been spending lavishly on high-profile transfers, the club's results in the Champions League have not always reflected its financial commitment. With new manager Luis Enrique in place, the team needs to rethink its approach. To this aim, it may be wise to stop chasing after pricey superstars and instead focus on obtaining talented but cost-effective individuals. Spending big isn't the only key to a winning team; spending smart is, too. Potential long-term gains from a more moderate, conservative transfer strategy. The Champions League is an enormous obstacle that cant be conquered quickly. There will be good times and bad times along the way. But isn't that the excitement of football?

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July 21, 2023, 08:32:17 PM
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in fact PSG had to face a bad period without their flagship player and indeed had to find ways to improve PSG performance without the presence of Mbappe and Messi. Neymr was physical disturbed because of the injury him had experienced, which influence Neymr performance to look good next season.
are you sure you have any thought on wishing Kane would join PSG? I do not think so. maybe you say a much better team because PSG finance are very good but its not about money but about the career and loyalty of Harry Kane who is comfortable in his current team.

the transfer window is near closing and if there is no PSG interest in replace Messi and Mbappe it will be a rough summer for Enrique.
I still think that they are going to be the best team in all of France when Mbappe leaves. They are a rich club and it would not be a problem for them to make more money neither, they are very rich so it is not really an issue for them and they will do fine.

I hope that they do not really do anything crazy, because that would not be nice for their end game, but if they end up realizing that this Mbappe deal was a wrong one, at least they learned something from that and could end up doing better. I have to say it is very terrible for them to just put the trust of the whole club into a single player, and when this type of thing happens, they are left without that. So, next time they will do a lot better in the future when rebuilding.
Paris Saint Germaine we remain the strongest team in French Ligue 1 even without the presence of Lionel Messi and Kylian Mbappe. Mauro Icardi who was on loan to Galatasaray is back to the team coupled with few new signings including Spanish international and former Real Madrid winger Marcos Asensio.
I think PSG's main concern now is to find out the best football formation and style that'll bring out the best from these players and if the can achieve that then they'll be a big force both domestically and in Europe

PSG is one of the teams with an important staff in Europe, we accept this, but if the triple like Messi Neymar and Mbappe could not win a trophy in Europe even with their great attacking power, frankly, this probability is seen as very low after they are gone. It is very difficult to establish an offensive line of this strength again. They can win League 1 but we are talking about something very difficult for UCL.

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July 21, 2023, 09:36:41 PM
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No matter how high salary a Saudi team offer to Mbappe I won't be expecting him to join them. It's that simple for me. Because he is still 24 years old now and there is no reason for him to leave Europe also. If he wasn't the biggest earner among all the players in Europe by far then maybe there would have been a small probability for him to leave.

But there is no such situation now. After leaving PSG he will continue to make this kind of money at the team he will go to also. While he has no problem with his salary his only focus should be to win more titles from now on. He should be focusing on becoming a legend by having bigger achievements in the rest of his career with the right team for himself.
Mbappe will choose to stay at PSG club rather than choose to playing in Saudi club, also considering he is still very capable to compete in Europe, there's no way he choose another league outside of that. As one of the best world players who can still get many titles, I'm also sure he won't accept it because he's still aiming for a lot of achievements in europa zone at the moment, although there are offers that come to him with high salary.

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July 21, 2023, 09:46:49 PM
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I don't know if that's right or not but according to some news there is madness in PSG and they want to keep Mbappe in the team in any situation we are talking about 1000m for Mbappe which is a lot, I think if the news is correct they really pay this huge amount of money other players are right to be unhappy because of this unbalanced situation in PSG.


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A 10-year contract for a billion? This is absolutely crazy. Don't they realize the mess they're going to make.
Looking at the previous contract with special authorization for Mbappe it already indicates an unreasonable contract and now are they really desperate to offer a contract that makes no sense?
Indeed, in terms of progress and performance Mbappe is one of the very good young players but with a contract like this it will create another split again and again, especially in terms of players but it seems that PSG do not realize that they themselves are destroying their club slowly with contracts like this.

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July 21, 2023, 10:42:55 PM
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I don't know if the rumors about the salary increase offered by PSG to Mbappe are true or not, but one thing I'm pretty sure is that basically PSG won't hesitate to keep Mbappe in any way. But even so, will Mbappe really stay at PSG forever or not. Because after all, Mbappe himself is still young and has earned such a fantastic fee. So, if in the future Mbappe leaves, then PSG will suffer a very big loss, of course. Because Mbappe plays for PSG no longer based on loyalty, but based on money. As such, it may turn out to be a blunder later due to the way it is too crazy and maybe not healthy for their chemistry also on the pitch and in the locker room.
Mbappe got kicked from training with PSG in Japan while he seems number 9 given to another player in Real Madrid. Quite awkward situation since it appears that he will remain in the benches for the upcoming season unless he accept a new deal by PSG or move right now to Real Madrid..

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July 21, 2023, 10:52:29 PM
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I don't know if the rumors about the salary increase offered by PSG to Mbappe are true or not, but one thing I'm pretty sure is that basically PSG won't hesitate to keep Mbappe in any way. But even so, will Mbappe really stay at PSG forever or not. Because after all, Mbappe himself is still young and has earned such a fantastic fee. So, if in the future Mbappe leaves, then PSG will suffer a very big loss, of course. Because Mbappe plays for PSG no longer based on loyalty, but based on money. As such, it may turn out to be a blunder later due to the way it is too crazy and maybe not healthy for their chemistry also on the pitch and in the locker room.
Mbappe got kicked from training with PSG in Japan while he seems number 9 given to another player in Real Madrid. Quite awkward situation since it appears that he will remain in the benches for the upcoming season unless he accept a new deal by PSG or move right now to Real Madrid..
I've never read in any sports media tabloids about Kylian Mbappe getting kicked out from Paris Saint Germaine training in their pre season trip in Japan.
The Frenchman was reported to not be with the rest of the squad members as a result of his refusal to tell the club wether he's gonna extend his contract or leave the French capital this summer.

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July 21, 2023, 10:53:52 PM
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Mbappe got kicked from training with PSG in Japan while he seems number 9 given to another player in Real Madrid. Quite awkward situation since it appears that he will remain in the benches for the upcoming season unless he accept a new deal by PSG or move right now to Real Madrid..
Mbappe has made the PSG management team so angry that he was dropped by the PSG team on the pre-season tour. I think he will not be maintained by PSG next season because PSG wants to sell him so as not to lose him for nothing next season. Immediately this became a hot topic after Fabrizio confirmed that Mbappe would be sold by PSG in this transfer window.

Mbappe really doesn't have big loyalty for psg because he has privilege in psg team but he always make trouble with psg and maybe this is mbappe last trip with psg. We'll see how the other teams react after PSG confirms that they will sell Mbappe in this transfer window. I think the team with the strongest finances will try to make a bid for PSG to sign Mbappe.

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